vinapu

In the last month or so, I have been to Copa several times. One time there were about 4 gogo boys
who looked bored and were very manly and easily in their 30's. Another time there were about
a dozen with several stunners. I agree the swimming show is boring and much too long.
The show is generally entertaining and the best parts of it are the funny parts. Several of
the ladyboys are quite humourous and I find it the best cabaret show in Pattaya.
Firecat is doing a service by posting and I am enjoying the candid photos.
A-Bomb can be a great bar some nights for those who like bigger boys. The boys/men filter in
during the night and it can change from a just a few to quite a few in a hour or so.
Sad to hear Wild West Boys has slipped back. Hard to understand why it can be fun one night
and dead the next.
Mic My in Sunee Plaza changes too over time.
Excellent reporting Firecat and I am impressed with your range and frank reviews. Keep it up!

you are both smart, you did not fall in his trap of 400 and he was obviously trying to cash on his good looks - free market so why not. I can imagine somebody new to Pattaya  and little drunk carried over and  paying that much.
 
 
As for prohibition for  photos inside of bars I think it's good idea, last thing many people need is their face on somebody else's photo taken inside of bar and posted  on the facebook. Has nothing to do with debauchery, more with keeping private affairs private as it's nobody's business  how and where one spends vacations/weekends e.t.c.
 
And for 27th time thank you for keeping us entertained with your adventures

Firecat, this is one of the best threads I have seen from a travel perspective. Thank you for all the great info and photos!

They are totally different shows. Copa is much more of a Cabaret Show with fabulous costumes and some really good lip synching by boys dressed as women.  Yes there are many boys in the dance routines but they are a back up to the lip synching performers.

I am not a show person but there is no comparison between the show at Copa and the show in Jupiter.
 
Jupiter is an amateurish  production in comparison.

It's surprisingly often a case that boy short in the looks department is making up in the actual performance

I don't want to get in a back and forth and as we all know every night is different and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. However I was with 2 other people and we all agreed they were all young probably of age  but there were definitely some whose id cards would need to be looked at very carefully. 
 
I stand by my nothing has changed except the age might have gone up a year or two to be barely legal. Most of the boys were 150- 160 cm tall which can make them look younger.
 
My rule is I don't off anyone that I cannot feel comfortable walking down the street with because they look so young.  That eliminated everyone on that night even if they had been attractive to my eyes.
 
We all agreed it was not a stunning line up and it paled in comparison to the boys at City Boys who are also on the younger side but some real model types, in our humble opinions.
 
As always best to check out the bars for yourselves and you can see what side you fall on.

So went out last night.  Started with dinner at Ambience which was fair. Wished I had gone to Cafe Fellini on Soi 3 where the Italian food is quite good.
 
But was there when all the boys from Boys Boys Boys came out and lined up on the terrace of which their is a photo below.
 
First stop after dinner was FunnyBoys which as usual had a varied and excellent line up with quite a few new faces since July..
 
Then I wanted to give Wild West Boys another chance.  A complete waste of space with 2 boys and no customers and it will be my last visit there. They should close the doors.
 
Decided to stop at ABomb which I rarely visit and was pleasantly surprised with some very nice looking boys including some muscle for Vinapu. The 2 photos below are two boys from ABomb and there were some other equally good looking one. May have to add them to my stops if they keep having such quality.
 
Then it was on to the show at COPA.  Don't get tricked into arriving for a 1030pm start. It starts out with 2 boys swimming in the tank and after 5 minutes of repetition of the same moves, you just want it to end.  But it lasts 15 minutes.
 
But it gets worse after that they bring out the line up of GoGo staff which IMHO is about as unattractive boys that I have ever seen. This lasts for 20 minutes and then they start the Cabaret Show.  Be warned to arrive close to 11pm and not 1030 pm.
 
Cabaret show is quite good with many costumes and some very good dancing and lip synch work.  There were also some stunner boys in the show.. I don't whether they come out on stage as GoGo Boys after the show but they would certainly appeal to me.
 
I left a few minutes before the end of the show because after 65 minutes in 1 bar I was sick of it.  I would definitely go back but would arrive close to 11pm
 
That was it for the night. I saw quite a bit of muscle in the line up of Boy Boys Boys  and both FunnyBoys and ABomb had some .
 
Vinapu you will be quite happy sticking to that area.
 
By the way I had to give the last 2 boys 100 baht each for the photos.  What I won't do fo you guys..  HeHeHe

No-as compared on average, rates for us tend to be lower.
The range can even be wider. 300 is also possible in many cases-and no, these are not the tipical drugged hookers most of you can only think of. More like girls with normal job and sleeping over with a near same age BF-hoping for some marriage.
The top of the range are Thai Models (thats anyone who has ever been in some of the 1000+ magazines or on TV-or won some of the 12345+ beautycontests), that have long waiting lists for prospective clients. There surely are a very few gays adonis too doing that- and they wont be in any club.
 Again I wonder why so many of you need such an awful long time to grasp how some of the many aberrations in Thai society seem to work?

vacation after all should be vacation from everything, penny pinching included.
 
Often in my travels I met and  felt sorry for people who spent fortune to travel somewhere and after arrival they seem to  deprive themselves even cheapest pleasantries in order not to overpay or haggle with locals over equivalent of 30 cents just for sake of haggling.
 
Personally I do not see need for fancy hotels but understand that some travelers may get  fun living few days in luxury and splurging on it. The same goes for taxis and fancy restaurants. On another hand I spend silly amounts on luxury  massage treatments I don't even have need for other than for sake of sheer indulgence , why not ?
 
I enjoyed Gold's posts immensely and my favorite part was his encounter with Tawan boy-brilliant idea instead of getting massage from boy why not to reverse roles. Gee , getting hot in here ! Lol

Gold ,
 
don't worry about this. Every board will have inflamers who will be trying derail thread , gay forums are not exception.
Don't get discouraged by this, it's price we need to pay for anonymity of participation. 
 
You do not need to justify your spending habits to anybody as it's nobody's business.
Some people are driving fancy cars, wearing expensive jewelry, why others can't spent their money on expensive hotels, clothes , drinks e.t.c.  
 
as for point 3:
it's possible that people with lots of time in their hands and good imagination and writing skills would invent and post stories just to entertain themselves and possibly others, may be to improve their self-esteem as well to show everybody how worldly they are  . Again,  gay boards are not immune to this. Like Italians say " si non e vero, e ben trovato" - "even if not true at least is well invented".
 
This summer I was confined home for several weeks and being stuck , among other things entertained myself  by combing through 3 most popular Thai gay forums and  definitely some stories were in this category. Sample I remember:  in 2006 poster is commenting as eye witness on some recent  goings in Tawan bar, in 2011 the same poster    is asking some questions claiming  is coming back for vacation  after  20 years absence  in Thailand .
 
But really  where's harm  IMHO? Not that I condone fiction, just trying to state that it can't be avoided so why bother to worry.
 
Thank you for great reports and keep posting without worry what trolls will say.
 
You should be commended as many people are looking for information and won't even bother to thank , not to mention to repay posters with even shortest  trip report we so  love to read.

I met up with Devint.  His internet connection is terrible so he will post after he returns to Bangkok.

Hey guys, 
 
Sorry to have opened a new thread but my thread has been locked before I had the chance to comment on the recent posts there. 
 
Original thread: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/9167-my-first-thailand-trip/
 
So just a few words back to the one who doubted me: 
 
1. Lets get the details correctly, I stayed in a 400 USD room (for just one night) but shared it with a friend (not my BF - he did not join this trip), so it was actually 200 USD for me. 
2. Maybe an average Israeli student cannot afford my trip. I could, I have a good job.
3. I still cannot understand, what motivation could an individual possibly have to share his experiences regarding Thailand with people that do not know him and to lie about it. I don't really think anyone would take the time doing so. 
 
And once again, 10x all for the tips  

I second that. I live in Bangkok and could go to Soi Twilight every night, but go only once per week and then only for looking, often not even into a bar, just in the Soi. Save my money for Pattaya, much better value for money and I like the attitude better.
 
Thank you for all your updates, in this and the gayromeo thread.
 
It was just a question of time until boys I know come up in this thread. One seems to like me (at least he contacts me whenever we meet in real life or online), but he is not my type. For the other one, the attraction is mutual and I meet him every time I go to Pattaya.

The easiest place is Boystown.  FunnyBoys and ToyBoys are across from each other . ToyBoys usually has some smaller muscle guys.
 
Boys Boys Boys is 1 minute down the street and they definitely have some real muscle guys and then the next street over is ABomb which should have the type you like. Start looking at 9pm for best choice.
 
Based on what you say you like , you will be wasting your time going to Sunee.  95% skinny twinks which I like.
 
Pattaya will never be Bangkok but you can take elephant rides , go to the Tiger Farm , take speedboat to KoHLan for snorkeling etc etc etc.  There are things to do.
 
WHat it lacks in big city things it makes up in the availability of boys at all hours and far less money then Bangkok whether from Bars , Gayromeo, Grindr etc etc etc.

re #6: to buy gold for your boyfriend?
 
Michael, you happened to be there during vegetarian festival (about Oct 5-13). I wanted to go, but didn't make it.

Take MRT / underground  / to Hualampong / railway station / and just dive in maze of Chinatown streets

Fedssocr the 2nd boy I found on Jack'd and never did ask him if he was on Gayromeo.  He was shy but fun.
 
I love BKK but if it is SEX you are interested in then Pattaya wins easily.  Far more boys at far better prices and much easier to set up meetings.
 
Certainly at least 3 bars have some muscle for  you Vinapu and there are many more options during the day and much easier to set up because rarely is a boy more then 15 minutes from your Hotel.
 
Where as in Bangkok they could depending on traffic be 2 hours away.

Please, carry on starting away there as I'm just more surprised that this illiterate who claims English as his first (and only) language even picked up on it and I can assure you that i was merely commenting on the humorous possibilities of the thread title rather than it's grammatical correctness or otherwise :-) ! 

Just  3 stops tonight.  First was Krazy Dragon.  They did not have the 20 boys some had reported but there were 15 and varied and attractive. Music was at a level that allowed conversation and no longer any strobe lights that some had complained about.
 
Next was Mic My where little has changed .  A lot of small boys who I would guess were of age but certainly you would have to be very careful and check id's closely.  In my eyes there were at least 2 questionable boys who very well might be of age. Suffice it to say overall it was a very young looking group of boys and not that attractive.
 
Next was CityBoys.  The line up there bordered on outstanding IMHO.  I'll admit I am a face person and they had some really great faces.  Only 7 boys but I would have taken any one of them home and 2 were Stunners.
 
Sorry Vinapu there is nothing for yo at these 3 bars.

This is what happens when illiterates whose English is only third language dare to start a  thread.  LOL

On many occasions I noticed that bad weather speeds decision process considerably so it' may be why boys were flying off the shelf and good for them in the low season.
 
What's exactly wrong with older and more muscled ?
 
Great post within equally great thread !

Have to admit I read the thread title and my first thought was "why would ANYONE want to steal a ladyboy !" :-)

I was in Toy Boys last weekend and we were there early due to rain.  I was amazed to see about a dozen boys offed in the
9PM-10PM time range, almost all by Asian men whom I believe were Chinese.  If one walked in about 10PM, one would
think Toy Boys was low on boys. 
If you are in Boyztown any evening around 8:20, outside of Boyzboyzboyz the entire lineup of boys stand outside and
sing and clap along with the music.  Granted, some are older and more muscled, but many are younger.  You will see at
least 25 shirtless lads and get a clear picture of what to expect.  Also about a dozen clothed boys are there too and some
appear in the sexy boy show and are amazing.  Best vantage point to see the early lineup is Oscars.
Agree Wild West Boys very hot and cold.  Last time I went it was pistol hot with a dozen eager friendly lads and two or
three stunners.  Other friends went a night or two later and it was back to 3 or 4 boys.

You not being "surprised", I suppose, is your way of suggesting that others here are a bunch of gullible dumb asses.  Now, given that's the case in your mind, why would you want to hang around here?