sglad Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I don't understand the reluctance of some boys to do over night (as expressed in several posts), wife, kids, roommates, that all can be arranged and would well be worth the extra money. But if the OP wants LT for the same price as ST (do I read that right?), then I understand the boys. I do, quite easily. Whether the extra money from not being with our wives, kids and friends is worth it boils down to how we value our family and friends. Each person is different and perhaps projecting our own values on them to explain their decisions may not be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 What would you do if you were in their shoes? . Whether the extra money from not being with our wives, kids and friends is worth it boils down to how we value our family and friends. all true but if they committed themselves to time frame and agreed on compensation they should keep their side of bargain. Anything less than that smells dishonesty and only excuse could be if client made some grossly unreasonable requests like golden or brown showers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest myskipper Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 i never been to pattaya before, the price there this cheap? only half of the price in bkk? i do came across with boys who not willing to saty over night, even i pay more, they still prefer ST, which i also don't understand why.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianPFC Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 All I want is up front honesty. Wrong country! Alexx and 1moRussian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianPFC Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I do, quite easily. Whether the extra money from not being with our wives, kids and friends is worth it boils down to how we value our family and friends. Each person is different and perhaps projecting our own values on them to explain their decisions may not be helpful. When chatting with Thai or overhearing Thais chatting, "mai mi tang ไม่มีตัง" (tang is slang for money, short for satang) often comes up. The one thing that is most missing everywhere, everyone, is money. They can stay with their wife, kids, friends tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, and the entire next week and get a financial bonus for long time today. Go stay with your wife, kids, friends tonight, but don't ask me for money for food or whatever! vinapu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1moRussian Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 When chatting with Thai or overhearing Thais chatting, "mai mi tang ไม่มีตัง" (tang is slang for money, short for satang) often comes up. The one thing that is most missing everywhere, everyone, is money. They can stay with their wife, kids, friends tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, and the entire next week and get a financial bonus for long time today. Go stay with your wife, kids, friends tonight, but don't ask me for money for food or whatever! But does this "ไม่มีตัง" move Thai mind to do something actively? Or just go with the flow passively bitching/chatting about "ไม่มีตัง"? Especially with all these sabai and sanuk mindset? I understand, it is a generalization, but anyway... ChristianPFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Wrong country! That is why I help them on the path to honesty by specifying the penalties for cutting me down to short time (at least on the nights when I really want long time). Then to be fair, I think the honesty of Thai money boys is above that of money boys in most other countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglad Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Go stay with your wife, kids, friends tonight, but don't ask me for money for food or whatever! Geez, at least you're consistent. Have you ever read Oliver Twist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ryanasia Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 When chatting with Thai or overhearing Thais chatting, "mai mi tang ไม่มีตัง" (tang is slang for money, short for satang) often comes up. The one thing that is most missing everywhere, everyone, is money. They can stay with their wife, kids, friends tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, and the entire next week and get a financial bonus for long time today. Go stay with your wife, kids, friends tonight, but don't ask me for money for food or whatever! my theory might have been wrong lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travellerdave Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Looking back to my first visits to Pattaya starting in 2001 I would say there has been a gradual change in the attitude of money boys. This thread focuses on tactics to prevent them from making an early exit from our bed having been engaged for a LT. I recall that in those days the difficulty was getting them to leave in the morning. They often tried to stake a claim by leaving clothes and in particular a tooth brush which staked a claim. To have a daddy was the objective. Thais I believe we're much poorer than now so young ones flocked to Pattaya from Isaan where money was available from farangs to increase their standard of living hugely. Now they have other options to achieve this and if they enter the commercial sex industry they try to engage on their terms rather than ours. Aux1010 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianPFC Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Have you ever read Oliver Twist? No. No Thai ever complained about not having enough time to spend with friends and family. But they all complain about lack of money. Here is the chance to earn that lacking money, and they don't take it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Thais I believe we're much poorer than now so young ones flocked to Pattaya from Isaan where money was available from farangs to increase their standard of living hugely. Now they have other options to achieve this and if they enter the commercial sex industry they try to engage on their terms rather than ours. Definitely, a lot has changed since back then, and that's an important factor. A Thai friend of mine who came to Bangkok from Isaan in 2001 could easily find work, but wasn't paid very well. When his younger brother made the same move 10 years later, he had many more options - also because his older brother helped him get a college education. I've seen that time and again. They built their parents a new house back home, own cars and have a pretty good life - all without sex work or sugar daddies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Although I rarely do LT I make exceptions if I really enjoy his company (attitude, mostly) and if he's the one to suggest it. I agree that most Bangkok guys don't for a variety of reasons. That they can pass on the extra cash says something about the overall rise in their income that allows them to make decisions based on opportunity costs. If they stay overnight with me they can't meet friends for some after work sanuk. Or they simply prefer their own place for the night, whether it's a shared room, space above their bar or home with the wife. I have to remind myself that this is often a second job and they need the sleep--something very high on any Thai's punch list. Watched this recent report about the rising fortunes of Thailand's northeast region from where many of the guys who populate the bars and massage shops come. It suggests to me that job opportunities at home may slow the migration to Bangkok and Pattaya. From NHK Newsline https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/editors/1/brighterfutureonthehorizon/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianPFC Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Thais can sleep any time, anywhere. It's probably rather the choice between instantly spending the ST for some sanuk with friends, versus overnight and getting LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuelmendez Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 thanks for the opinions, friends. i just went back from my 4 days business trip at bangkok. i just offed 2 boys during my trip. both keen for ST only, reason they have early morning routine works. one of my boys almost to LT because both us feel drunk and drowzy, at 12 midnight... both of us fall asleep side by side for while, and awake half hour later. i think we both comfortable to sleep together... haha manuelmendez and vinapu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ryanasia Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Wrong country! Not if you are engaging in self delusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
