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Food was passable but twinky waiter adorable. I found that location because boy Arm from Dreamboys , now gone to Phuket apparently, invited me there in May. All I had to do was to eat and pay the bill.

Day 4 My friend is going home and I’m going to Bangkok. Breakfast together in Bay View restaurant on Brach rd. the we packed, Bolt was ordered and soon we were on our way. At Swampy we parted ways hoping to see each other in Bangkok soon as we always have fun vacationing at the same time. Train to Silom , room in Raya was already available . It must be low season as they were quite strict with 3 p m check-in in the past , even in covid time. Then to XOne to exchange some money, I noticed drop in USD since my day of arrival so decided to exchange euros instead. Upon return I met by chance former Tawan boy now falling on hard times. He told me he sleeps in Lumpini somewhere so I gave him 60 baht to buy himself a snack. In front of Raya there was another beggar who greeted me in English and feeling happy to be back in Bangkok I gave him 50 baht to which he reacted crying, serious. In the room I collapsed on the bed, jet lag still holding me .And pretty strong as I woke up only at 9 pm. After sprucing myself I went to check realm of Patpong entertainment zone. In front of Tawan I saw twink I offed in May but did not go in – another member , big fan of Tawan is coming tomorrow and we already agreed we will go there together. This time I decided to skip Jupiter , my usual bar on first evening and went to Hot Male with clear aim – to off S . After 3 nights of boys tricks I wanted somebody reliable, BS free and of known , high quality. Went down from the scene as soon as he saw me , like it was sure thing I came for him but more or less that was a case. Spotted few attractive boys and distributed few tips before we went to Foodland for a meal and then back to Raya. Finally 97% satisfaction, I noticed he built up his muscles since May, fact he confirmed. 3% of discount is for skipping breakfast but at least he stay in the room sleeping , sexily uncovered. Finally , on my 4th night proper LT without drama, 4K very well earned. No , we did not discuss money, with exception of our first meeting from now gone New Twilight we never do.

Day 3 Today my forum friend and me treated ourselves with 350 baht buffet breakfast in LK hotel. Very nice but on my side bit of extravagant as I was not even that hungry so I did not utilize their excellent offerings in full. Better part came on our way back as my friend opted for foot massage and I decided to try it as well , first time in my long an happy life. We entered some nice looking shop on Beach Rd and lady there seeing poor state of my feet suggested “ two ladies , one massage one foot repair “. Smart business and they worked hard to earn shop’s fee and their tips. Lazy afternoon with some strolls toward Tukcom and jet lag induced nap in the room. It was darkening when I went to 7/11 to buy some beer as I , true to what I said above decided I’m there to get fun , not to get even decided to invite the same boy for third night in row. Knowing what happened previous two night I did not had any extravagant hopes. Send him a Line about my plans of taking him and immediately got happy response with thank you and smiley face When back in the room I realized that 7/11 gave me 80 baht change too much . I don’t get rich from keeping it but girl at cash may get poorer so right away I went back to return money. On my way I met Dreamboys mamasan and pay her 500 off fee asking to keep boy for me until I come at midnight to pick him up. By time I was back in the room I got another message that he knows about it already. At 7 pm we went to Dicks at Jomtien Complex to meet bkkmfj for dinner . No prize for guessing what I had. Nice and long conversation then stroll through Complex, most bars were very sparsely patronized so we were greeted enthusiastically while passing by. I even noticed one handsome , long legged guy sitting in front of one bar and thought if I were in Pattaya longer I’d be glad to get bit closer to those legs and see what’s between them. But generally boys there are neither my friend’s nor mine type and we decided to go back to Boyztown to see again show at XBoys at 11.00. Very progressive one with some f…k on customer’s lap by circulating couple , plenty of skin visible and great fun. Just before midnight we crossed the soi to Dreamboys where I called my guy immediately over for a drink, my friend also found some suitable drinking companion. Not long after we were seen marching ( did you hear that floridarob?) to our hotel. It may raise many a brew questioning why I offed again boy who kind of deceived me last two nights. Reason is plain and simple , we got along great, conversation was interesting and bed activities very rewarding so social , so to speak part was extremely pleasant and rewarding on all three occasions. It was business part which was disappointing and today was no exception. First we talked about him visiting me in Bangkok after I return from Cambodia, he had only one condition, I will pick him up from the airport which is easy task. I liked idea very much since as I said I liked his company although because of goings last two evenings I treated it as distant possibility rather than firm , hope generating commitment. Then he asked if I can give him 2000 more than we agreed. No problem said I but only if you stay with me till morning – I like an idea of paradise. Then we proceed to stamp collection activities and when done, again almost on the dot at 2 he said he must go citing some reason of dubious validity. I tried to offer him 1000 extra just for 1 hr longer but he was firm , 2000 is ok he said , I need to go. So much about need for money expressed 2 hours earlier. Whole thing was very mysterious, false promises of longer stay without any desire of keeping them, very punctual departure and yet trying to fish more money. What was the reason I don’t know, jealous boyfriend / girlfriend, some medicine to take at the same time, somebody at home to take care of, no idea ? On another had as I said , social and bed part were extremely pleasant and rewarding. It reminded me Cambodian Prince fiasco from Jan 2023, equally charming and also trying to extract money without much of commitment to earn them. So I was left alone in the room with vague hope he may show up in Bangkok for few days together my assessed probability of it happening was between zero and nil. We will see who was right when I return from Phnom Penh. So I finished day 3 satisfied but not happy.

it low season but I must say that processing time on immigration , both inbound and outbound, were very efficient when I was there last month

sadly VAST did not do much good for me last 2 weeks, lol (through the tears and screams).

you didn't , relax. Perhaps my response was too dense. In general friends don't need to agree on everything anyways.

at first look you may be right but it's still too simplistic and smells pre-conceived notion more than cold analysis. With 33 trip so far before that one I never encountered deceit in such masse and yes , occasionally in the past I rewarded bad behaviour still with tip agreed. Reason is simple - bad behavior is ( was ? ) extremely rare and commotion resulting from it may be not worth the trouble. In Nov 2014 report I described in detail my worst off ever , situation with boy who refused to undress and get off the phone for 40 minutes before I kicked him out and he still demanded full tip even audaciously called mamasan enlisting her help. As result of commotion whole Om Yim hotel was put on middle of the night alarm and it still cost me 1000 baht to calm him down ( we agreed on 2000 in the bar). Saving even 2000 was not worth an experience. Second is that , as we will hear in following days , some boys gladly accept or even suggest you reduce their tip, only to be released much sooner than agreed. Money is saved but experience spoiled. I like LT and guy going home in the morning after breakfast together when I tell him he is free. This is what I go there for and what I'm prepared to pay for it as well. Issue for me is not money , is wasted opportunity. as peer gossip , for sure they talk to each other about clinets the same way we talk about them here but again , I have hard time to buy that explanation since all deceivers this trip were new hires for me and , as we learn soon , coming from bars where I must have good record with multiple , trouble free hires like Moonlight, Tawan and Hot Male. Who from there would instruct them to threat me as sucker when other their boys are great to excellent ?

then may be it's better not comment on LT issues as it sounds like virgin extolling virtues (or lack of them ) of free sex

thank you, in view of police massive presence this explanation makes sense

fuck you rob

I have feeling shortly they will charge us 200 baht if we opt for dealing with immigration officer in person

your uplifting reports are making me jealous in view of my own recent experiences

I find all of them above to be looking quite decent

since when prostitution is indecent service ? My father used to say 'work like any other and at least is not dusty"

Some. But if every second apple turns rotten whole basket is spoiled and thought appears, perhaps is time to throw basket out

I agree, on that trip I think I was caught off guard by what turned our to be was serial execution as we will see soon. Its one thing to have 1 or even three bad apples per trip but if that happen almost every other time id borders on disease. Based on my experience even if we warn them about reduced fee some still promise LT only to renege at first possibility. What was interested, I did not have that kind of problem with few guys I offed out of bar system ie. freelancers or bar/massage boys acting as freelancers at day time . Bottom line of this though is the fact that we go there to have fun , not to develop business strategies dealing with wayward guys. Of course not seeking LT offs is solution, some members use strategy of asking for LT option when in the room. But at end of day not seeking offs at all is also solution. Enjoying massage boys only in their shops for example. Still it's a bit different experience from waking up next to naked boy , often with morning wood. Question remains in such case -it's worth to travel whole day only to enjoy breakfast in world renowned UNESCO listed Foodland Patpong ?

you guys have fun. I wish I could say I'm jealous. I had remote plans to go at end of October but due to few factors, I dropped that idea

it would be nice if I enjoyed my own adventures this trip, ( of , well, in big part I did indeed)

do you have an idea why police shut down part of downtown on Thursday midday. U2 line was also shut down and I was forced to walk circular from Marien Platz to Alte Pinakotheke ?

and rooms are very nice

I was there month in January and 8 days in May and while those type of behavior happened before it was very rare and anecdotic. This time it was repetitive disaster to a point that last Saturday in the morning I caught myself thinking, " o my God , still 5 days before I go home " instead of usual " O my God, only 5 more days and I need to go home". This even surprised myself. No, I'm in no mood to look for excuses that boys have hard lives etc. There was time I was bleeding heart for them . This time is bit different, hence tittle of this thread.

I understand all that, I'm not teenager for very long time. If what you describe is the case it's very simple to disclaim that one can't stay past whatever time is. Puzzling part is why promise to stay till 5 while already in the room so deal is made anyways without fear of losing baht and 2 hours later change story to hunger and rain in order to go home earlier. There must be something mysterious about that 2 am as he left at the same time night before and going bit ahead , he will do the same following night ( yes , I decided that I'm in Thailand to have fun , not to get even and opted to take him next night as well, this time hoping for nothing and thus avoided being disappointed ). Up to 2 am he was great guy indeed, both at the table and in the sheets all there nights we met. Challenging life doesn't clash with keeping standards, no need to fabricate stories when sincerity will do.

Day 2 After he left I collapsed on the bed for well deserved rest after two nights on the plane and night in between spent sightseeing. At 9 breakfast with my forum friend at Kiss, then introduction to Jomtien with some time spent on almost empty beach. There one could see it’s really low season. Then noon time stroll through empty Jomtien Complex. I was checking throughout the day if message from my last night guest will show he will come for daytime visit but by 14.30 I lost all hope and when I lost it, around 4 pm message came he wont be able to come because he is still helping his friend to move and settle. Nice dinner with forum friend in the seaside restaurant at mouth of Walking Street. Tonight we decided to start survey of realm with ToyBoys. At 9 not too many customers , several twinky boys in briefs on the stage plus few , I’d say more attractive standing by the door in jeans and without numbers but clearly hoping. I suspect it could be foreign boys who in case of raid can claim they are only customers , hence neither numbers nor work attire. One was actually vert attractive , almost like my last night companion. After we left I went to Dreamboys to pay off fee for my last night guy to make sure he won’t be taken and promised him to take him out no later than midnight. I had hope he will stick to his last night promise to stay overnight At 10 change scenery for BoyzBoyBoyz. Loud music, smoking inside the bar, two dozen if not more fully dressed boys on the stage with only two bare chested. Mamasan Lek recognized me immediately and informed that sadly off fee now is 1050. Wow ! And that for boys dressed like anybody else on the street ? for a while I was only farang but after 2 or 3 more came but generally all customers were Asian or more precise , looking Chinese. Not seeing anything nor anybody of interest, most boys looked very average dressed as to cover any trace of sexiness, we did not even wait for a show, gulped our drinks and very disappointed went to ABomb only to learn that they don’t have boys at the moment and they show up only for the show. That’s strange , boy bar without boys ? End must be near , that’s rather sure. So much sooner than expected we went to Dreamboys where y guy was waiting for me with smile , I bought him a drink, we had talk with mamasans and hour later went to hotel. Very nice talk in the room, we exchanged some photos. It turned out I visited his city in Thailand . We talked about Bangkok as he never been there . I suggested he may visit me next week when I return from Cambodia and he seemed enthusiastic about an idea of me being his Bangkok guide. Of course I asked about promised long time. “I can only till 5 “, we even agreed on compensation of 3000. Bed activities excellent then , like last night 2 am arrive and all of the sudden he expressed desire to go home because he is hungry and it’s supposed to be raining and he wants to be home before rain starts. Goes without saying that I was upset as things were going very well, to a point that I did not even reduced his tip but let him gram 3000 prepared for an occasion on the desk. After he left I had cooling down stroll through deserted already streets in vicinity and even treated myself with kebab in the shop I had honor to patronize on the day of their opening back in Dec 2021. Apart from upsetting it was puzzling as we genuinely went along great, knew what to expect from each other from yesterday so why false promises if sincerity would do ? I cant say day 2 ended well for me , I start even questioning what is wrong with me if such nice guy is treating me such way?

sounds like description of quite a few Thai boys I met on recently finished trip

Arrival This time is was quite a long trek since I had 12 hours layover in Munich. After overnight flight my plan was to do some sightseeing of the city, few people I know consider most interesting in Germany. But even best plans are derailed and sometimes replaced by even better ones. Upon arrival at main train station, itself a long train ride from the airport , count at least 45 minutes, I noticed train to Garmish Patenkirchen departing in 7 minutes. Enough time to place my carry-on in locker, ticket was no issue as I got 1 day Bavaria Ticket purchased at the airport already. 90 minutes later alighted from the train at Garmish but instead of admiring Alpine vistas I noticed poster about train trips to Germany’s highest peak Zugspitze. Round trip to the peak by separate train plus cable car up and down was 72 euros. I said silent prayer that it will work and soon I was on my way . at certain point we changed train to different one, cog wheeled which took us through the tunnel to the glacier, quite high up there. From last station it was cable car to viewing platform just below the actual peak. Day was beautiful so you can imagine views from the top. Going down was direct cable car from the top to train station. From there to Garmish and then another train to Munich. Getting there just in time to catch train to the airport and board my Bangkok bound overnighter. Little I knew at that time that this transit day was perhaps best day of entire trip, bonus being completely unplanned and not even expected to be spent that way. Day 1 Arrived in Bangkok at 14.30. First step was to buy SIM card as I was supposed to meet another ,member who was about to finish his Thai trip with 3 days in Pattaya and this way my first were his last 3. Immigration was a breeze and soon we meet at Gate 8 from where Bus to Pattaya departs but we decided to call Bolt or Grab, whatever my friend was using and for 1000 baht plus 100 tip , 80 minutes after we were alighting in front of Classroom hotel. Since it was my friend’s first visit in the city we did walk about Boyztown’s sois an Beach Rd, I showed him famous Lewinsky hotel, we sat for a dinner at bay watch restaurant and at 21.00 parked ourselves, beer in hand on Copa’s verandah to see Boyztown coming to life. An hour later we decided to check show at XBoys so went there . It was almost full and show was very progressive with a lot of flesh visible and not one but two special shows. It was surprising to see one of their guys I know for years to be actually smilingly bottoming in one of them. And no, it was not just a simulation. Then was decided , at my insistence to check Dreamboys across the soi. I was hoping #36 I saw twice in January will be there . There were no customers but about dozen boys assembled on the stage for us , 36 was not one of them but fast my friend pointed at another guy and I wasted no time to call him over. Tall, muscular and handsome. Drink and whisper “ do you go with me ? “ answered “ yes” smilingly. What about long time ? “I will tell you later” was the answer. Soon we were walking to hotel. On top of physical attractiveness his English proved very conversational and we had good time indeed. What about that long time ? “ I can not tonight as I need to wake up early to help my friend to move, but tomorrow for sure” . What about daytime visit ?, “I will let you know tomorrow”. At 2 session was over , he wanted to go home to sleep so collected his tip, 2000, high for Pattaya but worth every penny an went his way. I , after two nights on the plane and day in between spent sightseeing Alpes , collapsed on the bed for well deserved , although lonely sleep. While in Thailand I like to wake up in the morning next to a fine gentleman, not necessarily dressed and to complete a deal , to have breakfast with him. But not tonight as we can see.