BOYS TOWN IN PATTAYA, DEAD?

[brall3]

Is Boys town in Pattaya really that dead?  Gone is the parade of guys just before the bar opens?  Boys at the club are fully dressed?  The off fees are a bit higher than at other locations?  If all of this is true, why go to Boystown?   

[vinapu]

Reasons are aplenty. Guys may be fully dressed in BBB and in jeans but barechested at Dreamboys but still undressed appropriately in Classic  Boys,Xboys and that shop.in the left as you enter soi, name escaped , Funny Boys ?

Show at Xboys is most progressive in all country.

Yes off fees are 1000 at BBB and aparently xBoys but still at 500 in other bars.

As for your question it's really only you who can answer it for you. 

What is more important to get dream hunk for 1000 off fee or run of the mill guy for 500.

My father sister was famous for saying " why to waste money on travel if I can see everything in TV " and it was in 70 ties

 

[zoomomancs]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

Reasons are aplenty. Guys may be fully dressed in BBB and in jeans but barechested at Dreamboys but still undressed appropriately in Classic  Boys,Xboys and that shop.in the left as you enter soi, name escaped , Funny Boys ?

Show at Xboys is most progressive in all country.

Yes off fees are 1000 at BBB and aparently xBoys but still at 500 in other bars.

As for your question it's really only you who can answer it for you. 

What is more important to get dream hunk for 1000 off fee or run of the mill guy for 500.

My father sister was famous for saying " why to waste money on travel if I can see everything in TV " and it was in 70 ties

 

Has the off fee at X boys gone up? I thought it was 800?

[vinapu]

I was told that by boy I offed from Dreamboys so not tested it myself. 

[Foolish]

I can't imagine paying 1k off fee at X boys. Even 800 was expensive...unless they have recently elevated the quality of their boys 

[ChristianPFC]

When I asked staff on Wed16jul2025, an off fee of 800 was quoted, short time 1500-2000, long time 3000. I don't comment on that.

I should have a second wallet with a few 20 notes and pull it out and count and reply "too bad, I don't have that much money with me".

[Olddaddy]

1 hour ago, ChristianPFC said:

When I asked staff on Wed16jul2025, an off fee of 800 was quoted, short time 1500-2000, long time 3000. I don't comment on that.

I should have a second wallet with a few 20 notes and pull it out and count and reply "too bad, I don't have that much money with me".

Getting up to Western prices ! 

[Marc308]

Those off-fees are ridiculous. I'd rather my money go to the working boys not to the mafia and BIBs. I walked by BT two evenings ago and BT Soi 3 (BBB's soi) was dark, the big sign at the entrance to the soi was off, and I could see very little if any activity. There is NO reason I would step foot in that soi (sorry Vinapu, chacun á son goût!) but this is the past of Pattaya certainly not its future. It's future will be appointed massages, the apps and, as always, sweet unexpected chance meeting serendipity.

[Olddaddy]

1 hour ago, Marc308 said:

Those off-fees are ridiculous. I'd rather my money go to the working boys not to the mafia and BIBs. I walked by BT two evenings ago and BT Soi 3 (BBB's soi) was dark, the big sign at the entrance to the soi was off, and I could see very little if any activity. There is NO reason I would step foot in that soi (sorry Vinapu, chacun á son goût!) but this is the past of Pattaya certainly not its future. It's future will be appointed massages, the apps and, as always, sweet unexpected chance meeting serendipity.

Your probably right ,there will only be like "showbars" left 

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, Marc308 said:

... this is the past of Pattaya certainly not its future. It's future will be appointed massages, the apps and, as always, sweet unexpected chance meeting serendipity.

Or just nothing. While  see reason  of flying through half globe when so called scene is there, I  can't see logic of expense of time or money to go there in order to comb apps and websites, task I can do easily I comfort of home. 

Appointed massage for me sounds and feels like apointment with dentist or colonoscopist so no, thank you but thank you. 

I agree that off fees in excess of 500 are just racket and certainly I don't fee guilty to cheat bar of that income and deal with their guys directly. 

[Marc308]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

Appointed massage for me sounds and feels like apointment with dentist or colonoscopist so no, thank you but thank you. 

Well massage appointments do bear some resemblance to a colonoscopy, no?  and cum to think about it, they bear some resemblance to the dentist too! 

In fact I once did fly halfway around the globe to go to the (old) A-Bomb and when arriving I found only 3 "veteran" boys there. Give me appointments anytime over that hit-n-miss experience.

I've had very good results in the past few weeks at Jey Spa and 15M in Bangkok. Quality of service at both establishments exceeded expectations. The first a little pricey but decadent and refined. The second much more barebones where the service is the star. 

[kokopelli3]

8 hours ago, Marc308 said:

Those off-fees are ridiculous. I'd rather my money go to the working boys not to the mafia and BIBs. I walked by BT two evenings ago and BT Soi 3 (BBB's soi) was dark, the big sign at the entrance to the soi was off, and I could see very little if any activity. There is NO reason I would step foot in that soi (sorry Vinapu, chacun á son goût!) but this is the past of Pattaya certainly not its future. It's future will be appointed massages, the apps and, as always, sweet unexpected chance meeting serendipity.

Most often the lights on are in Boyztown except during rain storms and no-drinking holidays. Typically  the action picks up after 9+ pm. In addition to BBB, there is ToyBoys and Classic Boys with a decent selection of lads.

 

[Patanawet]

On 9/3/2025 at 5:03 PM, zoomomancs said:

Has the off fee at X boys gone up? I thought it was 800?

Could be the strange Thai logic of increasing prices when times are bad to compensate for lower turnover.

[PeterRS]

18 hours ago, vinapu said:

I agree that off fees in excess of 500 are just racket and certainly I don't fee guilty to cheat bar of that income and deal with their guys directly. 

Not having offed anyone for several years, I perhaps should not comment other than generally. What in the view of those who write about them does an off fee actually cover? Given we are in the low season, does any part go to bar rental, wages of any paid staff and the regular payments to the binb? I realise that it is supposed to cover the non-attendance of the guy for a period of time when another punter could perhaps have taken him off. I just wonder if the increasing amounts seemingly now sought by some bars cover more? 

[vinapu]

11 hours ago, Patanawet said:

Could be the strange Thai logic of increasing prices when times are bad to compensate for lower turnover.

 

3 hours ago, PeterRS said:

Not having offed anyone for several years, I perhaps should not comment other than generally. What in the view of those who write about them does an off fee actually cover? 

While I agree that logic of increasing prices in times of low demand is strange, it not necessarily means  it not bearing any fruits. In order to ow one needs to sit at cash registerwhich we actually don't. We old owner of Dreamboys bar in soi Twilight raised price of drinks to 650  scream was that it's sostuid. Yet bar continued to be packed night after night. 

I trade some goods on ebay  and noticed neat trick if item doesn't sell. Delist it and relist it month later with higher price. Works well quite often. 

Why we should worry about what off fees actually covers beyond me. Our problem is to assess value if paying it creates value for us or not.  Certainly for some boys is worth paying even doubed up rate white for other even standard  500 is waste money. 

[PeterRS]

22 minutes ago, vinapu said:

Why we should worry about what off fees actually covers beyond me.

I am merely curious. Since my first offs in Bangkok around 45 years ago I have always understood that bars depended on off fees to pay some of the overheads. It used to be said in olden times that if a new boy failed to achieve a certain number of offs over a certain period, he would be dismissed. But then of course, all the bar boys were Thais. Does this still exist? I have zero idea. But if some overheads have to be included, it could perhaps explain why off fees rise during the low season. I cannot believe building owners and the binbs lower their prices depending on the season!

But if this is correct, then off fees should come down in the high season. I am assuming they do not.

[Londoner]

Like PeterRS, I am years out of date- twenty to be precise- but I can confirm that a dancer who didn't make enough money could lose his job. There was one at Throb, whom P knew, who was relegated from performing on stage  to looking after the toilets because he didn't achieve the requisite number of customers! in those days, it was not unusual to feel the hands of a guy gently massaging your back while you were trying to pee at a bar. Yes, trying to in my case; it would always stop me performing! I assume there were possibilities for tips.  I recall P being  sorry for this guy and giving him some money. 

In  those days, the management in the bars was harsh. A guy I had offed at Funnyboys was  sacked after taking too long a holiday back home. I met him again at Dreamboys. Then there was a mamasan in Phuket who was alleged to impose discipline with the use of a schoolteacher's cane. 

Come to think of it, bearing in mind "la vice anglaise......"

 

[Patanawet]

1 hour ago, Londoner said:

 

 Then there was a mamasan in Phuket who was alleged to impose discipline with the use of a schoolteacher's cane. 

I think we all know who you mean. Owner not mamasan.
It was reported by a member who saw it from an upstairs window in the guest house he was staining in.

 

 

[Olddaddy]

3 hours ago, Londoner said:

Like PeterRS, I am years out of date- twenty to be precise- but I can confirm that a dancer who didn't make enough money could lose his job. There was one at Throb, whom P knew, who was relegated from performing on stage  to looking after the toilets because he didn't achieve the requisite number of customers! in those days, it was not unusual to feel the hands of a guy gently massaging your back while you were trying to pee at a bar. Yes, trying to in my case; it would always stop me performing! I assume there were possibilities for tips.  I recall P being  sorry for this guy and giving him some money. 

In  those days, the management in the bars was harsh. A guy I had offed at Funnyboys was  sacked after taking too long a holiday back home. I met him again at Dreamboys. Then there was a mamasan in Phuket who was alleged to impose discipline with the use of a schoolteacher's cane. 

Come to think of it, bearing in mind "la vice anglaise......"

 

Probably wouldn't do it nowadays!!

They can't find staff 

[khaolakguy]

10 hours ago, Patanawet said:

 

The owner can only have been Mrs Tangmo, renown for this sort of thing!

[Rent Boy]

1    Why go to Boyztown, when the selection of boys in Jomtien is better ?

2   Once we're in Jomtien, most of the boys I speak to are paid commission on drinks sold.  There's no appearance money or requirement to be at the bar.   Now not every bar is the same, but that's how most are.   Now if the boys aren't paid for being at the bar & can come & go as they please, why pay an off fee ?

 

[vinapu]

22 hours ago, PeterRS said:

 

But if this is correct, then off fees should come down in the high season. I am assuming they do not.

Your assumption is 127.43% correct

[vinapu]

18 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

Probably wouldn't do it nowadays!!

They can't find staff 

+1

Indeed.on my recent visit to Moonlight I could count all floor boys wit one hand and no I'm not six fingered. They had contingent of Cambodians and of course most of the left for home

[vinapu]

8 hours ago, Rent Boy said:

1    Why go to Boyztown, when the selection of boys in Jomtien is better ?

2   Once we're in Jomtien, most of the boys I speak to are paid commission on drinks sold.  There's no appearance money or requirement to be at the bar.   Now not every bar is the same, but that's how most are.   Now if the boys aren't paid for being at the bar & can come & go as they please, why pay an off fee ?

 

1. It depends what movie one is watching. On my recent visit last week I went length of complex at 10.00 Pm and midnight and most certainly I did not spot anybody I'd take home, even for free, like Christian PFC use to say. Certainly not a case in both Boyztown bars I ventured to I. E. Dreamboys and XBoys 

2.second question was answered last night by my semi permanent companion ( freelancer) this trip. After few off fee free nights because his freelance status he asked me pick him up from the bar as his boss noticed he missed so many nights in row and warned him his status in  the bar may be in danger. 

For some reason he took it seriously so I went  bought him a  drink and duly paid off fee. 

[jason1975]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

1. It depends what movie one is watching. On my recent visit last week I went length of complex at 10.00 Pm and midnight and most certainly I did not spot anybody I'd take home, even for free, like Christian PFC use to say. Certainly not a case in both Boyztown bars I ventured to I. E. Dreamboys and XBoys 

2.second question was answered last night by my semi permanent companion ( freelancer) this trip. After few off fee free nights because his freelance status he asked me pick him up from the bar as his boss noticed he missed so many nights in row and warned him his status in  the bar may be in danger. 

For some reason he took it seriously so I went  bought him a  drink and duly paid off fee. 

Which bar is your guy from?