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Bisexual Guy Traveling Soon to Rio w GF, Advice?

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Actually, I specifically answered the two things you asked me - when I was there and where I met the bi guys I hooked up with. As I said, both on the beaches and in saunas.

While Brazil culture exudes a machismo in public, I found that to be absolutely not the case in private. That was just my experience, I can't speak for other people. The sauna guys I met who suggested a threesome with a girl/friend did so while making it clear that they did not want money for such an exchange. I wasn't interested in a bisexual scene at the time, but I did have many non sexual encounters with sauna guys outside of the saunas. I would put that down to my relative youth at the time and the fact that I was a good looking, gym fit guy with no expectations in Brazil beyond those of most adventurous travelers. I went to the saunas out of curiosity, more than anything else. I remember a a hot garoto approaching me and asking if I would be interesting in joining him and a young local client for a threesome. The client had seen me and wanted to pay for me to join a threesome, lol. I said I didn't need to be paid to participate, as they were both very good looking and I was pretty sure a fun time would be had. Indeed it was.

One of the things I have always enjoyed about this forum is the diversity of experiences, advice and stories shared. Like Numazu's amazing trip reports, which detail both his paid play and also the genuine friendships and connections he has formed in Brazil. I've had very similar experiences with guys I met in Eastern Europe and Russia. Sometimes a connection that started via an escort website/bar/Instagram has quickly evolved into something more akin to friends with benefits. I've had guys fly themselves (on their own dime) to the US and other destinations in Europe to spend time with me. I know that's far from the "norm", but it's the combination of such diverse shared experiences that has brings folk like Moonwalker onto this forum seeking advice.

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Hard to understand why people get testy on here when a question is asked. Wish you guys would stop fighting me and each other! It was just an innocent question about the best way to do this. I was also concerned about possible health risks doing this through a sauna.

I haven't been to Brazil so I can't weigh in on the dispute between badboy and pylonguy, except it would seem to me that in a macho culture the men wouldn't have any problem fucking another guy's gf and might even get off on it, because it's competitive or w/e. Actually that's why I thought Brazil might be a good place to try this (besides the fact that both me and my gf find Brazilian guys sexy).

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On 2/15/2019 at 2:44 PM, pylonguy71 said:

I would put that down to my relative youth at the time and the fact that I was a good looking, gym fit guy with no expectations in Brazil beyond those of most adventurous travelers. I went to the saunas out of curiosity, more than anything else. I remember a a hot garoto approaching me and asking if I would be interesting in joining him and a young local client for a threesome.

 Interesting...sounds almost too good to be true BUT Ill take it at face value...

While 35 in the sauna scene is not all that youthful, I have no idea how you look so I understand that you were very attractive to those guys that were approaching you around the beaches and the sauna scene...

I can understand the getting hit on by clients in the saunas who like what they like but what do you look like OR did you look like to make guys who were bi want to offer up their girlfriends to you...

Do you mind describing how you looked at 35?

I started going to Brazil in my early 20s and have definitely seen clients hit on other clients or offer to pay them...(I have gotten a few of those weird stares as well) but just based on the general demographics of the guys in the sauna scenes, you would have to be an exceedingly attractive and fit 35 yr old for that to happen...(you are competing with 20 yr olds who have amazing genetics)

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5 minutes ago, floridarob said:

Haven't you heard about this thing called sex....is done for pleasure sometimes ;)

They both said they would be up for it...I've been known to do it for free, lol

Sex is always pleasurable for me and is often free....even in Rio...

BUT we are not talking about me versus what pylonguy71 happened...

His experiences OR more what he said he experienced at 35 in Brazil was in question...

Not sure where you are OR if the guys you are with are willing to do if for free...

Not sure who questioned would you be willing to do it for free...

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In my experience from the DR and in Florida the straight/bi guy/rentboy is usually willing (and happy) to fuck her for free as long as I still take out regular one-on-one for pay sessions with him, or pay for the times when we share his cock lol. I imagine a similar arrangement can be made in Brazil. A straight not-for-pay guy from the beach is also a possibility but the rentboy route is more convenient. I guess I'll see! Pylonguy and floridarob thanks for the advice.

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1 hour ago, moonwalker said:

In my experience from the DR and in Florida the straight/bi guy/rentboy is usually willing (and happy) to fuck her for free as long as I still take out regular one-on-one for pay sessions with him, or pay for the times when we share his cock lol. I imagine a similar arrangement can be made in Brazil. A straight not-for-pay guy from the beach is also a possibility but the rentboy route is more convenient. I guess I'll see! Pylonguy and floridarob thanks for the advice.

So, we’re back to paying for the guys to fuck your girlfriend if you are in the picture — which was exactly everyone’s point (or at least mine and @badboy‘s) that you vociferously protested).

You’ve been posting on this site since November 2017 about Rio male escorts and saunas, and in some of those posts, you’ve claimed that you have already been to Rio and like going there. So, now, all of a sudden, there is confusion about what happens at Rio beaches and with sauna boys, sex workers and escorts?

If you like going to Rio so much, and you’re such an experienced cuckolder who knows how men will respond to your request, then just go and take this newfound girlfriend of yours. Quit the obvious trolling.

 

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5 hours ago, SolaceSoul said:

So, we’re back to paying for the guys to fuck your girlfriend if you are in the picture — which was exactly everyone’s point (or at least mine and @badboy‘s) that you vociferously protested).

You’ve been posting on this site since November 2017 about Rio male escorts and saunas, and in some of those posts, you’ve claimed that you have already been to Rio and like going there. So, now, all of a sudden, there is confusion about what happens at Rio beaches and with sauna boys, sex workers and escorts?

If you like going to Rio so much, and you’re such an experienced cuckolder who knows how men will respond to your request, then just go and take this newfound girlfriend of yours. Quit the obvious trolling.

 

One thing is obvious from your many posts on my topic here and especially from this last one. One, you have low reading comprehension/IQ. Two, you (and possibly badboy) are REALLY angry about something in this topic. Not sure what it could be but suggest you look into meds or w/e, being worked up so much is bad for the complexion

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16 minutes ago, moonwalker said:

One thing is obvious from your many posts on my topic here and especially from this last one. One, you have low reading comprehension/IQ. Two, you (and possibly badboy) are REALLY angry about something in this topic. Not sure what it could be but suggest you look into meds or w/e, being worked up so much is bad for the complexion

I’d expect a much snappier, wittier comeback from such a cunty cuck. It’s pretty clear that your girlfriend wears the pants in your relationship. Maybe you should just let her do all the talking / writing instead.

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3 hours ago, SolaceSoul said:

I’d expect a much snappier, wittier comeback from such a cunty cuck. It’s pretty clear that your girlfriend wears the pants in your relationship. Maybe you should just let her do all the talking / writing instead.

Really classy response Solace. Did you practice writing it first?

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1 hour ago, Lucky said:

Really classy response Solace. Did you practice writing it first?

There you go again - writing inflammatory posts. 

Last week, you attacked what I wrote.  Others members of the forum pointed out to you that you misinterpreted what I had written.    

You have a proclivity for being excessively and unreasonably critical of other members for seemingly no reason.  

Is it really so difficult to ignore a post you do not like?

I realize you have written "goodbye" letters to this forum and to the "other site" many times only to come back with civility that lasted only a few days each time.  

Rather than write nasty posts in response to other members or goodbye letters, why not just be nice or say nothing if you do not like a post.  

It really would make your life more pleasant.  

 

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On 2/10/2019 at 8:15 AM, moonwalker said:

I'm bi (I'll explain soon why this is relevant). Traveling soon to Rio after Carnaval. Been reading the forum/curious to try this for a while.

I'll be coming with my girlfriend. We're both 25 and she's adventurous. Basically she likes Brazilian/Latin guys (we both do lol) so we're looking for a guy around our age or younger, who fits the bill of what she likes. Which is basically tan/brown skin, muscular/fit/sixpack handsome and a big dick. Sounds clicheed I know it, but it's what we want/like. I'd be looking mainly to watch while my gf has fun with him, at least to start with. We'll be spending six weeks there so an ongoing arrangement would be great if first time works out.

What I wanted to ask was advice, first of all, is this normal/common in Brazil now or will it be seen as weird of us as a thing to look for? In America it's definitely something that's not so unusual right now, especially among young couples to try out, and a relatively normal "kink." But I'm not sure how it is in Brazil or if we'd be seen as weirdos to try it out/ask/look for it.

Second, I was thinking of finding a guy for her from club 117? Not sure if this is the best way, so I wanted to get advice. I think it would definitely be possible (I think?) to find a guy on the beach to do this (she's quite attractive/fit so it's not like she'd have trouble getting a guy lol) but given all our requirements it might be more convenient to try to find someone at 117 from what I've seen. I'm asking if you think this is a decent idea and I mean also in regards to SAFETY and also doability, in all ways.

I know my question is somewhat unusual for this forum maybe but I thought there might be posters here who could give advice or if we'd be going about this the wrong way.

I have no idea why people can’t answer a question on face value and start fighting instead of giving their view and leaving it at that  

@moonwalker, I really don’t think you will have any problem.  It will work in the same way as in the US, maybe even more easily: Just find a guy that your girlfriend finds attractive, on the beach, in a bar or in a club, and see if he speaks a bit of English, and start a conversation. You can use love hotels for the action, they are in all the key spots.

If you really want to chose a guy from clube 117, it should be just as easy, most guys are bi or straight, so fucking a 25 yo girl is probably going to be offered for free. Or for R$50, which is less than US$15, if you could pay for the flight, you can afford that. 

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25 minutes ago, Tartegogo said:

I have no idea why people can’t answer a question on face value and start fighting instead of giving their view and leaving it at that  

@moonwalker, I really don’t think you will have any problem.  It will work in the same way as in the US, maybe even more easily: Just find a guy that your girlfriend finds attractive, on the beach, in a bar or in a club, and see if he speaks a bit of English, and start a conversation. You can use love hotels for the action, they are in all the key spots.

If you really want to chose a guy from clube 117, it should be just as easy, most guys are bi or straight, so fucking a 25 yo girl is probably going to be offered for free. Or for R$50, which is less than US$15, if you could pay for the flight, you can afford that. 

Good luck with that...

You are setting this guy up for failure especially if they dont speak Portuguese...

While finding guys to fuck his girl definitely wont be a problem...Guys outside of sauna boys okay with him watching and wanting to interact is HIGHLY unlucky..(We are talking about BI friendly guys here...not just freaky straight guys who want pussy)

While most of the sauna boys may be bi....Rio really doesn't have a huge BI scene like some cities in the states where guys are doing threesomes but not into the sauna or selling dick scene...

As the song goes, PLAY AT YOUR OWN RISK...

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1 hour ago, Badboy81 said:

You are setting this guy up for failure especially if they don't speak Portuguese...

..

 

Exactly - 

Very few garotos in Brazil speak English. 

Some know a few words but setting up a complicated arrangement like is being pursued is destined to go wrong considering the language barrier.   

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10 hours ago, Tartegogo said:

I have no idea why people can’t answer a question on face value and start fighting instead of giving their view and leaving it at that  

@moonwalker, I really don’t think you will have any problem.  It will work in the same way as in the US, maybe even more easily: Just find a guy that your girlfriend finds attractive, on the beach, in a bar or in a club, and see if he speaks a bit of English, and start a conversation. You can use love hotels for the action, they are in all the key spots.

If you really want to chose a guy from clube 117, it should be just as easy, most guys are bi or straight, so fucking a 25 yo girl is probably going to be offered for free. Or for R$50, which is less than US$15, if you could pay for the flight, you can afford that. 

thanks gogo, I'll come and wing it, probably try both. Been curious about 117 for a long time so I'll try it for myself anyway. But what you say is pretty much what I'd expect.

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On 2/18/2019 at 11:53 AM, Badboy81 said:

 Interesting...sounds almost too good to be true BUT Ill take it at face value...

While 35 in the sauna scene is not all that youthful, I have no idea how you look so I understand that you were very attractive to those guys that were approaching you around the beaches and the sauna scene...

I can understand the getting hit on by clients in the saunas who like what they like but what do you look like OR did you look like to make guys who were bi want to offer up their girlfriends to you...

Do you mind describing how you looked at 35?

 

Sorry, I haven't been on here for a few days so only just saw this. I always find it a little embarrassing to rate my own looks, but I can say that I have always looked much younger. Now, I'm late forties and without fail when I meet someone new through life or work, they look shocked when I tell them my age and say something like "wow, I really thought you were early to mid thirties!" so I guess at 35 I probably looked like I was 28 or so. I've always worked out and when I was in Rio I was in close to the best shape of my life. A few of the actually gay sauna guys (because as we know most of them are gay4pay or bi) spoke with me and said "you know you don't need to come to saunas and pay for sex, you are hot enough to get any guy you want for free". I explained that I loved the thrill of the saunas and had no problem "helping" a guy out with some money lol. So, I hope that describes me a little, but I could add I have very, very blue eyes and I think South American guys really like that feature. And I'm pretty fortunate "down below" - maybe not Brazilian sized but close enough to compete hehe.

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4 hours ago, pylonguy71 said:

Sorry, I haven't been on here for a few days so only just saw this. I always find it a little embarrassing to rate my own looks, but I can say that I have always looked much younger. Now, I'm late forties and without fail when I meet someone new through life or work, they look shocked when I tell them my age and say something like "wow, I really thought you were early to mid thirties!" so I guess at 35 I probably looked like I was 28 or so. I've always worked out and when I was in Rio I was in close to the best shape of my life. A few of the actually gay sauna guys (because as we know most of them are gay4pay or bi) spoke with me and said "you know you don't need to come to saunas and pay for sex, you are hot enough to get any guy you want for free". I explained that I loved the thrill of the saunas and had no problem "helping" a guy out with some money lol. So, I hope that describes me a little, but I could add I have very, very blue eyes and I think South American guys really like that feature. And I'm pretty fortunate "down below" - maybe not Brazilian sized but close enough to compete hehe.

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On 2/10/2019 at 8:15 AM, moonwalker said:

I'm bi (I'll explain soon why this is relevant). Traveling soon to Rio after Carnaval. Been reading the forum/curious to try this for a while.

I'll be coming with my girlfriend. We're both 25 and she's adventurous. Basically she likes Brazilian/Latin guys (we both do lol) so we're looking for a guy around our age or younger, who fits the bill of what she likes. Which is basically tan/brown skin, muscular/fit/sixpack handsome and a big dick. Sounds clicheed I know it, but it's what we want/like. I'd be looking mainly to watch while my gf has fun with him, at least to start with. We'll be spending six weeks there so an ongoing arrangement would be great if first time works out.

What I wanted to ask was advice, first of all, is this normal/common in Brazil now or will it be seen as weird of us as a thing to look for? In America it's definitely something that's not so unusual right now, especially among young couples to try out, and a relatively normal "kink." But I'm not sure how it is in Brazil or if we'd be seen as weirdos to try it out/ask/look for it.

Second, I was thinking of finding a guy for her from club 117? Not sure if this is the best way, so I wanted to get advice. I think it would definitely be possible (I think?) to find a guy on the beach to do this (she's quite attractive/fit so it's not like she'd have trouble getting a guy lol) but given all our requirements it might be more convenient to try to find someone at 117 from what I've seen. I'm asking if you think this is a decent idea and I mean also in regards to SAFETY and also doability, in all ways.

I know my question is somewhat unusual for this forum maybe but I thought there might be posters here who could give advice or if we'd be going about this the wrong way.

What a fucking fraud...you have been poking around since 2017 asking the same shit dude...

At 25, you are old enough to understand the concept of keeping it real...

Had I looked over your profile, I would not have even wasted my time answering your question...

Something tells me you are full of shit...Not 25..Not Hot....Not BI...No girlfriend...

Sad...And no need to even reply...Its just sad...

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1 hour ago, Badboy81 said:

What a fucking fraud...you have been poking around since 2017 asking the same shit dude...

At 25, you are old enough to understand the concept of keeping it real...

Had I looked over your profile, I would not have even wasted my time answering your question...

Something tells me you are full of shit...Not 25..Not Hot....Not BI...No girlfriend...

Sad...And no need to even reply...Its just sad...

Ah, you’re starting to learn how this board (and the internet) works.

There are a number of posters here who claim to be much younger than they are in real life. And much hotter. And much richer. And sometimes much more traveled. And even much bi-er. 

Protip: if you’re going to insist on making up a false (or exaggerated) description of yourself, you might want to make sure you can’t ever be identified at any of the places you post about. The walls have eyes. Even in foreign lands.

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8 hours ago, Badboy81 said:

What a fucking fraud...you have been poking around since 2017 asking the same shit dude...

At 25, you are old enough to understand the concept of keeping it real...

Had I looked over your profile, I would not have even wasted my time answering your question...

Something tells me you are full of shit...Not 25..Not Hot....Not BI...No girlfriend...

Sad...And no need to even reply...Its just sad...

I've been curious about Brazilian guys and curious about visiting Rio/saunas since last year and even before. Been reading the forum for a while. Never did make it to Rio. If you don't want to post on here or give advice, please don't. You're low IQ like your friend and have nothing useful to say anyway. Kindly fuck off?

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5 hours ago, SolaceSoul said:

Ah, you’re starting to learn how this board (and the internet) works.

There are a number of posters here who claim to be much younger than they are in real life. And much hotter. And much richer. And sometimes much more traveled. And even much bi-er. 

Protip: if you’re going to insist on making up a false (or exaggerated) description of yourself, you might want to make sure you can’t ever be identified at any of the places you post about. The walls have eyes. Even in foreign lands.

You're just low IQ dude. Give it a rest.

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