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If he is working at the bar, u still need to pay off fee, but yes, u dont need to go to the bar and buy drinks etc. I have met one boy during day time and yes, i dont need to pay off fee with him. Although, i did asked him to stay with me longer for cuddle and chat, so that alone increases his tip more than the off fee, albeit him missing his gym time. To be fair, his body isnt as buff as tawan quality or else id be feeling guilty for him missing gym hehe. That said, i think it is a bit rare to find boy willing to work outside bar hours unless he has good work ethic, or you are his regular, or he is also a freelance using apps. Might be wrong but it doesnt happen always. Sadly to say, that particular boy is no longer working in bar. Last i contacted him, he was back at his hometown building or renovating house.

Seconded. Most likely the guy gogo boys who will frequent the thai girl gogo bars instead. I know at least one did go when he got money to burn

Being thai, its polite not to brag. Plus i already off him when i asked him that, so partly him being cheeky. Imagine my surprise when i saw it for real in the bedroom lol

I can also say that even if the boys didnt participate in the big cock show, doesnt mean their dick isnt big. One guy in particular told me his dick is small when asked while he sit next to me, but ive seen mehkin, tiger, and #65 dreamboys, his is longer and bigger than the three mentioned here. Didnt know about nicky though.

The muscular popular one did told me he can make onwards 120k baht a month on high season. This of course includes multiple long time and multiple day trips he went with customer that month. But yes this is probably top 1% of the boys there, in other word toward the end extreme. On the other hand, one very popular latin/europe rentmen told that he got 6 customer in one of his best day here, while charging usd250 an hour. So yeah, like any other work, the popular super hot ones in the prime time can definitely earn a fortune.

Thread discussing the finance aspect of travelling with gogo boys.

Timeless forum thread have a topic specifically on travelling with gogo boys that answers your question and more.

Share it with me lol

Based on his criteria, he likes lean guys not muscular, so that also makes mehkin not his type.

Sorry now i am more confused, you like cut or uncut? Certainly muslim boys are all cut from young age. But as pointed out by others, its not common to find one, but my experience are also from dreamboys, but he quit working at bar already. If u really want to find cut boys, going further south to KL, or jakarta/bali would probably be a better chance to find one, but in this area, u probably wont have the advantage of seeing the goods on stage and close inspection in the bar before deciding to off them like what you'd have in bkk and pattaya. I hardly think the muslim boys will congregate in one place. More likely is none of their friends and family back home knows he is working in the bars, let alone gay bar.

Cisgender is the politically correct term for that right? Or does that only to differentiate trans from non transgender?

I wonder if they have category for bisexual guys which for me, are as good as gay guys hehe.

Moonlight is less? So far, 2k ST is normal for moonlight, jupiter, dreamboy, and tawan. Some tawan boys and of course moonlight model as well as popular muscular ones i jupiter asked for more than that for ST 2.5k and above (especially moonlight model). But for OP taste of lean masculine guys, i guess lower can be had and most if not all bars should have few of those type on offer. I hate haggling with boys. If they quote high price, as long as its within my expectation, i probably will accept (with high expectation that ill be getting great services - which even at lower quoted rate, i usually add more tip anyway for good service) or move on to other guy. My experience when haggling, not much experience since i dont like haggling but when i do, and successfullg get a lower price, the services wasnt as id hope for, and ill feel like a cheapskate doing it.

Owh, forget to mention, i did exchanged smaller denomination at my hotel receptions. U can also try to ask at money changer there to change for smaller denomination.

I just went there last year and in most places, they are still accepting both currency. Given than riel can only be used in cambodia, probably best to use all the riel whenever u have them. 1usd equals 4k riel is the rate and its fixed so i guess there is no advantages in using either except that riel can only be used there. I didnt use money changer there, since i brought enough usd. If u gave big denomination of usd, most likely, you will receive returns in usd + riel, unless its an even usd in returns, then usually you will get usd. I noticed most of the time, the smaller return usd i got are old and crumpled. While for bigger denomination, somehow they insist it to be crisp or they wont accept. My friend had trouble to use his old and crumpled usd20 that he got from a restaurant there. Most menu price in restaurant are in usd, so does massage places and drinks. Tips asked by guy at gay massage blue hatha also are in usd.

My problem other than excusing myself away is finding time and energy to keep going out after all the day time tourist activity and eating out lunch and dinner together. I always have my own room when travel with family, so it wasnt hard to skip out after dinner for fun stuff, but id be too tired usually. Now if i travel solo, the tourist activity will be tailored to what night activitt i had. For example, in hong kong, i usually go out early morning to beat crowd at hot spot tourist area, went back after lunch to hotel to cool off, and nap. Then go out again for night activity, dinner, market, and finished off with massage. Reading your last report saying u didnt really go out for lunch/dinner and didnt have much sleep make sense now hehe. I dont think i can sacrifice those if im with family since my parents are going to want to eat at restaurants. Going solo on the other hand, im not a picky eater, but i still eat, and have to adjust eating time with massage time which is minor issue in thailand hehe. Thanks for the great report! Glad to hear im not alone in thinking that the O party is a bit too crazy.

Usd and thai might not have big difference since both currency are benefiting from strong currency recently. Thai from their ever increasing tourism industry and us from their trade wars and recent shale oil bloom. UK were double hit by brexit and stronger thai currency. Malaysia also fare worse when the oil price drop, recent gov change, two air plane crash and of course the world famous 1mdb scandal. But yeah, since my country currency was low anyway compared to many of the developed country, ive gotten used to it already. All one need to do is adjust the budget accordingly.

Well, when i saw #37, he is fully clothed wearing super tight designer shirt and jeans, which other than his dick size, i can hardly need to guess how he look naked as his cloth really made to show all his muscular body, chest, etc. And i guess they think asian women prefer the boys being dressed up like ken from barbie

Glad to see u had nice time despite having family around. Its not so easy for me when i was travelling with mine, but i did manage to get out on my own two times for a massage when i was in milan lol. Yes, the benefit of travelling with my parents, i dont have to pay for hotel and food hehe, so im free to use my money for other stuff. While my sister and my mom used theirs to buy branded purse, i spent mine on massages, and one nice pair of noise cancelling headset. Your reunion with the hotel staff is hot fantasy of mine lol. After hearing that one of my regular masseur here being deported to nepal and cannot come back here to work, i managed to ask one of his friend about his whereabout and the answer is he is working as security guard in hotel in kathmandu. When i heard that, i immediately thought that maybe nepal isnt a bad destination for me to go to next lol. Your "free" sexual encounter with bar guys might be because he is also into you. After all they are human, and not often they find customer that are their type. Regardless, you did the right thing with still tipping him, as not tipping might send a wrong signal, as in he might think you as his bf or something towards that.

Wow! I wonder what kept you all this time from trying the sex toys? Surely not fear of HIV? Hehehe. Kidding aside, i think you are ready lol

Could it be that they didnt exposed their body (most guys wears shirt and jeans) thus hiding their true potential? The guys in the shows might be offable too as i understand. U just have to ask the mamasan because some of the gogoboys also substitutes for the shows during low season, but yes some of them are not offable or maybe, just maybe, will go for a price hehe. But yes, generally, in pattaya bars, there is severe lack of muscular guys selection. My first and only visit there, the muscular guys i took was from copa massage. He doesnt often comes to work, and usually only take one or two customer when he does come at night because he has day job (personal trainer) and also sell prepacked healthy food at the gym he work. Even with day job, he still take overnight until 6am hehe.

Im surprised that BBB is too twinkish for you. My guess is the muscular guys (at least a handful of them when i was there) was absent?

I think i remember the mamasan at helios, the only muscular guy there when i was there but of course older too. Maybe i should try him next time lol

Btw, nobody mentioned about size here. For first time bottoming, u probably wont want those expert that have a huge endowment to begin with. And lube is very very important. Maybe u should get better quality lube to start with. Not to scare you or anything, but pain can happen, usually due to either not enough lube being used, or due to not relaxing the muscle. One more thing is position. My suggestion is maybe try to start with you on top so you have full control. Again, this is really personal preference kind of thing, so if it doesnt work, try different positions until u find one that is comfortable for both u and the your guy.

Its not just incredible, its addictive and as ubdoubtedly reported here and most of the gay forums elsewhere, even those in their 70s still actively seeking for it. Having said that, it is still not for everyone. Certainly straight guys went ok without ever having anal and pure top gay never experience bottoming, and pure bottom gay never top a guy. But like i said before u will never know how u feel about them until u try it. And at the risk of sounding like a broken record, with sex, specifically anal sex, especially bottoming, itll get better with practise.