The Dangers Of Assumptions

[PeterRS]

On 6/2/2025 at 9:03 PM, Keithambrose said:

The sort of post for which the word 'boring' was invented! Also, seems to me unnecessarily  vindictive.  

You have had a day and an evening to respond to my question -

14 hours ago, PeterRS said:

Oh really? And did you read the original - the full original posts? You mean one was not vindictive or any such similar word against me and my posts? I really do wish to know the difference.

- and no response from you who usually are pretty quick off the mark. But you may well have been busy. Still, I will appreciate knowing why you consider one post vindictive and the original post made by the other party is not? Or perhaps you did you not read the original post?

[PeterRS]

12 hours ago, Lucky said:

Wouldn't this be better handled in a private message to the "offending" party?

Fair point. I did send @bkkmfj2648 a PM response the same day that I first read his post which outlined my views in detail. Naturally PMs are private affairs and I asked that the matter not be dragged into the main forum. Please note I have had absolutely no response from @bkkmfj2648 to that PM which was sent more than five days ago.

[floridarob]

3 hours ago, PeterRS said:

how is my post above "deranged"? And how was my post in the Dangers thread "condescending"? Seriously, I am interested to know. As I have said, I accept all criticism for anything I write. But criticism has to have a reason - and you have made quite aggresssive comments but provided no reasoning.

Trump probably feels the same way.....but now you are beating a dead horse. You're making me feel like George Bush, not the biggest ass on the forum now 🧐

[PeterRS]

1 hour ago, floridarob said:

Trump probably feels the same way.....but now you are beating a dead horse. You're making me feel like George Bush, not the biggest ass on the forum now 🧐

@floridarob you are entitled to your opinion which I know you frequently express. You can also call me an ass or whatever you like. But when someone calls one of my posts "deranged", that poster clearly has a reason for it. In which case he has a duty to explain that reasoning both to me and other members to whom it has been expressed publicly. If he does not, @khaolakguy is merely showing his very distinct cavalier attitude to posting by other members without taking the issues expressed in them anything like seriously. He has covered up his obvious concern at his statement because all he has done is suggest others read the posts. That's just a cop out! Other posters have never used the word "deranged". He just makes himself appear foolish!

This may be a "dead horse" to you. It is not to me!

[Olddaddy]

I wonder why Americans use the word "ass" and not arse ?😳

 

[unicorn]

12 hours ago, floridarob said:

... you are beating a dead horse...

[floridarob]

4 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

I wonder why Americans use the word "ass" and not arse ?😳

 

https://grammarist.com/usage/arse-ass/

Which do you prefer, they slap your old daddy _______________ (fill in the blank)

[PeterRS]

On 6/3/2025 at 1:17 AM, khaolakguy said:

This post is deranged . . . Now this nonsense diatribe! Just nonsense. Delete it!

https://www.gayguides.com/topic/76260-the-dangers-of-colombia/

I note that @khaolakguy still backs off providing any explanation for his use of the word "deranged". His post was also a pitiful attempt to persuade others to read just one thread when my post had specifically - and very importantly - referred to and quoted from two threads, one written in February. His comments were selective and inaccurate, and he chickens out of backing them up.

[PeterRS]

On 6/2/2025 at 9:03 PM, Keithambrose said:

seems to me unnecessarily  vindictive.  

And @Keithambrose is another who has not provided any explanation. Taking all the accurate quotes in my post into account from various posts in various threads, his comment does not stand up. Without an explanation he merely jumps on the bandwagon of criticism. His post then becomes all but worthless.

[floridarob]

4 hours ago, PeterRS said:

His post then becomes all but worthless.

The Irony...STOP!

Even @gayinpattaya knew when to stop 😳

[PeterRS]

4 hours ago, floridarob said:

The Irony...STOP!

Even @gayinpattaya knew when to stop 😳

Now I wonder if even you have read the entire posting history! Somehow I doubt it. After all it is no doubt unfortunate that, as I have made perfectly clear, my post above does not refer back to one particular post. It refers to posts in three separate threads. I would have posted all three prior to my latest but that would have taken up almost an entire page. Quoting verbatim made and still makes sense.

As for the content of my posts, you have every right to put me on ignore and/or submit a complaint to the Moderator. Either or both are fine with me. 

[Keithambrose]

39 minutes ago, PeterRS said:

Now I wonder if even you have read the entire posting history! Somehow I doubt it. After all it is no doubt unfortunate that, as I have made perfectly clear, my post above does not refer back to one particular post. It refers to posts in three separate threads. I would have posted all three prior to my latest but that would have taken up almost an entire page. Quoting verbatim made and still makes sense.

As for the content of my posts, you have every right to put me on ignore and/or submit a complaint to the Moderator. Either or both are fine with me. 

Best thing, as suggested to me by others, is just  ignore your posts. I intend to do so. Life is too short!

[Olddaddy]

6 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

Best thing, as suggested to me by others, is just  ignore your posts. I intend to do so. Life is too short!

How long do you think you have left?😳😳

[Riobard]

“Turn turtle”? Them’s fighting words. Learn something new every day. 

[ToTheCore]

wow.  this thread and the obsession over it by eater peter is absurd and borderline psychotic.

There's another poster writing about certain retiree destinations who won't continue.  And I think there's a cadre of members here who wish he did. 

Everyone, PLEASE reach out to him and encourage him to come back and ignore the utter nonsense of this post. 

I really really hate letting a bully win. 

[PeterRS]

7 hours ago, ToTheCore said:

wow.  this thread and the obsession over it by eater peter is absurd and borderline psychotic.

Another poster who clearly has not read the detailed - and long - history behind my OP. This started, as he no doubt does not recall, with mutually very complimentary posts by myself and @bkkmfj2648 on 18 February, long before the disputed posts in the Dangers of Colombia thread. But then having to go back and read a series of more than ten posts made over more than two months is something clearly most posters contributing above cannot be bothered doing. And it was for that reason that I spelled out the detail in my OP above.

Now adding to "deranged" and "vindictive", we have a poster describing my factual series of events as "psychotic". I think it's time that @ToTheCore got himself to some expert to find out what the word psychotic actually means. I would also remind @ToTheCore of the Board Conditions of Conduct which point out that comments should refer specifically to posts and not to actual posters.

And who informed @ToTheCore that another poster has simply stopped posting as a result of this thread? After all, as @jason1975 already pointed out in that particular thread "maybe because 🥰🥰🥰 with boyfriend? 🤣🤣🤣" Until then he was on his own with not a great deal to do each day. I gave many of his posts 'likes' on that thread and I certainly hope he continues.

@vinapu has rightlly said that matters referred to above should be dealt with by PMs. I agree. So what would @ToTheCore do when a long PM has been sent to the other party on May 28 and that party fails to respond - even by June 2 - indeed even by today? How can an agreement or even just an understanding thereby be reached? 

[vinapu]

Reader and bkkmfj already fell silent, vinapu looks he  is unusually quiet. 

It feels like nuclear bomb hit this forum in recent times

[PeterRS]

26 minutes ago, vinapu said:

Reader and bkkmfj already fell silent, vinapu looks he  is unusually quiet. 

It feels like nuclear bomb hit this forum in recent times

@reader has been almost absent for several months with no apparent reason. One reason @bkkmfj2648 has not posted may be that his bf arrived near the end of last week after many weeks before then when I believe he was on his own and, I believe from his posts, had a lot of spare time. So maybe as jason1975 already pointed out in the Vietnam forum, the lack of posting "maybe because 🥰🥰🥰 with boyfriend? 🤣🤣🤣"

If he has actually been reading the forum and is annoyed with this thread, a response to my PM of 28 May might help clear muddied waters.

And is glass-half-full @vinapu in the best of health? We need his chatty postings! 

[Keithambrose]

6 hours ago, vinapu said:

Reader and bkkmfj already fell silent, vinapu looks he  is unusually quiet. 

It feels like nuclear bomb hit this forum in recent times

Perhaps  they are just bored?

[PeterRS]

40 minutes ago, Keithambrose said:

Perhaps  they are just bored?

Perhaps you can explain of what you suggest @reader might be bored given that he has not posted for months and his basic love, as he has himself explained, was posting cuttings from various media outlets? There has been a lot in the media worth posting here. Hopefully he is in good health.

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, PeterRS said:

Perhaps you can explain of what you suggest @reader might be bored given that he has not posted for months 

Hardly month, not months. His last days of multiposting was Apr 30 and May 1st

[PeterRS]

10 minutes ago, vinapu said:

Hardly month, not months. His last days of multiposting was Apr 30 and May 1st

Apologies. I had only just realised the lack of media excerpts which always seemed to be quite regular. I hope all is well with him.

[khaolakguy]

@PeterRS 

I had been holding my tongue in the hope that this unpleasant and pointless thread would be deleted or drop from sight. However as you seem set on perpetuating it….

It is hard to believe that you can be so obtuse. You seem unable to understand the hints that others have dropped on this thread and others in what seems much like a consensus, so I’ll give you my opinion in a more direct way.

Your comments about other active posters and their posting styles, eg this thread, are petty, snide and vindictive and have diminished this forum and discouraged interesting participants from contributing.

Your posts are too often full of vainglorious condescension, seem to be ubiquitous and are swamping the board. You have no humility in your posting and can never accept that anyone else has a valid perspective. It’s not a competition, it’s a conversation.

Sooner or later I expect you will become terminally offended again, throw another hissy fit and storm out slamming the door behind you. You will leave behind a board diminished not by your absence but by the absence of those you have discouraged from participating on this forum.

 

PS. “The Dangers of Assumptions” is a deeply pretentious title to a thread that was created solely to stick the knife into a regular, valued and informative poster. 

 

[PeterRS]

9 hours ago, khaolakguy said:

I’ll give you my opinion in a more direct way . . .  It’s not a competition, it’s a conversation.

First I asked for those making negative coments about the first post in this thread, and you have done so. I thank you for that. I do take what you write on board. And I think you make a very valid point when you write - "it's not a competition, it's a conversation." You may find this difficult to accept, but I agree.

That said, If I might ask you to put aside these comments about the first post above and my posting in general for a moment, and then ask you to look back at the three posts made in the Dangers of Colombia thread.  You clearly consider it is acceptable for @bkkmfj2648 to attack me when all I asked in the first post was a very simple question re the actual dangers which the OP had discussed at length. @bkkmfj2648 responded that this was why he avoided countries in South America. To my simple question asking if sex is an essential part of his travel experiences - which I followed up writing about my month in South America with only travel to see the natural wonders of the continent being my intention and then amplified that with the comment, as regular readers of this forum know very well, that sex is usually part of my regular overseas travelling - you clearly, and for a reason unknown to me, accept that the attack made on me in the 10th post on the second page of the thread as merely part of a conversation. It was not and it is not!

As for my posts, you have clearly read many of mine over a period of at least several years. You know their content, their number and my writing style. You also are perfectly well aware that you and others have absolutely no obligation to read them. You always have the option to put me on your ignore list. Equally you have the option to register a formal complaint to the Moderator. Now, I wonder why over the long period you refer to you have done neither? Does your cynicism extend to actually liking some of my previous posting? That's what this implies.

9 hours ago, khaolakguy said:

1. Your comments about other active posters and their posting styles, eg this thread, are petty, snide and vindictive and have diminished this forum and discouraged interesting participants from contributing.

2. Your posts are too often full of vainglorious condescension, seem to be ubiquitous and are swamping the board. You have no humility in your posting and can never accept that anyone else has a valid perspective.

1. What comments about other active posters have been "snide and vindictive? How have they dimished the forum? Which interesting participants have been discouraged from contributing? 

2.  As a considerable number of others have written precisely the opposite in quite a number of posts, that is just patent nonsense! And I suspect the comment itself is against the Board rules in terms of the Code of Conduct.

And perhaps we should recall that you yourself are not immune to making comments which others might consider snide despite the caveat at the start. In other words, you accept a caveat in your thread but not a simple question in mine! After all, you wrote of @bkkmfj2648's Vietnam trip on 18 May -

"Forgive the cynic in me, and it is nothing personal, however reduced to it’s bare bones and in abstract…….

A Farang newly retired to Pattaya meets a Rent Boy, who becomes his Fuck Buddy, who becomes his Pimp, who becomes his Boy Friend.

Sounds like Boy Friend, not in the first bloom of youth, starts to become financially dependent on his Farang. Farang decides to break up with Boyfriend but as a breakup gift provides Boyfriend with wherewithal to set up his own business.  

The business is selling fruit salad which requires the boyfriend, who likes to party until dawn on Jomtien beach, to get up early to purchase fruit in the market and then be in attendance to run the business. 

 After a few weeks of the business(which is not going well) being set up Boyfriend persuades Farang that perhaps their relationship may still have a future after all so is ready to walk away from the business for a few weeks to be with Farang. Farang meanwhile is putting time, and probably more money sooner or later, into correcting the Boyfriends mismanagement of the business."

[vinapu]

Hope this thread will run it's course before Christmas. Question is, Christmas of what year one wonders ?