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I believe some clarification is necessáry regading my recent posts: I was trying to let somebody that seems unfamiliar to Brazilian saunas that the gorgeous guys seen in pictures are very unlikely to Walk around stark naked with a hard-on and even the guys that do it would never agree to a blow Job in plain view. Some people that has never been to Brazil fantasyzes is a place where everything goes and is not exactly, some stuff is just unnaceptable.
Regarding the atractiveness of sleaze boys, if they look attractive to you it's all that matters, who cares what the majority thinks? The important thing is getting the one you expect will give you a good time. Regarding the sleaziness depending on each one fantasy, that's exactly the Point, right? So if is your case just get the public wanker, Take him to a suite and have a ball, nothing wrong with it.
Regarding boys wearing a brief I totally agree, they most likely have a small Dick, although they are not necesserally snotty, in many cases they know their dicks are not their main selling point and they try to avoid nixing a deal right up front. In my case if I don't see it even in a quick flash is a total deal breaker, I don't care how attractive the guy is. I believe the customer is entitled to see the product he is paying for.
Regarding the chit-chat for me is totally part of the experience. The sound of the voice of the guy I fancy is the sound of heaven.

Hi Guys,
The ongoing debate on garotos in SP showing-or-not their meat brought this naughty question to mind.
Since apparently some of them some of the time are wanking in public (in order to entice customers), what would happen if this activity is upgraded?
For example: I approach the garoto I like, slip him some bills, kneel btw his legs, and suck to our hearts content.....
What would happen?
Is this formally and explicitly forbidden?
Would the garoto object?
Would the management throw me out?
How would others react?
Has this happened before?
Just a thought.....actually a fantasy, but I would like your insights.
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Athens Greece 2016
For cruising and punters there is very little current information in English for Athens. I could not find anything approaching a decent gay map for Athens either.
For a regular gay night out on Friday or Saturday night, most go to Gazi, just west of central Athens.
For boys, Athens is not what it was 5-10 yrs ago. Quite a pity. Despite all the immigration troubles, there is not a huge selection of boys available for hire. (I do not wish the troubles on anyone.)
There is a park just 4 blocks north of the National Archeological Museum. Near the SW entrance, it has lots of drug users. Far more more than in the past. In the western half of the park there are 2 small
churches. As you face each church, there are obvious areas of use to the right, given all of the condoms on the ground etc. But mostly other horny guys and virtually all over 30-35 y.o. That can be lots of fun. There are groups of younger immigrant guys wandering around, but they mostly seem to be hanging out and not that interested in making money, although many older guys would pay.You can play in the woods off any path. The Greeks seem to have absolutely no issues about this. Just stay out of site if playing, as some kids and families do use the park. All of my comments are for late afternoon activities. Not sure how safe the park is after sundown.
I have seen some postings about the Zappeion area - which is about a 1km or so SE, but have never been there at MN.
Bars with boys: Barino 22 Makedonias (my spelling might be off), S of Victoria Metro - was padlocked. But maybe just for the winter. Paint and padlock looked new.
Sammy's, 30ish Filis, just north was open at MN Sat. night. Less than 12 older guys and I only saw a few boys, so I left quickly.
I could not find a bar called Epta near Derigni and Attalos, NW of Victoria M.
Test Me is at 64 Pipinou N of Victoria M. Lots of punters and maybe 8 boys at MN Sat night. But where to go to play? Most hotels would likely not allow a romp, but there was a posting elsewhere about a
nearby hotel by the hour or equivalent.So by Athens standards, likely not cheap. Maybe, from the other posting, 50-100+ Euros in all. Not expensive compared to Berlin or Spain.
There might also be some places SE of the Acropolis Museum on Lempesi St, but I cannot comment.
The 3 saunas do not get great reviews, even for non paid sex.
There are some adult video stores or arcades. Not certain if any boys go there.
That leaves the Kosmoplit Cinema about 2 blocks N of Omonia M and next to the Kosmopolit hotel (mind you there are different spellings in English). 4.50 Euro admission, likely good all day with in and out privileges I think. The old days of the other cinemas are far gone. The boys at the KC often do not do as expected, but do not seem too pushy. 10-30 Euros depending on the boy and your interests. At least they accept the agreed price without trying to rob or mug you. So even a boy that does not do as expected will not set you back too much money, and you can still have a bit of fun, and then try another. You can play in the cinema, but most all meet there, chat a bit, and head to bathroom downstairs. There are also 2 other rooms to play in.
Certainly less than prices to play in Germany or Spain. However those guys are hunkier and more likely to offer what was agreed to. I had difficulty in finding boys who would bottom, some would only offer to let you suck them. If they suck you, they put a condom on you. I would not doubt that the boys come and go quickly. Many spoke arabic.
We could really use some additional info and a good map for all of this.
It is not the same as yrs ago, but still fun.

Thank you for your trip report TravGuy! I find it amazing that in countries with high unemployment (Spain and Greece come to mind) there are not more local fellas looking to make some easy money

Haven't been (yet) but Cityboys in Dusseldorf is a place with boys and rooms (with actual Germans !) :http://www.cityboys.eu/

I like your ..."bi, leaning towards straight." ...or "gay for pay" or as you wrote in your private to me! Thanks for answering!

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I love Airbnb. I've been using them for a couple of years and have never had any problems. My trips are all 30 days or more, so much cheaper than a hotel. With long stays it's great having a kitchen. Just my opinion.

Yoel kissed but not with much enthusiasm. The other fellow was much more romantic, but he is not professional rent boy. I gave him some money as gift. I think Yoel is probably bi, leaning towards straight.

Yeah, I disagree.... the boys have seen and done things that would make your head spin.
I hang out with the guys and we talk alot....about EVERYTHING.... you are right, many (not all) of the boys talk about clients and their likes/dislikes, but how many guys say they are ONLY TOP but then when in the room alone are willing to do everything. They say that to save face in public.

I feel sorry for your boys.
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While I agree that the parks in Rio are generally dangerous based on a lot of reported crime, the parks in Sao Paulo are quite another thing. I think the reason for so little crime around the Sao Paulo parks might be due to many hourly hotels within steps of many parks.
Hourly hotels are cheap. They run between 20 - 30 reais for one hour. The personnel at the hotel keeps the I D of the garoto until you both leave. Most hotels are locked after you are assigned a room, which means that if a garoto caused a problem, the garoto would have a problem leaving the hotel. Furthermore, the garoto would forever be forbidden to return to the hotel with future clients.
For example, Trionon park, on Avenida Paulista, is in one of the nicest streets in the city. The park is heavily patrolled by police (prostitution is not illegal in Brazil) and it is easy to meet garotos there during most parts of the day. On occasion, a policeman offers his services to interested park visitors if there are not many people in the park.
Another park that is nice (but not as nice as Trionon Park) is Ibirapuera Park where there is a nightly parade of hustlers similar to what one would find in Sao Paulo's only hustler bar, Bar Fama.
I have never heard of anyone getting mugged in parks or at Bar Fama.
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No idea where you are from and how much experience you have in Thailand but I can tell you for sure I have known many boys who no one would have guessed were even 25 when in fact they were in their 30's.
I saw the same boy for 4 years in BKK , traveled in Thailand with him. Never asked his age. I like twinks and he had the look I liked .
Then one time he went on my computer and left a gay Thai dating site on where his photo was and his age listed at 33. I was amazed and told him I didn't believe it and then for the first time he showed me his ID and sure enough he was 33.
Would of bet a lot of money he was 25 or under. The only open question is whether he would have told me when I first met him that he was 33.
It would have made no difference.

As most of you know that have kept up with this site for years, I love Hero Massage. I think it is perhaps the best massage place in the world (at least in Thailand).
The guys there are always plentiful and great bodies.
I have had good results there on many occasions and this trip was no exception.
I was very disappointed to hear that my regular for many many years Lek had moved on. He was always there and reliable. So, I now have to find another regular.
I picked 2 guys for a 4 handed massage. They were both sexy and hot and versatile. I had asked for boys that could do everything. One of the boys, Mr. C. I had been with on a few times previously and knew he was good sex but less than great massage. The other one was Mr. Way and he was hot and cute. Mr. C. is 24 and Mr. Way is 27. Both look much younger.
The massage went OK. Mr. C. is always rushing trying to get to the sex part so he can end early and move to next customer. Mr. Way was good massage. He was strong and through.
When it was time for sex, we both took turns fucking Mr. Way and then we both took turns fucking Mr. C. They were both passionate and fun. It was a great 3 way for Thailand. I have better 3ways in Brazil but Brazilian boys love them and many Thai boys do not.
I booked the private VIP room and it cost 1250 baht. The boys minimum tip is 1,000 baht. Money well spent on a great afternoon.
Address: 65 Sukhumvit Soi 11 Google coordinate: https://maps.google....7498,100.556362 The photo of C was from a thread back 2 years ago. Boytoy The photo of Mr. Way was taken this week.

I think I saw him a few years ago. He is very good looking and he was fine in bed and I think I paid 1500 short time which at the time was the high end of the going rate.
Look I don't know where you are from and what you have to pay in your home country. That is cheap compared to USA rates which is exactly why he advertises in the Escort section. He hopes people who are not familiar with acceptable prices will pay him more then what many boys that good looking can be had for less.
Keep in mind there are many boys in the regular section that are that good looking and their photos may not be professionally done and retouched and yet you will have a great time .
Of course in Bangkok not all the boys are prostitutes on Romeo where as in Pattaya , certainly more then 1/2 are.
It may seem inexpensive to you and if that is the case go for it. If you'd rather see 2 boys for the same price then go looking in the Bars etc.
At any rate I would never pay him what he asked and would counter at 3000. You have nothing to lose.

Thought I'd post a few photos of just a couple of the magnificent buildings here. Might Have to change my mind about Grindr. Some real cuties showed up last night and I am meeting the boy in the photo later today.
Lots of free boys/men here if you want to go with 30-40 year olds . I am spoiled , I like them 18-24 and quite comfortable paying but others may feel different.

I have finally made it to Mexico City. It has been on my list for awhile and with a push from Floridarob I arrived yesterday. Short 3 hour flight from Atlanta which is the reason I was looking at it. Getting too old for those 26 hour trips to Thailand more then once a year. Luckily the $ has been extremely strong so 17 pesos to the dollar was the rate.

Airport is definitely old but clean. I was first off the airplane so short line through immigration and customs. They have like 4 taxi companies where you buy in advance in the terminal. The rates vary greatly. Not sure why probably because of size of car etc.

I choose the cheapest at 225 pesos $13.00. No waiting , small car but clean. About 20 minutes to the Hotel. I am staying at the LeMeridien on points. An all suite hotel and the rate if you pay is about $100 so it would appear nice Hotels are very fairly priced.

For future trips I did look on Airbnb and found many nice apartments at $70 or less in good locations. This is a big city so you need to know where you will be staying so as not have trouble getting boys etc.

The Hotel has had no problem with guests but need key for elevator so I meet them out front.

I have had a couple of real nice meals in sit down restaurants where I could not finish the plates and the prices were reasonable.

I used this site ( http://mx.mileroticos.com/escorts-gay/) posted by Floridarob and mainly Hornet to find possible boys in advance of my trip.

Did not find Gayromeo much use and Hornet way better then Jack'd or Grindr. I do not like Saunas so did not bother looking for info but I understand there are 1 or 2.

Pretty sure there are no GoGo Bars in the way Thai visitors think of them but I could be wrong.

I love the apps but it is more challenging here because I speak little Spanish and the boys are not used to using translations on their phone. I would say 20% speak some English. The others I use Google Translate on my laptop to make offers and set dates.

I am looking for Twink Bottoms and I would have to say the majority of boys interested in money are Tops but there are so many boys , it is not a problem finding Bottoms. I just say hi and ask to see private photos and then shortly after I put Sexo Por Dinero. If a boy does not respond I delete him and move on. I would say at least 40% ask how much and for how long. Once they ask that question it just becomes a matter of making sure they know what you want and are willing to pay.

I am certainly no expert after 2 days but the prices have quite a wide range. When a boy asked me how much I start at 700 pesos $40 which is a bit higher then the bottom because I know some escorts on the link I supplied ask as low as 400 $23.

There are quite a few Colombian boy who visit and they are asking 1500-2000 which is 2 to 3 times what they can get in their home Country. Don't know if they get it but not from me.

I have 1 boy I plan on paying 1000 because he started at 1500 and I want him . Just about everyone else has been fine with 700.

Frankly there are so many boys , there is no reason to overpay.

I'll post a few city photos later on but there are parts that are quite beautiful with wide Boulevards lined with trees..

The photos below are all photos from the boys and so far they have looked exactly like the photos with maybe a little photo shop on some.

I forgot to mention that I failed to check the altitude before this trip and was worried when I realized it is over 7000 ft ASL. Bogota was 8700 ft ASL and it took me 24 hours to be able to walk to the corner. I have had only a little problem here of being tired from walking sooner then normal.

I forgot to mention, my kind of weather , in the 50's at night and the 70's during the day. No rain in the forecast .

This is the man to whom I alluded in my earlier post. I did not include the specifics. Thanks, SolaceSoul.

Marcelo Vidal is a gay tour guide who speaks perfect English and does all kinds of Rio tours, from sauna tours to favela tours to gay bar tours to standard fare like Sugarloaf and Corcovado.
His is knowledgeable and helpful especially for first timers. He is often seen at the saunas with foreign tourists for which he is providing a tour.
His email address is celovidal@hotmail.com

There is one guy who has a goggle account as a guide in Rio de janeiro. He's gay, speaks English, and received some negative reviews a few years back. I think he's improved based on some comments I read somewhere a few months back. His name is Marcelo and is NOT to be confused with the stellar guide in Buenos Aires. Do a google check and write to him citing your specific needs and wants and desires. This young man served as a guide for a good acquaintance of mine some years back and was a dud then, but again, I think his services have apparently changed.
Danilo is based in Sao Paulo and continues to serve as a guide. He's on my FB page and writes daily. Last summer he guided two friends of mine and received high marks from them. In the mid 2000s he guided my friend in both Sao Paulo and Rio. If you desire his flying to Rio and meeting you as a guide for culture only, he'll do that. He has apparently divorced himself from taking guys to saunas from what my friends revealed to me, for today he is involved in high end guiding for the cultural components of a country, town, city, etc. He was in Turkey last year and posted on FB regarding this trip.