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Yup, u dont know. The same way u wouldnt know if hiv positive guys says he got test and negative. Without showing the result, or actually go get tested together (as results can be faked too) u wont know. Similar case with the study too. For me, the only way to really ensure unprotected sex is safe is for both partner to get tested after window period and confirmed free from all stds, and from then on in a monogomous relationship. As long as you and your partner have multiple sexual partner, stick with condoms

The 3 people still have the drug deteced in their system when they were tested positive. Of course there is some issues regarding their intake whether it is as prescribed or not since the subject records stuff themselves. And the drug can still be detected two weeks after u stop taking it. I thi k for that reason, they recommend to take the drug atleast 7 days daily before claiming it to be effective. Eitherway, it is still not foolproof.

Its just through social media, following thai who are hot lol

PREP is a preventative measure that is recommended on top of other measures taken to orevent contracting HIV. Condom is still the most effective measures by far, if it is used properly. In the case where condom werent used properly (either breaking, or slip, or stealthing etc), PREP can be a second layer of defense. It is not meant to be use solely as HIV prevention, especially 3 person in the study who have taken the drugs still contracted HIV. And yes, it wont help with other std

Wow, nut is someone ive been following lol i guess he will be one of the model for show and not for offing?

I think what can actually help is a window (1month for the test to be effectivr?) not depending on the donor of when they had sex, but rather the hospital before they are allowed to use the blood. Itll take away the donor lying about their timeline issue, and i think itll be wise to test the blood again before using it.

Do report back your finding here!

Would the use of prep which leads to people not using condom a factor of increasing in other std? Maybe, but i think i read somewhere hiv case is on the rise too. I guess its the case of more and more people are having unprotected sex, either fully informed or not.

Thanks! Looking at the map, its funny to see the ommision of arena massage while silom plaza is in the map, while myheromassage which isnt on the map is still there

Haha, i was also nervous the first time i go there, not used to 30+ hunks giving me flirty looks haha. Instead of going to the restroom, i focus on the card and manager instead lol

Agreed, which is why its always better value to go more than just hj in full service gay shop. Minimum tip is to discourage customer who just come for massage and nothing else. A high tip just for hj also to discourage customer to just go for hj, since like u said, a normal massage place can give hj for just 500, though u proba ly cant choose your masseur, and mostlikely the masseur there isnt a looker with nice body.

Yup, which is 400 more than minimum. Im not sure what service was provided though. But arena price range is lower indeed, since the facilities isnt as good as prince/vck/myhero. http://arenaspa-bangkok.com/what-is-the-minimum-tips-最低消費是什麼 The link above spelt out the minimum tips and what it entitles. Given the post date is 2011, they havent raise their price at all since then.

The minimum tip is only for hj i think, which is why its usually lower than full service shop like prince etc. So if service was more than just hj, as asnstudent did, u should give more than minimum

Seems like they try to give u a ride again asnstudent. Good for you for not budging and take a different boy. If i have time, id go somewhere else and change my appointment to a diff day, and if it happened again, cross that place off my list. I think what happened is the two mamasan didnt coordinate, or they are competing with each other to get customers, and it could be solved easily if customer booking is being handle by one person and all mamasan need to report to the person when getting a booking. And of course that one person who manages the booking also need to have a way to inform all mamasan which boy is taken already by booking. Its a pity that such a simple system, if followed, would avoid all that frustration. I can only imagine how it was during songkran time. If u want muscular guys for massage (face maybe not as good as prince masseur though) u probably will have better luck in arena. I cant say anything about prince but the two times i tried arena, i left with smiles on my face

Given that bangkok, especially silom area, isnt really a family area for vacation, its certainly rare to even see kids with straight couple around silom hehe. But you comes from iconsiam, like your report said, the wrong side of the river. I believe icon siam is the only big shopping mall on that side.

Yup. And seems like he is open for another trip too lol. For now, back to working for both of us. Btw, he already quit working in the bar and have a day job, and seems to be only meeting his regular customers from time to time. Definitely feel like having a BF experience with him.

Quick summary of how it went. He was with me 4 days 3 night, 2 night in a nice hotel ive been meaning to try, an hour from city near the beach. I did splurge on the hotel a bit, and he and I really enjoyed the hotel a lot. Whats not to like, private pool (yup we had fun in it), sea view, private steam room (and in here too lol). I find that i actually prefer morning sex to night sex, as after dinner, we are pretty much spent and tired from day sight seeing and just want to have a nice sleeping in. Plus waking him up with carressing his body, and cuddling while we both still a bit sleepy and lazy is one of the best moments ive had with him lol. The last night we are back in the city, where we had massage (my idea), nice japanese dinner (i asked him what kind of food, he said japanese), movie (he already watched it but wouldnt mind watching again with me), and of course more morning fun the next day. What i appreciate is we never discuss his tip until the very end of the trip, before i take him to premium outlet near the airport for lunch and a bit of shopping (my idea) before sending him off. When i gave him his tip, he asked how much is this in baht, so i show him the exchange, and told him dont change at the airport here, but change at thailand super rich for better rate. He said thank you, got a nice hug and peck on lips hehe, and he told me to find him when im in bkk. It all went great, better than i imagine and he is very accomodating with me and my clinginess in the room. Some of the interesting stuff we talked about were also the topic in one of the thread here about how boys had been getting ridiculously high tips/gift from rich customers. Some guys he told me got car, even apartment from their customer/sponsor who wants them to stop working at bar. He showed me few of his lucky friends who stopped working already once they got the lottery.

Thanks sifu! I did had a great time indeed. Thanks ggobkk! Cant find time to go to bkk yet but its good that i can take a piece of bkk here instead.

Ive had panu before too, and similar experience as you as well lol thigh fucking his sexy thighs while his had still massaging my back, i was in heaven. Panu and nuk are the two guys ive tried in arena, both muscular and great massage skills. Nuk is more defined, panu is bigger. Both is worth a repeat, but sadly last trip i didnt even go to arena lol

Thanks for sharing the exclusive report on babe. He isnt on my list but nonetheless got me curious too lol. I find shyness of boy a great turn on as well haha. Mind if i ask how much did it cost? U can pm me if you decided to tell me hehe. Thanks again!

Some people (not me) has too much money that they cant even spend through all of it in their lifetime, so sharing it with the boy that make their life happier doesnt seems so bad hehe.

Thanks for the report! Navigating gay stuff while travelling with kids is tough indeed. One suggestion if u still want to venture more without worrying about your daughter sharing your room is to use the short time room available in hotels nearby the bars. Boys usually know which one offer that, and price is usually affordable (last report i read mentioned 500 baht). My first two trips to bangkok was with friends with part of it solo, but i dont dare do anything else when with my friends except the innocence massage hehe. I did however had a regular come to my hotel room one night though and i pray hard my friend didnt disturb me haha.

This is probably the best answer to that question lol

Knowing that you are into models, that gets her 1k off fee, she is certainly trying hard to squeeze off from you. My last visit, the mamasan sits with us 3 almost the whole time we were there, being very helpful, doesnt feels pushy though, no ask of drinks, and just there to answer our questions, and from time to time ask if we want to off a boy. I even asked about a model who isnt around and she offered to call and ask if the boy want to come for me, but i dont want to do that to the boy so i politely refuse. Some people like this personalize attention, some people dont. Just say to mamasan you want to look first, or say not tonight, or say u just come for the show, seems to work for me.

To avoid from getting a different guy from pic, u can ask for more picture of the guy. If its editted, u can tell that the pics might be not consistent etc. Or just be direct and ask for unedited pic that is recent hehe. U might still not get it but itll tell the center that u want what u saw hehe. Another way is to go to the center choose the boy there and set appointment to go to your hotel at later time.