Detailed guide for having fun in pattaya..

[raza227]

Hi can anyone tell me how to have fun in pattaya.Is using grundr safe in pattaya.Can the people me trusted.I am exploring this.

[vinapu]

Just go and you will have fun just being there. There are two areas with boy bars - Boyztown near Walking street and Jomitien Complex Supertown few kilometers south with east connection by baht bus between them and Sansuk sauna in side street  half way through.

Grindr is safe and you can trust  guys meeting that way to the same degree you would be trusting any strangers i.e. normal precautions and common sense applies.

Spend time reading posts in this section and you will get better ideas about Pattaya scene.  

[jimmie50]

21 minutes ago, vinapu said:

Grindr is safe and you can trust  guys meeting that way to the same degree you would be trusting any strangers i.e. normal precautions and common sense applies.

As @vinapu, Pattaya is no different from any other place in the world when using online apps.  Use normal precautions and common sense when meeting strangers.  

You might check out this website:  https://jomtiencomplex.com    It has information about Jomtien Complex Supertown including a map.  Not sure if there is something similar for Boyztown.  You might also check out a travel blog by forum member @macaroni21 and read his posts about Pattaya.  Here is a link to his website:  https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog 

[hank75]

Curious about the offerings on Grundr

[t0oL1]

47 minutes ago, hank75 said:

Curious about the offerings on Grundr

Well just open the app on your phone, set your search location to Pattaya TH, and see for yourself.

But I wouldn't skip jumping on a motorcycle taxi to go to Sunee area and see Nigh Boys bar

[12is12]

So now it's only boyz and jomitien? Sunee has faded away into the misty past... ?

[forrestreid]

Hi Raza.

Welcome to the board.

You are more likely to get useful help if you tell us a bit about yourself.

For instance, most people will assume that you're an older gay guy planning to use the commercial gay scene. But you could be in your twenties or thirties hoping for free encounters. You may be familiar with the Bangkok commercial scene and want just a few hints as to how Pattaya differs. Or you may be a newbie to Thailand and know nothing.

Anyway, here are a few basics. I will presume that you are an older guy looking to hire. I will talk about the bar areas rather than meeting guys off the apps, which others have mentioned.

There are three gay bar areas in Pattaya: Boyztown, Jomtien Complex, and Sunee Plaza.

Jomtien Complex, a few miles south of Pattaya city centre, is the biggest “gay zone”, but it does not have go-go bars. Boyztown and Sunee Plaza are in Pattaya city centre, and are smaller areas (Sunee Plaza is almost dead at this stage). Boyztown and Sunee Plaza have go-go bars, while Jomtien Complex specialises in host bars.

Boyztown

I won't talk about individual bars. Probably the three most popular ones at the moment are Classic Boys, X-Boys, and Toyboys. If you do a Google Map search for any of them, it will bring you to Boyztown, where they are clustered together. A search for those names in the search bar of this website will bring up reports.

In general, the go-go bars in Boyztown charge 250–300 baht for a drink. You basically watch the guys dancing on a stage in their underwear. If you see a boy you like on the stage (identified by a number), you tell the mamasan (bar manager on the floor), who will bring him over to sit with you. Since many boys are from neighboring countries like Myanmar, Laos, or Cambodia, and may not speak English well, the mamasan often acts as translator to discuss what the boy is willing to do ("top/bottom/both") and the price to hire them for Short Time (S/T- an hour or two) or Long Time (L/T - usually overnight).

However, having the mamasan involved will often raise the expected price, as the mamasan sometimes gets a commission for suggesting a higher price. If the guy speaks any reasonable level of English at all, I would be inclined to keep the mamasan out of it.

Boyztown Costs

If you bring the guy out of the bar, you will have to pay a fee to the bar, called the “off fee" (similar to the “bar fine” in straight establishments, if you are familiar with them). My understanding is that the current off fee in most Boyztown places is around 500 baht.

You will also have to pay the guy separately for his time. Compensation levels can be a contentious issue on this board, but my understanding is the current expected fee for S/T in Boyztown is 1500–2000 baht. Particularly handsome or muscular guys may expect more. Of course, if you are hiring a guy for L/T that would have a higher expectation as well.

Sunee Plaza

Sunee Plaza is a bit similar, although they have a tradition of the guys being open to being able to be “touched up”, even to the point of being made to cum, at your seat in exchange for a tip of a few hundred baht, which isn't really a thing in the other places. As this area is pretty moribund at the moment, I would leave it as your last visit. It does tend to be cheaper for than Boyztown for off fees and the payment expectations of the guys, though. The main bars in Sunee Plaza are Winner Bar (recently reported closed?) and Nice Boys Bar. Google Maps will help you find them, but be aware that at this stage, with the decline of gay establishments in the vicinity, visiting them will be more like making a trek to individual bars than being part of a "gay area."

Jomtien Complex

Jomtien Complex has a different model. The bars there are “host” bars rather than go-go bars – they are focused on bars where you can sit and drink, and fully clothed hosts will sit with you and chat in return for you buying them a drink. It has the biggest selection of bars - you really feel like you are in a “gay zone" in Jomtien Complex. Most of the bars have an outside area, which gives a nice ambience to the streets. You can sit outside and people-watch or sit inside and watch the shows. The shows are not go-go shows, but rather entertainment shows dominated by drag acts, although some shows, such as at M Bar, can get quite raunchy.

As with Boyztown, the guys are available to take off from the bar. I believe the current off fee in the complex is a bit cheaper than Boyztown, around 300 baht. The expectations of the guys for S/T or L/T may be a bit lower as well, perhaps more so 1200 or 1500 rather than 2000 for S/T, for example.

I see that @jimmie50  provided to a link to a map of the bars in Jomtien in an above post,  which is very useful.

Massage

Another aspect you could usefully search for on this board is gay massage places. Many of them are basically fronts for “sexy massage”, which can range from a hand job at the end of the massage to full sex.

 

 

[Keithambrose]

32 minutes ago, forrestreid said:

Hi Raza.

Welcome to the board.

You are more likely to get useful help if you tell us a bit about yourself.

For instance, most people will assume that you're an older gay guy planning to use the commercial gay scene. But you could be in your twenties or thirties hoping for free encounters. You may be familiar with the Bangkok commercial scene and want just a few hints as to how Pattaya differs. Or you may be a newbie to Thailand and know nothing.

Anyway, here are a few basics. I will presume that you are an older guy looking to hire. I will talk about the bar areas rather than meeting guys off the apps, which others have mentioned.

There are three gay bar areas in Pattaya: Boyztown, Jomtien Complex, and Sunee Plaza.

Jomtien Complex, a few miles south of Pattaya city centre, is the biggest “gay zone”, but it does not have go-go bars. Boyztown and Sunee Plaza are in Pattaya city centre, and are smaller areas (Sunee Plaza is almost dead at this stage). Boyztown and Sunee Plaza have go-go bars, while Jomtien Complex specialises in host bars.

Boyztown

I won't talk about individual bars. Probably the three most popular ones at the moment are Classic Boys, X-Boys, and Toyboys. If you do a Google Map search for any of them, it will bring you to Boyztown, where they are clustered together. A search for those names in the search bar of this website will bring up reports.

In general, the go-go bars in Boyztown charge 250–300 baht for a drink. You basically watch the guys dancing on a stage in their underwear. If you see a boy you like on the stage (identified by a number), you tell the mamasan (bar manager on the floor), who will bring him over to sit with you. Since many boys are from neighboring countries like Myanmar, Laos, or Cambodia, and may not speak English well, the mamasan often acts as translator to discuss what the boy is willing to do ("top/bottom/both") and the price to hire them for Short Time (S/T- an hour or two) or Long Time (L/T - usually overnight).

However, having the mamasan involved will often raise the expected price, as the mamasan sometimes gets a commission for suggesting a higher price. If the guy speaks any reasonable level of English at all, I would be inclined to keep the mamasan out of it.

Boyztown Costs

If you bring the guy out of the bar, you will have to pay a fee to the bar, called the “off fee" (similar to the “bar fine” in straight establishments, if you are familiar with them). My understanding is that the current off fee in most Boyztown places is around 500 baht.

You will also have to pay the guy separately for his time. Compensation levels can be a contentious issue on this board, but my understanding is the current expected fee for S/T in Boyztown is 1500–2000 baht. Particularly handsome or muscular guys may expect more. Of course, if you are hiring a guy for L/T that would have a higher expectation as well.

Sunee Plaza

Sunee Plaza is a bit similar, although they have a tradition of the guys being open to being able to be “touched up”, even to the point of being made to cum, at your seat in exchange for a tip of a few hundred baht, which isn't really a thing in the other places. As this area is pretty moribund at the moment, I would leave it as your last visit. It does tend to be cheaper for than Boyztown for off fees and the payment expectations of the guys, though. The main bars in Sunee Plaza are Winner Bar and Nice Boys Bar. Google Maps will help you find them, but be aware that at this stage, with the decline of gay establishments in the vicinity, visiting them will be more like making a trek to individual bars than being part of a "gay area."

Jomtien Complex

Jomtien Complex has a different model. The bars there are “host” bars rather than go-go bars – they are focused on bars where you can sit and drink, and fully clothed hosts will sit with you and chat in return for you buying them a drink. It has the biggest selection of bars - you really feel like you are in a “gay zone" in Jomtien Complex. Most of the bars have an outside area, which gives a nice ambience to the streets. You can sit outside and people-watch or sit inside and watch the shows. The shows are not go-go shows, but rather entertainment shows dominated by drag acts, although some shows, such as at M Bar, can get quite raunchy.

As with Boyztown, the guys are available to take off from the bar. I believe the current off fee in the complex is a bit cheaper than Boyztown, around 300 baht. The expectations of the guys for S/T or L/T may be a bit lower as well, perhaps more so 1200 or 1500 rather than 2000 for S/T, for example.

I see that @jimmie50  provided to a link to a map of the bars in Jomtien in an above post,  which is very useful.

Massage

Another aspect you could usefully search for on this board is gay massage places. Many of them are basically fronts for “sexy massage”, which can range from a hand job at the end of the massage to full sex.

 

 

Other members have said Winner Bar is closed?

[forrestreid]

Thanks for reporting that -  I was unaware. It was in the window to edit my post, so I have added a note that it may be closed. 

[tm_nyc]

43 minutes ago, forrestreid said:

Another aspect you could usefully search for on this board is gay massage places. Many of them are basically fronts for “sexy massage”, which can range from a hand job at the end of the massage to full sex.

Are there any shops where you can get a good 'no extras' massage?  I haven't had much luck finding that.

[Keithambrose]

21 minutes ago, forrestreid said:

Thanks for reporting that -  I was unaware. It was in the window to edit my post, so I have added a note that it may be closed. 

See Winner Boys entry by Old Daddy, comments last week. Yours for Bt50,000, it seems.

[forrestreid]

23 minutes ago, tm_nyc said:

Are there any shops where you can get a good 'no extras' massage?  I haven't had much luck finding that.

In Jomtien, between the Agate and Zing Hotels, there is the Thai Blind Massage Institute, signposted as the "TBMI".

It offers legit massage by blind people who have been trained rigorously in the art of Thai massage.

I have never used it myself (i find proper Thai massage a bit sore) , but it has very good reviews on Trip Adviser.