Had most of the African guys this trip .to Pattaya ..some had big cocks some had medium

Most were great and repeaters to me

, only had one guy who was still polite but cancelled the "service* without charge after 5 minutes calling me rude aggressive & demanding , his problem

I would love to go to Madagascar 🇲🇬🇲🇬

Don't be mislead by the guys who come here; they are money-boys, with the accent on "money." I'm not criticising them for that....I hope they do well.....and you are right; they are certainly good-looking. But I wouldn't suggest your visiting Madagascar or Zanzibar for sex. Beautiful with a unique wild -life? Yes. Exceptional history and culture? Certainly. Read about the nineteen century Queen Ranavola and her interesting tastes and activities.

But in places like this, beware the police; in Zanzibar they are underpaid- as I suspect they are in Madagascar- and my ability to rent a car marked me as a wealthy foreigner waiting to be fleeced. It made me nervous.

Most importantly, I wouldn't recommend offending any local cultural and legal norms, particularly those relating to sex; if you were lucky, it would merely be very expensive. More likely you'd be prosecuted.

@Londoner Isn't it a thing for older British women to look for toyboys in Africa? I'm quite sure I read a few articles and saw a documentary about it. But perhaps not in Madagascar or Zanzibar. I think they go to Bali for the same purpose. Here in KL I've seen older, plus sized white women with Black hunks in some of the more popular shopping areas. More power to them.

Incidentally, what were you doing there? 🤔😏

I know Gambia rather well and saw its sex scene at first hand back in the nineties. The beach was a cruising ground for young men, referred to as "bumsters", and they cruised both sexes. "Bum" in the US sense, of course.

I used to talk with one of my hotel's security guards who told me about his relationship with a married middle-aged Irish woman. He even showed me a lovey-dovey letter he'd received from her. It hadn't lasted.

There was an interesting documentary on the BBC twenty or so years ago where both the women and their guys were interviewed. Predictably, relationships tended to crash once the parties separated at the end of a holiday. The guys were looking for money, of course- Gambia back then was desperately poor with huge numbers of unemployed young men.

One women interviewed had actually married her beau, who'd come to live in the UK (pre- Farage days of course). I remember it well, because the woman told us that the marriage wasn't a real one because "it hadn't been constipated." In fact, from what she said "constipated" was an apposite image.

Well, mauRICE, although my visits to Thailand have been devoted to one activity- though with excursions and expeditions tacked-on- my travelling in the 90s. when I had a secondment from work, was genuinely cultural. It included included Zanzibar, Senegal, Tanzania and Kenya. And North Africa and the Middle -East. I hope you find this re-assuring! It explains why I found Thailand so enticing....it was the only place where I could see a guy I fancied and bring him back to the hotel without anyone batting an eye-lid. Thank you Thailand.

6 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

, only had one guy who was still polite but cancelled the "service* without charge after 5 minutes calling me rude aggressive & demanding , his problem

Really? I am shocked to hear this. Not on brand at all! 🤓

On 9/13/2026 at 5:51 PM, mauRICE said:

@Londoner Isn't it a thing for older British women to look for toyboys in Africa? I'm quite sure I read a few articles and saw a documentary about it. But perhaps not in Madagascar or Zanzibar. I think they go to Bali for the same purpose. Here in KL I've seen older, plus sized white women with Black hunks in some of the more popular shopping areas. More power to them.

Incidentally, what were you doing there? 🤔😏

Your in Kuala Lumpur?

I only ever transited there ..I would love to go outside the airport

I met a few guys back in March in Bangkok from KL , they said they couldn't get Grindr there

37 minutes ago, Olddaddy said:

Your in Kuala Lumpur?

I only ever transited there ..I would love to go outside the airport

I met a few guys back in March in Bangkok from KL , they said they couldn't get Grindr there

For me, KL was like Singapore - just a place to transit on the way to somewhere interesting. I'd only been there once, over 10 years ago.

But once I made the decision to give it a second chance a few years ago, I discovered how truly interesting it is.

I've been back 7 times in the last 2 years.

If you're looking to hook up with a guy, forget it!

The only chance for sex was the Otot-otot sauna, which is now closed after a raid earlier this year.

Other than that there is certainly no street trade; not unless you're into ladyboys. They congregate outside the Grand Millennium Hotel in Bukit Bintang.

If you want a holiday with polite people- many of whom speak beautiful English, great places to visit and incredible food , Malaysia is for you!

I'll probably be going back next month, on my way to Bangkok.

37 minutes ago, a-447 said:

For me, KL was like Singapore - just a place to transit on the way to somewhere interesting. I'd only been there once, over 10 years ago.

But once I made the decision to give it a second chance a few years ago, I discovered how truly interesting it is.

I've been back 7 times in the last 2 years.

If you're looking to hook up with a guy, forget it!

The only chance for sex was the Otot-otot sauna, which is now closed after a raid earlier this year.

Other than that there is certainly no street trade; not unless you're into ladyboys. They congregate outside the Grand Millennium Hotel in Bukit Bintang.

If you want a holiday with polite people- many of whom speak beautiful English, great places to visit and incredible food , Malaysia is for you!

I'll probably be going back next month, on my way to Bangkok.

I thought, from previous posts, that there was plenty of available action in KL?

1 hour ago, Olddaddy said:

Your in Kuala Lumpur?

I only ever transited there ..I would love to go outside the airport

I met a few guys back in March in Bangkok from KL , they said they couldn't get Grindr there

You make it sound as if the airport is on a moat filled with crocodiles.😅 Step outside for a few days and have a look. If you're planning just to do KL, then three nights, four days would be comfortable.

I'm in KL Mondays to Thursdays and I spend Fridays to Sundays in my home state up north. My family home is about an hour's drive from the nearest Thai border. My partner of fifteen years lives on the other side of that border and it takes about two hours to drive from my house to his in good traffic. 😉

I've never used the hook-up apps but I did hear you can no longer access them here and I remember seeing something about it in the papers. But I'm sure the guys have figured out ways to get around the restrictions. I believe most of the MBs, including many from Africa and Indonesia, used to ply their trade on the apps. Most of the Africans are on student visas.

Male massage parlours have mushroomed all over KL and the ads on social media are quite risque. I'm not sure if any hanky panky goes on during the massages but I wouldn't be surprised if it did. As far as I know, therapeutic manhood massages supposedly to help with ED are allowed and, again, it wouldn't surprise me if it goes beyond that. Most of the masseurs are foreign and I've seen some cute ones on social media.

From what I hear from friends who are still on the prowl, there's no abatement of gays hooking up but if you're expecting the kind of organised commercial sex scene you see in Thailand, you'll be very disappointed. There's at least one LGBTQ bar in KL that I know of, the long running Blueboy. Of course there are plenty of very nice, upscale nightspots that is welcoming to all. All you need is one friend who's active on the scene and go from there.

@spoon might have more current information.

There are plenty of guys looking for hookups in KL. Sure there has been some difficulties with locals using apps but they soon know a way around it.

Have stayed in KL for 20 years and had no problems meeting guys. Of course there is much less of a bar scene but massage centres are common place.

Some areas are "home" to "massage" guys from Indonesia who visit to ply their trade.

The raid on Otot scared a lot of people off saunas but some still exist although not very classy. Upkeep is not great which is not surprising given you could be closed down tomorrow.

Many Malaysians use the Blowingwind forum for info and hookups.

Of course it's not Thailand but a good time can be had.

2 hours ago, a-447 said:

Other than that there is certainly no street trade; not unless you're into ladyboys.

Too much competition for you?

6 hours ago, Lotusleaf said:

Have stayed in KL for 20 years and had no problems meeting guys.

that makes you local and locals have much more access to information where fun can be had than tourist on 3 days lay-over.

In my city before advent of apps and social media boys of fun used to congregate on very unassuming side street downtown , not far but definitely not in gay area. One wouldn't find it by chance as there were no single bar, restaurant or store there and that was brilliance of the place - deserted of passerby's even in a broad daylight.

I second Kuala Lumpur is worth visiting and when I was 3 years ago there was Grindr and I was even kind of stalked by guy who seemed to stay in the same hotel . Since I had local guide , I have him a pass, lol.

How we landed from Africa in Malaysia in one thread? That's beauty of this forum shortening distances it seems . Oh, I know. Olddady led us there

12 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

I thought, from previous posts, that there was plenty of available action in KL?

"Plenty" is subjective but action is certainly available. I read what a-447 wrote as it wasn't available to him.

21 minutes ago, mauRICE said:

"Plenty" is subjective but action is certainly available. I read what a-447 wrote as it wasn't available to him.

Well, his comment,

"If you're looking to hook up with a guy, forget it!"

....seemed quite general?

16 minutes ago, Keithambrose said:

Well, his comment,

"If you're looking to hook up with a guy, forget it!"

....seemed quite general?

I guess he's just saving face - I mean he couldn't seriously have been speaking for the thousands of gay men who either live or have travelled here. 😏

You should be leaving for Thailand soon. I'd love to get away for a few days especially with this crummy weather brought about by this terrible, terrible haze, thanks to our forest-burning Indonesian neighbours. I've been feeling a bit peaky this past week - the weekend in Songkhla did provide some respite - but one of my older cats has asthma and I can't leave her. She's 15 and I need to keep my eye on her. I have a lovely catsitter but it's just not the same as when you care for them yourself.

Safe travels!

22 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

I met a few guys back in March in Bangkok from KL , they said they couldn't get Grindr there

It would seem that Grindr is blocked here. I tried to download it and got this:

9 hours ago, mauRICE said:

I guess he's just saving face - I mean he couldn't seriously have been speaking for the thousands of gay men who either live or have travelled here. 😏

You should be leaving for Thailand soon. I'd love to get away for a few days especially with this crummy weather brought about by this terrible, terrible haze, thanks to our forest-burning Indonesian neighbours. I've been feeling a bit peaky this past week - the weekend in Songkhla did provide some respite - but one of my older cats has asthma and I can't leave her. She's 15 and I need to keep my eye on her. I have a lovely catsitter but it's just not the same as when you care for them yourself.

Safe travels!

Thank you, I'm packing a rain jacket!

40 minutes ago, Keithambrose said:

Thank you, I'm packing a rain jacket!

Not for use in the bedroom!

4 minutes ago, Keithambrose said:

Not for use in the bedroom!

And here I am thinking only Olddaddy has a golden obsession...⛈️

10 hours ago, mauRICE said:

I guess he's just saving face - I mean he couldn't seriously have been speaking for the thousands of gay men who either live or have travelled here. 😏

No, not 'saving face'. Just telling people what I have experienced in my multiple visits to Kuala Lumpur. How could I 'seriously' speak 'for the thousands of gay men', none of whom I've ever met?

MauRICE, it seems that somewhere along the way I must have rubbed you up the wrong away - and definitely no pun intended!

A week is so ago, in the thread 'Adventures of a Bangkok Rookie August 2026, you made a very nasty post accusing me of 'bragging' about taking advantage of a drugged up guy in Super A.

That post was total fiction. You were not there at the time and you did not back up your assertions with any evidence.

'I read what a-447 wrote as it wasn't available to him.'

And now with that comment you are suggesting that although sex is available to others, it somehow isn't available to me in KL, simply because of who I am!

Yet you've never met me!

What is it specifically about me that moneyboys won't accept my money?

As I posted on September 8 in my response to your comment regarding Super A, you should be careful not to cast aspersions on posters based on false conclusions.

It's much better for the board if you confine your criticism to the content of a post, rather than play the man by inventing silly, derogatory stories about fellow members you've never met.

Oh dear! It seems that you're taking this way too personally. Please don't be too hard on yourself - you haven't "rubbed me the wrong way" - as I don't take things said to me in this forum (or anywhere else really) personally. You're right; you don't know me and even if we did know each other, I wouldn't take things personally, perhaps even less so. To be honest, I usually gloss over your posts and was only responding to what Keith had highlighted. It's the same with the so-called drug allegation - was it in response to somebody else's post? Nevertheless I will look into it later as I'm about to board my flight home.

I just wanted to say that I can only interpret what is said on this forum based on my own plain reading of things and usually through a narrow lens as I don't like to impute things into posts beyond their ordinary meaning. As I clearly said in my response to Keith, I understood your post to be about your own subjective experience. I mean what else could it be? Others have said they were able to hook up in KL so, again, I understood what you wrote to be your own isolated experience. Moreover, as you have correctly pointed out, you couldn't possibly have spoken on behalf of the thousands of gay men who live in or have visited KL. I'm glad we're in agreement on this.

I have no idea why sex isn't available to you or what is specifically wrong with you that sex workers won't take your money. I made no mention of these things; these are things you've conjured up and voluntarily revealed yourself.

In fact I wasn't thinking of sex workers at all but hooking up in general when I read your emphatic "if you're thinking of hooking up with a guy, forget it" remark especially as you followed it with the Otot-otot sauna reference where I presume you didn't have to pay for sex. With due respect, I don't have to make up stories about you as you seem to be doing such a fantastic job of it yourself.

Last point: it's not your place to tell me what I can or can't post and to decide what is good or isn't good for this forum. I'm sure the people you meet won't appreciate your finger wagging. You might want to reflect on this which in turn might help to answer your own questions above.

31 minutes ago, mauRICE said:

I don't know you and you're nobody to me

is that how it works here ?

50 minutes ago, mauRICE said:

I have no idea why sex isn't available to you or what is specifically wrong with you that sex workers won't take your money. I made no mention of these things; these are things you've conjured up and voluntarily revealed yourself.

You said that sex was available to others but 'not to him'. That is a slur - a not so subtle suggestion that there must be something wrong with me.

"In fact I wasn't thinking of sex workers at all but hooking up in general".

Yeah, right! Especially on a forum discussing sex with Asian guys!

"it's not your place to tell me what I can or can't post and to decide what is good or isn't good for this forum."

You are free to post whatever you want - that is the nature of fora like this. And you are free to be nasty toward fellow posters if you wish. That's your choice. Only the moderator can tell you what content you may and may not post. As he said, 'Discuss the topic, not the policy or personality. Have fun and enjoy!'

The fact is, this board has a well-earned reputation over many years of posters not personally attacking others. I'm merely suggesting we keep it that way.

I'm done. Let's move on.

19 hours ago, vinapu said:

is that how it works here ?

I had hoped not. These sort of personalised insults don't help the board or other members.

20 hours ago, a-447 said:

You said that sex was available to others but 'not to him'. That is a slur - a not so subtle suggestion that there must be something wrong with me.

No, this is your own inference or perhaps you were vocalising your inner voice which was trying to tell you something. I was merely repeating your exaltation to forget any thought of hooking up with a guy in Malaysia and understood it to be your own personal experience. It reminded me of Ahmedinajad's ridiculous "there are no gays in Iran" proclamation. Objectively speaking, there's nothing wrong in not being able to get laid in Malaysia or anywhere else and we would ordinarily just assume that it was a case of bad timing, lousy gaydar, missed connections, cultural disconnect, being in the wrong place...not necessarily because there was anything wrong with the person. I don't know why you made that assumption of yourself and only you would know the answer to it.

Secondly, your remarks could have deterred others who were possibly looking for action from visiting - and were therefore misleading - but thankfully others quickly jumped in to say that they weren't true in their experience and that there was action to be had.

21 hours ago, a-447 said:

"In fact I wasn't thinking of sex workers at all but hooking up in general".

Yeah, right! Especially on a forum discussing sex with Asian guys!

This is really insulting, but again, I shall assume this has been your experience because what you're in fact saying here is that all Asian guys are prostitutes. We know this isn't true from the many experiences we've heard on this forum and from friends of casual hook-ups with Asian guys where no money had exchanged hands. I know this from having a successful career and a robust income myself. But if your experience with Asian guys has only been with those who wanted to be paid, then that's fine too. We don't judge but has it ever occurred to you that your grasping attitude may be what's putting the non-moneyboys off?

By the way we don't only discuss sex with Asian guys on this forum; in case you haven't noticed, this thread was originally about African guys! Moreover, we don't only discuss sex; we talk about food, transportation, health issues, language, culture, etc.

21 hours ago, a-447 said:

As he said, 'Discuss the topic, not the policy or personality. Have fun and enjoy!'

The fact is, this board has a well-earned reputation over many years of posters not personally attacking others. I'm merely suggesting we keep it that way.

I'm done. Let's move on.

With due respect, this thread was merrily chugging along and we were having fun until you decided to butt in and respond to a post from Olddaddy that was directed at me. I don't mind this and was pleased to read that you enjoyed your time in KL and had intended to come again. Great, I thought! But then you went totally berserk and directed your anger at me when you found out that others had gotten laid in KL and you couldn't. I mean, what did I do? It wasn't my fault that you didn't get any. 🤷 Anyway I agree that we should move on and in parting all I wish to say is "Listen to your inner voice."