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Thank you for all the work you did putting this thread together for us.

hopefully No will become No # 1 for you this trip

In Pattaya you have three hotels right in the Boyztown, all should fit in your budget -Ambiance , Le Cafe Royale and Copa. I Bangkok BBB Inn is in the same block infamous soi Twilight is, You may check Agoda for deals on Raya - upscale place but often they have rooms at 1500, again in the same block. Across the street is Suriwongse Hotel, far from being upscale but good enough. If you want to be closer to Tawan and soi 6 -Nantra Silom and Glitz are your options as well as more expensive Tarntawan. Om Yim is a budget option short walk from there. Malaysia Hotel is very good value but a bit further away so you need to factor cost of taxi or MRT / subway, metro , tube/ + motorsai taxi / 40-60 baht one way from soi Twilight -main gay area, past midnight it may be as much as 100-150 if taxi driver will smell newbie to the BKK

isn't he former Happy Boys employee ? I remember seeing one of mixed race there last Dec

And this is how it should be done. I'm not advising to take vacation on credit , merely stating fact that often it's better to let hair loose a bit on vacations instead of worrying about every penny wasted. I still spend my vacations on low budget hence all those Om Yims and Malaysia hotels and gourmet dinnig at Foodland Patpong , indignity of flying cattle class etc but when comes to the boys I tend to overspend and i like it. When boy and I are parting ways we should be both smiling. On personal level unfortunately I finance most of my vacations by credit knowing how stupid it is. But my income stream is very unevenly distributed throughout the year so I take vacations during low income period when is easy to get time off work and pay them off when money is flowing faster. Wasteful a bit but it works for me.

I'm part of majority who like Vessey's thread but must notice that your recent musings about other's posts being unimportant and meaning nothing are outright nasty and too frequent. Force yourself to be nice !

last thing I would be considering is to leave boys' tip on credit card instead of cold cash in his palm. I'd be suspecting that part of his tip added to card would find way to owner's / mamasan's pocket. Hi tech is handy but also handy to screw people too

My advice to all pondering 4 hands massage would be to pick up one guy and let him to pick up another one. this is general advice , not related to your experience above since you did not mention selection process. But you are right - for 4 hands massage room must be much more spacious like VIP rooms at Hero and table must be accessible from all sides.

I, for one am gladly shackled in those traps but agree with you that on short vacation we should smile more and count money less as it's nothing worse than coming home thousands miles away and regretting missed off or being undermassaged. After all this is what lines of credits are for.

sure it's cash, how you can sweep your card through boy's crack in order to tip him with all that sweat and oil there ? Try to have exact change, best way to get big bill changed are change counters on BTS stations

+ 1 here

Certainly I'm one of those "many" you mentioned and for the same reason. And is somebody is inclined toward long time massage boys are offable as well

I'm not surprised, there's something in Thai boys that they look better in flesh that on the pictures. Was red haired one of the two you sampled?

welcome to the forum there's sub forum / check on main page / " Gay Romeo, Grinder ....' where those reviews are posted, If copy and paste doesn't work- use different browser or change your settings

thank you for a good laugh

Hot tea is great idea when bar hopping, One can drink only that much of coke but it seems capacity for tea is much higher and less sugar too / not in my case though, I like it sweet / Great assembly at BBB ! This very picture even if dark, makes all those long hours spent on the flight worthwhile. Get better soon alkoe- it looks like you caught cold from all those A/C 's. Switch from those cooled bars to Good Boys for day or two- warm air entertainment behind the partition. Scene at Funny boys typical - we ponder our choices looking at the coolest guy than some guy comes, looks and in split second grabs him from the stage and we are left licking our wounded pride and counting money saved on unpaid tip.

This is what few of us mentioned already, instead of complaining about high soi Twilight's prices utilize nearby alternatives in soi 6, more clients , more boys will look for opportunities there and if one is tired with twinks -Tawan is right there too. I like selection presented above , not exactly my types but all nice bodied enough to be considered offable, Super A boy in jeans I find particularly sexy. lucky you floridarob.

Vessye I'm glad you found your consolator J in your hour of need.

old advice not to discuss politics , religion and sex, however cursory, with strangers had proved it's value again. I'm going to Thailand for shopping and see temples, i'm in Thailand to shop and see temples and I was in Thailand shopping and visiting temples, this is version I stick to when talking to strangers. Only sex related subject I can tough with strangers in LOS is to point how to get to Nana Plaza or soi Cowboy or what BTS station is closest to the Patpong. Even when sitting at Maxi's or Dick's in soi Twilight and chatted by other patrons I steer clear from those subjects, inside of Go-go it's another story, there I feel on my territory.

yes you have live cows right in the BKK centre

great twist to your adventures and nice catch - you are moving in the right direction !

visit snake farm right across the street from soi Twilight, two different shows daily, than off few steps to see Wat Halampong with live cows, than back to BBB Inn or one of Soi Twilight massages for a massage

I can see a lot of potential above

I like watching evening procession of Chinese tours through Boyztown, they clearly look uncomfortable and out of place, most of them don't even look sideways but if they do they smile knowingly.

Bamboo bar in Jomtien can be utilized during daytime but you are right, other than massages no bar opportunities during day