Travellerdave

That's right Vinapu. Sometimes I visit a gogo say between 8.30 and 10.00. I see a boy I like and buy drinks for him with a view to having him in my bed LT. However when staying in BT it's no good going to the room before about 12.30 and it's boring for me and the boy to accompany one another until then. In those circumstances I pay the off fee and tell the boy and mamasan I will be back later. The boy can earn tips and the bar can attract more custom.

Reflecting on the above statistic I have to reflect on how lucky I was not to find myself HIV+ having fucked perhaps 20 to 30 money boys during my first couple of visits to Pattaya in 2002 and 2003 bareback. I wonder why I was so reckless but I know that in my life I have shown lack of judgement at critical times and being in the sexual charged Thai gay environment is conducive to making bad decisions not just sexual ones. Nowadays my head rules my cock thankfully. I go for an HIV check during my trips and an always nervous waiting for the result and am really relieved when it's negative. I am wary if I have a small wound in the mouth area and desist from sucking cock until it clears up.

During my first few trips to Pattaya in 2002 and 2003 I hardly used condoms despite being very active sexually (100% top) when offing from BT and Sunee bars. I Subsequently realised I had been skating on very thin ice but I got away with it both from an HIV prospective and from other sexual deseases. I only recall one boy insisting on a condom. Since then I have always used condoms for anal sex but not for oral, despite many boys being willing to dispense with them. I'm now mostly bottom and I believe there is a greater risk from unprotected sex than it is the case for tops. My experience with saunas in Thailand is confined to Babylon and Sansuck where I have not indulged in unprotected anal sex or witnessed it.

I also visited Chang Mai a couple of years ago. I got there paying very little for the air ticket. I was not impressed with the gay nightlife having spent 90% of my visits over the last 17 years in Pattaya. I only managed a short time with a boy from GR. However I did do a trek into the hills which was good fun although at the time the area was enveloped in a smokey atmosphere from forest fires. I cut my visit short and returned to Pats for its bars and boys.

Bamboo bar has boys available for massage and they get going early for this.

I stayed in the Jomtien Complex during most of my 2.5 week February trip and can agree with most of the good advice in this thread. In particular you should have no difficulty in finding boys fitting your specification there. The gay bars are in a compact area and during a stroll around you should spot one which would suit you. Boys are more keen for a long time "off" later in the evening. It is also pleasant to converse with other gay tourists from different parts of the world. Boystown is approximately 2 miles from the complex but is easy to travel between the two using pickup-truck type taxis and motor bike ones. There you will find gogo bars where the boys dance on stage. Until recently they wore very little but I understand there has been a clamp down so the amount of skin on show now is limited. Cupidol is the one most quoted as being the best gogo for twinks but it's constantly changing situation. Most boys will accompany you back from BT to your hotel in the Complex. Jomtien has a gay beach a short walk from the Complex. In the past there used to be a good number of boys there looking for business, but this scene has somewhat faded away, but occasionally in the late afternoon you see a cutie wearing tight revealing speedos, looking for a friend. Between Jomtien and Boystown is a gay sauna called Samsuck. Could be worth a visit !. As you have found, boys are available 24/7 on GR. I found some Pattaya based boys had difficulty getting to the Complex and did not know the location of the hotels and with their limited English it can prove difficult to direct them, but hotel staff can usually assist. Enjoy your trip ! I did !

No recent experience I'm afraid with well endowed boys so I cannot answer your question Vinapu. I was a popper users during my first few visits to Pattaya during 2002-2004 and have memories of several big cock Isaan Boys when sniffing helped.

If you are just in Thailand for a few weeks holiday there would not be the need to buy there, as it's very easy to take a supply. If you were worried about a customs check the liquid could be transferred into an anonymous container like after shave. Poppers can increase the pleasure and reduce the pain when being topped, especially when the boy has a very large cock or is rough.

A few years ago you could buy them on Dongtan Gay Beach. The guy used to walk around with the bottle resting in the palm of his hand, flashing it at any likely purchaser. Not seen him for a long time - perhaps he's in jail. I once bought but I cannot remember the price.

You should have no difficulty in finding twinks in Pattaya and I didn't during my January/February trip. Cupidol in Boystown had a reputation for twinks but I thought the standard had declined from my previous visits. I think you just have to circulate and visit a few bars and in addition try Romeo online. My favourite area was the Jomtien Complex.

In February I made a late night transfer from BKk to the Poseidon in Jomtien Complex. I just went down one floor from arrivals to departures and was on my way in a taxi within a few minutes. The journey was fast in the early hours around 1.5 hours, so the bars in the Complex were still open with plenty of boys still available.

Looking back to my first visits to Pattaya starting in 2001 I would say there has been a gradual change in the attitude of money boys. This thread focuses on tactics to prevent them from making an early exit from our bed having been engaged for a LT. I recall that in those days the difficulty was getting them to leave in the morning. They often tried to stake a claim by leaving clothes and in particular a tooth brush which staked a claim. To have a daddy was the objective. Thais I believe we're much poorer than now so young ones flocked to Pattaya from Isaan where money was available from farangs to increase their standard of living hugely. Now they have other options to achieve this and if they enter the commercial sex industry they try to engage on their terms rather than ours.

Nice compendium jfarmer017 . He's certainly one of the most attractive boys on GR although he does not logon as frequently as a couple of years ago, when he joined me long time at the Ambiance following a GR contact. that picture of him in the red briefs is certainly top sexy.

Definitely Vinapu. 5000 is the maximum of cash I take with me for an evening out plus one of my cards in reserve. Stupid farangs walking about wearing gold chains are asking for trouble with the motor bike snatch squads. Mind you I thought about displaying a very heavy fake gold chain, I bought in Spain, with a weak clasp to play a joke on them, walking about near the edge of the road and getting mugged. Didn't do it thankfully. Probably would have got myself in trouble.

I prefer long time because I enjoy sex a lot in the early morning. typically in Pattaya I off a boy round about midnight and before sleep prefer kissing, rimming, and nipple play to anal. I tend to wake up early, say 5 am, often needing a piss. At that time I am invariably horny and love to wake the boy prior to topping him. a condom is a must which often was not the case when I first discovered Pattaya 15 years ago. With this routine I tell the boy that I want long time but that he will be able to leave about 6 or 6.30 am. This they seem to like and agree to it. I'm into keep fit and a jog along the sea at 7 am at either Jomtien or Pattaya is the second pleasurable experience of the day for me. For a nice twink 2000 would be my standard tip. A nap in the early evening gets me up to 8 hours sleep.

Although my memory is a little hazy I think my off was number 11. I can't remember his name (so many boys -so little time !) but I recall that he was 19 and I enjoyed being topped by him.

The Winner Boy Bar has certainly breaved life into Sunee Plaza and shows that the spiral of decline can be reversed. I spent most of my recent trip in the Jomtien Complex where I found plenty of twinks to stimulate me particularly in my hotel bed. Early in the evening they are just intent in getting custom for their bars but later after midnight the need for a off takes over. However after my first week I did make treks to BT and Sunee and at the latter I enjoyed visits to Winner Boys. As shown in the picture there are a twinky boys there and I offed one on successive nights returning to Jomtien by motor bike. I was also impressed by the relatively low price of the drinks and the off fee. The brown boy in the middle with no braces is really cute.

I suppose swimming might be good therapy, but this would not require a very large pool. I have assumed that Olympic size is 50 metres in length. As far as I know there are none of these in Pattaya and maybe none in the whole of Thailand. In Pattaya there are good size pools at the Tony Gym on Second Road and on the roof of the Mike Department Store, which you can use on payment of a small charge.

I once went to Khao Takiap during my only visit to Hua Hin. The monkeys were very aggressive and would jump all over visitors in search of food which is not very pleasant. Back in Pattaya I remember a colony of them on one of the Koh Larn beaches. You would think that in view of the number of gays in Pattaya there would be more bathhouses, but i suppose it's easier to find sex partners by paying boys from the numerous bars and gogos. For me a visit to Samsuck adds spice to my holiday experience even though sometimes I leave having only had a feel of a couple of cocks in the maze. Chatting to other guys from across the world can be pleasant as usually I'm in Pattaya on my own.

Yes the action at the Samsuck does vary from night to night and from month to month. It's surprising that the place is not better known by gays who visit Pattaya. I've talked to several farang sex tourists who were unaware of its existence. I suppose that's partly due to its location half way from Pattaya to Jomtien down a long side Soi at a distance from the other venues BT Sunee and the Complex. I've stayed in the guesthouse a couple of times. The rooms are good and quiet but of course not convenient when you have offed boys from the bars.

Tips following an off are a big part of a boys potential earnings and this will very greatly. Attractive twinky boys can be offed most nights and gays like me sometimes go early to bars like Cupidol to secure their services. However there are other incomes such as tips for sitting with bar customers and a minority can receive remittances from farangs with whom they have had a relationship. I did this eight years ago when I stayed in Pattaya for 10 weeks and had a boy staying with me in an apartment for 5 weeks at the end and planned to return shortly afterwards. He said he would remain at his Isaan home on my sending him money via Western Union, which I did in the shape of two 15000 baht payments. He probably stayed in Pats working in the bars and I wasn't able to get back for over a year so the relationship lapsed. Ridiculous really as he was 20 and I was considerably older. But my point is that I wonder how many boys have daddy's like I was.

At the Samsuck they provide a small sachet of lube and a condom in your locker. These I place in my speedos or thong which I wear rather than walk about with the towel round my waist. Unfortunately with all the touching and feeling which occurs upstairs in the dark rooms both or one of the items can go missing, which is a problem when I get into a cubicle with someone. These days I won't fuck bareback, so if he his without them also, the action is confided to oral etc.

A daddy does not necessarily mean a mug. In Thai gay circles I thought it catorises an older guy with a younger boyfriend. Many money boys in are looking for a farang daddy rather than working in the bars and gogo's. I've been a daddy several times.

Whilst I don't usually bother with massages, instead like boys long time in my bed I have in the past had good experiences at the QM (Question Mark). They have massage rooms assessed I recall via one with a table tennis table !. When I stayed in Pattaya I sometimes had a massage there after an afternoon on Dongtan Beach, where the sea air turns me horny. I would walk through the Complex en route to catch a baht bus at about 6pm, but if a boy took my eye at the QM I would enquire about a massage whilst having a coffee. Two years ago I had one on three consecutive days when boy gave me a great experiences. He was a skilfull top.

I've just spent three weeks in Pattaya and enjoyed a number of twinks, sourced from bars and planet Romeo. The bar scene in the Jomtien Complex should not be neglected, where there are twinks to be had a plenty in the open bars. The scene comes alive at about 8 pm when you can select a seat and perhaps invite a boy to sit with you to assess his potential. However this usually means staying in the Complex, and this option is explored elsewhere on the forum. Romeo usually has a few femboys available and cheap membership allows filtering to meet this criteria.