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Banana spa Bali was closed when I visited. Google Maps indicates it is closed temporarily. Hopefully it is for renovations as there was a crying need for this.
XXL 2
Fully operational. You pick your therapist from a book available there. During rush hours it’s recommended to book beforehand. Full service available.
Coco Grande
Their signature massage was a pleasant surprise. Unlike the SS shops in Bangkok that tend to clearly separate the afters and the massage proper, this was sensual throughout.
Note that tips asked reflect Bali as a tourist destination. It will be more expensive than outside. However, I will not discuss pricing neither here or in DM.

Banana spa Bali was closed when I visited. Google Maps indicates it is closed temporarily. Hopefully it is for renovations as there was a crying need for this.
XXL 2
Fully operational. You pick your therapist from a book available there. During rush hours it’s recommended to book beforehand. Full service available.
Coco Grande
Their signature massage was a pleasant surprise. Unlike the SS shops in Bangkok that tend to clearly separate the afters and the massage proper, this was sensual throughout.
Note that tips asked reflect Bali as a tourist destination. It will be more expensive than outside. However, I will not discuss pricing neither here or in DM.

This makes me laugh every time I watch it. 😆
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTzKN1yCEaB/?igsi=MW4wczlhejk5OHk2bA==
Doesn't the good vicar remind you of a much younger version of a recently departed (but quite possibly soon to be resurrected under a different name) forum member? 😏

I visited that place several months ago when it was just opened. In my view it was overpriced compared to the service on offer. The masseurs were not trained, and that was confirmed by Thai friends as well. Thus the price could not be defended IMHO.
However, massage scene in Bangkok is highly competitive so they might have improved since then.

Just a tip to those that are looking at pictures from the Line account of Jey. You will see the designations GV, MT, GT, MV. They stand for Gay Versatile, Man Top, Gay Top and Male Versatile. Male in this context means straight. The versatiles are not always as versatile as advertised though… and mamasan will sometimes give a more accurate description when you book.

Just a tip to those that are looking at pictures from the Line account of Jey. You will see the designations GV, MT, GT, MV. They stand for Gay Versatile, Man Top, Gay Top and Male Versatile. Male in this context means straight. The versatiles are not always as versatile as advertised though… and mamasan will sometimes give a more accurate description when you book.

Just a tip to those that are looking at pictures from the Line account of Jey. You will see the designations GV, MT, GT, MV. They stand for Gay Versatile, Man Top, Gay Top and Male Versatile. Male in this context means straight. The versatiles are not always as versatile as advertised though… and mamasan will sometimes give a more accurate description when you book.

Just a tip to those that are looking at pictures from the Line account of Jey. You will see the designations GV, MT, GT, MV. They stand for Gay Versatile, Man Top, Gay Top and Male Versatile. Male in this context means straight. The versatiles are not always as versatile as advertised though… and mamasan will sometimes give a more accurate description when you book.

Jey Spa owner keeps quality control so there is less of a chance of a hit and miss compared to say the Saphan Khwai shops.

I have had one distinctly average experience at Jey, the others fabulous. None bad.

You will find that they have some staff overlap with Glam’s. 

The phrase: «Arena never disappoints» is likely to pop out.

You will also find a shop called Titan at the ground floor in that plaza. You can try it out too, but I hope they increased their quality control in recent months…

Just a tip to those that are looking at pictures from the Line account of Jey. You will see the designations GV, MT, GT, MV. They stand for Gay Versatile, Man Top, Gay Top and Male Versatile. Male in this context means straight. The versatiles are not always as versatile as advertised though… and mamasan will sometimes give a more accurate description when you book.

The phrase: «Arena never disappoints» is likely to pop out.

You will also find a shop called Titan at the ground floor in that plaza. You can try it out too, but I hope they increased their quality control in recent months…

Thanks for the feedback . I’m going to Jey spa for the first time tonight— I’m seeing the highly recommended Blue!
I went to the new place “Gentle Hands” last night and it was fantastic. A full review is coming!

Rather than pay 7700 Baht for six hours, if I had a long delay or layover I would go to the hotel on airport property...I believe it is now a Hyatt property.  Their current nightly rate is $115 USD or approximately 3800 Baht.  Very convenient and very nice property.  I have stayed there before overnight when I had an early morning flight and I did not want my friends to have to get up in the wee hours of the morning to take me to the airport.  

Many masseurs operate according to a script. At an H place like Jey Spa they will as a matter of course offer penetrative services according to their listed role. Some, most often straight providers, have problems improvising beyond their script if customer changes his mind and wants side fun and cuddling during session. This is a well known phenomenon that most Thai massage reviewers are keenly aware of. 

 

Many masseurs operate according to a script. At an H place like Jey Spa they will as a matter of course offer penetrative services according to their listed role. Some, most often straight providers, have problems improvising beyond their script if customer changes his mind and wants side fun and cuddling during session. This is a well known phenomenon that most Thai massage reviewers are keenly aware of. 

 

Hatha Khmer, Ah Ram, Aroma, Paradise all offer penetrative services. At Hatha the guys are behind a glass and you can pick the one you like and ask mamasan questions. At Ah Ram you choose in shop from an iPad.

Try search them out on X and from the info provided there add them on Telegram and look at their daily offerings. 

Arthur and Paul Spa is a more upscale place, which I always use. At the other places, with the exception of Paradise, massage is not the main priority…

Hatha Khmer, Ah Ram, Aroma, Paradise all offer penetrative services. At Hatha the guys are behind a glass and you can pick the one you like and ask mamasan questions. At Ah Ram you choose in shop from an iPad.

Try search them out on X and from the info provided there add them on Telegram and look at their daily offerings. 

Arthur and Paul Spa is a more upscale place, which I always use. At the other places, with the exception of Paradise, massage is not the main priority…

Hatha Khmer, Ah Ram, Aroma, Paradise all offer penetrative services. At Hatha the guys are behind a glass and you can pick the one you like and ask mamasan questions. At Ah Ram you choose in shop from an iPad.

Try search them out on X and from the info provided there add them on Telegram and look at their daily offerings. 

Arthur and Paul Spa is a more upscale place, which I always use. At the other places, with the exception of Paradise, massage is not the main priority…

I think you're alluding to something which I have long noticed, but rarely say out loud because it comes with a high risk of causing offence. But let me voice my observation now, with an IMPORTANT CAVEAT: PRESENT COMPANY EXCEPTED. I am not referring to either Olddaddy or Pong.
My observation is this: the worst examples of English writing is often seen from native English speakers, not from those who speak it as a second language. Partly, it's a self-sorting result. Non-native English speakers are conscious that they are using a foreign language and think they will not be able to write as well as native speakers, so they take extra trouble to check and proof-read what they write; or if they have no confidence, they don't write in English at all. 
Native English speakers tend to "let loose". If their English is good, all well and fine. But if their English is bad, they may not even realise it, and they write as they speak (slang, highly localised usage, confusing syntax, etc) largely unaware how they come across to others. They are used to people in their own circles understanding them, and since those in the same circles also supposedly speak "English" (note the quotation marks), they all think that the language they use (and write) must be, well, English.
It may also have to do with the fact that those who have to learn English as a second language are taught the language in a structured way -- the nuts and bolts of grammar and so on -- and I have often been shocked how schools in Australia and the US (places I am familiar with) do not teach English that way. They assume the language need only be learned though use. The trouble with such an attitude is that students imbibe the language from their family's social circles and their own peers. If those circles don't speak or know how to write properly, then one cannot, logically speaking, imbibe proper English. And yet they hold the belief that what they are speaking is English.
An old friend of mine, now a retired schoolteacher, once explained to me that something happened in the 1970s and 1980s to pedgagogy. There was a change to valorising self-expression rather than teaching rules of grammar. Coupled with something to do with multiculturalism -- one is not supposed to criticise accent or idiosyncratic usage, instead, we must "celebrate difference" -- much language quality has gone down the chutey.
OK, I've said it. Let the arrows fly!

Final Part: Bars
 
Moonlight
Moonlight is a bar that I would visit at least once in every trip, mainly due to nostalgia. For many years during the time Jupiter was here, this was my favourite place (aside from Tawan). I like the stage & seat layouts as well as the boys & shows.
Nowdays though, the selection of boys are too small and consists of guys that are more of the "boy next door" type, twinks & twinkish guys.
On this occassion, I had just escaped from Tawan (2nd visit) and wanted to relax while watching a good show (the models who perform at Moonlight are hot). I got in about 15mins before the show and there were probably less than 5 other customers & around 10 boys rotating on stage.
To my surprise, a boy I offed several times a couple of years ago and who went back to his home country is back at the bar (I'll call him "A" here). I was delighted! I remembered A as a really nice guy and my experiences with him had always been good, so I was sad when I learned that he went back home a few years ago.
Anyway, A saw & recognized me from the stage, gave a huge smile and a wai. I called him over for a drink and we spent a lot of time catching up on what has been happening since we last saw each other. He mentioned a lot of things from our past encounters and still remembered my preferences (including my drink orders!).
I wasn't planning to off anyone that night so, having learned from past mistakes, I took A's contact details instead and arranged for a meetup the next day after lunch. For this night though, he stayed with me and we watched the show together. He was more handsy & touchy than what I'm generally comfortable with, but I enjoyed it because it's A. Before I headed off, gave him some tips for his time. Drinks : THB 500 for mine, THB 450 for A's drink.
On the next day, after some delays, A came over to my hotel and we had a great time. He was as horny & affectionate as I remembered (maybe a little more aggressive, in a good way 🤣). The moment I closed the door, he was already hugging and kissing my neck. His clothes were already off before we made it to the bedroom. We did everything I enjoyed doing, him remembering how I like things and we came together. When we showered together, a lot more touching happened that I was tempted to go for round 2 but decided against it as I had dinner plans.
Unfortunately, this was already my last day before heading back, so I couldn't off him again. He said he'll be in Thailand for now and have no plans to go back home at the moment, so that's good news for me. I am also glad that I have his contact details now. After the session, we spent sometime chatting before he had to go. Paid him his fees and walked out with him as I needed to head out as well.
This visit to Moonlight was perhaps one of the best decision I made during this trip.
 
Jupiter
I visited the bar 3x during this trip and had the one of the best and also one of the worst experiences offing boys.
The selection of boys was actually alright, with some nights having more models than others. However, there were not that many customers on all the nights I was there. Compared to my previous trip (where most seats were occupied), more than 1/2 of the seats were empty. The shows were pretty much the same old routine, so nothing exciting there. Well, the real highlight of Jupiter to me is obviously the boys. 1st drink: THB 500, 2nd/boy's drink: THB 450.
I'm going to share my experiences with 2 of the boys here, so I'll call them "B" and "C". The mamasan actually recommended them (together with a few other boys from the line up) after asking my preferences. With Jupiter, it was pretty well known that some of the boys don't go with male customers. So, I thought the mamasan's input on this would be helpful as I don't want to waste time on those boys.
 
Model "B"
On the first night I was at Jupiter, I invited B over to accompany me for a drink. B was one of the models the mamasan recommended and is supposedly ok to go out with male customers. He is a muscular guy, handsome and performs in the sexy shows. When he came over, the conversation started pleasant enough. After getting his drink and asking some surface level questions, things quicky became awkwardly silent. I tried keeping the conversation going and asking more questions about him but got one liner answers instead (and no, pretty sure it wasn't a language issue as he understood and spoke English well enough earlier). He was not making any eye contact with me and just waited for me to ask questions. Closer to the show time and after some awkward silence, he asked me point blank on whether I wanted to off him. I told him I'm not sure yet, to which he replied he had to go get ready for his show. Now, I know this is common in other bars as well if the guy also performs in the shows. What was shocking was how gulped his drink to a finish and just left. He didn't even wait for any tips or mentioned anything about returning. He took the small piece of paper that the boys will get with every drink a customer buys them (guessing is for their cut of the fee) and took that straight to the payment counter, which to me meant that he has no intention of returning.
Before the show started, they had the boys do a walk again. When B walked near me (I was seated close enough that the boys will definitely see me), he didn't spare even a glance (let alone any acknowledgment that he was seated with me for a drink just moments ago). To say I was pissed is an understatement. This was, by far, my worst experience with a boy who I haven't even offed yet.
During the show, the mamasan came to me and asked whether I'd like to off B as another customer was interested. I told the mamasan I wasn't interested. Finished my drink and left after the show.
 
Model "C"
Honestly, after the experience with B, I was not really keen on going back to Jupiter. However, after a let down at Tawan (my first visit on this trip), I found myself back at Jupiter. The same mamasan came to me again with recommendations, which I basically ignored at first. The boys did their rounds (and yes, B passed by me again and same as before, didn't even make any eye contact).
 
On this night, the mamasan was quite persistent about recommending a guy, "C", throughout the night. Now, C was someone I had my eye on during my last trip but a different mamasan told me he only goes with girls, so I didn't bother anymore after that. I mentioned what I heard to this mamasan but he assured me that C can go with both guys and girls.
So, closer to the end of the shows and after the mamasan's persistent push (not to mention my disappointing experience at Tawan), I told the mamasan I'd like to invite C over for a drink. C is also one of the models who performed in the sexy shows, so I had to wait until the shows are over. C has a lean, muscular body and is good looking (to me at least). Looking at him during the walks, he has that confident demeanor but seemed a little cold, so I was rather curious on why the mamasan was pushing so much for me to off him.
Anyway, he came over and sat with me. To my pleasant surprise, he was actually really friendly and we had a pleasant chat that night. He was not touchy and handsy at all (compared to A), which honestly works better for me (I know some here prefer to "sample" the guys at the bars first but I'm a little more reserved). Besides, my initial intention in asking him over was just to satisfy my own curiosity but I am so glad that I did invite him over. As it was already late night, I told him that I am not looking to off him tonight but will come again the next night to off him, if he is interested. He said yes, mentioning that he was also tired from his trainings during the day and performing in the shows earlier. So, I handed him some tips for the company and headed back to my hotel for the night.
 
True to my words, I came back the next night. It was still about 30-40mins before the show and the boys were already walking during one of their rounds. C saw me during the walk, shot a huge smile and gave a quick handshake before continuing with his walk. What a pleasant change from B, who (again) walked past me without any eye contact!. Anyway, I invited C for a drink after the walk and we chatted a bit more about his preferences and what I'm into (he's straight so he was upfront about the few things he does not do, which I am perfectly ok with). Closer to the show time, he excused himself to prep for the show but told me he would come back. And that he did. After the show was over, he came back to finish his drink and I decided to off him. Off Fee: THB 500.
Once out of the bar, he seemed more relaxed and we chatted all the way. I realized that he actually has a cheeky personality, flirting at random times as we made our way back to the hotel. Once at the hotel, I cleaned up first before him (he mentioned later that he was still a little shy to get naked in the shower together as this was our first session). When he came out all fresh, we started slowly and things progressed at really good pace to a really good ending 🤣. As he got more comfortable with me, his cheekiness came out during our session and I loved it. A lot of teasing and even dirty talks. The session felt like a mutual thing rather than the one-sided experience I felt at Jey Spa. We finished together and cleaned up, before going into the shower together. He was actually sweet enough that I was tempted to ask if he wanted to do a long time but decided against it (I had an early morning session planned with my companions on this trip). After showering, we relaxed a little and chatted more. He gave some recommendations on bars and cafes I could check out, some of which looked pretty cool on insta.
Eventually, I accompanied him out after giving his fee for the session. And yes, I did get his contact number and told him I'll give him a head's up before my next trip to BKK.
I visited Jupiter one last time on my last night (after my session with A during the day) just to kill some time after dinner. C saw me from the 2nd floor and waved. I asked him over for one last drink, chatted a bit before the show started. He thought I already left BKK, so was surprised to see me there. Told him I'll be flying out the next day. We chatted a bit more before he had to go prep for the show. I told him I wasn't staying long, so gave him some tips and said my goodbyes. I left the bar mid-show to prepare for my departure.
So, there you go. That was the last part of my experiences at the bars/spa. All in all, it was a good trip and I was happy with the offs I had during the trip. Looking forward to my next trip here (solo, hopefully )😊.

This is why I prefer the Hornet app

In the Hornet app you can see a list of his followers which is a good indicator if he is real.
And using the "birds of the same feather flock together"  principle you can see with whom he is associated with, and this is also a good indicator about his authenticity.
Additionally, in the Hornet app each member is assigned a user id by the system, which is searchable and very useful when you want to meetup again with a hot guy. In Grindr there is no such equivalent that I am aware of.
The banning process is less hostile than it is in Grindr.  Who has enough money to buy another mobile phone to restart their Grindr life after being banned?
Lastly, the price for a 1 year subscription in Hornet is about what Grindr costs for 3 months.
 

A tip I have is if you find an MB is to try and get on to another platform asap and don't discuss to much on Grindr. I got banned from the app, and I think it was talking to an MB and discussing Money.

now on day 3 i opted for the biggest mistake i could do trying the same because inpresssed withe the picture 0n displays 
opted again for a 54 and 52 size with another SK spa for 90 min 
first red flag the boy not responding and never communicated but since i walked nealy 20 min thoughtbi would go with 2 54 tops(which i doubt) never erect inspite of the staight porn being watched. and all over within 50 minutes without zero massage ended the day intially in moon ight butcertainly not my type paid 500 and inmate wer playing rock paper with someone. so left in 20 min ended up in dreamboy and i dont have to elaborate on the same but kind of figured out two of the forum members()
one guy has offed some one but his friend was totally sloshed and all pda and when the friend went to the loo he took of with his pick and when the friend returend  picked another boy and full public kissing and inspite of repeated alert from the so called people in charge he never cared a dam and to be honest he was a damn goodmkisser looked french and i left shortly after.  i wished i have the courage to do something like it
*I JUST CHANCED ON A SPA CALLED CAVE MAN AND TO BE HONEST I WAS GLAD I AVAILED THE SAME  AND IT WAW BRILLIANT FROM THE PREVIOUS NIGHT OPTED FOR A TWO HOUR BUBLE SCRUB AND MASSAGE AND I WILL WOUCH THAT I WOULD HAVE AVAILED ALL THERE SERVICE IF I HAD TIME.*
Sex was an option but the massage was so good that i never opted for the same
 
lesson learned
no mor spas on line
 
 
 

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