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2 hours ago, 12is12 said:

There’s another guy called Fransisco, who’s “Paco cafeteria’s unofficial gay tour guide”. There’s no contact info for him in the threads. He can be found at Paco’s, or you can leave him your number there to call you back. Apparently he doesn’t procure guys, but will take you to the “house”/brothel outside SD or to the prison (see below).

Slight correction: Francisco can’t really “take” you anywhere, as he doesn’t have a car. He will go with you in your own transportation (taxi, Uber, etc) or on public transportation (bus).

Most definitely Manny, and probably even Freddy, can drive you to Narcisso’s house out in the “country” (about an hour outside the city). 

 

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SolaceSoul, thanks for the correction.

I take it as a compliment that a top Gay-DR expert such as yourself found only one correction in my compilation.....   (-:

I guess you can't share any contact info for Freddy, Fransisco or any of the venues mentioned. OTOH, please do write something about the 2 questions I posed under "miscellaneous" (language barrier, overnight rate).

Thx 

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10 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

SolaceSoul, thanks for the correction.

I take it as a compliment that a top Gay-DR expert such as yourself found only one correction in my compilation.....   (-:

I guess you can't share any contact info for Freddy, Fransisco or any of the venues mentioned. OTOH, please do write something about the 2 questions I posed under "miscellaneous" (language barrier, overnight rate).

Thx 

As mentioned above, the email address for Freddy (alwaysreadyfreddy@hotmail.com) is already publicly listed at other DR blogs, so I think it’s appropriate to list that. Any phone numbers I have for him may or may not be private or may be outdated (I haven’t spoken to him in a very long time), and I have no permission to post them publicly, so out of respect for privacy and in an abundance of caution, I won’t post.

When I have more time, I will re-read your full OP to see if there is anything more I can contribute.

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Just to add another note to your guide, there is another pimp who has really good looking guys his name is Christian.  He can provide individual guys but also has parties at his apartment much like Narsisco but in SD.  If you would like his number lmk.  He is much younger than Manny or Freddy and has a different group of guys.  He can take you to Narsisco if you would like or provide anything else you would like for your trip.  All the pimps I’ve ever meet SD all have a great relationship with Narsisco he is like The Godfather of Dominican pimps. 

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In my experience, most Conde guys cost around 1000-1500 pesos, that’s for a quick session probably around an hour or an hour and a half at most.  Guys that work with pimps cost $2000-$3000 pesos.  I enjoy an overnight stay, so I make sure that the rate Is for overnight.  Otherwise, it’s 3 hours for that rate.  If it’s a busy boy, the pimp will be waiting for him at the agreed-upon time.  Christian has this one guy named Brandon who is beautiful, and in high demand, so his rate is 3500 for overnight, but that’s the most I’ve ever paid. 

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17 hours ago, 12is12 said:

Riobard, could you ask these "pimpos" if they wish their contact info to be shared? they should welcome free advertisments.....

I got or contributed all the contact info on posts submitted here on our message board. I don't have in my device currently, so you'll need to dig here. I am not trying to be coy.

But you"ll have to excuse my new 'gif' toy ... one of them can be found training at one of the many SmartFit branches. LOL.

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Freddy just informed me that it is okay to advertise his mobile number for business here, so I am posting it here. He says that he is still available for airport pickup/dropoff, driver services, tour guide (gay and non-gay) and yes, procurement of Dominican men, and that he has 30 years of experience.

My experience with him is that he seems to be more familiar with the twinks, but this is not his exclusive target demo. 

Freddy aka Always Ready Freddy.

(829) 801-0417 — phone / text or WhatsApp 

*NOTE: This is not an endorsement.

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On 8/30/2019 at 4:24 AM, 12is12 said:

Riobard, nothing came up.

Before summarizing, I read all DR posts from the last two years.

At least, I think I did.....

If you are referring to Melvin's gym, the info is in the thread "Dirty Dominican Deeds" around June 23-24. 

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I have not seen Freddy in years. I have to make a point of contacting him, if only for old time's sake, he was always a reasonably trustworthy guy. The first time I read that he had a "specialty" I was doubtful. These gentlemen are not dedicated organic farmers - they try to get what you want. They don't care as long as they get a tip and/or a cut for their services. I always used him as a driver he was reliably outside the gay bars ready to take you to the hotel or get you safely to and from the Penthouse in the good old "bad" days.

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On 8/26/2019 at 5:17 AM, 12is12 said:

Hi Guys,

I'm planning a visit to the DR. While reading thorugh threads of the past 2 years for tips, I decided to organize the info for the benefit of all newbies. Therefore, the info below isn't based on personal experience; it's the combined product of forum members who've been there and are generous with their knowledge: TennisAce, SolaceSoul, Kevie, Riobard, NoGagSuck, and others (apologies for omitting important names). In a future post I'll summarize tips regarding accommodation and other non-sex issues.

Anyone with any first-hand experience in the DR is VERY MUCH encouraged to offer comments, additions, updates and especially corrections. In CAPITAL LETTERS I inserted questions and requests, but please don't limit yourself to these points.

Thanks, and happy hunting.

(-: 

 

Manny (1 809 353 9262) offers tourism services (guide, driver etc.), including gay hook-ups FP. When requested, he sends photos of boys on Whatsapp 2-3 weeks in advance.

“Manny will bring the guy, and text you when he is outside. You go outside, pay him 1500 pesos, and the guy goes in with you. When you’re finished, you pay him 2000 pesos.” When there’s a 3some with 2 clients, the guy gets double. "Manny’s fee is per guy for first meeting. Afterwards, you can contact the guy directly."

TennisAce: “Manny is a man of many hats. I've known guys to hire Manny as their guide/bodyguard at gay clubs in Santo Domingo, because the person was too apprehensive about going out alone. Manny provides many services. Hit him up, he’s one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet.

“Manny tends toward the bigger muscle type guys. For twinks, your go-to guy is Freddy.” His email address is: alwaysreadyfreddy@hotmail.com , but he doesn’t respond. IF ANYONE HAS HIS CURRENT WHATSAPP NUMBER, PLEASE POST IT (AFTER ASKING HIS PERMISSION).

There’s another guy called Fransisco, who’s “Paco cafeteria’s unofficial gay tour guide”. There’s no contact info for him in the threads. He can be found at Paco’s, or you can leave him your number there to call you back. Apparently he doesn’t procure guys, but will take you to the “house”/brothel outside SD or to the prison (see below).

 

Apollo Spa:

ANYONE IN THE KNOW, PLEASE SHARE THE WHATSAPP NUMBER OF THIS PLACE.

“It’s somewhat an older crowd, lots of 40ish Dominicans but it ranges from 18-50ish. It’s just like any other sauna you would find in any city: you walk in, strip down to underwear and towels or birthday suit and towel.  Downstairs is a bar, showers and hot tub; upstairs is the sauna, video room and dark room. It’s also extremely hot, so stay hydrated.  Most of the action goes down upstairs. The two times I went I didn’t see a single bugarron, which was both a positive and negative.  Overall I definitely had fun and will go back for my next visit.”

IS THERE REALLY NO AC OR VENTILLATION IN ANY OF THE SPACES?!  

 

Juan Binbin massage place = sex house:

ANYONE IN THE KNOW, PLEASE SHARE THE WHATSAPP NUMBER OF THIS PLACE.

Calle Emillo Prud'Homme 26, “the bawdy place to be expected”. “For average and twinky; muscle, hunks or models – not there.”

NoGagSucker: “One horny night, I took an Uber to the Juan binbin sex house in a dicey area. I was greeted at the security gate by Juan and two sex workers, both youngish and sexy. We went upstairs to the welcome area and soon I was surrounded by 6-7 boys and they each took out their cocks, to stroke or shake their meat. All were under 30 and varying shade of Dominican black. I wasn't aware of any other client in the club and I was there around 10.30 pm on a Friday night.

I wasn't crazy about the rushed vibe but it was the operating standard. I sized up the most appealing cocks, found the uncut dick I most wanted in my mouth, and Juan sent the other boys away. He asked me to buy a beer, but I don't drink so he requested the $50 fee and the boy was soon leading me down a hallway to a small room.

We entered, he turned on the AC and took off his underwear as I strapped on my knee pads. This fella was soon hard and had an enormous rod that was too big for my throat, but I sure had a good time throating as many of his hard inches as I could. At just under an hour, it was a satisfying enough experience but I didn't go back.

I would have, but what with it being in a terrible and isolated neighborhood, a rushed atmosphere that was very unwelcoming especially in the context of how beautifully laid back the rest of the Santo Domingo was, and the general boredom of the dude I chose to blow; I wasn't the least bit interested in going back. Certainly happy to have checked it out!”

Others: Juan is open during the day, and is only an 8 minute walk from Paco’s in the very center of the old city. It’s no more “dicey” than anything else in Zona Colonial.” “What IS consistent about Juan Binbin is the selection of boys, which is never great. 

 

Narsisco’s House = brothel:    

ANYONE IN THE KNOW, PLEASE SHARE THE WHATSAPP NUMBER OF THIS PLACE.

“The house is in the small town of San Cristobal 45 minutes away, and it’s called Casa del Campo. Safety or other risks would NOT be an issue there, and you can easily get a driver to take you there, wait for you, and take you back.” Manny and Fransisco also offer this service. TennisAce reported the drive is interesting/beautiful, with Manny explaining the view.

“You would fall in love with that place, but all his boys do cost.  At one time it was 1500 pesos $30 per boy but now I hear it’s gone up to 2000 pesos $40. His finder’s fee is 2000 pesos if alone, and 1000 if a part of a group.” “Just let him know a day in advance so Narsisco can prepare the boys.” It’s a laid back place, where you can hang out in a welcoming atmosphere with other guests before-between-after sessions. “many BIG cocks!”   

 

Cine Lido – 342 Avenida Ramon Martin Mella:

It’s a typical old school adult theatre for sex shenanigans (one large screen playing porn in an old dark unsanitary theatre and a bathroom with bathroom smells), where local men carry on in dark spaces. Open all nights (contrary to the online ad stating it’s closed on weekends), and Sunday is the busiest.

NoGagSucker: “Made it to Cine Lido on Monday night and was advised it was a slow night. Over the course of 90 minutes about forty men passed through the place. Only 150 pesos or 3 bucks get in. One dude wanted payment and I firmly told him no. All action was in the seats or against the walls. Nothing went on in the brightly lit restroom.” NGS posted about many satisfying BJs there.

 

The Prison:

Kevie: “the prison is exactly as we said: a prison where a selection of guys are made available for you to have a conjugal visits with [for 1500 pesos].  The guards don’t watch. And yes it’s as safe as having sex in a prison can be. When you want to go just ask Fansisco about it and he will take you there.” All other experienced forum members cautioned against visiting there, with TennisAce citing Manny in length. If you go, make sure it’s with a group as big as possible. 

 

Boca Chica beach:

“There’s a crazy number of women offering up their goods, second only to Sosua on the northern coast. There are also beautiful Dominican men in little shorts and sometimes just wet underwear, but most are looking for women and they will assume you are too. The Colonial Zone is really the only “gay” area.” 

 

Miscellaneous:

Street hook-ups can be found on Calle El Conde throughout the day, and at Park Duarte starting at nightfall. – HOW DO YOU HOOK-UP WITHOUT SPEAKING SPANISH? IS GOOGLE TRANSLATE SO EFFECTIVE?? 

“Grindr boys are sending me cock photos; most are fine pieces of meat and the standard fee seems to be 40 bucks (2000 pesos) to suck them.”

“Most guys end up bottoming, as long as you are willing to pay 2500 pesos.”

At least some guys are glad to be contacted on the phone even in the wee small hours of the night.

“Hardly any of the guys speak English.”

“Anyone who hooks up or even has sex talk with ANYONE in the DR before verifying the age on their cedula (government issued ID) is begging for legal trouble [either from the authorities or from extortionists]. By law, all adult Dominican citizens must carry the cedula on their person.”

“With quality guys the standard overnight rate is 3000 pesos, about $60USD.” – THIS RATE DOESN’T MAKE SENSE, GIVEN THAT THE FEE FOR 60-90 MINUTES IS AROUND 2500 PESOS.....

TennisAce: “Guys, if you are looking for the ULTIMATE BOYFRIEND experience, find a guy in Santo Domingo and take him to the Hard Rock resort in Punta Cana. We paid about $2400US for the 4 of us for 2 days, but it was so worth it. We made it perfectly clear that because we were paying for transportation to and from Santo Domingo, for excursions at the resort and for their daily costs, we wouldn't be paying the usual fee for sex. They didn’t have a problem with it. They were both excited to go.

“The Dominicans I've met have been the most persistent in asking for money via email or messages [after we’d parted or I’d gone home], even when you say no 3 times.”

Thanks for creating this info. Will surely help the newbies and others find the men and sex they're looking for.

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On 8/26/2019 at 2:19 PM, 12is12 said:

SolaceSoul, thanks for the correction.

I take it as a compliment that a top Gay-DR expert such as yourself found only one correction in my compilation.....   (-:

I guess you can't share any contact info for Freddy, Fransisco or any of the venues mentioned. OTOH, please do write something about the 2 questions I posed under "miscellaneous" (language barrier, overnight rate).

Thx 

My hookup from Grindr was a total sweetie, laid back, took a shower before we got it on, happy to show off his inches on my camera as I sucked him, beautiful cock and tasty cum. He put me in touch with a pal with a fine dick and chunky body, but he wanted a hookup within the hour and bombarded me with pics and pleas for sex and money. Dozens of messages via Grindr and I finally blocked him. I would have been happy to pay and hookup with him the next day, as I was very satisfied from the first dude, but the second guy just didn't understand the meaning of 'not now'.

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I am still learning the ropes and trying not to hang myself or get tied up in knots by or over them, but my limited experience so far amounted to a much vaster price range compared to Brazil ... 2,000 at the minimum end for rather average but vetted street pickups not very exciting, through to 4Gish the most common setpoint nothing mindblowing yet, up to 8,500 for a very hard driven bargain incl finder's fee for a not widely available stripper dude one of the best bodies in my lifetime but less remarkable face and a bad eye infection (his). I have to say his physique and aubergine were perfect and worth it.  

My sense is that the type of guy I would want in future is up there close to the 10,000 mark ($200USD), far more expensive than the equivalent quality in Brazil, and a great paycheque for RD. Though I think it is likely that over long-stay fishing expeditions and ramping up the Spanish I could discover some remarkable repeatable gems for much less than 10,000. Or knock down higher prices for initially greedy tough-bargainers valuing repeats.

For now, I am getting impressed with some promising listings in Colombia. Let the Tropic of Cancer competition commence!

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4 hours ago, Riobard said:

I am still learning the ropes and trying not to hang myself or get tied up in knots by or over them, but my limited experience so far amounted to a much vaster price range compared to Brazil ... 2,000 at the minimum end for rather average but vetted street pickups not very exciting, through to 4Gish the most common setpoint nothing mindblowing yet, up to 8,500 for a very hard driven bargain incl finder's fee for a not widely available stripper dude one of the best bodies in my lifetime but less remarkable face and a bad eye infection (his). I have to say his physique and aubergine were perfect and worth it.  

My sense is that the type of guy I would want in future is up there close to the 10,000 mark ($200USD), far more expensive than the equivalent quality in Brazil, and a great paycheque for RD. Though I think it is likely that over long-stay fishing expeditions and ramping up the Spanish I could discover some remarkable repeatable gems for much less than 10,000. Or knock down higher prices for initially greedy tough-bargainers valuing repeats.

For now, I am getting impressed with some promising listings in Colombia. Let the Tropic of Cancer competition commence!

I know I'm starting a fight here and will not, under any circumstances reply, but these prices are wildly inflated. Just incredible do not believe this.

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1 hour ago, paborn said:

I know I'm starting a fight here and will not, under any circumstances reply, but these prices are wildly inflated. Just incredible do not believe this.

There is no argument or discussion. I described my experiences and you said essentially nothing, unless you think the more appropriate accurate entire range is a deflated 1000-4000DOP.

I can read. I know what other posters wrote before and following my visits. My Brazil experiences, in contrast, fairly closely match price descriptions on the forum. You can also pay top dollar there for niche providers. 

I myself was not surprised in RD after cross-comparing prices for accommodations, groceries, and things like orthodontic work such as Invisalign.

And I have cross-compared rates for trade for 33 years. 

I debated for months whether to contribute my realities because it is not of tremendous concern that virtual strangers get a bit of a surprise, and I knew what I offered could be heretical. However, I took the forum-sourced knowledge into what were sometimes labourious negotiations, did not rush, walked away from a number of bid passes where providers left good money on the table, relaxed and focused much on sightseeing, let my brain rule, and basically did what I thought were the right things. I accept and like some enacted dominance from providers, but cash slavery has not one single page in my playbook. 

I am very happy with my business skills in Brazil and Spain, as well as decades of strip club bargaining. 

One central problem in comparing experiences is the appropriate restrictions on sharing images. I cannot extrapolate from a pisser or sphincter what somebody looks like ... parenthetically, though, wonder why the hitched Mssrs Tennis-Ace pay for it. LOL

As I have described previously, and one SD broker also co-incidentally quoted to me: "Be real ... there are DOP2,000 guys; 5,000 guys, upscale physique/BB sponsor-seekers, and sugar-daddy-with-yacht golddiggers." Obviously, also inbetweeners.

Look, I don't get an excited diurnal emission over the idea of blowing a guy for the price of lunch. Sure, it's a bonus but not the main driver.  

It is a lot less expensive for relatively full service from a high-end guy in RD compared to my location or NYC. My problem in SD was less the high price range and more the lack of Grade A choice compared to Brazil, where as said previously, fitness model types do not have much of an edge in earnings.

There were certainly some stunners walking El Conde and thereabouts, look-not-touch non-prostitute eye-candy. In Brazil you can get all worked up in public, enter a spa brothel and get it out of your system with great-looking dudes. Believe me, I wish I could replicate something like that in Santo Domingo. And I truly wish I could enthusiastically sign off on the handful of glowing endorsements found here. 

Therefore, instead of incredulous criticising, how about some of you give me some solid tips on finding the guys I want, even if they seem to be inflated in price for whatever your particular values may be. I may as well be rhetorical perhaps with respect to the broader readership, but that actually sometimes happens behind the scenes on the forum without triggering accusatory critical appraisal of an attempt at honest relating of facts.

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