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that disadvantage of working in shops without minimum tips as boy's interests are not that well protected. Since boys are still sticking there, my guess will be somehow it evens up in longer terms. We know some customers sometimes can be unreasonably generous. Hopefully manager took boy's side which here I'd not be so sure. When I was working, company usually sided with customer even if complains were unreasonable.

to put it into perspective, one of boys I offed last week told me told me he lives with 6 other boys in highrise near Silom Market , sleeps on the floor and his share of rent is 2300/ month.

of course , being such sophisticated writer, lol

thank you. It's not that Jupiter was unhappy place although I had my measure of bad luck there , specially at old location , where moonlight is now. After that I wizened up and simply stopped offing from there , visiting usually one a trip , on first night to get it over with. Only when one of their guys explained to me that disinterested look is management mandated as it is us who are supposed to chase guys there I got it and noticed that when sitting with customers or met by chance on the street guys are normally friendly. Anyways now it looks that slowly but surely will become a fan and by July 2029 it should become my most favorite bar if all goes well. Looks wise their guys can't be beaten, even not by Moonlight models.

no, it looks that some bars start emptying after midnight, certainly around 1 am you can start hunting as it was shortly after that time when I saw those guys

don't we all ? As for Nicky there was time I'd agree with you but later doctor found a pill that cured it, lol

make it 10 if not 12 . I'm not fan of spending money on accommodation , prefer splurge on boys instead

beauty is in the eyes of beholder

Day 6 We often have discussion here about gay vs straight escorts and I ‘m of firm opinion that straight ones are trying harder because they know they need to perform in order to stay in business. After last night I feel vindicated. Married and father of toddler and still making sure customer is 100 % happy. I upped his tip by a 1000, invited him for a breakfast even if it was almost noon and we settled on afternoon visit to Maha Nakhom tomorrow followed by perusing stamp collection again. Next few hours I took it easy in the room and in the afternoon I went to Saphan Kwai to try one of their shops. I already described my bizarre adventure there in another thread so won’t be boring you with that again– link below . But I repeat, even if bizarre and highly unusual I still enjoyed that experience. https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/39468-massage-shops-on-sutthisan-winitchai-rd/page/19/ - look toward end of page On my way back I decided to see restaurant of A , former bar star but before I reached that place heavens opened with deluge , fortunately when I was passing by another restaurant so I had my dinner there. By time I finished , rain was over. A was not in his place so I returned to Silom civilization. At 9.30 another Foodland meeting with reader and emiel and after we shared recent news emiel and I went to Moonlight , his virgin trip there. Show was about to start but bar was no more than half full so we got good seats with good view for the scene where guys were trying to bring an attention to themselves. Y I was hoping will be there was already gone with customer, few boys I would be interested in somehow did not show the same and those trying to smile at me weren’t ones I was attracted to and after the show we decide to check Hot Male. No customers when we entered but about dozen boys still there beaming smiles in our direction but my hope was that S will be available while he was not present. But we have technology – mamasan texted him I’m in the bar without even asking me if he should and immediately there was message he is coming right now. 500 off fee, no drink and off we went to eat something at Foodland , I’m becoming addicted to their chicken and rice soup. Since emiel was still empty handed I suggested he makes grand tour of the area as after bars close boys are known to eat and drink in various places. Indeed when S and I were going to the room we saw one of Jupiter guys dining alone in Patpong 2 and one of Hot male guys dining in Convent. That one even suggested he will go with us but we declined that generous offer. S is a rock, always great and enthusiastic, quality guaranteed.

Day 5 In the morning unpleasant surprise – no water in the room. Luckily by time I finished breakfast and strolled around the area water returned so I managed to spruce myself up , pack little I had , left luggage on reception and at noon reported at Arena for massage session with Nuk . Muscular veteran there, it’s probably 7 or 8 years since I had my first session with him although he is not that old- started his career there early. Great massage, again with full coverage, he is professional in what he does , that’s sure thing. Than walk to Silom Convent Garden, place I discovered in August located right beside Sauna Mania in soi Phipat. Room a was available , lots of storage space and at least 20 hangers in the closed, microwave , even kitchen utensils but one substantial item absent – safety deposit box. I guess cheap rates mean something. Did some shopping at 7/11 at end of the soi and at 4 pm welcomed N, freelance masseur. Since I was just massaged we resolved to survey stamp collection instead. Great session , it was not our first meeting but today he seemed more active and more clingy than before. Absolute gem so my lucky streak continues. Rest of afternoon and early evening I spent in the room catching with forum , Line and e-mails. E-miel returned from his China trip so we agreed to meet in soi 4 at 9.15 pm . We never meet before. Waiting for him in mouth of soi 4 I was accosted by Vietnamese looking freelancer, handsome face but very skinny. Fortunately as soon as I told him I’m waiting for my boyfriend gentleman beaming smile in my direction showed up and it was emiel indeed. Nice conversation over beer in Banana outside. I was shocked to discover that he never went to Moonlight but somehow we decided to check Jupiter instead. It was Wednesday and at 10 pm Jupiter was surprisingly empty . We got front row seats , usually reserved for visiting big tippers with pussies but for lack of those we got invited to seat there. Moment of arrival was great as first walkabout started soon. I tipped again very hunky performer recommended to me by one of our member and again , the same like few days ago, no acknowledging smile when he was across the scene on other side. I know I should pursue him because of his looks but other half of me says , give yourself a break and save your money. Issue to be solved next trip I guess. Then one of performers looked familiar. I was pretty sure I saw him among crew at Sabaidee Spa in Dec 2021, then one of my friends engaged him and got his Line which he shared with me and we even talk about meeting but couldn’t find agreeable time. Luckily for all those years I kept his Line. Not sure he is the guy , lets call him T , I slipped red note into his hand when he was passing by and few seconds later , when he was on another side of the scene I was rewarded with broad smile , rarity in Jupiter. Then we watched show and when at midnight was time to make moves I decide to invite my guy for a drink. Good sign was , he was clearly happy and reason was explained by mamas an- it was his 1st day in the bar today. Then I pulled my phone , showed him profile in question and yes, he confirmed it’s his. Finally , after 4 years I had chance to hug such dreamed about hunk. Emile in meantime did not waste time and invited one of boys for a drink as well. It needs to be said that at that time, post show , mood in the bar improved , sober , disinterested looks are gone and boys are behaving normally, friendly smiles , clicking glasses etc. Neither emiel nor myself did not waste time, I asked my guy about going with me , he sounded enthusiastic , no wonder , first day and off already, I’d be too. Soon two sets of us left bar. Since I have habit of feeding my overnighters I asked him if he is hungry. He was and modestly suggested Foodland – good sign and there , another good sign , he settled for ordinary rice with vegetables, nothing fancy so bill for two of us was not even 200. It's a bit of walk along Convent to hotel and only there I asked about Long Time , to which he agreed , I’d say matter of-factly. Quoted me hair rising price but still much less than I expected to hear so I agreed as it would be stupid to let such a chance to pass by over 1 or 2 thousands. Great body, great personality, good English, active and patient, I’d even say caring , whatever good can be said about ones off – he ticked all boxes. Even when we waked up and it was 11 am he did not make any move indicating he is in rush to leave like he knew what is my pet peeve. I expected many things in life – to win lottery big , to become famous politician, scientist , movie star, pope and even best street cleaner in whole Bangkok but I never thought I will live long enough to say that my best off of the whole trip will be from Jupiter. It was never even close possibility but here I am !

I was called worse things by better people , lol

Does model Nicky from Moonlight know?

Right. I want to stay in new Dusit Thani again. Never stay there but already wanted to once

while you are right about reception area at Best , room while not shiny was clean and comfortable. It will be good looking guy , not squeaky massage table which will be massaging you after all

thank you very much. You right about emotional comfort. Trip was great idea and I'm happy I made it but I may sound more cheerful than I in fact I was . Doesn't make any sense to reflect my sense of loss into trip reports but even few boys noticed that I'm bit' different ' this time and to their credit reacted as they should trying to be more comforting. Previous trip was one to forget

reasonable but costly method considering admission is 5500 and drink at bar is 500.

Day 4 Being right in the middle of Silom Plaza it would be shame not to utilize both Best and Arena massages. I had good sleep after HC left and barely made on time for hotel provided breakfast – the same like American in Foodland plus small tray of fruits. Theirs is guy in Best massage recommended to me by one of our members and worth the trouble going by the look – I met both of them few days ago in Foodland so early afternoon I crossed the plaza , asked for him and lady on reception was clearly not knowing who I’m talking about. I was perplexed but what we have Line for? Lined member , he made his inquiry with the guy and it turned out he goes by different nick in the shop that his name we both know. Armed with that knowledge I went back, asked for Frank and we all were home. Great skills and actually it helped as today I was in need to good , proper rub and one of smoothest guys I ever met. Members recommendations usually work and this one worked big time plus ! . In the afternoon I had urge to sample pizza and when it’s pizza it must be from Madrid Café in Charoen Krung soi 49 , formerly Madrid Tavern from Patpong . Decide to go by bus and while standing on the bus stop I saw our member anddy passing by on motorbike. Go figure – rush hour on very busy street and you see familiar face. So I pulled phone and Lined him about my immediate plans hoping that he will see message soon. Indeed , as soon as I sat down in Madrid – I don’t place orders there because we have ritual there: ‘usual?” , ‘yes” which places Chang , no glass – as proletarian I drink from the bottle , on my table and cherry tomato and shallots pizza lands in the oven, my phone showed message ‘ I’m on my way . Soon we were greeting each other and had as usual a great chat over the meal. He was kind to drop me at Silom Plaza and after having a tea in the room I decided to break usual rules of not having massage after the meal and took stairs to Arena. There was quite handsome guy talking on the phone outside but he entered in just after me and it was good move. Art, the captain greeted me with open arms as always. There were about dozen guys of usual Arena quality, all smiling and pointing at themselves. All muscle and testosterone but I decided to go with that new guy who sexily lifted his shirt to show sexy sixpack, not that anybody there lacks in that department. So Chai it was. There’s old saying first quoted by Herodotus ( or was it Tacitus ?) “Arena never disappoints “ and it proven gain for 1726th time . What massage by Chai stood out was coverage . No part of my carcass was unmassaged, literally from toe to head. What a find ! Specially that for some reason as I mused above for some reason today I was in need to really good massage. I think tension of previous week and all those flights made me feeling cramped. It turned out that he finishes his shift now so I invited him for a dinner right after but before we left I wanted secure massage for tomorrow noon. Reason was I’m changing hotels so need somehow to spend productively those 3 hours between 12 and 3. Captain told me they open at 1 but out of blue Nuk , whom I did not see before appeared and said “ will come at 12”. One can’t to better than that !. Inquiring minds may ask ‘ why didn’t you ask Chai?” but tomorrow was his day off which I knew beforehand. Soon Chai joined me for a meal on ground floor and we parted our ways. After having two proper and complete massages today I felt quite energized so around 11 pm I decided to see if S will be available at Hot Male but he was already taken so I moved to Banana. Bar was packed but they found me a seat and soon somebody seating beside moved out so I invited two boys seating in shadows nearby to join me for a drink. One of them I already offed twice on previous trips , another one was new and happen to be very clingy. I did not plan to take anybody tonight, after all I had plenty of daytime fun but gin, separated from tonic worked it’s way to my head and I decide to go with known quality , tipped other guy 300 for his time and soon off we went to my room. Can’t say it entirely worked as intended, perhaps penalty for dumping other, clingy guy ? It was clear from beginning he wants to do a deed , cash and go. Even skipped shower part. No he did not smell or anything so fun part was missing , not hygienic thanks God , otherwise we would have a scene. It was not that bad but he made whole experience very utilitarian so we had our utilitarian fun, I did no make any attempt to keep him longer, he did not suggested it either. Cash and go type of fun. Strangely it reminded me off of Tum, now model at Moonlight from short lived Boy66 bar at the same location back in Sept 2017. It was exactly the same , I still remember his words ”I make you happy and go” . But after such great and fun filled day I could use some decent sleep so just chalked it off and went asleep fortified in a knowledge that one more guy was removed from the list of future engagements. Classic , known to science, case of boys who on subsequent offs feel too comfortable to care much about their customer.

just keep quiet, you know I like big boys so you don't want to run into trouble, he, he.

unfortunately for me it was just two guys on display but since they organized exactly guy I was hoping to see, no complains here

mystery solved and by the way this is exactly what I thought

Great for visual pleasure but I still think I prefer bit less glamorous bar guys who can be taken home for a hug instead just a shy touch on the party.

I did not know you are shy

go and soon you will find out

Day 3 Waking up at 11.20 only forced me to do morning sprint as I was supposed to leave room at noon. Travelling light helped and I managed to gather my meager possessions, shower ,shave and even have a tea I that time. Noon on the dot I walked to my next hotel , Heaven’s Boutique in the same Silom Plaza Arena and Best Massage are. Room was not ready yet as check in time is 3 pm so I left my bag and went to have haircut on Silom in the shop upstairs by BTS station, charge was 160 and I was happy to leave that 40 baht tip. Exchanged money in XOne , went to KFC to buy 500 baht bucket for good reason – my next guy loves the stuff and it our ritual that we feast on that doubtful treat if you ask me but he loves it. At 3 I got a card and went to a room. Quite sizable , nice change after cramped RedPlanet one. Again , all worked. At 3.30 my guy arrived. He is one not from the scene and we meet every trip at day time . Whenever he has time he lets me know and if it fits my schedule off we go, if not , no hard feelings till next time. Today he was bit reserved for some reason, perhaps boredom with me is setting in, only toward end of our time together it started to be much more romantic. Perhaps he was offended I did not tell him in advance I’m coming as he mused something to this effect. Still it was pleasant few hours, believe me not entirely devoted to munching on that KFC bucket. He works night shifts so around 7 pm he went to work and I marched to Foodland for a dinner , soon reader joined me there. Then after we exchanged all news and more I climbed stairs to Dreamboys hoping either Handsome Cambodian or Vu Thy will be there. Impressive stable filling stage in two rotations, I could off at least 5 of them. Particularly # 5 looks great and according to mamasan has no shortage of customers. Vu Thy was not there but Handsome Cambodian was and soon I called him over. We have a bit of history , not all chapters pleasant but I admit I have soft spot for him so of course we agreed on LT tonight. Which turned to be great idea as in several offs we survived together tonight he was most clingy by far to a point I was amazed as normally he is more reserved. He is bit troubled and lost a lot of his once impressive musculature but still remains one of most attractive guys I ever met and memories of time when I saw him for first time are firmly ingrained in my head. Another happy reunion this short trip. It was quite uplifting for me to see his enthusiasm as we had our less thrilling moments in the past, always forgiven. Usually boys are complaining about lack of sleep overnight but tonight they were vindicated and when he mused shyly around 5 am that he wants to go home I approved an idea enthusiastically. Age shows I guess. Day 3 and I’m still on the roll, praised be the Lord.

thank you. It is loss indeed. Happy to report that , with possibly only one exception, all meets this trip were great and my faith in Thailand was reinstated full force.