Where have all the Thai Boys gone? burmese workers are the worst i have expierenced in 25 years of coming here, their service is below zero, 1 burmese guy from homespa saphan khai, refused to look at me, while touching me, & refused to let me look at him,  on a 2nd occasion there another 1, i picked refused to work with me a white person, i then picked a thai guy, who as usual was great, burma guys have a real problem with gay people, so why the hell are they working in gay places, most of them have owl tattoos on their chest, yet none of them are wise, vietnam guys are terrible too, more money or menaces with them, the best guys in thailand are thai or laos guys & they are both non existant, atleast the cute ones are, they all seem to be working in these silly host bars on TikTok where male and females go.

A new member's first post and he's bad mouthing Burmese, Lao and Vietnamese guys across the board. Absolutely ridiculous.This is another hoax.

There are few posters here with more recent experience in Saphan Kwai and Silom area shops than me and my experiences have been the total opposite.

I can recommend K-Man, KK Massage and One Spa in Saphan Kwai without hesitation, and any shop in the Silom-Surawong rectangle.

 

 

10 minutes ago, reader said:

A new member's first post and he's bad mouthing Burmese, Lao and Vietnamese guys across the board. Absolutely ridiculous.This is another hoax.

There are few posters here with more recent experience in Saphan Kwai and Silom area shops than me and my experiences have been the total opposite.

I can recommend K-Man, KK Massage and One Spa in Saphan Kwai without hesitation, and any shop in the Silom-Surawong rectangle.

I said both Thai & Laos guys where great, try reading my post, both burmese and vietnam have bad reputation with thai locals & they don't off them, & i can see why, foreigners, most newbies have no idea how great it was when bars were full of cute thais or laos guys, now they are full of burmese guys who neither like gays & find it deeply offensive to their culture. in 25 years of living in thailand, i think i should have grasp of the scene here.

 

 

The only thing you have a grasp of is the misinformation and bigotry you've posted here. I frequently select Burmese guys and have yet to be dissatisfied.

 

2 hours ago, Truncheon said:

on a 2nd occasion there another 1, i picked refused to work with me a white person,

And there may lie the reason, the common denominator....you 😲

1 hour ago, reader said:

The only thing you have a grasp of is the misinformation and bigotry you've posted here. I frequently select Burmese guys and have yet to be dissatisfied.

 

Be fair. It's taken him 25 years of living in Thailand to reach that level of misinformation and bigotry. He's been working really hard to achieve this standard!

1 hour ago, reader said:

The only thing you have a grasp of is the misinformation and bigotry you've posted here. I frequently select Burmese guys and have yet to be dissatisfied.

 

Well maybe you have been very fortunate with Burmese guys, both my times were a disaster & mamasuns are extremely negative in talking about them or vietnamese, they tell me thai customers will not off them, they know better, so i fail to see how customers can be happy with them, i have also stayed in Burma for a short time, i found the people there the most unsociable i have ever seen in the world,

possibly from their decades of abuse under the Junta, something you do not take into account in their behaviour with foreigners, likewise the vietnamese have been severly damaged with wars.

Not all people are the same, please try looking deeper into the troubles of the countries they originate from & it might explain their troubled personalites, my point being is they are not suitable people to be working in gay bars or message parlours, their communist cultures & upbringing is negative to gays, a further example of communism behaviour to gays is Russia, need i say more.

10 minutes ago, floridarob said:

And there may lie the reason, the common denominator....you 😲

well in 25 years here i've had fantastic times with thais & my 4 negative encounters here, have been with 2 burmese & 2 vietnam, maybe its thier communism & coming from war savaged countries, maybe that's why they are a bit cuckoo, & a thai guy who took the burmese guys place was great, its not me, its foreign workers not being trained properly, i go to these places to unwind not to be stressed out by untrained foreign workers, Thailand is the land of smiles, Burma is the land of misery & wars, i guess thats why they are so grumpy, but i'm not paying for grumpy faces & their wars are not my problem. Burmese workers are causing alot of troubles in thaland & putting alot of thais out of work, since the war their are millions here.

Iv been with Lao, Thai, Cambodia, Burmese and Vietnamese boys. I keep my expectations at a reasonable level and never find myself disappointed. I try to keep in mind that I am getting to spend intimate time with these beautiful younger guys. That in itself is the reward. 

1 hour ago, Truncheon said:

Well maybe you have been very fortunate with Burmese guys, both my times were a disaster & mamasuns are extremely negative in talking about them or vietnamese, they tell me thai customers will not off them...

So you've made this judgement based on a few alleged interactions. And you expect us to believe that mamasans talk trash about their own boys. Unbelievable.

1 hour ago, Truncheon said:

 i have also stayed in Burma for a short time, i found the people there the most unsociable i have ever seen in the world,

You way want to consider that it's you and not them who's the most unsociable.

1 hour ago, Truncheon said:

Not all people are the same, please try looking deeper into the troubles of the countries they originate from & it might explain their troubled personalites, my point being is they are not suitable people to be working in gay bars or message parlours, their communist cultures & upbringing is negative to gays, a further example of communism behaviour to gays is Russia, need i say more.

This speaks for itself. Have you considered the possibility that you're not suitable to patronize massage shops.

1 hour ago, Truncheon said:

well in 25 years here i've had fantastic times with thais & my 4 negative encounters here, have been with 2 burmese & 2 vietnam, maybe its thier communism & coming from war savaged countries, maybe that's why they are a bit cuckoo, & a thai guy who took the burmese guys place was great, its not me, its foreign workers not being trained properly, i go to these places to unwind not to be stressed out by untrained foreign workers, Thailand is the land of smiles, Burma is the land of misery & wars, i guess thats why they are so grumpy, but i'm not paying for grumpy faces & their wars are not my problem. Burmese workers are causing alot of troubles in thaland & putting alot of thais out of work, since the war their are millions here.

Even Freud would would be at wit's end, trying to unravel that trash.

On top of that, you're asking us to believe that--after 25 years in Thailand--you suddenly found this forum, selected the handle "truncheon" (short stick carried by police; a billy club) and penned this absurdity. Why didn't you simply post under the screen name you normally use here?

2 bad experience with 2 nation and you start bashing the whole country? Racist much?

8 hours ago, Truncheon said:

please try looking deeper into the troubles of the countries they originate from & it might explain their troubled personalites, my point being is they are not suitable people to be working in gay bars or message parlours, their communist cultures & upbringing is negative to gays, a further example of communism behaviour to gays is Russia, need i say more.

What a load of utter trash! Troubled personalities a result of their governments? Absolute nonsense! Which planet do you live on?

12 hours ago, Truncheon said:

well in 25 years here i've had fantastic times with thais & my 4 negative encounters here, have been with 2 burmese & 2 vietnam,

25 yrs in Thailand and been with 2 Burmese & 2 Vietnamese, can't wait until you try and African.  Imagine if we all bases our opinions of an entire population on 2 experiences, everyone would hate Americans more than they already do..... you make gayinpattaya seem like a reasonable saint 😱

I wonder where Cambodians come in this "league"? Or what about Isaan guys as opposed to Songkla or Chiang Rai ones?  As for  character being based on the conduct of  heaven's sake, I'm British! how would you like to be judged on that basis?

I had 2 Vietnamese guys one of them for long term it was not perfect experience but it wasn't so bad either the second one from Screw Boys bar was amazingly beutiful and very good in bed so saying all Vietnamese are terrible is shallow generalization. 

1 hour ago, Londoner said:

I'm British! how would you like to be judged on that basis?

Well you have to claim gayinpattaya as he's one of yours 🙊

Mea culpa; an entire phrase was omitted from my post. It should have read; "As for character being based on the conduct of the government of the country...."

In truth , I'm a sort of a patriot in a left-wing sort of way, at least when it comes to our cultural legacy. It's just those d**n politicians I can't stand. Which must also be true for Cambodians at the moment.

 

My rating of money boys in Thailand is the following: I value Myanmar higher than Thai and Vietnamese lower, based on plenty of experience with Myanmar and little experience with Vietnamese.

On 7/28/2023 at 6:25 PM, Truncheon said:

i have also stayed in Burma for a short time, i found the people there the most unsociable i have ever seen in the world,

possibly from their decades of abuse under the Junta, something you do not take into account in their behaviour with foreigners,...

My experience is the contrary, I value Myanmar people, be it in Myanmar or in Thailand, the highest of everywhere I have travelled in SEAsia.

In particular I found that the poorer / more oppressed the people are, the nicer / more generous they are towards me.

  

On 7/28/2023 at 6:36 PM, Truncheon said:

Burmese workers are causing alot of troubles in thaland & putting alot of thais out of work, since the war their are millions here.

I don't think so. They (and other migrant workers) do work that no Thai would want to do. If they were causing troubles, the Thai would quickly send them back.

 

On 7/28/2023 at 5:16 PM, floridarob said:

And there may lie the reason, the common denominator....you 😲

Bar workers (of all nationalities) talk to each other and discuss their customers. Word gets around... 🤣

On 7/28/2023 at 3:20 PM, Truncheon said:

 1 burmese guy from homespa saphan khai, refused to look at me

If you look like Quasimodo, no wonder. who wants to lose an appetite hour or two before the dinner ?

I do not discriminate between nationalities, only performance, and I have had good times with all the nationalities mentioned.  Occasional dud, but I don't even ask what nationality they are. I had a great Burmese guy in Singapore!

On a related issue, I have a friend in Bangkok, American, retired, who told me last week, while enjoying Soi 4,  that he cannot believe how racist some farang retirees are. He cited, for example, a member of this forum, who has lived in BKK for many years. 

It's the same everywhere with some British expats. Some living is Spain claim they are there because of the "Blacks". Historically, some expats in Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, and Kenya thought they were there to teach the "natives" how to live,  others went to Palestine because "God gave them the land three thousand years ago...it says so in the Bible" and replaced, or tried to replace the indigenous population.

The history of British colonialism is a tragic one and the attitudes it engendered are still very much with us. Including in Parliament.

The Thais are fortunate that most of the expats- at least the ones I  know- are there out of love for the people and respect for the culture.

 

 

In my experience, and it might not be as extensive as others on here, but nationality isn't really the thing that divides people. They're just lines on a map, defined either by how wars ended, or how some white european decided to slice up land during colonalism. Nationalists like to project the idea of a national culture... but in reality it is always a mixing pot of different, sometimes similar, cultures.

When it comes to people, who they are and how they treat with you depends on so many different factors. Pretending it can be easily be explained by nationality alone is just fooling oneself.

47 minutes ago, omega said:

In my experience, and it might not be as extensive as others on here, but nationality isn't really the thing that divides people. They're just lines on a map, defined either by how wars ended, or how some white european decided to slice up land during colonalism. Nationalists like to project the idea of a national culture... but in reality it is always a mixing pot of different, sometimes similar, cultures.

When it comes to people, who they are and how they treat with you depends on so many different factors. Pretending it can be easily be explained by nationality alone is just fooling oneself.

With reference to my comment about racism among farang, in Bangkok, l understand that nationality is German.