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For sure I’m one of them...but my chips are on a different model not Babe and Nicky. Nice to hear there is a model who delivers a great off.

Now they are murder victims? Despite the brutality of their treatment, I highly doubt there was the intentional element of premeditated killing. For someone preaching political correctness and respect, you sure are happy to embellish the truth when it suits you. Is this what you mean by agenda-free word choice? Seriously this has gotten ridiculous. Please take your own advice and abandon this thread.

I am happy to say it, if it is pointed out in a productive tone. If you go back to reader’s first response, he accused me of taking some kind of “perverse pleasure” in the situation. I very much object to this type of malicious and personal attack, especially when the other party cannot conceive that other forum posters may come from countries/environments where certain phrases are simply not as politicised or loaded as he assumes them to be.

No I was not aware. Because, this appears to be the board for current affairs while the other board is for Gay interest. You just can’t let this go can you? Perhaps it has not even crossed your narrow mind that nothing about my original post was intended to be political, only your overly suspicious perception of it. You need to stop doubling down on the attacks now.

My point is, whether you approve of my choice of words or not, is not to lose sight of the big picture and tragedy here. Or that as you rightly pointed out, it helps our understanding of the boys we encounter. I was pretty amazed that this particular aspect was dismissed and the response was only to pick apart the use of the word “illegals” I am very open to receiving input to my choice of words if it is done nicely and respectfully, which you have, and I appreciate. Personally I don’t see anything wrong in saying “sell their bodies” which is factual and does not dismiss the person behind the job. This is literally splitting hairs over the associations words have for different people and cultures. But I can accept you may have a different view, and we can all agree on this and move on. I actually find more offensive the labels “prostitues” and “whores” which I think is even more demeaning and objectifies the entire person, yet have been used multiple times on this forum because others feel this is a factual description too. But you don’t see me jumping down someone else’s throat about this. I have no objection to being asked to alter my choice of words. But I don’t appreciate being attacked at all.

Ok I am sorry to wade back in here after saying I would not...and I fully agree with PeterRS. So this is absolutely my last post on this subject... only to clarify my position. But I did NOT associate these 39 dead with a proclivity for prostitution. I merely said now I understood in greater clarity the background and lack of choices of some Vietnamese boys I’ve met in the bars, as I know 2-3 who are from Ha Tinh, the same region as some of the 39. And yes, these boys are prostitutes. . No point being precious about it. This is not the forum for hand-wringing about prostitution, honestly. However I repeat, I did NOT say any of the deceased were prostitutes. Why can’t the 39 be illegal immigrants as well as victims of a vicious crime? This is fact. One does not cancel out the other, nor does it mean I do not feel complete and utter sympathy for them. If you only live life in shades of black and white, you will lead a very blinkered existence my friend.

I posted this with the simple intention of sharing news and mentioning to this forum (probably the only forum that would understand) why this news hit a little closer to home for me. I believe everyone else who read this focused on the very sad state of affairs, and you are the only one quarrelling over semantics. Get off your soapbox and stop using a news alert as a means of launching unprovoked attacks. Calling a spade a spade does not in anyway signify lack of compassion. You’re not exactly behaving in the most generous spirit yourself. This is all I have to say, so if you choose to keep nitpicking, the only reply you will get is the echo of your own loud opinions.

I am not sure why you think “illegals” is perverse, perhaps there is some implication that I am not aware of. I used the word (which to me seems completely neutral and has also been used repeatedly in varying and apolitical news articles internationally) because it felt appropriate to recap the situation, they were attempting to cross the UK border illegally. This is a fact. “Migrants” is not accurate as implies migration according to law, and apparently they were carrying fake documents which they also used to gain entry to other European countries. And “39 Vietnamese” I think is even more offensive particularly since it has not been absolutely established that all are from Vietnam alone. I suggest you focus on the big picture of this tragedy rather than nitpicking on what was only meant to be an effort at being succinct.

Essex lorry deaths: Appeal to Vietnamese over victims' identities A very tragic incident this week, 39 bodies were found inside a refrigerated lorry attempting to cross the UK border. As the story unravels it appears many were young Vietnamese from the Ha Tinh region. Many boys and girls from the Thai bar scene are from this impoverished region. I personally know at least two if not more. To learn that their fellow villagers were willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars to gamble their lives in illegal trafficking gives us an insight why others choose to sell their bodies in neighbouring Thailand.

I second the recommendation for Monzo. Once you get the hang of it, it’s very handy.

I am sorry to hear about your homophobic taxi driver. One would imagine that they would be exceedingly tolerant given that they have to interact with all types of passengers yet he chooses to take offence at a family unit. Isn’t this completely contrary to Buddhism?

99% sure it is him. Now I wonder if he can be offed....

I promise I was not stalking this thread waiting for your report LOL it is just good timing that you posted it as I logged in. My friend is in Bangkok this week and has been chatting with the other Moonlight models about Babe. Some funny insights were shared by them including exactly as you said, Babe is apparently very shy in the bedroom. The exact quote was (paraphrased from barboy English) “Babe doesn’t mind waving his cock around during photo shoots and on stage but suddenly gets shy showing it in a customer’s hotel room”. Also that he was too scared to top customers and the more experienced boys have been trying to teach him exactly what is involved. I hope you were the first beneficiary of this training! It sounds quite humorous that you warmed him up by showing him his own porno clips! That has to be a first.

Fantastic report. More to come I hope? Moonlight second show is always lacking, try to catch the first show on Friday or Saturday next time.

Have heard that Nicky has been spending more time lately working in a gay establishment in Ratchada area

And what other fortune telling or mind reading services do they offer?

Another case of sponsor getting tired of boy? Good for the rest of us, 32 is very cute!

vinapu...I look forward to seeing what you think when you are able to visit Paradiso in person. This mamasan might enjoy it too much!!!

I second the above request, I’d like to know when’s the best time to go in and survey all the boys at once instead of sitting through shows.

A very accurate assessment. I am fortunate that I’ve mainly encountered “C” mamasans...because I don’t bother to engage the first two types. Also I do bribe mamasans a little bit...I will buy them a drink and offer them a tip if I feel this will make them back off and stop acting pushy. On a side note, DB Paradiso has a really horrific ladyboy mamasan...the type that will sit with you and molest you if you let her!

That is his appeal to me too, you can’t tell at all he is a gogo boy. Outside walking around Surawong he looks like just another tourist from Japan or China, not even local. For this mamasan, I would quickly establish boundaries and give a firm No if you don’t like her suggestions or just ask to sit by yourself and observe without her company. There are plenty of solo visitors to the bars and many of them decline a mamasan’s company. You can call a mamasan over to help you engage a boy but that is not an open invitation to be at your side all evening. Also don’t offer a drink, that is a sure way to get the message across.

I am trying to guess which model since only a few were working yesterday, and hoping it is Mr Smart Agree with Drim you should do what you want and not feel pressured by mamasan. Your mamasan sounds quite pushy! Even keeping in mind they have to do their job and make “sales”

No harm getting the excitement (and overspending) our of your system on first night like vinapu says! I think our remarks were mainly in the spirit of discussion on this forum. I know I’ve had more than my fair share of excesses, there’s something in the air in Bangkok...

3 out of the 4 cops are better looking

Is the appointment with Babe for tonight? Good luck and we are awaiting a report of his “performance”!