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1 hour ago, spoon said:

And if anyone interested in a more animated version of this article,at least the beginning of it, go ahead and watch SOTUS series and SOTUS S. As a bonus, its A BL series as well set in college.

and Kongbop is sooooo yummy. I liked Sotus S better though, it seems that sequels in BL series are better than  first issues, 'Kiss' series is another example.

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It must be really difficult for a Thai to choose the right pronoum when he meets a person for the first time. Even in german, where there are only 2 choices, "du" (informal) and "Sie" (formal/respectful), there are situations where you have no clue which one to use and start constructing weird sentences to avoid those prononouns at all.

I am in the middle of watching "Sotus S" (interrupted by holiday) and was wondering if these "older welcome younger" - events are fiction or not, but obviously such things really exist. Thanks for the article!

I am also wandering if there is some reality in those US "student hazing" videos on the various porn sites, anyone knows?

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Hazing does exists, even in malaysia, and it happened more frequently in boarding high school but local university also hold one but in our case, only lasted a week. In Sotus, if the reality is similar in the stories, thai seems to have theirs much more elaborated complete with rituals and trips.

In malaysia, we also have two pronoun (several more for dialects) and its formal and informal. For first meeting with someone who isnt obvious of their status, formal is the default setting, so i assumed thats what the thai will do too, until the leaen more. I know in south korea, one of the few introductory question when u meet someone new is their age, so they can sstart addressing the other correctly.

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From Coconuts Bangkok 

How ‘salim’ went from Thai dessert to fashionable insult

You are salim!” the man hissed, with something between a sneer and smile. The target of this slander? An old schoolmate who, six years ago, was among those painting Thai flags on their cheeks and denouncing the democratically elected government to all their Instagram followers.

 

The schoolmate wasn’t the only one with military lineage and an I’m-important “Na Ayudhaya” tacked onto their name at the recent hi-so wedding. Like most of the 30-somethings there, he’s unhappy with how things have turned out six years after they helped engineer a coup by blowing whistles and “shutting down” Bangkok.

But he was also unhappy to be called “salim,” even in jest, a term which online and off has become the go-to insult: an ultraconservative/ultraroyalist. The term has been around for awhile but has become hot slander since molten rage erupted among those who’d pinned hope on a progressive political party disbanded two weeks ago
 

What is salim? Salim is a dessert made from mung bean noodles served in a bowl of coconut milk, syrup and crushed ice.

Importantly, salim comes in many colors, and its journey from sweet to sobriquet begins with the color-coded political fracture following the 2006 coup. For just over a decade, the populace was divided between Redshirts and Yellowshirts. Though they defy easy demographic shorthand, the Reds rallied behind ousted populist PM Thaksin Shinawatra and were generally more pro-democratic.

Continues at

https://coconuts.co/bangkok/features/explainer-how-salim-went-from-thai-dessert-to-fashionable-insult/

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