ChristianPFC

That's Thai Best Massage. My favorite massage boy used to work there: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/02/thai-best-massage-silom-soi-8.html http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/05/thai-best-massage-update.html (note I say "favorite massage boy" and not "favorite massage place" as it all depends on the boy, another boy at the same place was useless at happy ending). Can recommend the place (good choice of boys, good prices, good rooms).

Some places get talked about more for no apparent reason. This effect is self-enhancing: someone who comes to Thailand for the first time will know only these places from internet, and will go there and report about his experiences in these places. I have been to the massage places next to Tawan and opposite Tawan (don't remember their exact names), no complaints. From a higher rate for massage you can expect a higher standard of room (bigger, nicer decoration), whereas from a higher minimum tip I would not expect a better massage or better happy ending. Therefore I usually go to low- or mid-price massage places. For me, the important point is the masseur, not the massage place. And I think my chances to find one who is skilled at massage, happy ending and is my type are the same in all massage places.

From my observations, I have come to the conclusion that not lack of money is the problem, but poor planning. vinapu: and this brings entirely new subject. Most of us probably don't realize how many boys are intimidated by the big city and don't know their way around. Once Arena boy / around the corner from Chong Nonsi BTS / told me he never took a BTS because he doesn't know how to go about it. When I first came to Bangkok, I didn't know how to use MRT/BTS/ARL/bus/boat. And I didn't speak the language. What I did was READ and ASK others.

The gay-friendliest gym must be the one in Babylon sauna, and they offer massage as well.

The prices you were quoted are clearly wishful thinking, hoping some newbie or rich would bite. August 2015 Boys Boys Boys I was quoted: Enquire about prices: off fee 400, short time 1500, room upstairs 500 (in addition to off fee). http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2015/08/pattaya-august-2015.html and in March 2015 a boy asked for 2500, then lowered to 2000 on Line after work (Nop in Kawaii) http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2016/03/pattaya-march-2016.html That one was quite attractive and might have been the star of the bar. And if he just had a customer and is awash with money, I can understand this, but will not pander to such an attitude. I will be back and repeat my offer of 1000, and move on if he doesn't accept.

I'm renting. My search for a place is reported here: http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2014/05/looking-for-room-in-sathorn.html

If you have no previous experience with gay sex, I recommend going to a gay sauna first (there is only one in Pattaya: Sansuk, and many in Bangkok). Entry price is similar to one drink in bar, but in the darkrooms and steamroom you can touch or do even more (within reason and mutual agreement) all for free. As for threesome boy-you-your girlfriend, that should be easy to arrange as many boys who work in gay bars are straight anyway (but ratio can vary considerably from bar to bar).

The price is (not clearly, but in small print) displayed in the corner of that picture/flyer the doorman shows passers-by to entice them in. Currently 400 Baht, however when I went with 2 friends a few months ago we manage to negotiate down to 250 per person per drink.

Did you get such a massage in Thailand? In all my time in Thailand, I have only met one masseur (Bank in Magic Hands 2) who has skills similar to those you describe.

I would look around near your place. I'm sure most laundries offer pick-up and delivery service or can arrange it, although I have never used it.

I stay in Bangkok because there is more to see and do than e.g. Chiang Mai or Pattaya and public transport is better and easy to travel elsewhere in Thailand. Staying in Sathorn is more or less by chance: before my first trip I asked a friend for hotel suggestion, and stayed at Ibis Sathorn. Then I knew the area and had friends there, so all subsequent visits (except when I had a job in Bangkok, then staying near my workplace) I stayed in Sathorn again. Proximity to airport is not important, but I need bus stop and MRT or BTS in walking distance, and proximity to train station is desirable.

Where was the picture with the pillars made of carved wood taken?

"Is anyone interested in local straight men ?" Absolutely! More so than with gay boys. But not with taxi drivers. In estimated 500 taxi rides, I haven't seen a single one I would like to have sex with. The few times we talked about boys or girls, I didn't learn anything new. But I have seen a few handsome mocy drivers.

(my underline) That means the boy sat next to you in a tank top, and from my last visit years ago I remember boy on stage are mostly in tank top. I won't pay a single Satang to watch boys in tank tops! #60's face and upper body are certainly appealing, but when I see his upper legs, the first thing that comes to my mind is (hairy spider): https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Brachypelma_smithi_2009_G03.jpg/240px-Brachypelma_smithi_2009_G03.jpg

Thank you very much for your efforts. The document is not printer friendly, when printing on A4 paper, you need good eyes to read it. I suggest changing the format to use a bigger font next edition. There is a huge coming and going of Thai4Thai gay massage places, advertised in Thai language on Thai websites/social networks. But fortunately, those targeting foreigners are stable in number and location, only few closures and movings.

I'm different. I stand by my principles, and for the few cases I encountered lazy and demanding boys, I relish the memories of showing them their place. And it is indeed that combination "lazy and demanding", a boy who is just lazy but not demanding, I would send him away with standard tip or a bit less; and a boy who is good in bed and demanding, I would tip him more than average because I want to see him again. But lazy and demanding shall not be encouraged by ChristianPFC by caving in to unwarranted money requests. My favorite such encounter (not even sex, just gay disco with intention), shared before but so good, worth sharing again: One more “Walking ATM” incident that I had no place to report. In September last year (2013), I went to Fake Pub (near Chatuchak Market currently 2016 in Ratchada). It was packed, there were few other Farang and few cute boys. One of the cute boys was smiling at me and invited me to his table. He was dancing in front of me and grabbing my crotch. I was thinking feverishly if I would go with him, because seeing him from close he was not that attractive any more. Finally he asked me if I would contribute some money for their drinks. Now that got my brain spinning at highest speed. Money for drinks for a boy with whom I would not go to my room after disco? Maybe 100 or 200 Baht, for the sake of Thai-German friendship. While I was still thinking, he bursted out: “1000 Baht?”. “Sorry, cannot.” Thereupon the impression on his face changed: “Just go!” and he handed my my bottle of beer that I had put on their table. Made my day and I am still chuckling when I think back about this sudden change.

Good post, but the first significant split of Christianity took place already in 1054 to split into Catholic Churches and Eastern Orthodox. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_Schism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Christianity

Thanks for your reports. Sorry to hear Playboy is closed, I spotted several cute boys and had massage with some in the past. If any member knows what's going on, please share.

I used Superrich Silom once (at the crossing of Silom and Narathiwat Ratchanakarin road) and they asked for passport (didn't carry mine, they accepted ID card), made a copy. I had contact with three people before I got to the cashier.

I would guess dealing with police checkpoints is much faster and cheaper when a Thai is driving. I used google maps extensively (traveling with a Farang friend who was driving his car, I did navigation), and it worked fine and is free. I don't see need to buy a separate navigation system, but ask someone who can actually compare google maps with a navigation system. Or even better, start with google maps. Only downside is you need mobile data connection, whereas a navigation system doesn't (it just receives GPS satellites and has maps stored). I read somewhere there is a lot of paperwork to take a mocy across the border.

From map (this isn't Bangkok any more, this is Samut Prakan province) on name card, it's about 1 km from BTS, no improvement to previous location (I mean way from BTS to place). About 3 km to Erawan museum, about 10 km to Muang Boran (estimated). Safehouse sauna and State cinema are nearby (walking distance). http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2015/09/safe-house-sauna-in-samrong.html http://christianpfc.blogspot.de/2015/09/special-cinema-5-state-cinema-in-samrong.html The Thai says "Fitness, reduce weight, ..., build muscles, ..., herbal steam, wash poison out of your body,..."

When I started work in 2013, I got healt certificate from Bangkok Christian Hospital for around 500 Baht from memory. The health certificate for membership in youth club was 60 Baht this year. Big hospitals with English names and English speaking staff will be more expensive than local doctors. The membership form might be in two languages, English and Thai, or ask someone to write down "health certificate" in Thai "ใบรับรองแพทย์" to show it to a doctor who does not speak English.

The Youth Center with swimming pool and indoor gym must have shower facilities. I am member in another Youth Center, you have to submit membership application, passport picture, copy of passport, health certificate (doctor basically checks if you are alive, price varies from 50 to 500 Baht depending on where you go). It's indeed incredibly cheap: 40 Baht per year and 15 Baht per day if I use the facilities. Everything clean and well maintained.

Prachachuen Soi is at the southern end of Prachachuen road, about 1 km from MRT Bang Sue. Somewhere around here: 13°48'33.1"N 100°32'04.2"E (when I insert link, it disappears) There are some saunas north (see my blog), and Chatuchak and other markets east, and the giant construction site of new railway terminal east. It's not that bad.

Regarding meeting the boy after work: too late for me in most cases. I like to be in bed midnight or 1 am, and not waiting for a boy to come 2 am. Regarding meeting the boy the following day: worked poorly for me in Bangkok. With their space-time coordination, I wonder how they manage to go to the bar. I offer 1000 or 1200 for boy to come to see me directly, after taking him once from bar with 1500 for short time in Bangkok, but success rate is poor (details in my blog). Going to the bar and paying a reasonable off fee is still the best option for me.