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I feel sorry for those planning trip there in near future

are you telling us you are not interested in bar being re-opened ?

YES

and we are glad we will be getting new updates from you

but we are deprived pleasure of sitting in the bar and watching the racy show while discreetly surveying the goods

Bangkok / Pattaya discussion is similar to twink/ hunks one or bars/ apps for that matter. Can be discussed to no end and no solution with supporters of either way trading arguments to no end. My personal solution is to spend most of time in Bangkok but make 2-7 days jump to Pattaya obligatory, usually in the middle of trip but for next time, whenever it will be I sternly ordered myself to try new approach - start in Pattaya and finish in Bangkok. As always my old advice ' go and try for yourself " stays as it's best way to build up a plausible opinion. I'm still grateful to our member who when I posted my not so thrilling impression of Pattaya after first jump there commented ' give Pattaya a chance'.

I detect certain shortage of adventurous spirit although it took me 8 or 9 trips to Thailand before I ventured there.

and with other guys as he said

British started it so world followed I guess ................. and universal health care too

beautiful poetry

this too

both

accurate or not which can be disputed to no end it's very informative , free of cheap propaganda and easy to watch. Thank you for finding it for us and posting here

neither do I but still consider doing it as those 20 minutes may be better spent clinging to the boy than baht bus railing. I mean it

sounds like one of my Tawan boys

only in countries and houses where kitchens are big enough I guess.

market rates vary and so do prices , rents etc. One doesn't need to travel far to see differences. 800 baht " massage" tip in soi 6 would be considered cheap, travel 20 minutes to Saphan Kwai and this is exactly what many 'therapists" are quoting

+1

from Grindr or Romeo ?

It's irrelevant. Many rules or indeed laws are illogical or outright silly from somebody's point of view and what is just occurrence here, may be capital offence there ( try to change religion in Saudi Arabia or have sex with guy in Uganda). But rules are rules and we have choice to adhere to them or avoid situation when it may cause problems for us or our hosts or both. This comes from guy who was once ticketed for crossing on red light at 6.30 in the morning on Sunday with no car in sight and none, other than cop's hidden in the parking nearby, appeared till whole ticketing procedure was completed. When I protested exactly as you said above answer was predictable ' rules are rules'.

not that it's not true but I wonder how do you know? When we were neighbors in Quarter Silom and you pay visit to my room I can't recall any undressing part and it was before my first goin of thee day Truth to be told I don't insist on guest taking off everything, quite opposite , I rather remove their clothes myself. After all it's me who invited them so need to be nice to my guests, no?

I have solution I came to few years ago by chance - by putting wrong date on reservation I found myself in possession of rooms in Zing resort and Copa for the same night, both non-refundable. Then moment of enlightenment came , isn't it great to have option depending on where I find suitable negotiator for border delineation between France and Netherlands ? so in short, if one can afford, rent for 1-3 nights cheapest rooms in both Ambiance or Copa AND Zing Resort or The Venue and you don't need to worry when you finish the night. 7/11 to buy tooth brush and Colgate are close by here and there. For 60 $ you may have freedom of choice and save money on night transport between two and as a bonus you can get extra drunk knowing bed is steps away. I did it two or there more times already and plan to do again whenever I'll be in Pattaya 2-3 days. For more than that easy 2 night here -2 night there is better solution.

+1 there's always somebody at the front desk at Copa and yes , they do check id of your visitors with humble exception of guests of undersigned for two reasons - I'm regular at Copa and my guest rarely can be suspected of having new driver license. thank you very much but I wouldn't put much in store about my hotel and restaurant opinions . That's general, when comes to Pattaya yes, Copa, Zing Resort and Classrooms are my favorites in equal measure and I usually alternate between them. Copa's Executive rooms are big and feel like an apartment, great value for money. Attention newbies , Zing Resort is in thick of the action but in quiet corner of Jomtien Complex. Don't mix it with ZING HOTEL which is on the main road , half way between Pattaya and Jomtien. Nothing wrong with that hotel , just bit further from the action also with excellent transport links either way.

and right by the Saphan Kwai station are G'beat on the left and KMan on the right.

reader , I reposted your valuable answer here because originally it looked as part of Dradens question. Hope you don't mind Sort by "LATEST ATTENDANCE" and those who have made themselves available to work should pop first, followed by those who have last done so in descending order. Those who appear toward end of list may have stopped working. Shop has culled some who no longer answer calls or just moved on. I've had best success by choosing guys on first 7-10 pages search results. When messaging a parlor, is it customary to do it in English or should I message them using a translation app? Suggest you translate first with guy's number, time you plan to arrive and massage duration time. As Stijntje says above, do this at least a few hours before on the same day. Bear in mind that many of these same guys also work for KK Massage down the road.