Do you know these boys?

[ChristianPFC]

17 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

Treating the boys like a cheap commodity 

Assuming this is directed at me, can you quote where I did so?

[caeron]

You can certainly treat a hire as a piece of meat and dehumanize them, but I disagree that the act of engaging them is inherently dehumanizing.

It's a job. I often didn't like my work. But, it paid well and I did it. Why is that any different than this? Perhaps you can argue, and I don't think I'd disagree, that most work is dehumanizing. If you're working, it's almost always because you have to. Different forms of economic vulnerability, but still most people do it because they have to. I do not subscribe to the notion that sex work is somehow inherently worse than other jobs.

If you don't want to dehumanize the guys, don't be an asshole. It is amazing how many social interactions go so much better when you aren't an asshole. 

[floridarob]

3 hours ago, caeron said:

. I do not subscribe to the notion that sex work is somehow inherently worse than other jobs.

Because it could be worse, like being an attorney 😳

[Min]

On 5/5/2026 at 8:03 AM, floridarob said:

Because it could be worse, like being an attorney 😳

or a porn director hired by @Olddaddy 😄

[Keithambrose]

On 5/5/2026 at 2:03 AM, floridarob said:

Because it could be worse, like being an attorney 😳

I believe  that some people like being an attorney! I can't comment as I am a lawyer! A subtle distinction,  perhaps.

[floridarob]

9 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

I can't comment as I am a lawyer!

Would you sue yourself for defamation ?

The comment was directed at you, btw 😉

[kram987]

On 5/4/2026 at 2:29 PM, caeron said:

You can certainly treat a hire as a piece of meat and dehumanize them, but I disagree that the act of engaging them is inherently dehumanizing.

It's a job. I often didn't like my work. But, it paid well and I did it. Why is that any different than this? Perhaps you can argue, and I don't think I'd disagree, that most work is dehumanizing. If you're working, it's almost always because you have to. Different forms of economic vulnerability, but still most people do it because they have to. I do not subscribe to the notion that sex work is somehow inherently worse than other jobs.

If you don't want to dehumanize the guys, don't be an asshole. It is amazing how many social interactions go so much better when you aren't an asshole. 

This reminds me of an article I read a long time ago by a woman sex worker.  Her point was that she got to dress how she wanted to, did things she liked, set her own schedule, had tons of free time and only take clients she wanted to.  She said she didn’t feel exploited or degraded.  Now her high school job at McDonalds….

[kram987]

About economic exploitation,  I think many maybe most people only do their jobs because they need the money.   Also, what they are saying is that it is better to let them starve?  I think that its usually best to let people decide for themselves what they want to do.

[Keithambrose]

7 hours ago, floridarob said:

The comment was directed at you, btw 

Really? I'd never have guessed!

[Olddaddy]

On 5/7/2026 at 12:31 AM, Keithambrose said:

I believe  that some people like being an attorney! I can't comment as I am a lawyer! A subtle distinction,  perhaps.

Blood sucking lawyers ,🧛‍♂️🧛‍♂️

I had a lawyer chasing me for money in Sydney after I was going to sell my apartment and changed my mind on the sale day ,(just to be a Cunt !)😂

Oh you still have to pay my conveyancing fees !!! he said , 

Yeah right 🙄

 

 

 

 

 

[vinapu]

12 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

I had a lawyer chasing me for money in Sydney after I was going to sell my apartment and changed my mind on the sale day ,(just to be a Cunt !)😂

Oh you still have to pay my conveyancing fees !!! he said , 

 

If one orders a meal and upon delivery to the table decides it's not hungry , still should pay for that meal, no ?

[Marc308]

You might remember the Midnight Cowboy bar in Saphan Kwai from (many) years ago. The mamasan (from Hong Kong) there was a very realistic person when it came to describing the boy trade. "Would you rather work for an hour in a nice air conditioned hotel room... or work for a few weeks in a steamy, mosquito-infested rice paddy?" She said she thought that most go-go boys were basically lazy, wanting to earn money as easily and as quickly as possible. She also pointed out that in order to attract a nice girlfriend, they need money. "No girl wants to date a poor boy" she reasoned. 

Now just to put this all in context... at the time, when asked if 500 baht was acceptable, she replied "that would be very generous". Times have obviously changed. Isaan boys are no longer restricted to being a rice farmer, but... ? 

[floridarob]

3 hours ago, Marc308 said:

She said she thought that most go-go boys were basically lazy

When I went to Prime massage, the reception lady asked if I want male or female to do the massage...

I told her I want a handsome young guy.... she said handsome young guys are too lazy/don't want to work, no have 😝

[a-447]

6 hours ago, Marc308 said:

.She also pointed out that in order to attract a nice girlfriend, they need money. "No girl wants to date a poor boy" she reasoned. 

What has amazed me is the fact that the girls don't seem to mind if their guy is a male prostitute.

Many wives /girlfriends would wait for their guys outside Krazy Dragon in Sunee every night. If I walked out alone they would often suggest I go with their partners!

And some of the guys at the old Goodboys and Niceboys bars told me their girlfriends knew what they did.

I have also met a few wives over the years and although I felt rather embarrassed (I'm  fucking him and he's sucking my cock!!) they were nonchalant.

I thought this attitude might be a Thai thing, but then I met the Danish girlfriend of a hugely hung Isaan guy who was the top in a fuck show. I asked her how she felt about his job and her answer was - 'It doesn't bother me. Besides, I get to enjoy that cock when he gets home'. We proceeded to have a very enjoyable conversation about his cock. She told me how difficult it was to give him blowjob, as she had trouble getting her lips around it. She laughed when I said I would be willing to give her a demonstration of how it's done!

The younger brother of my long-term Pattaya friend worked in Eros with him, and their sister worked in a bar in Walking Street. I loved the fact that they didn't have any hang-ups regarding prostitution. They saw it as a legitimate way to make money. And why not?

[floridarob]

2 hours ago, a-447 said:

What has amazed me is the fact that the girls don't seem to mind if their guy is a male prostitute.

Same in Brasil.... even some of their mother's know too....it's a job🤷‍♂️

[Keithambrose]

47 minutes ago, floridarob said:

Same in Brasil.... even some of their mother's know too....it's a job🤷‍♂️

'mothers', not 'mother's'!

[floridarob]

30 minutes ago, Keithambrose said:

'mothers', not 'mother's'!

Please direct all future grammar corrections to my legal counsel, @Olddaddy 🥺

[Keithambrose]

15 hours ago, floridarob said:

Please direct all future grammar corrections to my legal counsel, @Olddaddy 🥺

I thought you would react!!

[Min]

On 5/15/2026 at 10:46 AM, a-447 said:

What has amazed me is the fact that the girls don't seem to mind if their guy is a male prostitute.

Well, a Viet boy working in Fresh Boy, who got a Thai wife, told me his wife doesn't mind if his customers are male, but she gets jealous and asks many questions if a particular customer turns out to be lady. Whenever he comes home late (i.e., more than 30 min after the bar closes), she would video-call to check his whereabouts. And he only picks up the phone if the customer has a penis   

This reminds me of someone in here saying in another thread that he would mind less if his boyfriend/sponsee has a wife instead of another male partner. 

On 5/15/2026 at 2:42 PM, floridarob said:

Please direct all future grammar corrections to my legal counsel, @Olddaddy 🥺

legal counsel and also porn co-star

[macaroni21]

20 hours ago, Min said:

his wife doesn't mind if his customers are male, but she gets jealous and asks many questions if a particular customer turns out to be lady.

This seems to be quite common among straight guys doing gay-for-pay work, and not just in Thailand. I think it's the same the world over. The wife is far more insecure about the possibility of an emotional relationship developing between a female customer and her husband than a male customer.

Many years ago, I came across a story about a gay-for-pay guy eventually going into a relationship (and apparently a deeply emotional one) with a male customer and it took a long time before the wife figured out. Apparently, she just didn't understand the concept of bisexuality (he was); there was perahps also denial. She plotted murder when it finally dawned on her what happened. Alas, I can't remember whether she succeeded in her plans or not!

As @vinapu has said many times, it's hard to imagine any gay-for-pay guy not being at least somewhat bisexual.....

[bkkmfj2648]

1 hour ago, macaroni21 said:

This seems to be quite common among straight guys doing gay-for-pay work, and not just in Thailand. I think it's the same the world over. The wife is far more insecure about the possibility of an emotional relationship developing between a female customer and her husband than a male customer.

This was exactly true when I lived in Budapest for 8 years.

One of my main massage guys was a military bi army guy and his wife was ok with it - as long as his customers were male.  After many years of getting to know him, I also got to know his wife - as he would often call her to say that he was at my place and I would often speak to her.  Unfortunately, that bastard was using me as an alibi to go with other women - because unbeknownst to me he was telling his beautiful wife that he was going to massage me but was instead f$%king other women.  So, one evening she called me frantically looking for him and I told him that he was not at my place and that is when everything was exposed.  She was angry at him for going with other women and I was mad at him for using me as an alibi to go with other women.

On Thursday evenings, at the Action Bar (now closed) in Budapest was a reoccurring event = "Get to know your escort night" and the owner of the bar would invite the many escorts to sit and drink with the customers.  I had the hots for one of their regulars who performed in the Oral Academy show on the weekends and he was at the Thursday night event with his wife.  I bought both of them a drink and I asked him if I could have a private session with him at my place and he told me to talk to his business partner (his wife) to negotiate the deal.  After agreeing on the deal terms I said to her, aren't you jealous?  She replied no - I get to manage and approve who he goes with and it brings in extra income into our household.  Amazing.

 

[hank75]

On 5/15/2026 at 11:46 AM, a-447 said:

Many wives /girlfriends would wait for their guys outside Krazy Dragon in Sunee every night. If I walked out alone they would often suggest I go with their partners!

Many of these girls also work in bars. It’s sort of like how actors can marry each other and not mind if their partner films intimacy scenes with another actor, they know it’s strictly professional. Though of course hiccups can happen (Brangelina comes to mind). Generally they mind far less if their guy is going with other guys. Vice versa it makes me wonder how bar guys are so relaxed about the fact their girlfriends are off with different men all the time.

I once met a European woman who was in a relationship with a Cambodian bar boy and was stepmothering his two kids. 

[jason1975]

23 hours ago, Min said:

Well, a Viet boy working in Fresh Boy, who got a Thai wife, told me his wife doesn't mind if his customers are male, but she gets jealous and asks many questions if a particular customer turns out to be lady. Whenever he comes home late (i.e., more than 30 min after the bar closes), she would video-call to check his whereabouts. And he only picks up the phone if the customer has a penis   

I know most Viet guys working at Fresh Boy are married but I never expected any one of them to be married to a Thai wife! I am curious to find out who!