I was in a social setting, and one of the people in the conversation stated that a "gay voice" or non-masculine manner of speaking was a big turn-off for him. I told him that one of the most handsome men I can think of, Jason Caceres, is often accused of having a very gay voice, but that I didn't care one iota about his voice. When I showed him his photo, he admitted that he'd "pay him to drink his used bathwater." Were I not happily married, I'd be overwhelmed with happiness at being able to get physical with him just once, and would feel I'm the luckiest person on the planet if he were to be my husband. Of course, I'm close enough to the luckiest person on earth to have the husband I have. 😃

But I'm amazed that the way a person talks could be such a turn-off for someone. Would it matter to you? Would you just feel awkward having a spouse/domestic partner with such a voice? Or would you even decline sex with someone because of his voice? My husband's voice isn't exactly macho either, but I could hardly feel more proud of him. Is a man's voice a big factor in your attraction to him? Would you feel this is a reflection on you? Would you actually decline sex? Or just refuse to have him as your boyfriend?

Cory Tyndall is another man I think is hot, although his voice isn't the most masculine...

Another man who turns me on, but doesn't sound like Mr. Macho is DJ Joey W. Suarez.

https://www.facebook.com/JoeyWSuarez/

Of course, one of the most handsome men I've ever met, Hunter Gallagher, is also one of the most masculine (professional fighter). But I admire him for his beauty and talent, not his voice....

https://www.queerty.com/hunter-gallagher-on-his-hot-girl-attitude-taking-a-bump-in-the-ring-being-wrestlings-most-popular-sugar-baby-20250403/

I, for one, like guys with deep , masculine voic. e but if all other boxes are ticked , what you call "gay voice" wouldn't be deciding factor for me

For STRs, one-nighters, if his body or performance is what I'm into .... I don't care about the voice. Otherwise, a fem-like voice is a turn-off.

As in everything in life, people have different "triggers", things that signal TO THEM qualities that may be irritating, repulsive, disqualifying etc.... It could be the littlest thing, something another person might not ever think about or consider, but for that person it brings up certain emotions or feeling they cannot overlook or dismiss.....

Gays have always been characterized by their "voices", often referred to back in the day as "lisping faggots".... Their voices are often considered effeminate, and the hetero crowd has always said "you can always spot a faggot by his voice"...... (which isnt true BTW))

For many a voice can be a turn-off, whether it be an affected gay voice, or a screechy, grating str8 voice..... But just like any other physical attribute, its all just a matter of "taste" and attraction.... What works for one might not work for another, and this has been disputed many times on THIS forum in regard to attraction to diff races.

My rule of thumb is always, "you do YOU, and let others do themselves".... That way, EVERYONE stays happy !

To answer the original question, personally, I am not attracted to an overly FEM guy, but have engaged with many who have met my "size" requirement.....

Yes, we also all have our Priorities ! 🫠

3 hours ago, Suckrates said:

As in everything in life, people have different "triggers", things that signal TO THEM qualities that may be irritating, repulsive, disqualifying etc.... It could be the littlest thing, something another person might not ever think about or consider, but for that person it brings up certain emotions or feeling they cannot overlook or dismiss.....

Gays have always been characterized by their "voices", often referred to back in the day as "lisping faggots".... Their voices are often considered effeminate, and the hetero crowd has always said "you can always spot a faggot by his voice"...... (which isnt true BTW))

For many a voice can be a turn-off, whether it be an affected gay voice, or a screechy, grating str8 voice..... But just like any other physical attribute, its all just a matter of "taste" and attraction.... What works for one might not work for another, and this has been disputed many times on THIS forum in regard to attraction to diff races.

My rule of thumb is always, "you do YOU, and let others do themselves".... That way, EVERYONE stays happy !

To answer the original question, personally, I am not attracted to an overly FEM guy, but have engaged with many who have met my "size" requirement.....

Yes, we also all have our Priorities ! 🫠

I agree, but just at the moment, in Patpong 2, I am put off by the screeching effeminate Thai guys, who can be found there!

49 minutes ago, Keithambrose said:

I agree, but just at the moment, in Patpong 2, I am put off by the screeching effeminate Thai guys, who can be found there!

I would be too but as Suckrates said above for two put off by such voices it may be another two who will be actually attracted by them

1 hour ago, vinapu said:

I would be too but as Suckrates said above for two put off by such voices it may be another two who will be actually attracted by them

Ok, I look forward to hearing from members who are attracted by high pitched screeching!

4 minutes ago, Keithambrose said:

Ok, I look forward to hearing from members who are attracted by high pitched screeching!

Many people seem to love Drag Queens, and they represent a group of "so-called" screeching effeminate guys. Perhaps its just "place and time" ? And perhaps again, its distaste, but nevertheless, its still an individual thing, and not representative of a group.... I have been to many, many Gay Pride celebrations where the crowd seems to LOVE the loudest and femist of the revelers and marchers...... If a FEM guy doesnt make your dick hard, well so be it, dont sleep with one or spend your time around one ! It's really that simple

If he’s versatile, what then? Rich baritone with a nice macho cadence when he tops, and gender-conforming countertenor with vowels suddenly getting campy when he bottoms?

3 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

I agree, but just at the moment, in Patpong 2, I am put off by the screeching effeminate Thai guys, who can be found there!

What about Patpong 1?

15 hours ago, Mavica said:

For STRs, one-nighters, if his body or performance is what I'm into .... I don't care about the voice. Otherwise, a fem-like voice is a turn-off.

Thank you for your honest response. I'm particularly interested in your feelings, since you said you could enjoy the sex, but not being with the person over time. I can think of certain characteristics a man might have, which would lead me to be willing to have sex with him, but not being in a relationship with him--however, these would all be behavioral and likely to harm me. For example, I'd never want to be in a relationship with a liar, an abuser, a substance user, and so on. I suppose it would also be quite challenging for me to be in a relationship with someone whose values are very different from mine (for example, a highly religious person or a Republican).

However, those reasons would involve something which would cause continuing friction in the relationship (arguments, conflicts, etc.). Thus, I hope someone can help me understand why a non-masculine voice would be a barrier to a long-term relationship. Is it that you'd somehow feel ashamed to be partnered to someone with such a voice? Would this be a source of conflict in the relationship? Are you fearful of comments from family or friends?

I would admit that I prefer a masculine voice. However, of all the characteristics a person may have, it's one I would consider quite minor. People sometimes say to myself or to my partner that I'm lucky to have him (despite his non-masculine voice). I always agree heartily, adding "Yes, we're so lucky to have each other!" ❤️

27 minutes ago, unicorn said:

Thank you for your honest response. I'm particularly interested in your feelings, since you said you could enjoy the sex, but not being with the person over time. I can think of certain characteristics a man might have, which would lead me to be willing to have sex with him, but not being in a relationship with him--however, these would all be behavioral and likely to harm me. For example, I'd never want to be in a relationship with a liar, an abuser, a substance user, and so on. I suppose it would also be quite challenging for me to be in a relationship with someone whose values are very different from mine (for example, a highly religious person or a Republican).

However, those reasons would involve something which would cause continuing friction in the relationship (arguments, conflicts, etc.). Thus, I hope someone can help me understand why a non-masculine voice would be a barrier to a long-term relationship. Is it that you'd somehow feel ashamed to be partnered to someone with such a voice? Would this be a source of conflict in the relationship? Are you fearful of comments from family or friends?

I would admit that I prefer a masculine voice. However, of all the characteristics a person may have, it's one I would consider quite minor. People sometimes say to myself or to my partner that I'm lucky to have him (despite his non-masculine voice). I always agree heartily, adding "Yes, we're so lucky to have each other!" ❤️

When speaking about a fem voice, we must be clear that we are speaking of VOICE only, and not the "fem" characteristics and mannerism that might enjoin the Voice......A masculine presenting guy that simply has a less than masculine voice, is that OK ? Or a fem ACTING guy that has a deep, masculine voice, is that OK ? There are so many combos to consider, so simply discussing VOICE doesnt address what the real issue might be..... is it simply VOICE, or the other things that might couple with the voice ?

I think a visual attraction is the very first thing considered, because you might SEE the person before you even HEAR him..... If he passes the visual test, than your other senses come into play, like hearing, smell, touch etc....... So while this thread might have started innocently enough with a "simple" question, on inspection, its a bit more complicated....

Always trust your COCK....if it gets hard, the match just might work ?

3 hours ago, Suckrates said:

Always trust your COCK....if it gets hard, the match just might work ?

words of wisdom and true expert

4 hours ago, Suckrates said:

When speaking about a fem voice, we must be clear that we are speaking of VOICE only, and not the "fem" characteristics and mannerism that might enjoin the Voice......A masculine presenting guy that simply has a less than masculine voice, is that OK ?...

Well, what do you think when it comes to voice and mannerisms?

Topic brings to mind SATC S2 ‘the gay straight man’. Some 27 years ago; funny enough to remember. Charlotte dates pastry chef Stephan Bodean, but thinks he could be gay because of his mannerisms. He protests “I’m a pastry chef living in Chelsea. If I were gay, I’d be gay.”

They eventually have sex, successfully. She has a couple of orgasms with him, and the next morning he whips up buttermilk cranberry scones with lemon curd, I think, but then a mouse appears caught in a trap and both of them squeal and neither can deal with it, both equally terrified and squeamish, so that’s the dealbreaker for her and she dumps him.

But Dan Futterman as her brief Bo, also well known for writing and for other acting roles, eventually turns up as a guest character on Will & Grace, as a newly out homosexual man given, or forced to endure, a gayification makeover by Will and Jack.

From straight guy who seemed too gay to gay guy not gay enough.

3 hours ago, unicorn said:

Well, what do you think when it comes to voice and mannerisms?

To me, HE presents as "soft" which is diff. than Fem..... but I would definitely NOT consider him masculine..... He's kinda like Bambi....

2 hours ago, NormandyCoast said:

...But Dan Futterman as her brief Bo, also well known for writing and for other acting roles, eventually turns up as a guest character on Will & Grace, as a newly out homosexual man given, or forced to endure, a gayification makeover by Will and Jack...

That reminds me of earlier this month when hubbie and I went to a standup comedy routine by Hal Sparks. He played a not-so-masculine Michael on Queer as Folk. I'd always assumed he identified as gay. Imagine my surprise when I found out he was married to a woman. I guess those were the days in which no gay man was considered talented enough to play a gay man. My husband actually wanted to talk to him after the show to tell him that he helped my husband come out. However, he took off quickly after his routine. No interacting with fans, even in a small comedy venue.

Remotely possible there may have been a few more queers in QAF. Certainly Paige would be seen circulating the Church St bars, unfortunately not Harold. He went on to Deadwood but he could make my wood enlivened. 😛

[Where are they now, right?]

Clip of cast 8 seconds; might be sticky.

Any hint of femininity has me running a mile.

That includes looks and mannerisms, as well as voice. If I want someone feminine, I'll go to a lady bar. (Not gonna happen!)

I once offed a guy from one of the Bangkok bars. Friendly, masculine, handsome, great body, huge Isaan cock - perfect.

Imagine my surprise when, before leaving, he became all fem and sat down in front of the mirror for 15 minutes , putting on make-up!

He arrived masculine but left fully fem. He was off to a night club.

'Always trust your COCK....if it gets hard, the match just might work ?'

That sums it up perfectly.

Isaan … so, n/e Thailand?

Offed? You offered something, like maybe to coiff him? While he reapplied his Maybelline?

8 minutes ago, NormandyCoast said:

Isaan … so, n/e Thailand?

Offed? You offered something, like maybe to coiff them?

Edit crashed … While they reapplied their Maybelline?

Then it uncrashed. Is it just me?

10 minutes ago, NormandyCoast said:

Edit crashed … While they reapplied their Maybelline?

Then it uncrashed. Is it just me?

No!