Back in Bangkok after only one month!

[jason1975]

8 minutes ago, Min said:

Do they have gym and pool?

No gym. No pool.

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, Foolish said:

It would be a sad day if all boys moved to do massages instead...some of the bars really look like they don't even earn back their operating expenses every night 😓

if we won't patronize them , inevitably they fold with exception when it's  owner's hobby or bar is just washing machine for money.

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, Min said:

Do they have gym and pool?

do you want to get tired an then drown?

[tomaruj72]

On 9/11/2025 at 5:56 PM, jason1975 said:

84 baht breakfast at Foodland now.

My guy and I didn't sleep much last night in 3rd floor room at 56 Surawong because traffic from Surawong Road was loud and non-stop.

Walls not thick enough to block out noise from outside. I don't know if walls are thick enough to block out noise from inside! No complaints from guests in other rooms about acrobatics in my room!

Roll back 12 hours. My plane touched down in Bangkok at 7pm and there were many arrivals at immigration. A quick thinking lady officer decided to open priority lanes so as to shorten the queues. Great work!

Airport train and BTS were not crowded on a Thursday evening and I reached Sala Daeng BTS at 8.15pm. I decided to walk past Soi Thaniya to get to 56 Surawong and the Thaniya ladies were all out and ready unlike the gay gogo bars which only get going after 10pm.

After checking into 56 Surawong, I made my way to Sun Massage for pre-arranged 1-hour massage session with Vietnamese muscle guy who speaks Mandarin well.

"You go to bar now," he said to me knowingly after we finished showering together at 9.55pm. The converse happened when I entered Freshboys and met my guy. "You go massage before you come here." Maybe it was my glowing appearance. Maybe it was smell of aroma oil. Or maybe everyone knows what a slut I am.

Freshboys was moderately busy. Not overflowing with customers but fair selection of single customers, two high rollers and some groups (a group of 3 farang lady tourists and a mixed Chinese group of 5 with shopping bags who invited two guys to sit with them and have drinks. According to my guy, they came last night and invited the same two guys). Lady boss came to say hi and toast one of high rollers who had two guys seated with him. My guy says he comes every night. Another high roller had 4 guys drinking with him in corner.

About 30 guys working including many new faces - Myanmar and Laos. Vietnam representation continue to decline as one of my favourite guys went on visa run to Laos so he's away 2 nights.

My timing was excellent. I stepped into the bar at 10pm, got a seat, said hi to mamasan and invited my regular guy down from stage. I showed mamasan 3 fingers to mean that I was offing my guy for 3 nights. A few minutes later, the show began. Unfortunately, the opening act was no longer high energy gogo dancing but a lip synching diva performance. Then came a solo sexy dance with big cock visible. This was followed by 3 guys in tiny red bikinis below and sequinned coats on top and they were dancing to The Wonder Girls "Nobody but you". Very strange performance and my guy told me this was new addition which the 3 guys had been rehearsing the past 2 weeks. Lip synching diva performance next. But next 3 performances showed cocks galore with lots of sucking. This is what Freshboys is known for and customers come to watch this. After the first show ended at 10.45pm, the guys went up the stage on rotation.

I checked my bill. 2300 baht. Off fees for my guy for 3 nights - 3 x 500 = 1500 baht, my drink and my guy's drink = 2 x 400 = 800 baht. I told a waiter I wanted to pay up. Mamasans were busy entertaining VIP guests.

I paid with three 1000-baht notes. I got back a 500-baht note, a 50-baht note, two 20-baht notes and lots of 10-baht coins. To my surprise, I didn't get back any 100-baht notes. I collected the 500-baht note, tipped the waiter with the 50-baht note and left the rest behind.

I had to dig into my pocket to get some 100-baht notes to tip mamasan and several guys on stage as I walked past them out of bar and went to hotel.

When you 'off' a guy for 3 nights, does that mean instead of going to work at the bar, they hang out with you?  Do you pay them on top of the 500 baht per day?  He stays with you overnights too?  "all inclusive?

Right before covid my BF and I tried to 'off' a guy from Moonlight.  All was good until they realized there were 2 of us trying to 'off' him.  I was prepared to just wait in the lobby so my BF could enjoy but they said no, unless I off another one myself.  For the price at Moonlight we couldn't afford 2 of them.  We'd be a bit shy/nervous to get 2 at once anyways. 

[zoomomancs]

15 minutes ago, tomaruj72 said:

When you 'off' a guy for 3 nights, does that mean instead of going to work at the bar, they hang out with you?  Do you pay them on top of the 500 baht per day?  He stays with you overnights too?  "all inclusive?

Right before covid my BF and I tried to 'off' a guy from Moonlight.  All was good until they realized there were 2 of us trying to 'off' him.  I was prepared to just wait in the lobby so my BF could enjoy but they said no, unless I off another one myself.  For the price at Moonlight we couldn't afford 2 of them.  We'd be a bit shy/nervous to get 2 at once anyways. 

I've off'd men for several days to take them on a trip and paid them 4,000bt a day and paid all expenses. The bar gets the off fee - often around 500bt a day. That's for hanging out all the time. Personally I wouldn't try to negotiate less than that for 24 hours of their company. Some men have another job (eg daytime massage) so we could negotiate about that if they want to do the other job. I've always enjoyed it but, being old, I find young men sleep a lot.

[tomaruj72]

3 minutes ago, zoomomancs said:

I've off'd men for several days to take them on a trip and paid them 4,000bt a day and paid all expenses. The bar gets the off fee - often around 500bt a day. That's for hanging out all the time. Personally I wouldn't try to negotiate less than that for 24 hours of their company. Some men have another job (eg daytime massage) so we could negotiate about that if they want to do the other job. I've always enjoyed it but, being old, I find young men sleep a lot.

Thank you for the reply!  Makes total sense.  Too rich for my blood to keep all day but maybe a 'short' visit is in order.  I don't know how my BF and I can manage to get one to share for some soft play.  For only 500 baht per day at the bar, they must really reply on tips for income.  

Last time my BF and I took a day tour on a bus to various attractions.  It certainly looked like I had 'long time' offed a guy because my BF (asian) wore a tank top shirt and short thin light shorts that were women's shorts.  He had picked them up for a friend but mixed them up with his and wore the wrong ones.  And since I am white...it totally looked like I rented him.

 

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, zoomomancs said:

I find young men sleep a lot.

If they sleep deep you may still have  a lot of fun with them exploring their bodies 

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, tomaruj72 said:

When you 'off' a guy for 3 nights, does that mean instead of going to work at the bar, they hang out with you?  Do you pay them on top of the 500 baht per day?  He stays with you overnights too?  "all inclusive?

Right before covid my BF and I tried to 'off' a guy from Moonlight.  All was good until they realized there were 2 of us trying to 'off' him.  I was prepared to just wait in the lobby so my BF could enjoy but they said no, unless I off another one myself.  For the price at Moonlight we couldn't afford 2 of them.  We'd be a bit shy/nervous to get 2 at once anyways. 

500 is for the bar , boy must be paid separately at whatever rate you and him agreed.

Whether he hangs with you all the time ( not recommended ) or you meet him at specific times needs to be worked out with boy. It may include staying with you whole time but also just coming every night at , say 10 p.m.,. for 2 hrs short time session and after and before that you both free, or everything in between.

What you should do in Moonlight ( or any other bar in similar case ) is to discuss with boy first that he will enjoy company of both of you in sequence , of course with 2 sets of tips for his time and services and then one of you would off him paying just one off fee.

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, zoomomancs said:

I've off'd men for several days to take them on a trip and paid them 4,000bt a day and paid all expenses.

You are pretty generous. I'd pay 3000 plus all expenses which may amount to a lot if boy is with you all the time 9 300 dinner becomes 600, 500 bar drink is now 1000 etc). Of course if one likes boy and boy wants more I'd yield to his reasonable demands.

What I discovered, somewhat painfully is that it's different story to take a boy for few days of travelling and different to have him to stay with me in Bangkok and Pataya, wherever he is based.

Travelling may be fun a lot but having him stick to me 7/24 in his hometown  not necessarily. At least for me it was somewhat disappointing lesson 

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, tomaruj72 said:

 

Last time my BF and I took a day tour on a bus to various attractions.  It certainly looked like I had 'long time' offed a guy because my BF (asian) wore a tank top shirt and short thin light shorts that were women's shorts.  He had picked them up for a friend but mixed them up with his and wore the wrong ones.  And since I am white...it totally looked like I rented him.

 

It certainly did, lol. But this is Thailand so chances were nobody cared or even paid attention.

This brings another issue which sometimes bother me when I off boy for whole days. They still tend to dress like moneyboys ( skimpy shorts, very fitting jeans, flashy shirts etc, )  instead of looking casual which I'd prefer

[tomaruj72]

3 minutes ago, vinapu said:

It certainly did, lol. But this is Thailand so chances were nobody cared or even paid attention.

This brings another issue which sometimes bother me when I off boy for whole days. They still tend to dress like moneyboys ( skimpy shorts, very fitting jeans, flashy shirts etc, )  instead of looking casual which I'd prefer

LOLOL!  We met our tour group and a white couple kept looking at us.  I was very self conscious about it until I realized they were lost and asked us if they were on the same bus.  They were just looking at us because we were speaking english.    It's been a few years, I am far less self conscious, and yes, even with my BF looking like I rented him, nobody cared.  On a different day we did a boat tour and one of the hosts was a woman who was very interested in us.  She finally asked us about how we knew eachother so we explained we were friends from Canada but my 'friend' is from Taiwan.

In our travels we did spot a few older white guys with much younger rented boys.  It was very obvious and new to me.