@floridarob, oh don't act all HOLIER-THAN-THOU, tramp! 😀 You know the answer to this question just as much as I do.
@Canadianbtmguy, I've never been to colombia, but I do know that dick is plentiful in the DR. from what I'm reading on a lot of the STRAIGHT FORUMS, Colombia is PRETTY DANGEROUS and it's much harder to find dick there.
Never try to explain a homophobe they are homophobes, of course they are blinded to their bigotry. This is the same case with a different kind of hatred. This is the guy who justifies the Palestine genocide and is blind to his moral misery. Do not waste your time, it is better to ignore his posts.
I've had fun in both places - in Colombia, I went to Medellin, so I can't speak for other places. My Grindr never had so much action. I had more than 20 or more guys contacting me every day - sometimes taps, and often messages with photos. Some wanted money, others just wanted to meet. I was very selective because I was staying in an apartment with a door man and didn't want to look like a slut, so I had a few guys I saw more than once. One I paid, the other was free. Both were well-hung.
In the DR, in Santo Domingo, there are many ways to meet guys. I've used Grindr to meet guys for pay. I also enjoy Cine Lido, a very run down porno theater that is very hot, dirty and sweaty, but I always have a good time there for free. There are saunas in both places, but I have not been to them.
If you are looking to hire guys, I think both places are good destinations. The weather in Medellin is milder and it rains for a short time every day but it is more comfortable. In the DR, it's a great place to go if you want a tropical environment and want to sit by the pool or go to some of their beautiful beaches.
I had a different reaction about Colombia. I found the people there to be very warm and "gay" in the old meaning of the term: waitresses were literally singing as they brought my food out. People were making so much eye contact on the streets, on the buses, etc., that it was getting confusing. I had to remind myself that they are just friendly tropical people and no come-on was intended.
The DR is a much smaller country than the other two so the men are more limited in availability (no saunas with 20-30 garotos) and variety (almost exclusively caramel, moreno, or black). But the few men in this small country have HUGE things between their legs. If you leave the DR without bagging at least a couple 8-inchers, ask for your money back.
Yes, w3 is better, but better doesn't mean it's good, I live here in Brasília and I guarantee you that the golden times are over, even Goiânia can be better than Brasília.
In Medellin going rate is 100-150-200 mil COP (not USD!). Mileroticos guys/hot fit guys in high demand will ask 250 mil but will lower to 150 or 200 if you question the offer (politely). Rough street trade will take you to short time hotel for as low as 40-50 mil. + you pay around 20 mil for the room.
Any guy in CO insisting on 150 USD is out of his mind/not worth it. Just ignore and move on. Plenty of other fish out there.
You need to ask - but my experience they most likely will give you their whatsapp and you can take it from there one-on-one next day or whenever. They still solicit offline clients very much (possibly for a higher fee) - but think that being seen in saunas is sorta below their status now.
That said, in the past year, both in Rio and in SP saunas I've been repeatedly quoted 300-350 for a sauna programa by the guys who understood they are clearly above the rest in the sauna looks-wise - I never took those offers, plenty fish in the sea, but I did see others (mainly foreign tourists) taking them, so good for the guys as their approach paid off, not so good for the rest of us. That may give you a hint that the OF guys from those bars may quote you much different rates for private meetings than the sauna rates you may have got used to.
First of all, thanks to everyone on this forum. I've been reading it for years - could it be 15? - or definitely before my first ever trip to Brazil, which was three lifetimes ago. It provided me with a lot of info and a bit of a chuckle - and I'm sorry I was on silent all that time.
I almost registered when all non-members were kicked out a couple of years back, but then the gods above were merciful to allow us back for a part of it, and my laziness prevailed. Did I say again I'm sorry? - I am.
It's been a hell of a time to see Brazil (and other parts of the world) changing, the same way I was changing too: I came to Rio for the first time 14-15 years ago, totally hated it (the real to USD at 1.6 at that time didn't help), then came back a couple of years later, then there was one whole winter I spent in Brazil traveling to every corner of it (locally, it was summer of course) - and the rest is history. I traveled especially often in the past 4 years throughout the pandemic - it was pretty much one of the only two countries always open (along with Mexico - but I prefer Brazil), and then there were incredibly cheap tickets, initially in 2020-2021 basically free, then just very cheap (that loophole has recently closed, but stayed open for the incredible three years). I was traveling around the world throughout the pandemic pretty much as I usually do, so it passed me by (and by some kinky luck, covid passed me too - never had it) - and I think I was back in Brazil as early as Sep 2020 I think, and then visited about twice a year.
So that historic context aside (and again - thanks to everyone) - several observations on this trip. This year, I'm on a sabbatical, so traveled a bit more than usual - I think I've been to Rio four times in 2023. Good memories - first time Carnival, first time the New Year's Eve a week ago. Amazing.
Brazil - and saunas - are defo different not only from what it was 10-15 years ago, but from pre-covid too. I still enjoy 117 and 202 very much - but as some others on this forum, I wonder how long they will last. It's not that apps are killing them - Onlyfans are doing that. The standard of the guys in 117 and 202 has visibly dipped - I'm still satisfied very much every evening I go there, but the standard of the guys there say in 2010s is no longer there - they are doing Onlyfans, or Rhyheim's porn, or it's easier to travel to Europe to make better money there than it was 10-15 yrs ago. A case in point, a guy I know, Henry - he started doing Onlyfans with some good success about two years ago but he was still in saunas maybe 2-3 nights a week. He's a stunner, his Onlyfans is successful, I saw him at the Rio gay pride in November as a part of the model entertainers crowd, but he's not in the saunas anymore.
The best guys in 117/202 are now those who fly in from the provinces for a couple of weeks to make money - like Walton from Fortaleza, he's another stunner, and he does some stints in Rio for two-three weeks - I just saw him yesterday in Fortaleza, and he's flying back to Rio again on Weds.
I also started to really really like Point. 202 seems such a warmer, more humane, better organised sauna (and aircon in suites works all the time, unlike in 117). I really like the vibe, the atmosphere, that warm feeling of a crowd near the bar - and moreover, there are some absolute gems of a guy who go to 202 only, and never to 117. I guess, Junior scouts them somehow, and even though a lot of the guys work both saunas, some 202-exclusive guys are marvels. One of my favourites in the past several visits is David (or the correct spelling he put into my phone contacts, Deyved) - just a stunning guy with an incredible smile and an incredible chemistry. He comes only to 202, and only a couple of nights a week at most, but he's one of my highlights. Stunning body, stunning technique and the attention to your needs - for a straight guy - he's also never hiked his fee to 200 as everybody else by the end of 2023 in Rio and stays at 150 (still gets more from me). He saw me at the reception when I came to 202 for the first time on this trip, hugged me, kissed me, and then said "don't come with me now, I will be for longer today, hire me towards the end of the night, and I will give you the biggest cumshot possible". And he did.
With all that said, 202 is losing ground against 117 - or at least that's my impression over the past couple of years. 202 is back to their two big nights - Monday and Wednesday - but lost all other days. I still remember fabulous Fridays at Point - that was their good night too - but then two or even three times I came to Point on a Friday, and it was totally dead, like Elvis dead. Then, next Friday I came to 117 - and everyone was there, and the house was buzzing. At 117, even slow nights are acceptable, but at 202 if it's dead it's no shit dead. 117 attempted to hijack Wednesdays - it hasn't worked so far. So 202 has still solid Mondays and Wednesdays, but the rest of the week it's 117 - even though I'd have preferred it differently. Even this past week between Xmas and NY, 117 was insanely busy, on some nights the line was to the street (never seen that before), whereas 202's Mons and Weds were good and busy but not over the top busy as 117 was all that week. (Still, last Weds I was #17 in the line for the suites at Point at 8pm - so it was still a good night - however, several boys told me it had been busier before and not anymore). So why this is happening, I don't know - as I'd like 202 to thrive, as I just like them, but it's not terribly easy for them it seems. (Interesting that from next Sunday they will be open on Suns too - I'd be keen to know if they are able to break the 117's Sunday monopoly).
Meio Mundo - where do I start. Unlike many posters on the forum, I actually quite liked Meio Mundo back in the day. It has this no-nonsense down-to-earth vibe that was a welcome occasional break from the 117 Men's Health posturing. Yes, it was dirty, but it was kinky dirty. During the pandemic at its new location, Meio Mundo started to drift from its previous "favela sauna" concept to the "drag queen theatre night" concept - that's where it lost the boys, and clients. Still, several of my experiences at Meio Mundo were golden. I think it was two years ago during the pandemic when I came to Meio Mundo because they were the first to start live sex shows in Rio (inbetween the long drag queen sets). It is there where I met Lucas - he was 18 at that time, stunning, with an 8-pack and a shy smile - the definition of a lanky twink top. A friend of his, a typical Meio Mundo favela-style garoto. brought Lucas with him - it was his first time in the sauna. Lucas was so obviously head and shoulders above everybody there that the Meio Mundo owner immediately brought him a free caipirinha and started to fawn over him - the guy was gold. I offered him a programa straight away, and Lucas was initially timid, still with a caipirinha in the suite, not sure what and how to do - sex was great. I was his first ever client, and I think he's likely straight, he's sort of a fixture at 117 now, and we hooked up last week, two years later, for the first time since that forst meeting - Lucas remembered our first sex, I laughed "well, you looked very different from other Meio Mundo garotos on that day", he laughed even harder saying "no doubt about that". He doesn't go to Meio Mundo anymore, and I didn't visit on any of my trips this year - their IG is all full of drag queens, no more live sex shows.
But now to live sex shows. The biggest change I've seen in Rio throughout the pandemic is the explosion of Berlin-style cruising bars. Taurus Bar is just 5 min walk from 117 and is most resourceful of them all. Then there is Seven Bar, the new Cruising Parada bar, something else in Centro, something else in Botafogo, etc. They are mostly non-GP cruising bars, but what they do is they usually haul a bunch of Onlyfans models (2 on a rainy day, 5 on a good day, I've been to a night with 8 guest Onlyfans models) - they are billed as the "interactive sex show" but pretty much 15 sec after it starts it becomes very interactive, and Onlyfans models have sex with all who paid 35 or 40 or whatever reais as cover - it's a free-for-all 40-50 person orgy with a bunch of Onlyfans models in the middle (that's how Taurus Bar does it, and I see it as a valid investment of my 35-40 reais). These are still very local-geared places, and the vibe is VERY different from the GP saunas, but more of these places open, and it's quite an experience.
I'm in Fortaleza now where such bars equally exploded - there are several of them - and they are all strictly non-GP, just a general orgy. As other saunas across Brazil, California is struggling to keep pace with Onlyfans, apps, etc. - it is still a very fine sauna, and I had lots of sex in the past few days, but as in Rio and SP, the top-tier gobsmacking talent is no longer there. Still, some amazing guys - humble, polite, good in sex, but the Greek gods are gone. There was a good guy from Fortaleza, Wesley, whom I met at 117 after Christmas - I told him I would be coming to Fortaleza and he said let's keep the line open privately, as he said he's not working in saunas back home in Fortaleza - he says he does underwear modeling on IG (whatever that means) but saunas are no-no. I could have easily seen someone like him at California say 7-8 years ago - but that's basically a trend. Onlyfans, IG and private appointments over whatsapp.
California in Fortaleza still the only GP sauna. I've been to Dragon Club several times this year - easily the best-equipped sauna in all of Brazil, but usually just a couple of GPs, and mostly the jaded ones. They have some interesting events - I've been to their Mr Dragon competition where incredibly beautiful guys where on stage, but they did not mingle or even stay after the competition and the house emptied out. This weekend, I've been to a free food slash dance party at Dragon starting at 1400 (!) on Sunday - they had free feijoada and caipirinha till 1600, and then some professional Axe dancing for two hours from 1400 till 1600. I arrived at 1530, and Dragon was full of people, munching and drinking. The (professional straight) dancers were really great but were visibly not too comfortable performing in a gay sauna for towel-clad people - some 80mins into their performance they were pressured to lose T-shirts, and they were visibly uncomfortable with one dancer mouthing "no" - they did lose T-shirts for one song and promptly put it back right for the next number. There were maybe three, max four jaded GPs in this packed house - but I quickly left for California where a couple of those Dragon GPs ended up too afterwards. My only guess why this is not happening for Dragon - high entry fee for garotos?
I'm going to Recife next where there were two very OK saunas - not GP-focused but where I still found some incredible freelancing GPs in the past couple of years, so I look forward to checking them out again.
I guess it is shocking and hard to process for some inhabitants of rich countries that they are not as wanted in less developed countries as they think they should be.
Depends a lot if you want free Grindr boys or GPs. In terms of free boys, Colombia offers more diversity and many Venezuelans are available too. Don’t even both with free Dominicans, as most grindr-like apps are location based, those who live in affluent neighborhoods (ex close to blue mall) are all fat and old. If you choose to pay, then again, Colombia offers more diversity but GPs in DR are better endowed.
I have not been to the Dominican Republic but I have been twice to Colombia and Brazil at least 5 times. So all I can compare is Colombia versus Brazil.
Colombia: People are less warm and inviting and that makes it harder to find guys randomly like you do in Brazil. When you do find guys or go to the sex spots you will realize that the guys on average are shorter, less buff, and less endowed(gifted) than the guys in Brazil. The best gay city in Colombia is Bogota due to Theatron and Gigolo Erotic House and other venues. Plus Bogota has a whole gay area similar to Republica in Sao Paulo.
Take the opportunity to get to know the regional culture of each state and also the local cuisine, which is delicious, especially that of Bahia and Minas Gerais. You can find typical restaurants in all regions, Uber, Ifood are apps that have made your life easier here too.
Avoid showing off your belongings in public, avoid going to communities (favelas) alone, be careful with your belongings in tourist places, in the northeast (Salvador, Fortaleza, Recife) it is hot all year round, so bring light clothing if you are going to the southeast or south of the country (São Paulo, Rio, Belo Horizonte, Porto Alegre, Curitiba, Florianópolis) depending on the time of year it can get quite cold, from the end of May to August the weather gets cold in these regions, so you may need a coat.
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