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yes , for me Long Time is important simply because I like to wake up with boy beside me and I'm prepared to pay for it. To avoid time confusion I don't use term ' till morning " but rather ' till breakfast" and true to form I usually invite them to accompany me for breakfast ( and by the way I ALWAYS ask my long time offs before we go to the room if they want eat something). In very rare occasion when boys did not stick to their part of bargain and wanted to leave early I either gave them said 1000 even if normally I tip more for a short time or if tipped agreed amount I was never shy to voice politely my displeasure like ' if you must , go, go but I'm very disappointed" - they sometimes get a message.

Good that you clarified but since obviously it created confusion, perhaps before locking thread you can edit passage in question in original post to something like below:

will not recall, I'm sorry but definitely he did not mean farangs nor Africans but some Asian but whether they were young Timor Lesteans or old Bhutanese or other way around , kill me , I don't remember.

congratulations on successful ending on renovations of Bank of Bucknaway as you said in OP. 1000 baht is 25 40 baht tips - a lot of smiles can be created for just 30 USD.

I found that best cure of such situation instead of heading for escape is to call one boy over ,buy him a drink , have few indecent touches and nerves are calming very fast secured in feeling that good deed was just done and merit earned

Hero move to a place called Super Hero in Sukhumvit soi , I think 71 was short lived if one can call even that a move - just several of their boys moved there when old location closed . Year or so later MyHero opened in former Hero location at end of Sukhumvit soi 11 so in short ., My Hero is just reincarnated and spruced up Hero in the same place, glass wall is still there and muscular boys are smiling and flexing at you just like before. Not sure they re-opened small restaurant they had on premises though.

but we should be careful not to blame boys for such attitude as they may know from experience that many of their clients want just quick , release and they are losing interest right after. It's why communicating time expectancy is so important to me. One of more popular Tawan boys even told me which demographic group is particularly keen on fast deeds in his opinion but I don't recall whom he pointed.

that's very unkind and it's not how z909 was supposed to be thanked for his hard work. While subject is old and often discussed is great to have all that information systematized and placed in one piece- prime candidate for our ' Timeless " part of forum. We old hands should remember that there always newbies lurking for information which may be obvious and boring to some but completely new to others. And even old hands may pick up some novel idea which never crossed their mind before - me favorite example is not even boy related - on baht bus heading to Jomtien airport bus station guy chatted me about being anxious no to miss my flight and was greatly surprised that I'm taking airport bus just because I think is easiest and fastest way for me to get to Bangkok.

one can have both , plans and boy. Quite a few times I secured boy by paying off fee right away and telling him or mamasan I will pick him up at such and such time. I'm not jealous and if they have extra business in meantime I'm all happy for them.

while idea and advice is great it's good to remember that mamasans and boys are using the same trick to plant uninvited beside us either because they mixed us with somebody else or they hope this is fastest way to domesticate somebody wide-eyed, obviously new. this is why z909 advised to be prepared with exact change, bars are dimly lit, our heads may be a little under influence of those drinks and sometimes is confusion about unfamiliar currency , patron thinks he gave 1000 and is getting change from 500. I also have a custom of paying for drinks as it goes instead of waiting to final bill at end of visit as math is not where waiter are strongest , specially when drink price is something like 170 or 280.

Yes, that is my lesson of so many Thai trips - if I really like a boy, I should see him as much as I can afford and he has patience for. Next trip or even next week he may be gone or may not seem so attractive or may have another favorite customer and I will be ignored. For some boys of particular beauty I'm even ready to abandon my usual rule of not offing boys not paying any attention to my presence although I found that tipping boy , say 100 , when he is still on the stage miraculously extracts that elusive smile not only right away but also several minutes later which makes easier to invite him for an initial interview .

welcome to the forum in Bangkok don't forget Moonlight bar, to massage places listed I add Senso and My Hero

now you know why I, when offing a boy usually secure length of time we will be together, I don't want any 'you cum , I go" type of attitude

With such intense trip I'd expect to lose some weight ! Did you check scale ? I like your style of spending time in LOS, not a minute wasted

not that Siam Intercontinental was exactly utilitarian backpackers hostel for budget conscious

we had our days , now it's their turn but look at bright side - they still have long way to be where we are already

that's a bit surprising considering that atop of ABomb sits Classrooms hotel with girl bar on ground floor so one would think with 2 bars they should have some short time rooms but apparently they don't I don't know about Ambiance but BBB Inn in Bkk restricts it to 3 hours and I believe Suriwong Hotel does the same

I'm still working but of age when retirement options are # 1 conversation topic in my crowd. I gave Thailand , Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia serious thought but decided firmly against and will not try again. Coming few times a year for long and cheap vacation , yes , living there permanently , no and that for 2 main reasons: I'd miss my social circle of family and friends and it would take few years to rebuilt it in new place without guarantee of success and perhaps surprisingly for some, I'd miss four seasons. I hate heat, being on vacation is fine but living permanently in hot country, no way. As much as I like long and warm summer days I don't mind when they regularly change to long and cozy albeit chilly evenings and nights, serious

I did it several times and in cases when I either paid off fee for later / tomorrow in bar right away or gave money for off fee to boy so he could pay in the bar and come straight to my room it worked . When it was just promise that he will come , not supported by any monetary arrangement in quite a few cases boy was no- show, in once case I remember he apparently mixed hours so first he was waiting for me and left , than I was waiting for him in vain. Another case was even more malicious - boy promised to be during day, did not show, when I went to his bar / Tawan / in the evening I was told the he went home for visa run / he is Lao / In any case when I make advanced arrangements I always warn that I wait max 1/2 hr and if he doesn't show up I may not be there looking for replacement. I would not make advanced arrangement with boy I did not off before , no matter how beautiful he was.

no problem we can cling to them in the bar outwaiting rain and no need for an additional tip

since an attack is the best defense you should ask him ' and what is wrong with that ? ' which possibly would left him gasping for an air allowing you gracious escape from convarsation

what time it was ?

They may have staffing issues. Such ping-pong : open-close is not a best business strategy I'd say

still only way of finding out is to go and see who is there

Thank you for a very comprehensive guide to a Babylon amenities , I read it with great interest as I'm one of those rare species who never went there. Mr. Perfect Guy had enough attention from you so perhaps he did not feel inclined to look for more from sauna patrons. African guy hearing running water probably wanted to help to to soap your back, nothing accidental with you seeing his endowment I guess. Another great piece of trip report, we understand more is coming !