Popular Post ShivRoy Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 The place not mentioned often on this forum - but I've come back recently from two weeks in Buenos Aires. I want to come back already. I had a blast. This is my fourth time in Argentina, but my last visit was 9 or 10 years ago. I'd been to all the best places of this amazing country before, so this time I wanted just to have a chill city vacation in Buenos Aires, a city that I always considered one of the best in the world, and certainly the best in Latin America (for me). It's very different from the rest of Latin America, certainly different from Brazil. It does not feel Latin American, it feels more like a ramshackle Mediterranean European city instead - like Marseille or Genoa. It has that European cultured vibe, museums, theaters, leafy streets, public spaces, simply excellent food, and a great bar scene. It does not have that fire of Brazilian parties, no - it's more reserved and not that in-your-face fun, it's like a more refined sister of a loud brash half-drunk brother across the border. To put everything in the proper context from the very start: it is cheap. It is ridiculously cheap. It's cheaper than Cambodia. The economy went down the drain long ago, but the election of Milei propelled the inflation even further up. The local currency (black market rate) lost 20% just in the first three weeks of January. When I look up restaurants on Google Maps and see their menus photographed in November, I know that I need to double the prices for end-January (in pesos). Prices from a year ago do not mean anything, that was a different universe. I'm reading that just before covid, the taxi from the airport was 68 pesos, it is now 37,000 pesos (or 18,000 pesos on Uber) - you get the range. The wine is excellent - I was buying mine from a Chinese car service round the corner. They likely got the wine in stock in December before holidays and forgot to change prices - so I was buying wine from them in end-January for a price not seen anywhere else - $9 for a bottle with a Vivino rating 4.5 (normal malbecs are at around $2 per bottle). In an expensive Michelin restaurant, a huge 400g ribeye steak (dare I say the best steak in the world) and three negronis I accompanied it with rang me a bill of $20 total. In non-Michelin restaurants, steaks are between $5 and $8. In one of the top bars in the city mentioned in all sorts of awards and ratings, the happy hour sees two classic cocktails (I drink Negroni, but others may choose something else) for $3 (i.e. $1.50 each). Argentinian guys are not as defined or perfect as Brazilians - I'm a sucker for pectorals and abdominals, so I needed to dig hard. But thanks god for Venezuelans - they are plentiful in Buenos Aires, and they were more than half the guys I hired. Huge shout and huge thanks to @Latbear4blk who gave some incredibly useful advice on this forum. I was using local websites Soytuyo, Leonos, ArgentinaMasajes and Skokka to arrange all dates. The #1 piece of advice from @Latbear4blk was to check those profiles against the reviews on a local forum ForoPirata - that forum is gold, and I managed to save myself a lot of time (and trouble) by discarding quite a number of profiles who looked excellent on websites but got scathing reviews from previous customers on ForoPirata. If only such resources were available in other countries... I usually got two guys per day - one for "massage" and one for full sex. ArgentinaMasajes is an excellent resource, and I was very upfront with masseurs asking them direct questions on Whatsapp about what's possible on their side and what's not. Some were more modest and I wished them luck. Others entertained handjobs or fetishes, more daring ones were fine with BJs and cumming in my mouth, and the best allowed full-on sex. Mostly, I visited them in their places (after checking against references). This worked really well. Some, I invited to my place - and BA is a city where you can get excellent AirBnbs - mine was with a sweeping view from the 21st-floor balcony over the city, a rooftop gym on the 31st floor with panoramic windows, a swimming pool and a sundeck, and security that was ambivalent to visitors (the security guy just on one occasion recorded an ID of one of my guests who looked especially brutal, but on other occasions I met my guests downstairs at the security fence and then escorted them out afterwards bidding farewell without even talking to security- in most BA apartment blocks a guest would not be able to leave the building by himself without you escorting him out). "Massages" and other visits with full sex were all in $15-25 range, some slipping to $30, but never higher. (I got a local SIM card and conversed in Spanish over Whatsapp from a local number to make sure I'm not quoted crazy prices). One of my regulars was a well-known porn star - he's one of that Onlyfans cluster of Argentinian porn stars who have individual accounts and cross-pollinate bareback between each other with endless collabs. Well, I knew his name before, and his vids are everywhere (I'll omit the name). He was coming to my place for great sex for $25 ($20 rate + $5 Uber fare) and even spoke some English. I love Argentina. But as I said, it was mostly Venezuelans. If not for them, my picture would have not been this bright, but Venezuelans are muscular, defined, tattooed, insatiable, with a beautiful face and lots of kinky thoughts (and actions). One of the Venezuelans, I was coming to him every several days in the morning for a "massage" with some kinks and fetishes, and every time while I waited for him to come downstairs and open me the door, I saw the same beautiful girl coming out with two dogs, and one of them was usually immediately having a piss in front of me. When I saw her a second time, I thought it's such a coincidence, I'm at a different time than before but her dog-walking schedule matched. When I saw her again next time for the third time, it finally clicked for me that this was a GF of my "masseur" and their two dogs - she had to leave the apartment to walk the dogs for an hour so her guy would do various things with me disguised as a massage. Next time I saw her, I almost said hi. The guy was usually coming to let me in a minute after her leaving. With all that, I didn't go to any saunas - and as far as I know, there are no Brazil-style GP saunas anyway, they are normal non-escort saunas. I went once to Cine Ideal, an old grand cinema showing gay porn now in huge cinema halls with balconies - the entrance was something like $1 or $2, the cinema halls were pitch dark, and I probably could find someone and something there, but I saw little upside if I can have a $15-20 Venezuelan in proper comfort and lighting elsewhere. A couple of blocks from the cinema, there is another curious establishment - called MasajeClub. It's a business of massage coupled with a red wine bar. Apparently it's popular with locals at lunchtime and after work - the downside is that you can't select a masseur, he's assigned to you. The masseurs are your guys next door, not model-like, but they can go a looong way during the massage. The official line of this club is that you pay for massage ($4.50 one hour) and then whatever happens in the room is up to a masseur and you. There's nothing that the masseur is obliged to perform apart from the massage, but it usually involved sucking and even in some cases fucking. There are no minimum tips, so it is up to you if you want to leave anything to your masseur on top of $4.50. For something like $15 they have what they call a "circuit" - that's a 4-stage massage where four masseurs (again you can't pick) come to your room one after another to perform something like 20-25 min of massage - that may end up in four waves of different cum-shooting experiences. One or two of the four would usually not be averse to fucking. After that, they give you a glass of malbec. I've also been to the stripper bars. I remember there had been quite a few in my past visits, now only one remains, and it stages nightly shows rotating through three different locations in the city depending on the day of the week. Usually, it's three hunky straight strippers (usually coming in a bundle "one stunning, one ok, and one ugly") doing two routines - first stripping to a flaccid cock, and then the second one with a hardon. Then they come to the audience, and for a modest tip you can grab and fondle a hardon. I saw people leaving tips accounting for $0.1 or $0.2, so when I tipped $0.8, that gave me a really good grip of the cock and then a strong hug from a naked hard hunk and then a big thank you and usually a return trip from him to me for another $0.8. Big whisky cola is $2, beer is pretty much spare change. The show lasts for an hour and starts at 01:30. And then there are normal bars and clubs - again this is not the Brazilian level of eye candy, but it is still sexy in its own way. I really want to come back, this is such an underrated city to visit. babybear2, vinapu, caeron and 9 others 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Latbear4blk Posted February 15 Members Share Posted February 15 God save Venezuelans! ShivRoy and floridarob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Tip of the 🧢 for a very entertaining and descriptive account. Only been there once but unfortunately the Venezuelans were not in abundance that far back. The great wine and steak prices were, however. Latbear4blk and ShivRoy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Argentina was never on my radar until......Venezuelans 😁 Latbear4blk and ShivRoy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tm_nyc Posted February 15 Members Share Posted February 15 13 hours ago, ShivRoy said: It's a business of massage coupled with a red wine bar. Wow, a massage shop & a wine bar. That is very creative marketing! Thanks for posting the very interesting & detailed report. ShivRoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithambrose Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, tm_nyc said: Wow, a massage shop & a wine bar. That is very creative marketing! Thanks for posting the very interesting & detailed report. Absolutely! Interesting, if not surprising, that inflation continues to roar away under the new President! tm_nyc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babybear2 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 excellent report Is BA safer than SP, Rio for tourists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShivRoy Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 16 hours ago, babybear2 said: excellent report Is BA safer than SP, Rio for tourists? Much much safer. I was initially apprehensive and prepared, like I would be in any Latin American city. But then a few days later I relaxed. Incidents could happen, and you need to be aware of surroundings, but I was walking in the night between bars, restaurants and clubs in Recoleta and Palermo without a problem - something I would never do in Brazil. It's not super-safe as say Prague or Hanoi - but it's reasonably safe, compare it to Marseille or Genoa, i.e. somewhat edgy southern European cities with some bad areas, I think that would be a fair comparison in terms of safety. So I'd say yes BA is much safer than Rio or SP floridarob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Latbear4blk Posted February 16 Members Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, ShivRoy said: Much much safer. I was initially apprehensive and prepared, like I would be in any Latin American city. But then a few days later I relaxed. Incidents could happen, and you need to be aware of surroundings, but I was walking in the night between bars, restaurants and clubs in Recoleta and Palermo without a problem - something I would never do in Brazil. It's not super-safe as say Prague or Hanoi - but it's reasonably safe, compare it to Marseille or Genoa, i.e. somewhat edgy southern European cities with some bad areas, I think that would be a fair comparison in terms of safety. So I'd say yes BA is much safer than Rio or SP Watch out there. Anyone should be very aware of your surroundings in Baires, safety levels vary depending on the neighborhood. For instance, I would not walk alone at night in the "City", the financial hood. I would not walk with a backpack or a bag on a position easy to be taken from you anywhere, not even in tourists tailored areas. And of course, all the standard precautions should be in place (do not wear expensive jewelry, watch, camera, etc). I am glad you have an amazing experience in Buenos Aires, but as someone who lives for decades in the city, I do not think the differences on security with Brazilian cities are so significant. Yes, it is slightly safer IF YOU STAY IN THE SAFER AREAS. hurstwickham, floridarob and ShivRoy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I'm going to BA for a few days in July, with a friend from Rio. So looking forward to what delights it will offer. Venezuelan guys certainly weren't in abundance when I last visited, so will be a wonderful addition 😀. Also love the Wine so interested in the Massage/Wine place you mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikba2515 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Venezuelan are respectful, reliable, accurate on their description and services offer. I love their big strong legs and delicious ass. Once you got to know them, sharing a glass of vino, conversation and some food, it made a huge different. The sex become more personal, passion and intense. Sadly, number of the guys I knew over the years had already moved to EU and some still in contact. Now, Lima Peru is the place to meet young and beautiful Venezuelan for a reasonable cost. I had a blast last year....... floridarob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, nikba2515 said: Now, Lima Peru is the place to meet young and beautiful Venezuelan for a reasonable cost I like Lima, except for the traffic.....Airbnb's can be hit/miss especially with street noise or someone fixing something in the building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Latbear4blk Posted February 19 Members Share Posted February 19 9 hours ago, floridarob said: I like Lima, except for the traffic.....Airbnb's can be hit/miss especially with street noise or someone fixing something in the building. How many times have you stayed in an airbnb in Lima? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikba2515 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I normally stay in Barranco area, just 20 walk to Kennedy Park In Miraflores. The road along the coast is actually nice and never have issue with traffic… beautiful trails and garden along the ocean. There are plenty of Airbnb available. floridarob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/19/2024 at 7:52 AM, Latbear4blk said: How many times have you stayed in an airbnb in Lima? 6 ...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Latbear4blk Posted February 20 Members Share Posted February 20 7 hours ago, floridarob said: 6 ...? Oh wow. You shut my mouth up. 😇 floridarob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
