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    paulsf reacted to vinapu in Summer in Bangkok, another trip report this year   
    When I returned from my ‘reward’ trip in beginning of June I did not have any idea when next trip may be. In summer I was planning to see my sister  living in another country. Family politics though created some free time before I went to see her and I decided to utilize it for yet another trip this year.
     Main motivation was that two of my forum friends , further referred as MJ and MK were planning to be there in BKK at the same time and then , as reinforcement,  another one,  MA, announced he will be arriving few days after me.
     Secondary motivation was they I never been in Thailand in July and now after returning from that trip I have only March and April to cover.  
    Since it was trip within previously arranged trip there were some potential connection problems i.e . my ticket was non-refundable and I had only 3 hours to make connection in Berlin but all went according to the plan.
    Last trip I was complaining about yakking neighbors, this time it was my turn as I had two seat companions, , elderly Swede and young, handsome like hell,  half-Thai and half-French, both talkative so I must say flight went very fast, not that we were talking all the time.
    Arrived at noon, small jubilee as it was 30th landing in Thialand . I smartly decided to utilize luggage waiting time to buy SIM card and it was bright idea as my suitcase popped out exactly in moment I approached conveyor belt. In 1 hour from landing I was already  in the train reporting to reader, MJ and MK that all went well and I’m in Bangkok indeed.
    I like to change hotels every 2 -3 nights but this time I decided to settle in 9-4 configuration and my hotel for first 9 night was Quarter SalaDaeng, former Siri Sathorn. About 10 minutes walk from Sala Daeng BTS. Room was impressive , rather like small apartment with separate living room , kitchen and bedroom areas and with quite opulent buffet breakfast included.
    Very good value for money although not all was rosy. As it turned later walls were paper thin and at night I/we ( in Thailand I rarely sleep alone out of fear of ghosts) could hear very well what is going on on other side. Also to get hot water some time  was required before it started lowing. MK who stay in the same hotel  did not have such problem though.
     Day 1
     Soon after I tidy myself over after long trek MK knocked to my door , it was our first meeting since pre-covid. It was nice to see old friend after such long break. Next  was walk to XOne on Suriwong  to exchange some money and I found rate quite good, nice surprise.
     Straight from there to Coffee Grinder for meeting with reader. I managed to catch him day before his return home so we had good time exchanging latest news while ogling cute waiters in the process.
     At 8.30 three of us , MJ who is staying nearby , MK and me went to G’Bangkok for dinner. Mid week and low season- both were evident as place was quite empty.
    Since we were in soi 4 already next step was kind of obvious-Jupiter. Not very busy as well so we got very good seats . There were 4 walkabouts by their boys, first in briefs , second in boxers, last two in jeans but with numbers. Most boys sported those so not many were offed or reserved, another sign of low season. We stay till end of show and then I decided to start improving economy , called muscular and hairless Vietnamese named Tam.
     As always I asked about long time but we couldn’t come to terms about compensation so we settled on hot and steamy, very pleasant although bit rushed in true Jupiter form , short time. I liked him very much  and would gladly employ him few more  times but since his request was above what I’m was prepared to fork out it was our last meeting this trip even if he tried to extract subsequent offs by messaging me daily.  I stay firm declining  those advances. Next time ,next trip ,  yes.  
    Day 2
     After long trip and steamy meeting I slept very well, like a stone. MJ joined me for a breakfast as his place is not offering it  and I have one for two anyways. As always we exchanged news  and impressions and decided to go to Jey Spa for 2 pm. We went by Grab, I booked the same guy I had few times previously- Maii . He remembered me and remembered what I like. Who cares about massage ? Great session , great guy, great place with great selection.
     In the afternoon a bit of jet lag so I collapsed on the bed for few hours.
     At 8.30 again our trio MJ,  MK and me went to G’Bangkok for dinner warmly greeted by the boss himself (he was absent yesterday) who was surprised to see me again after only few weeks.
    Restaurant was busy for a change.
     Next we opted for Moonlight tonight. Not very busy,  again low season. Neither A nor Y, my favorites from there were present but I noticed new , very cute boy. Mamasan told me he is Cambodian who started just today. So I rushed with 100 note toward him for a good start but asked mamasan to call Y and ask if he wants to go with me.
     Description of customer was somewhat not clear because Y asked to see my picture and only when mamasan sent it  to him he said is rushing immediately. When he mention shower I told him not to bother he can take in my room. Soon he came , all smiles. Not long after we were walking home.
     Offer of dinner declined but as soon as we entered room he asked for few minutes so he can go and buy something to eat. I noticed certain patter here as it was not first time. Either he doesn’t want to be seen with farang in restaurant or,  much more likely he doesn’t want me to spent too much money on his food.
    It did not take much time for him to return so we could start discussing recent elections of village councils in Burkina Faso and Eswatini ( former Swaziland). Not sure people on other side of wall could hear us but for sure we could hear them , more or less discussing the same elections but in guy/ girl configuration.
    Y is great guy who knows how to keep me smiling, that was my last thought before falling asleep.
     
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    paulsf reacted to vinapu in I gave up on money boys   
    It, s very easy to see what type of posts are attracting most views here as it,s indicated on main page by the each post. Almost all most viewed have "bar", "boy", "trip report" etc. in their tittle. Pretty accurate where readership interest is. 
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    paulsf reacted to floridarob in Burmese & Vietnam Bar/Massage Boys   
    25 yrs in Thailand and been with 2 Burmese & 2 Vietnamese, can't wait until you try and African.  Imagine if we all bases our opinions of an entire population on 2 experiences, everyone would hate Americans more than they already do..... you make gayinpattaya seem like a reasonable saint 😱
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    paulsf reacted to Daddy415 in Trip Report July 2023   
    I'm on my way home after a few amazing days in Bangkok. Before my trip I read this forum from top to bottom and took copious notes on the Bangkok massage scene, places to go, etc. I took a lot of notes to help me remember for my next visit. I wish I could share therapist names here because they are not all created equal and I ran into some total duds as well as some amazing ones.
     
    Here's my take on the massage places:
     
    1. S'sense massage - by far my worst experience and the only massage I walked out on in the middle. When I arrived, they did the "bait and switch" and said my therapist was not available but tried to offer me another one who was not my type. I asked for someone else and they gave me one who was cute but a total dud. I laid there bored while the therapist gave me a massage that seemed to focus on the calves and feet FOREVER. Zero fun stuff. I remembered reading on this forum that if you're in that situation, just get up and walk out, and I did just that. I hopped into a Grab (that app is awesome! The way Uber was when it first launched... clean cars great drivers cheap cheap cheap) and went to PARADISE...
     
    2. Paradise is on the street with all the gay massage places in Silom 6. Basically by my third day therapists recognized me and told me they saw me walking the street HAHAHAHAHA. Small town. It's clean, friendly, and I had one of my best therapists there... good lord he was huge and ready for action. Not the cutest but again this forum indicated that the cuter they are the less they do and that's usually right based on my experience this week. Did I mention huge? Anyway excellent masssage and double x 2 happiness.
    3. Relax Massage - my husband went here, right across from Paradise (he also checked out Mr. Big at Paradise) and had a good massage with a cute guy. They are running a "rainy season special" and are half the price of Paradise. Great value.
    4. JeySPA.... you knew this one was coming! This consistently ranks high on this forum so my final day there I splurged (it's definitely spendy with a tip of 1500 baht) ... I was very clear what I was looking for (big everything with six pack abs) and OH MY GOD did they deliver. They sent photos that let me know exactly what I was in for. That was one of my best massages in Bangkok (best massage of the trip was in Samui, but that's a different post...)  Very clean and yes as others have said, horrible traffic in that area so I took a Grab but wished I had taken the train. Easy to find with Google maps. You can negotiate on the room price.
    5. Prime - 90 min head/feet and then 90 min Thai by the same guy who was touchy but Prime doesn't seem to go beyond massage and that's fine... it was just amazing. Great massage with great technique, clean, and they give you pajamas (I didn't wear the top) and you just feel like you're being pampered.
    6. Green Massage - I wish I had time to go here... looked good and would love to read someone else's feedback
    7. 9-Teen - on same road with 2 & 3 above, they did the bait and switch again when I arrived... I rejected their substitution and they found someone suitable, but he started negotiating tip in middle of massage before he would even remove his shirt. That was a HUGE turnoff and I felt like I was in a used car lot all of a sudden. All the other therapists at other places were much more subtle or trusted you to tip the min 1000 baht. My husband ran into the same thing. We did not return here and cancelled subsequent appointments we had made.
    8. Natural Spa - super friendly guys and one of my cuter therapists (straight, small assets) worked there then kept in touch on Line but I didn't return due to aforementioned small assets. Room smelled musty and towels weren't fresh smelling. But they do seem to have cuter guys than the others.... I wouldn't rule them out next time but wish their rooms were cleaner. This also seems to be the feedback on Google reviews.
    9. Magic Touch Massage with Mr. Tree... this was our first massage in Bangkok and was very mediocre. Shower didn't work and therapist wasn't very skilled in anything. Would not recommend.
    Things I learned:
    1. This is all really close to the Skytrain. When we first arrived we had some trouble with Google maps and it seemed like we walked all over. Silom 6 is maybe 8 mins from the station and there's lots to see on the way.
    2. Great lunch spot in the heart of it all is Mango Tree Surawong. If you're a massage whore like we are,  book 11 am massages, then lunch at Mango, then walk 2 mins to Prime for a real massage, happy finish at Paradise or Relax/Natural Spa.
    3. This I haven't figured out but I developed some theories on this. Most guys who weren't that into it I asked if they were straight and yes they were. As a top that provides limited options for me which is why I was going for SIZE and appearance. One guy showed me photos of his girlfriend. They are all really sweet but I wish there were a way to color code the t-shirts... red is top, blue is bottom, purple is both.... I assume the blue shirts would be the gay guys but I may be making an incorrect assumption there. I think next time I'll try to ask for some bottoms even though I don't want to  do anything more than play... see #4 below...
    4. These guys have got to be riddled with all sorts of diseases. NO way would I consider anything unsafe, but I was able to have a lot of fun nonetheless. It does seem like most of the clients go there to just get PLOWED because everytime I got on a massage table they went straight for my butt and I had to make the universal sign for no intercourse but just playing. I do not hold any judgment against anyone who wants to take more risks, I am just saying that once I got there and saw the guys and the environment and the steady stream of customers I knew that my shields were going to be up and I would still have fun. AND I DID. (See JeySpa again).
    5. I did not go to 15M based on feedback on this forum.
    6. The drag (?) cabaret at Asiatique was AMAZING!! Calypso!! We were grinning ear to ear the entire show... if you buy tickets, buy them from their site (not Klook or resellers) and put in comments you are gay and excited to see show. We did that and they gave us the best seats in the house. (Seats are assigned by them earlier in the day, then they print tickets when you arrive)... huge highlight of our visit. It would be fun to see with a group - the audience was all reserved asians for the most parts and there were points where we were the only ones clapping and cheering them on. Those boys were working hard and dancing their asses off.
    7. I walked through Silom 4 and loved the drag show there, but felt sort of self conscious as I was dressed for dinner at Vertigo and it was really strange walking the catwalk (street) with all the chairs and tables facing you... I needed someone to show me the ropes. My masseur from Natural Massage offered to come with me but he didn't speak English and I wanted some alone time.
    8. Really regret not having time to try The Green Massage.

    I hope this helps someone else who may fit our profile (newbie, more conservative, clueless and naive at times, see newbie part). Thanks to all who have posted here offering advice and help… I found it immensely useful as I planned our trip!! 
     
     
     
     
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    paulsf reacted to floridarob in New in Bangkok. I   
    Oh, she's real..... even more entertaining in person, lol
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    paulsf reacted to reader in Best GoGo Bar   
    Best wishes for a quick recovery but not once in 21 years have I been tempted. Bangkok provides more than I can handle.🙂
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    paulsf reacted to jason1975 in Any good Jupiter experiences?   
    I still have to confirm my work schedule. I bet the Viet guys miss you!
    Speaking of Viet guys, on my last night in Bangkok last month, I was at Freshboys to pick up a guy and suddenly a Viet guy called out to me. He was working as waiter and used to be from old Soi Twilight!
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    paulsf got a reaction from JimmyJoe in I hate American   
    If the Grossly Obese AA security woman was of what you consider normal size, would it have changed your story at all.    Was she AA security person or a TSA agent.?    Glad you got your wine when you made it onboard.  
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    paulsf got a reaction from Lucky in I hate American   
    If the Grossly Obese AA security woman was of what you consider normal size, would it have changed your story at all.    Was she AA security person or a TSA agent.?    Glad you got your wine when you made it onboard.  
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    paulsf got a reaction from TotallyOz in July 8, 2023 Plan to visit every gay gogo bar in gay Bangkok   
    Oz, they’ll have to wait just a bit longer. I’ll be arriving in September.  
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    paulsf reacted to TotallyOz in July 8, 2023 Plan to visit every gay gogo bar in gay Bangkok   
    BTW: this was at least 8 Vietnam boys I met. @paulsf are you hearing this?   I think they are calling your name... can you hear it softly... paul..paul...paul....
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    paulsf reacted to TotallyOz in July 8, 2023 Plan to visit every gay gogo bar in gay Bangkok   
    I went to the area early last night to have time to visit every bar and see how things were. I started out at Screwboys and I enjoyed it. They had some twinks and I had some fun. They had one guy I liked and had for a drink and he was straight and said I could watch him JO.   I passed but tipped him well. The place had an NBA theme which I enjoyed and a lot of boys. Not many fem boys that I saw but everything else.
    Next was the bar upstairs Fresh Boys and they had even more boys and lots of twinks, gays, and fems. I found a guy I liked who spoke good English and we chatted for a bit but I knew he was not for me for the night. Another on stage caught my eye and I had him over for a drink as well. They were both Vietnamese. The 2nd one I wanted to stay with me for the night and I took him home with me and my plans to visit the rest of the bars were put on hold.
    Oh, well, at least the places I visited were packed with boys and lots of variety.
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    paulsf reacted to coffeegrindersilom in Coffee Grinder Silom   
    Thank you very much Reader for welcoming Mac! Our team is now complete with Benz (the one from cookie tray😍), Mac and Myo.
    Vinapu, it will be nice to see you again with us! And welcome 10tazione whenever you want.
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    paulsf reacted to TotallyOz in Anyone meet boys other places   
    I may be in the minority, but I do think the rate does have correlation to better performance. I do often tip more than the minimum and the first time a guy is with me they are usually OK or good because I tell them exactly what I want in advance. However, if they are repeat performers, they know I tip well and they know it is a great deal for them and they try to achieve.
    For example, I have two guys for a threeway each week. I tip them both 3,500 thb. They are consistently wonderful and I think deserve every baht for the long distance and the great massage and sex. A few weeks back, one of the boys was unavailable and he brought a friend who was not up to part and suggested just a jo. I looked at the new boy and said, no problem but only 1k baht. To that, he changed and delivered a slightly better performance. He was a one time change of a guy and when both gone, the boy I had been seeing wrote and apologize and said that would never happen again. Just to be clear, it did not and he knew if he ever brought someone like that again, his own reputation was on the line. This week, he was away and his friend who comes with him brought another boy who IMHO, is one of the best I have had in ages (yes I say that a lot). But, he also got the same tip and was extraordinary.
    I found the same thing in Brazil saunas. I use to tip a bit more than others and the boys knew this and catered to my needs a bit more and looked out for me.
    Last example, in LA once, I met a Japanese lad from Craig's List and he was not good at all. But, I still gave him more than he asked for. He said he hoped to see me again and I told him he was sexy but the sex was not good so it would be a pass for me. He said, you see me again, and I promise it will be amazing. I did and he was. I saw him weekly for the time I was in LA (over 6 months).
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    paulsf reacted to vinapu in Hasty reward - trip to Thailand and Malaysia in May of 2023   
    Final reflections
     Best thing about that trip was that it was entirely unplanned and unexpected. Last time I had such fast decision trip to Thailand was back in 2013 , also in May. I found it very energizing waking up in the morning to find out by midnight than in 2 days I’m flying to other end of world.
     That’s advantage of being retired as such feast would be hardly doable in normal 9-5 working conditions.
     Because luggage was free I was hauling more  goodies than usually when I travel just with carry on  and found it bit tiring considering my habit of changing hotels every 2-3 nights. Perhaps time to  try more permanent arrangement next time like changing place only once per trip.
     I’m happy I decided to return to butterflying giving every bar  a chance. I’m still warming toward Jupiter and after two visit this trip I’m more than half  way there. It used to be bar I did not like at all so it’s great improvement. Line up on my 1st visit this trip was truly impressive,  as I mentioned I like 100 % of what was on offer.
     My disappointment was unspoken so far in report. Last trip I spotted  some hunk in Thai Relax massage in soi 6 on my last day and he was not available. I hoped to see him this trip but he went home for good according to other boys from that venue.
    ST from Tawan was great find of this trip  shining both with personality and body. He probably realized that and was bit costly but I liked him very much thank you and only can hope he will be there next time. Along with Y from Moonlight and S from HotMale, all offed twice they were my trip heroes.
    Masseur N who extracted 5 sessions from me had best chance to be super star but spoiled it a bit by not reading me properly – I don’t like irrelevant or nosy messages like ‘how are you ?’ or “what you are doing now ?” he was bombarding me on Line even if I know there were well meaning and supposed to show he cares. It’s funny situation as I like guy a lot and his massage was by far the best I had in a few trips and in the room he performed as I liked plus plus,  I still had moments I was mad at him. And this is actually not funny.
    Overall Line is great tool to hook up and communicate with guys but sometimes I wonder if it’s really worth of trouble to give boys my Line because of such case of abuse so to speak. On another hand it was life saver when due to holiday bars were closed but I managed to utilize my contacts and pull it as best day of the whole trip.
     Tawan with Banana in second place continue to be most friendly bars as far as I see even if Tawan boys are trying to abuse my wallet but at least they do it good natured way and understand word NO without any grimaces .
     As for massage Jey Spa continues to be my post Covid massage central and both guys I had there were gold standard how session and masseur  should look like . Not for first time I noticed that with price service standard goes up which theoretically it’s how it’s supposed to be but we all know it’s far from reality.
     I was concerned I’m losing thing for Thai boys with few voluntary empty nights which almost never happened before,  but now , with cold head I see that perhaps it’s bit of natural. After overheating cool down time should come. If I don’t feel like having companion why should I torment myself with looking for one ?
     Two boys pissed me off , one by not showing and another one by asking for dink and leaving me promptly which was more painful due to fact we had common history with either one. My revenge was simply to skip off this trip and tell them why. At least one confirmed that he got the message.
    Prices are going up. I’m not taking vacations to save money as staying home does better job but had few sticker shocks – 1000 off fee at BoyzBoyZBoyz, 900 massage fee at Tawan, 6000 long time request from Tawan Boy( declined). I think time will come when some haggling will be in order.
    I praise myself for idea of breaking my trip by going to Kuala Lumpur and I’m eternally grateful to my local friend there for being my guide and companion.
     Finally heartfelt thank you to reader, Anddy, Jason 1975 and ChristianPFC for all those meals  and bar visits together.
     Due to family and my personal issues timing of my next trip is unknown but working on it. Brutal truth is , whatever plans I may make they may be ruined at the short notice. Ever optimist I hope for at least one more this year or early next one.
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    paulsf reacted to vinapu in Hasty reward - trip to Thailand and Malaysia in May of 2023   
    Day 17 , continued
      About 1 hr later ST Lined me he is about to arrive so I went down to the street level to see him arriving in style on motorsai smiling broadly. We decided to eat something , across the soi from hotel is small Thai eatery serving simple but tasty and cheap dishes so we feasted there for 160 for two oft drinks included.
     Then to the room where I made sure I was compensated for empty night and what is even more important ST made it even more sure I was happy. At one point when I complemented his built with sinister motive to allow me to take picture ( no I will not post it here nor will send it by PM ) of his well attended to body he said something I never heard before from guy  “ I take care about my body so you can enjoy it” , wow ! I enjoyed it indeed, more than expected . It was really great 3 hours.
    It did not come cheap but it was worth  every penny I gave him and  what I spent on him bit later. His shoes were quite worn off. Not sure it was staged or really he did not have anything better but when he noticed I noticed their shabby state he asked if I can buy him new pair. What a smart guy ! But as my godmother used to say “it’s better to lose something with smart than find something with stupid”.
    So plot or not , I agreed although placed silent limit of 2000 on such largesse.  We went to Silom Center as I told him my time is limited and in Central there were sport shoes on sale. After trying few pairs he settled on some Adidases  for 2160, I told him I can give only 2000 , he agreed to fork out that 160 extra which of course I reimbursed  him back as we were leaving mall. So I spend quite a bit on two session with ST  but on this trip I had few excellent encounters and both with him were ones I suspect I will remember well still in few years.
     Happy but still smarting after that failed night I had one more shining star in mind. But first things first, I returned to the room and packed as much as I could before returning to boy hunting. Since today is Thursday , schnitzel special at G’Bangkok it’s where I went. Lined reader about my plans and he  joined me on that Thailand’s last supper.
    Both Banana’s barkers welcomed me enthusiastically as always so I practiced my vinapu tuck on them shamelessly in front of their bar, told them I’m leaving tonight and one who I have some hots for whispered  me something which makes me wanting to return to Thailand  before end of this century or even this year , if only to check if it’s true.
    Then reader went his way and I marched to Hot Male hoping S will be there. He heard my voice talking to P the host and appeared in bar’s door .Action was fast, let’s go. I told him, 2 hrs only so no dinner but bough him something  to eat at 7/11 and he made sure  my last session of this sudden , unexpected and unplanned trip was as great as all our previous meetings.
    2000 baht later he left , I finished packing , freshen up for long trip home only to see it time to go because both shaving cream and tooth paste jut run out.
     At 11.30 I was on the street and taxi just showed up around the corner. 500 no meter he said. No , meter is 300 so I give you 400 said I . No,  450   said he. No 400 I insisted , Ok, ok said him and in few seconds I was on my way. At the Swampy I gave him that 450, still happy with such fruitful day.
     All went smooth and at 2.30 we rolled out of gate as scheduled
     I was wailing over wasted last night but I wondered if it was actually good idea to have  good night sleep before such long trek. I almost never sleep on the plane  but this time I did, at least 4 continuous hours out of 7 to Doha and probably it would be longer if they did not wake me up for breakfast which I did not want to eat anyways.
    Three hours there was enough to survey airport which I liked a lot , specially that park in the middle of terminal.
     


    On second leg I also slept few hours so when finally after 30 hours and 55 minutes from closing door at hotel I opened my own,  I was surprisingly fresh. Enough that I made post-trip laundry before retiring to own bed.
    Summary tomorrow and then I shut up
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    paulsf reacted to vinapu in Hasty reward - trip to Thailand and Malaysia in May of 2023   
    Day 16
     When we checked time in the morning it was already 9.30 am . Since I expected Christian PFC with taxi at 11 am I told N we are skipping breakfast, tipped him for his troubles , we freshened up showering together ,  he left and I start packing. Good thing those fruits I bought yesterday by TukCom, they made for very healthy and tasty  breakfast.
    Another advantage of Classrooms is that some items they charge for like toiletries including condoms and lube, minibar items like beer or cola carry little mark up  so if your guest will drink beer or water it will not ruin you . I had about 160 invoice for those I settled when leaving as both gentlemen were on the dot.
    We arrived in BKK very fast , at 1 pm I was already on reception at Furama Sathorn , another of my few favorite digs. This time I was not upgraded (last 2 times I was without even asking) but room was big and comfortable enough with kitchenette but no couch.
     Not having breakfast I was bit hungry so went to Charoen Krung soi 49 to have their pizza for the last time this trip. From there by bus to Silom and straight to soi 6 to have massage with N. It’s against advices saying massage first , food after but today it worked well. Great boy and great massage , if only he wouldn’t be so prolific sending Line messages with speed of machine gun.
    He had small complain saying I promised him 5 nights and we had only 3 so far which came out of blue. While I don’t mind 5 nights I wouldn’t  make such specific promise so nice try I thought.
     At 9 pm we arranged small gathering of forum members  present in Bangkok -  reader , anddy , Jason 1975 and me had dinner at G’Bangkok together and lively conversation subject of which you can easily guess. As I said before  I have hots for one of Banana barkers across and today it was sign that he started noticing it. Longest trip starts from the first step.
    Bit too late as tonight is my last night this trip and for some reason , never shy , somehow I’m shy approaching him. Even I laugh at myself thinking about that. I think it’s because I like him more for personality than physical attributes so it’s like bit different kind of attractiveness. Or may be because I saw him with girl few times and I’m afraid of failure. Anyways we had a bit of remote fun across the soi.
    Jason suggested we will help him to finish bottle he had opened in Jupiter another day so we decided to go there, only reader had another plans and it was our trio which went there.
     We  watched  all three boy parades, first in briefs , second in boxers and last one in jeans but with numbers  , invited few boys to seat with us. If was funny to see contrast, when they do their walkabout their faces are  frozen and disinterested but as soon as they seat  with us , all were friendly, behaving normally  and  somewhat clingy. One I invited even asked me to help him with drinks as Jason organized some card game with losers required to drink half shot. He seemed  even interested but for some reason I was not in the offing mood there. Anddy was even bit surprised I’m so reluctant but somehow I was.
     Left empty handed , I went to Hot Male but at that time their selection was very limited and none of guys appealed to me so I circled area once or twice, looked again at Banana barker busy inviting passerby’s to his bar and decided to call night off. Lonely , alone  and just me .
     Not for lack of choices as I’m sure I could get somebody at Tawan or  Moonlight or line one of few I  have contact with but somewhat I did not feel tonight like I want to . Honestly. Am I turning lesbian? Or straight ?   Ot bored with all that debaucheries? Or saturated with fun I had so far ? May be I’m coming there too often ? Or January  Cambodian fiasco still subconsciously lingers somewhere in my head and heart and from time to  time emerges ? Or am I losing it?
    Or perhaps getting bored and impatient with some of boys antics, chiefly nagging me ‘when I see you again ? ’ ‘can we have massage today ?’ No idea but those were questions going through my head when walking alone via completely darkened soi 5 , one where market is in day time and which comes across from Furama at other end. So it’s day 16 and night 16 but 5 of them in cold bed. Never before.  I used to have empty night once per 5 trips but is it true such world came to an end?
     Ok I made it sounding bit dramatic for better reading and perhaps even discussion but cold fact is : on my last night on the trip I’m sleeping alone and truth to be said I’m not really making much of it. It is what it is . And I slept well
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    Day 15
     It was cloudy this morning.  For breakfast I went to Kiss on 2nd road. As soon as I sat down, deluge started. It did not last long, long enough for me to finish breakfast and it stopped when I was paying the check. Then had stroll along Beach Rd people watching , another lazy day
    After bit of active night at noonish I felt sleepy so returned to the room and collapsed on the bed for  few hours waking at 3 and feeling hungry.
    I  made trek to Salt And Pepper behind the TukCom and had their chicken with cashew nuts, one of the best in industry. Returning to hotel I stock up on dragon  fruit and passion fruit , I love both , specially that dragon fruit was of red color , somewhat rarity in Thailand where white is more available.
    I lined N, masseur from Jomtien that I’m taking him tonight and to stay tuned around 10 pm. Agreed immediately which did not come as surprise as we have some chemistry . After dark I made another trek to Jomtien Complex , in @home bar I spotted another boy, twinky but otherwise very attractive so made sure he seats with me .
    Cambodian with good English so bit of conversation and indecent touches although I told him outright I have boy for tonight to which he counteroffered ‘ what about threesome?”.
     I warmed to idea and promised to ask N. After good hour I lined N I’m coming , tipped my boy well for his efforts and told him to stay tuned for next 10 minutes in case N agrees.
    He was waiting on the street in front of his shop , told me he paid off fee already  but dismissed suggestion of threesome saying he is shy. Too bad but I’m not one to force one guy on another.
    Songtaew was just handily passing by so we jumped and in few minutes we were already dining in metal tables on Second Rd. I was surprised how slow it was . in the past at that time like 10.30 pm  it was packed to the rafts, now only 3 tables including ours were occupied including one by two Orientals who looked and behaved like couple and very, very attractive couple at that, 5000 LT each quality.
    Admiration earned me gentle kick from N under the table. Perhaps I was too blunt.
     I had very tasty thick soup but it was kind of hot and it cost me heartburn at night of quite unpleasant kind, no other sensations though. I never been big on spicy food.
     Bill came quite substantial for just 2 dishes , perhaps secret of sparse crowd lies there. Chinese , Indians and Russians, majority of visitors now  may not be such free spenders like Western farangs.
    I wanted to see show at ABomb, offered N choice of not attending if he doesn’t want to as Classrooms is just above that bar but he tagged along.
    Only 4 spectators which was shame as show was quite good  and boys handsome. No special show but big cock show yes, oddly out of 6 participants only 3 went to allow inspection.
     Of course all three got my tips plus as always one most attractive boy from rotation and one show boy who clearly came only for the show and was leaving right away but not fast enough so I could stop him and forced vinapu tuck on him as well.
    If I stay longer he would be object of my advances tomorrow, that sure thing. Best legs I saw in quite a while and few inches below  the navel not exactly flat either.
    General impression from the visit was that ABomb is underrated. I liked their boys selection  better than Xboys and if you remove those I offed in the past , also better than BBB. Out of 5 boys on the stage 4 were offing material for me.
    But not tonight since I had my boy and knew already he is threesome averse.
     We climbed stairs and in room exercises were kind of very hot reunion. Known quality has own advantages, that was proven tonight. And if there’s chemistry , no wonder AC must be turned on full blast. A bit of unpleasant sensation from that hot soup cured with drinking cold tea I made in the evening before we started demolishing bed.
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    Day 13
     None of us was in rush but we went for breakfast downstairs (not included in rate, 240 but quite opulent ) and after that we returned to the room for some more intimacies. I don’t recall whose idea that was but not even necessarily mine. I was happy with him, he was happy with tip.
     We actually had some homework to do too as after  tattoo application yesterday  some of his skin peeled off leaving a lot of black ( from ink)  skin confetti. But we did good job. At 11 kissed Y good bye , packed , checked out and at noon Christian PFC arrived with  taxi driver he arranged and we went to Pattaya.
     I always thought taking taxi there is excessive spending but recently become keen on it. Yes it cost about 6 times more (1200 )  than taking bus (130+ BTS+ARL ) would but saves half time, like 2 hrs. When vacation time is short every hour counts. Bonus was we had more time to chat , even stopped at some  roadside restaurant for quite tasty and cheap lunch (255 for three , drinks included).
     In Pattaya they dropped me at Classrooms hotel. Along with Zing Resort and Copa my favorite in Pattaya. I tend to alternate my Pattaya stays between Jomtien and Boyztown.
     I extolled virtues of Classrooms before but I repeat , I like their spacious rooms and very discreet side entry bypassing not only reception but also bar downstairs. That’s hotel where both boy’s and girl’s lovers feel at home and won’t bother each other.
    Then went for a stroll along Beach Road only to get my heart bleeding because Alt Heidelberg, my favorite restaurant was gutted undergoing extensive renovation and I don’t have any hope it will be back in business. To get my fix of schnitzel I went to Das Berliner instead but while tasty , it’s not the same there.
    After dinner walk was to Walking Street which is back in business but now quite diversified. A lot of stores selling this or that, plenty restaurants and girl clubs here and there. It sadly looks that converting Pattaya to family destination already started , step by step, store by store. By 2117 process should be completed I guess and then punters  will be left with soi 6  and TreeTown bars.
    After I did tourist part , at 8 pm I parked myself at Castro with an eye for BBB, That’s my routine in Boyztown, always first evening that ritual. After a while, Lek, the mamasan spotted me and greeted with smile so I went to shake hands. He remembered I like Handsome Cambodian (HC) and surprised me telling me he is there. After I offed him in Feb I never heard from him , neither few of my friends who know him as well.  
     We were wondering what happened to him and I was happy to see he is back. Indeed , several minutes later he appeared on their porch but he  did not notice me so for now I left things as they are.
     About time for show to start I went inside and was surprised to find bar completely full. Full was also stage and it was very disappointing as all boys were completely dressed, t-shirt and jeans, no numbers and only 3 bare chested . I proudly noticed that all three are boys I offed in the past , in fact Art and HC quite a few times. All in all there were 6 familiar faces and they all recognized me smiling , HC being last one. He was as surprised as I was hour ago and when I motioned he joined me immediately. We have  a bit of history , good and bad but if I have weak spot for anybody it’s him.
    Sometimes I need it , like today when he gulped 3 rounds of beer (boy drink is 350, mine 400 ) without even asking me if I’m Ok with that.
     Of course I will be offing him but when came to paying bill I was surprised twice, first I was charged for  5 drinks but we consumed 4, second off fee turned out whopping 1000 baht , the same like models at Moonlight. That’s excessive greed. I refused  to pay for that extra drink so they reduced bill by 350, gnashed my teeth and paid the rest.
    I should mention show but it was more or less the same like always with BBoys being stars, they even dragged one girl from audience to funny number of simulated sex. She was performing admirably , lucky girl with all those hunks. A lot of screaming and noise  but this is when there are so many girls in audience.
     After show we went to the room , actually our first off was to the same hotel. Then he wanted me to go separately , now he did not mind to walk along. How times changed I reflected.
    I was happy, was he too? I guess so. Deep in the night there was that endearing moment when he really become very clingy and cuddled to me like finally he realized that if I like him , he should at least skillfully pretend he does like  me as well. It was quite nice and I must say romantic.
     
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    Day 12
    Very pleasant night but lacking fireworks and excessive sweat. This is what happened when both boy and I know each other well from multiple offs in the past. Novelty value is rubbing off a bit but on another hand there’s confidence that all will go well and no nasty surprises like 4 am request ‘ can I go home now, my motorsai parked wrong place ?”.
    Leisurely morning but we made it for breakfast. And I ate plenty to make up for hasty breakfast yesterday.
     Since check out time is 11 I packed my goodies, checked out , took tuk-tuk to my next dig , Le Siam on Convent one of my holy quadruple of hotels in Siam area I like to stay, Raya, Baan Silom and Furama Sathorn being other three.
    Room was already available which was good news as I could Line ST whose butt so impressed me yesterday in Tawan to show up at 2. Our agreement made earlier was I let him know when. That was whole hell of short time I must say. Not only he did his best to make sure I’m happy but also told me a lot about his life and passions and let me tell you , those were not boring stories. How stories by the naked hunk can even get boring?.
     No way this could be only short time so I suggested an extension of time  , he suggested   extension of tip and thus it was longest short time I ever had at 6 hrs. No way that after such time two men won’t get hungry and he suggested shabu at MBK. Not being fan of Japanese food I did not even know what shabu is but decided to try. Modestly he suggested we go by BTS.
    It was all you can eat  for 499 and certainly food they had was great for bodybuilder , all lean meat no fattening pastas etc. For me it was tastier than expected although as I say, not my type of food. Certainly at home the same would cost me 3 times more.  Walking back to the station he spotted sales in sport store eyeing some brand name exercise  shorts reduced 70%. In my eyes even reduced price was twice too much (520 ) but what do I know?
     So I said yes  but you should try first. So we crowded  into one booth for measurement and short moment of innocent fun. I gave him money there so he could pay himself , just a bit face saving exercise.
    What surprised me was how happy he was . Casually throwing 100 or 200 we forget that for a lot of those guys 500 is princely sum, specially to be spent on non-essentials like that so we returned to Silom  both happy, he with his acquisition and me seeing him happy.
    Today is religious holiday so no alcohol sales. Having a bit of time  I made tour of the area to see if bars are opened as theoretically they could as long as no alcohol was offered but it looked all bars decided to close , my guess was to avoid pesky boys in brown with palms outstretched.
      In soi 4 only Adam massage and G’Bangkok were opened , everything else was in dark. Very few diners at G'Bangkok though. The same in Patpong , all closed , Moonlight the same and so was Tawan but Dum who is also  motorsai driver was on his post on the corner so I gave him 100 baht to buy himself some meal.
    I was timing myself as my post-birthday festivities were not completed. I made sure at 10pm I’m in my room as I was expecting Y and indeed at 10 on the dot my phone chimed, it was Line message “I’m downstairs “ so I went to pick him up . But he was bit hungry so gave him 100 to buy something-on Convent there’s always some street food available. Soon after he showed up with some dish, gave me even change from that 100 and up we went for another super session today.
     Two guys today , both trying their best to make sure I’m happy. It did not come cheap but I like money well spent better than  cheap price tags and that was a case on that fabulous holiday day.
     
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    Day 9
     N sleeps in his shop. Because of that,  3 days a week  he is cleaning it before opening and after closing which I consider very fair. That was reason he could come only at 1 but I did not mind, we still had good , largely sleepless night. Left at 6  to take care about the shop so I returned to warmed bed  to get some sleep.
    At 9 marched to Foodland, heart bleeding becauseby 5 minutes  I missed  time when breakfast is whopping 10 baht cheaper, then to XOne to exchange money and to Silom market in soi 10 to buy charger as I left mine in hotel in Kuala Lumpur, one of senior moments I guess because I’m not exactly known  for  leaving my stuff behind.
    Silom market as market go is very modest affair but yet in my every hour of need , be it charger , coat hangers, baseball hat, undies, t-shirt , pen , day pack , you name it ,I go there and find what I need , usually for very little.
    I spotted one of Jupiter mamasans manning  one of the stands.
    In hotel no water again but power was so I made a coffee and then took BTS to Madrid for lunch with Christian PFC.  Always interesting chat over tasty pizza, we have our ritual and share whatever we ordered half / half with each other.
     We walked back , I was mindful that I have to meet  P from Hot Male at 3 to check stamp collection so made sure I’m there , in still empty soi on time. No sight of him , nor even answer to my Lines so at 3.30 I left empty handed. Reader reported that he will be drinking coffee at Coffee Grinder at 5 if I want to join so I used that occasion to complain, his answer was very reasonable P obviously is not in  a need of money. Good for P  thought I.
    Just before 5 I got message from him “ sorry I slept in”. Too late obviously as I had other designs this afternoon.
    Reader and I exchanged news while tasting their coffee and first and foremost admiring their cheerful and handsome staff. I even get bonus when boys were readying to leave at they close at 6 one of them changed  shirt to reveal torso worth 2750 baht short time in process.
    This trip I decided firmly to return to old butterflying days, did not work exactly as intended with few repats anyways but at least I tried and liked it. Today I scheduled last bar I did not visit yet- Dreamboys so around 9 went there.
      Several boys on the stage already , among them Fai, very good masseur  I know from Arena so called him for drink, shortly his brother Dit arrived to wing me from other side. But I was in no mood to hire from there.  What I saw was discouraging. Out of 3 rotation about 12 each so total 30-40 guys I’d remotely consider 3 and only # 11 looked truly attractive earning red not as I departed.
     A lot of veterans of soi Twilight which says something. Ggobkk who visited few day earlier had exactly the same impression but on another hand Jason 1975 who went there few days after me completely disagreed. So either I had bad luck or he had good one or there’s fundamental difference in taste. As I said somewhere else and tend to repeat constantly -  go and check for yourself , my throwaway may be your treasure and other way around.
     Tipped both brothers 200 for their time and old times sake  and decided to have another try at Moonlight I visited last week. With all bars covered time for 2nd round.
    I was hoping to see Y , who impressed me on my last night in Feb and yes , he was on the stage. No time was wasted to bring him over for a drink and before his was delivered , night’s fate was sealed.
    A,  the hunk spotted me as well so I invited him for drink too , if only to tell him that I did not like last week  when he abandoned me from another customer.
     This time he did not go anywhere  until his drink was finished . So I used that to try to wrestle him a bit which we always do  , he always wins but my ego is still boosted because I manage to resist for  a bit. He made suggestion we repeat Feb feast with Y and him together but I said that for me it’s twice expense for half fun so he gave up trying.  
    In models parade I noticed few new faces, Jack who appeared very nervous last week seems settled now but for now Mean seem to be my #1. I also noticed I’m warming up to Babe, perhaps because now he is not one to close parade as he always did , now he is one of many.
    I did not see Nut last time neither during parade today but at one point he showed up, came to say hallo, admitted casually he is late and way he was dressed made me suspect that he must be in good hands now. Very formal and elegant at the same time so I’m happy for him he found his girl or man, whoever. Another one not present was Nicky, neither last week nor today but time I was in love with him is long gone.
    I’m glad they are trying to refresh their models  stable  as old faces and bodies , while still attractive are becoming bit stale so new blood is needed. On another hand I must admit original set was of really outstanding quality,  real hunky hunks while never crew is somewhat mixed which is not necessarily wrong as not everybody likes that type.
     At one point I start getting itchy so tipped A and  marched with Y to hotel by the way of Unesco Heritage. Y turned endearingly modest when comes to food as Foodland was his idea and he chosen some ordinary dish like pad Thai. Not that modest when came to LT tip but absolutely and positively did his best to earn it. One of those few precious who feel immediately what and when customer wants. By far best night of this trip. I was so excited and happy that I almost pay dearly for all that fun but that’s the story for next installment .
     
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    Day 6
     While day was hot , night was quite agreeable and since my room is facing east I managed to sleep without air condition, feast I repeated all 3 nights there.
    I like cold but don’t like cold draft and no day is better to say that than today, day I’m putting this report together  as thanks to draft at work directly over my head I waked up at 4 am tonight with heavy cough and sneezing and whole day today,  Jun 18  I feel like it’s my last, only slight exaggeration.
    Fortunately  now is easing up a bit  and I hope that if will go away as suddenly  as it arrived.  There was no consolation to talk to my friend in Germany on her birthday today as  few days ago she was in the same situation thanks to AC in Malta . As you can imagine our conversation was consisting mainly coughs.
    Age has own privileges I guess.
    Back to Furama Bukit, I slept  till 7 am without any interruption which means day 6 was my first without jet lag trace. It used to be 3 days now we are at 5. Breakfast in hotel at 35 RM, about 270 baht, not  bad value. What made me distinguished was fact that I was only farang in full restaurant.
    I made bit of sociological observation, to my right and left were families of 4,mom , dad and 2 teenagers,  one looked Chinese other Indian although not necessarily they were from those countries.
     What made me notice was how tables were looking after they left. One was fairly neat , another one was exponential mess. Sometimes we wonder why some countries are marching ahead faster than others and I thought bit of answer was right there. Of course it was one go so I’d not make much of that but still eye poking contrast it was.
    I made stroll around Bukit Bintang in daylight, then heat got to me so returned to hotel to freshen up and them went by combination of monorel ( how  monorail is called there ) and metro to pride of Malaysia - Petronas Towers. I was awed right away, what an impressive structures !!!. Doesn’t matter their place on the list of tallest ones, 3 , 7 or 11 or whatever. In esthetics it beats them all in my not so humble opinion.
     My friend warned me that ticket to the top are restricted and indeed they were , specially that today was Sunday and on Monday viewing is closed. At 2 pm only 16 tickets were left for the day – they have excellent system showing what’s available  All for last two lifts , at 8.30 and 8.45.
    So it will be KL by night.
    Guy at register was not blind thanks God and before I asked told me I qualify for senior discount of 60RM instead full price about twice of that. Old is gold !  
    There was no line up but when I was leaving 5 minutes later , ticket  for  8.30 pm in the pocket , it was only 1 available for the last lift. I guess internet sales cleaned the rest.  
     Lined  my friend so we had dinner together in Bukit district. Tab reminded me we are in Muslim majority country and while food was tasty and cheap , Tiger beer was tasty and expensive. We agreed to try massages after my Petronas foray and parted ways for afternoon.
    I did some local sightseeing , decided to take hop-on hop off bus for full circle tomorrow. Found stop nr 1 close to Bulkit Bintang monorel station and did some walk here and there, just to taste Malaysia bit more. At dark I decided to go to towers and it was wise as they let us about 20 minutes earlier than scheduled.
    If during day towers look impressive and night they become just fairly tale, I should say fucking fairly tale but today is Sunday so I wont swear on holy day.
    First step was that bridge mid way. Because towers are swaying is not fixed but hold on some rails  facilitating movement. Then 86 floor, really impressive and not for faint hearted I guess. There were some people who were reluctant to come close to the windows  and I don’t blame them.
    I have fear of heights too but learned in my mountaineering years  how to deal with that. It’s bit simple, at first don’t look into chasm, whatever it is , look straight ahead .
    Lined my friend from the top I’m coming down and we mat in Bukit Bintang again, had some drinks and went to look for  massage. There are several shops , mostly mixed on the one street so it makes comparison shopping easy.  Of course some ladies of the night tried to get business but we professed to be shy or married and after full tour of street  went to shop my  friend recommended.
     Massage was good but guy was dressed although not shy enough so I managed to tough his rigid thing through the jeans but that was about it . No extras were offered and no wonder as all they had was just curtains   as dividers. Then I decided on pedicure since my feet are always disaster , whole thing lasted 2 hrs and I was charged 215 RM. Not being sure I should tip but went on side of caution and generosity and gave boy 100 RM extra.  Of course it was no comparison to Bangkok other than price , 315 RM is about 2400 baht but I was happy to see other , more secretive side of KL.
     It was pleasure to finally have normal night of sleep again.
     
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