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Haha, i was also nervous the first time i go there, not used to 30+ hunks giving me flirty looks haha. Instead of going to the restroom, i focus on the card and manager instead lol

Agreed, which is why its always better value to go more than just hj in full service gay shop. Minimum tip is to discourage customer who just come for massage and nothing else. A high tip just for hj also to discourage customer to just go for hj, since like u said, a normal massage place can give hj for just 500, though u proba ly cant choose your masseur, and mostlikely the masseur there isnt a looker with nice body.

Yup, which is 400 more than minimum. Im not sure what service was provided though. But arena price range is lower indeed, since the facilities isnt as good as prince/vck/myhero. http://arenaspa-bangkok.com/what-is-the-minimum-tips-最低消費是什麼 The link above spelt out the minimum tips and what it entitles. Given the post date is 2011, they havent raise their price at all since then.

The minimum tip is only for hj i think, which is why its usually lower than full service shop like prince etc. So if service was more than just hj, as asnstudent did, u should give more than minimum

Seems like they try to give u a ride again asnstudent. Good for you for not budging and take a different boy. If i have time, id go somewhere else and change my appointment to a diff day, and if it happened again, cross that place off my list. I think what happened is the two mamasan didnt coordinate, or they are competing with each other to get customers, and it could be solved easily if customer booking is being handle by one person and all mamasan need to report to the person when getting a booking. And of course that one person who manages the booking also need to have a way to inform all mamasan which boy is taken already by booking. Its a pity that such a simple system, if followed, would avoid all that frustration. I can only imagine how it was during songkran time. If u want muscular guys for massage (face maybe not as good as prince masseur though) u probably will have better luck in arena. I cant say anything about prince but the two times i tried arena, i left with smiles on my face

Given that bangkok, especially silom area, isnt really a family area for vacation, its certainly rare to even see kids with straight couple around silom hehe. But you comes from iconsiam, like your report said, the wrong side of the river. I believe icon siam is the only big shopping mall on that side.

Yup. And seems like he is open for another trip too lol. For now, back to working for both of us. Btw, he already quit working in the bar and have a day job, and seems to be only meeting his regular customers from time to time. Definitely feel like having a BF experience with him.

Quick summary of how it went. He was with me 4 days 3 night, 2 night in a nice hotel ive been meaning to try, an hour from city near the beach. I did splurge on the hotel a bit, and he and I really enjoyed the hotel a lot. Whats not to like, private pool (yup we had fun in it), sea view, private steam room (and in here too lol). I find that i actually prefer morning sex to night sex, as after dinner, we are pretty much spent and tired from day sight seeing and just want to have a nice sleeping in. Plus waking him up with carressing his body, and cuddling while we both still a bit sleepy and lazy is one of the best moments ive had with him lol. The last night we are back in the city, where we had massage (my idea), nice japanese dinner (i asked him what kind of food, he said japanese), movie (he already watched it but wouldnt mind watching again with me), and of course more morning fun the next day. What i appreciate is we never discuss his tip until the very end of the trip, before i take him to premium outlet near the airport for lunch and a bit of shopping (my idea) before sending him off. When i gave him his tip, he asked how much is this in baht, so i show him the exchange, and told him dont change at the airport here, but change at thailand super rich for better rate. He said thank you, got a nice hug and peck on lips hehe, and he told me to find him when im in bkk. It all went great, better than i imagine and he is very accomodating with me and my clinginess in the room. Some of the interesting stuff we talked about were also the topic in one of the thread here about how boys had been getting ridiculously high tips/gift from rich customers. Some guys he told me got car, even apartment from their customer/sponsor who wants them to stop working at bar. He showed me few of his lucky friends who stopped working already once they got the lottery.

Thanks sifu! I did had a great time indeed. Thanks ggobkk! Cant find time to go to bkk yet but its good that i can take a piece of bkk here instead.

Ive had panu before too, and similar experience as you as well lol thigh fucking his sexy thighs while his had still massaging my back, i was in heaven. Panu and nuk are the two guys ive tried in arena, both muscular and great massage skills. Nuk is more defined, panu is bigger. Both is worth a repeat, but sadly last trip i didnt even go to arena lol

Thanks for sharing the exclusive report on babe. He isnt on my list but nonetheless got me curious too lol. I find shyness of boy a great turn on as well haha. Mind if i ask how much did it cost? U can pm me if you decided to tell me hehe. Thanks again!

Some people (not me) has too much money that they cant even spend through all of it in their lifetime, so sharing it with the boy that make their life happier doesnt seems so bad hehe.

Thanks for the report! Navigating gay stuff while travelling with kids is tough indeed. One suggestion if u still want to venture more without worrying about your daughter sharing your room is to use the short time room available in hotels nearby the bars. Boys usually know which one offer that, and price is usually affordable (last report i read mentioned 500 baht). My first two trips to bangkok was with friends with part of it solo, but i dont dare do anything else when with my friends except the innocence massage hehe. I did however had a regular come to my hotel room one night though and i pray hard my friend didnt disturb me haha.

This is probably the best answer to that question lol

Knowing that you are into models, that gets her 1k off fee, she is certainly trying hard to squeeze off from you. My last visit, the mamasan sits with us 3 almost the whole time we were there, being very helpful, doesnt feels pushy though, no ask of drinks, and just there to answer our questions, and from time to time ask if we want to off a boy. I even asked about a model who isnt around and she offered to call and ask if the boy want to come for me, but i dont want to do that to the boy so i politely refuse. Some people like this personalize attention, some people dont. Just say to mamasan you want to look first, or say not tonight, or say u just come for the show, seems to work for me.

To avoid from getting a different guy from pic, u can ask for more picture of the guy. If its editted, u can tell that the pics might be not consistent etc. Or just be direct and ask for unedited pic that is recent hehe. U might still not get it but itll tell the center that u want what u saw hehe. Another way is to go to the center choose the boy there and set appointment to go to your hotel at later time.

Haha, fomo in action. Sticking with the familar is great but trying new ones are also equally exciting

Yup, thats why i didnt say santuary for 4k is reasonable lol

Normal full service for 2 hour is around 2.5k so u are paying 1k for outcall, which includes lost time in transport (to and fro) off fee away from center and taxi changes return. I understand DM spa is quite far from silom, so 3.5k seems ok if u get great massage and great service and hot masseur hehe but u can actually get Long time boy for that much too.

How long was the session? For outcall, there are extra charges. Similar to off fee and then transport which is most likely a taxi. You are paying for the convienient hehe. But i agree, 3.5k-4k is still high, when compared to going to the center.

Just want to update on my quest about travelling with this guy. We still keep in touch from time to time. It has always been brief, limited to saying hi and wishes on pubmic holiday. The most recent one was on early april. My friends who came to malaysia for a visit had just gone back, and as i was going through IG, he updated his ig (which is rare, the last post was january) and got me thinking of him again lol so i initiate the chat, without any hope of a reply since my last text was january as well. Anyway, he replied my text and i asked how are you, and he said good, and i said i miss u, wish i can bring u here to my place. He reconfirm my country and i said yes and i express i want to take holiday beforr fasting month. He said its songkran in thailand and i asked if he goes back home, he said maybe. I took that as an opening, so i ask if he wants to come here, and said ill pay (of course i will). He ask go Malaysia? I said yeah. And he said "just having free time can go." And i said let me know when you are free. And he said ok. Few days have passed, and as i read his reply again, i noticed i couldve misunderstand him. Did he meant to say he is just now havung free time and can go, or did he meant what i think he meant before, he need to find when he has free time and he will let me know. Anyway, i dont want to push too much, so i just sent a Happy songkran text on songkran. And he says thankyou with wai. Then another text a week later, just asking if he go and have water fight in silom during songkran or not (i had just watched bangkok love stories songkran episode) and he said nope, he just stay in room. And guess what. Earlier this week, he texted me, asking me if im working and i said yes, and asked if he is also working, he said yes. I finally ask again when he is free to travel. And he said next week he can travel!! I propose a date, and asked how long he can come, and bought his ticket! Itll be a first time ill be "travelling with gogoboy"! Well technically, he is travelling, not me. And technically, he no longer works as gogo boy lol but ill take this as a win haha. Cant wait until the day come. Ive reread both divinemadmen and vinapu advise here. Ive yet to discuss money with the boy though, but he told me before when he come here and how much the previous customer pay him, which i find reasonable, so thatll be my benchmark hehe.

To be fair to jupiter, that incident with my friend was a long time ago, so that mamasan or boy might be long gone already. I am also interested to know if refund is a concept any thai bars acknowledge hehe.

I certainly thought off fee is the bar cut from having taking the boy for services. If no services delivered, id be expecting a refund. The boy could say in the bar that he is not well to be off but he didnt. Given that he is only on the way to the hotel, he probably only away from bar less than 10min. Eitherway, its not good for the bar nor for the customer when boy behave like this, and i dont see why customer has to take the hit when the service povided by the bar, aka, the boy, decided to cancel it. In ideal world, its the boy who should be taking the hit, but hey, TIT. My friend decided to vote with his feet and money instead and i dont blame him.

Really? He isnt young as far as im concern hehe

Maybe due to hot weather, boys are more likely to agree to long time?! One can surely hope lol