Back in Bangkok after only one month!

[vinapu]

5 hours ago, ichigo said:

Sunrise Tacos on the corner of Silom Soi 4 for Mexican food which I've always enjoyed

Lay Lao on Silom Road for great Thai Food

Ros'Niyom in the basement level of Silom Complex also has decent Thai food, and there are many other restaurants on that level (as well as scattered around the complex)

Jungko Bameekiaw on Convent Road for simple and tasty noodles (also a plethora of street food stall and numerous restaurants on this street)

Ringer Hut near Thaniya Road for Japanese food

Rolling Ribs at Le Meridien was quite good, but a bit pricey

90 Grams at Quarter Silom I've heard is quite good (pizza) but I haven't tried yet

And there are many restaurants in Silom Edge which I've yet to try. Hopefully this helps. The great thing about Silom (or Bangkok/Thailand in general) is that there are a plethora of options of many different cuisines and differing price points. Let us know how you go  

I don't know about you guys  but I definitely stick to my beloved Foodland even if I don't dispute what captainmick and Department  wrote about the place above . Simply I don't go that far to waste my time on fancy dining . Foodland keeps me fed, makes excellent boy catching point and it very convenient to meet other members.

Nobody mentioned Sizzler salad buffet  for lunch at 199 baht. They have soups and pasta so one can leave nicely filled.

They are now in Park Silom , floor 3. Bon Appetit everybody

[jason1975]

7 hours ago, vinapu said:

I don't know about you guys  but I definitely stick to my beloved Foodland even if I don't dispute what captainmick and Department  wrote about the place above . Simply I don't go that far to waste my time on fancy dining . Foodland keeps me fed, makes excellent boy catching point and it very convenient to meet other members.

Nobody mentioned Sizzler salad buffet  for lunch at 199 baht. They have soups and pasta so one can leave nicely filled.

They are now in Park Silom , floor 3. Bon Appetit everybody

199 baht is cheap! I must try it one day.

For watching people while eating, I think Foodland and G's are the best places.

[10tazione]

20 hours ago, Department_Of_Agriculture said:

On the other hand, If you have offed a Burmese or Vietnamese boy, there is no accounting for their lack of good taste. Burmese food is appallingly bad; and the dog-eating/rat-eating/cat-eating Vietnamese money boys would probably be at their happiest if you could grab them something on four legs from a back alley, which they can then cook, out of sight, in their own homes - especially if they can persuade you to pay for the condiments as well. 40% of the Vietnamese population eat cats and that is especially common among the poorer sections of society, where it is considered a great delicacy. We can, therefore, assume that about 70% of Vietnamese moneyboys eat cats (the overly obvious joke about eating pussy need not be attempted). As cat/rat/dog is not on the menu in any Silom restaurant that I am aware of, the Viets  will settle for Took Lae Dee. That is hardly a great recommendation of Foodland, though. 

Congratulations, your post reached a new level of assholeism!

[floridarob]

4 hours ago, 10tazione said:

Congratulations, your post reached a new level of assholeism!

Don't worry, he'll outdo even himself 😏

[Keithambrose]

9 hours ago, 10tazione said:

Congratulations, your post reached a new level of assholeism!

Not sure there is such a word, but your sentiments are correct!

[PeterRS]

On 8/10/2025 at 11:17 PM, Department_Of_Agriculture said:

Burmese food is appallingly bad; and the dog-eating/rat-eating/cat-eating Vietnamese money boys would probably be at their happiest if you could grab them something on four legs from a back alley, which they can then cook, out of sight, in their own homes - especially if they can persuade you to pay for the condiments as well. 40% of the Vietnamese population eat cats and that is especially common among the poorer sections of society, where it is considered a great delicacy.

Towards the end of this post, there are some good recommendations. Mango Tree has been going for decades and consitently serves fine Thai cuisine at a sort of mid-price range (much more expensive than Foodland though). Ruen Urai has been praised several times in this forum and I have eaten there at least two dozen times over the last ten years. But you have to be a bit careful. First it is a good bit more expensive than Mango Tree (at least double). Second, avoid it if they try to palm you off with a table upstairs, Absolutely dull and boring atmosphere with no windows. Downstairs is a delight, but be 100% sure of your booking.

Last year several days in advance I booked for dinner with a fellow poster. It was all confirmed, as was downstairs. When we arrived, we were told we'd have to sit outside as they had booked in a party occupying the entire lower floor (which is not big). Clearly that had only been booked after I had made my booking and they had not even had the decency to call back and tell me. We walked away in disgust. I have not been back. A restaurant with their prices has to have good service, in my book!

But the ridiculous comments about Burmese and Vietnamese eating habits are so vastly overexaggerated they should be completely discarded. Both countries have experienced horrific decades-long wars - in Vietnam thanks to a gruesome illegal American war and in Myanmar nearly eight decades of appalling military rule thanks in large part to on-going disasters resulting from British colonialism. In those days, finding anything to eat for much of the population was far from easy. Now, in Vietnam, the government is attempting to get rid of eating cat meat and most of the population is also against it. Assuming that 70% of MBs eat it is utter nonsense.

[vinapu]

5 minutes ago, PeterRS said:

 

But the ridiculous comments about Burmese and Vietnamese eating habits are so vastly overexaggerated they should be completely discarded. Both countries have experienced horrific decades-long wars - in Vietnam thanks to a gruesome illegal American war and in Myanmar nearly eight decades of appalling military rule thanks in large part to on-going disasters resulting from British colonialism. In those days, finding anything to eat for much of the population was far from easy. Now, in Vietnam, the government is attempting to get rid of eating cat meat and most of the population is also against it. Assuming that 70% of MBs eat it is utter nonsense.

I think Department is holding some grudges again boys from those two countries  and is not wasting any occasion to vent out chunk of his venom. 

My former colleague from work, Indian and strict vegetarian when we were discussing those subjects summarized it neatly: " for me whether people are eating chicken , pork or dog it's all the same - they are eating dead body" , I was shocked before I realized he was right

 

[siriusBE]

6 hours ago, vinapu said:

they are eating dead body

Would he prefer (still) living bodies???

[Department_Of_Agriculture]

2 hours ago, siriusBE said:

Would he prefer (still) living bodies???

The Chinese often do.

From live monkey brains to live baby rats, they like it as fresh as possible, along with all the supposed health benefits. 

See, for one example, this charming video:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5979266/man-eats-live-baby-rats-sauce-wine-video/

Note that the dish in the video above is hardly a one-off. Eating live animals is quite common in China and in Chinese diaspora communities, albeit more furtively and much less so these days than in the past. I suggest waiting at least an hour after you have finished eating before watching that video. 

I should note, though, that even the Chinese who eat dogs and rats usually draw the line at cats. Most don't eat them, even though China is a major exporter of cat and dog meat to Vietnam

Also, rather than declining in popularity, cat meat appears to be growing in popularity in Vietnam:

"Cat meat, referred to in Vietnamese as ‘thịt mèo’ or ‘little tiger’, appears to be increasing in popularity in Vietnam, with thousands of cats killed every day. In January 2015, thousands of live cats destined for consumption were seized in Hanoi after being smuggled into Vietnam. The truck contained "three tons" of live cats, reportedly sourced from China. In October 2018, there was an interception of nine cooler boxes with nearly one ton of frozen cats travelling from Dong Nai province in the south to Thai Binh province in the north."

See this report from the AFP: https://www.businessinsider.com/afp-thousands-of-live-cats-from-china-seized-in-vietnam-2015-1

As recently as 2000, it was estimated that over five million dogs and over one million cats are trafficked for consumption in Vietnam every year. For a comprehensive report on the dog and cat meat trade and consumption in Southeast Asia, see this Link The Thais of course, are too civilised and too decent for that sort of thing - and Thai cuisine too good. After all, why would you want cat when you can have chicken cashew nuts? Cat cashew nuts just doesn't have the same ring to it, although the Viets might beg to differ.

Also note that my comments about lousy Burmese food and the cat-eating/rat-eating/dog-eating Vietnamese money boys was in the context of Thai boys not being impressed with Took Lae Dee/Foodland, while those from inferior culinary cultures seem more inclined to eating there. 

But, anyhow, rather than allowing this thread to be derailed by that old man who always seems to have far too much time on his hands, let us return to the actual topic at hand.

 

[khaolakguy]

47 minutes ago, Department_Of_Agriculture said:

After all, why would you want cat when you can have chicken cashew nuts? Cat cashew nuts just doesn't have the same ring to it

 

That may be true in English but much less so in Thai. I think Maeo kap met mamuang has an interestingly and alliterative tone to it. Easily memorable to the extent that I am now concerned that this may come out in future when intending to order the chicken version.

[Department_Of_Agriculture]

1 hour ago, khaolakguy said:

That may be true in English but much less so in Thai. I think Maeo kap met mamuang has an interestingly and alliterative tone to it. Easily memorable to the extent that I am now concerned that this may come out in future when intending to order the chicken version.

Go for it! It will be hilarious to see how the Thais react. They will probably think that you are married to a Viet woman. 

Just be aware that you might soon end-up getting what you ask for given that they are now talking about importing even Vietnamese labour to make-up for the unfortunate exodus of Cambodian workers. 

Given that the average Thai is not very fond of the Vietnamese, it's a sign of how bad the labour shortage is. Still dog owners and cat owners really ought to be pointing-out that the last thing that Thailand needs is an influx of Viets.

Assuming that cat cashew nuts does become secretly available, it might cost you quite a bit though, given that even in 2020, a cat meat hot pot in Vietnam could cost up to $50. That dish definitely cannot be described as took lae dee.

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, Department_Of_Agriculture said:

Thai boys not being impressed with Took Lae Dee/Foodland, while those from inferior culinary cultures seem more inclined to eating there. 

 

I'm glad to belong to the named category🙂

[spoon]

2 hours ago, Department_Of_Agriculture said:

Assuming that cat cashew nuts does become secretly available, it might cost you quite a bit though, given that even in 2020, a cat meat hot pot in Vietnam could cost up to $50. That dish definitely cannot be described as took lae dee.

Cat meat is expensive.

12 hours ago, PeterRS said:

40% of the Vietnamese population eat cats and that is especially common among the poorer sections of society, where it is considered a great delicacy.

But common among poorer section?

[Department_Of_Agriculture]

1 hour ago, spoon said:

Cat meat is expensive.

Yes, cat and dog meat are expensive. They cost a lot more than pork. Dog meat is often double the cost of other animal protein sources such as pork; and cat is even more expensive. That is probably one reason why the dog-eating/cat-eating/rat-eating Vietnamese money boys are so pushy and greedy.

As of 2020, the pricing in Vietnam was as follows:

Dog

* Dog meat in Hanoi: 232,000 VND ($10) per kg

* Raw dog meat: 150,000 VND ($6.50) per kg51

* Live dogs: 80,000 VND ($4) per kg

 Cat

* Live cat: 100,000-160,000 VND ($7-8) per kg

* Live black cat: 180,000-200,000 VND ($9-10) per kg

* Cat meat: 160,000-300,000 VND ($8-15) per kg

* Black cat meat: 250,000-500,000 VND ($12.5-25) per kg

* Cat meat dish (with noodles): 104,000 VND ($4.50)

Black cat meat is the most expensive, because in the brilliant thinking of the Viets, it is the best for health.  

 

1 hour ago, spoon said:

But common among poorer section?

As far as who is eating it goes, the report notes that

    “Cat meat consumers are very similar to dog meat consumers with a few exceptions. Firstly, although dog meat consumers are skewed towards males, cat meat is even more so. Cat meat consumers tend to have lower incomes, with the average household income between 6,500,000 – 7,499,999 VND ($280-$323) per month, even though cat meat is more expensive than dog meat.”

So, although cat meat is more expensive than dog, it is preferred by people from the lower socio-economic status. It also preferred by males. Considering that 40% of Vietnam’s population are cat eaters, and that cat-eating is concentrated among lower socio-economic background males, it is reasonable to assume that about 70% of Vietnamese money boys in Bangkok are cat-eaters. Quite a few of them are probably stealing cats and bashing them on the head with a hammer at home and then cooking them. Bashing it on the head with a hammer is one of the standard ways of killing cats for food in Vietnam.

Every time you off a Viet money boy, some cat or dog is probably doomed to be beaten to death, as I have little doubt that the Viets in Thailand have their own clandestine network where you can pay to eat. 

[vinapu]

guys, have mercy on Jason who started this thread with no intention for it to develop into Dept  of A cookbook  with lots of anti Vietnamese gall thrown in for taste

[zoomomancs]

I too look forward to Jason's updates

[ichigo]

2 hours ago, zoomomancs said:

I too look forward to Jason's updates

+1

[jason1975]

Actually I don't think there's much to write about. Meeting regulars and spending time with favourite guy.

[vinapu]

1 hour ago, jason1975 said:

Actually I don't think there's much to write about. Meeting regulars and spending time with favourite guy.

you already there or coming this weekend?

[jason1975]

12 minutes ago, vinapu said:

you already there or coming this weekend?

This weekend

[floridarob]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

you already there or coming this weekend?

Sounds like Jan 2027 might be getting close....

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, floridarob said:

Sounds like Jan 2027 might be getting close....

sure, another 17 months and we are there

[vinapu]

6 hours ago, jason1975 said:

This weekend

last chance to prevent boy's starvation, have fun !

[PeterRS]

On 8/12/2025 at 6:55 PM, Department_Of_Agriculture said:

The Chinese often do.

From live monkey brains to live baby rats, they like it as fresh as possible, along with all the supposed health benefits. 

See, for one example, this charming video:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5979266/man-eats-live-baby-rats-sauce-wine-video/

Note that the dish in the video above is hardly a one-off. Eating live animals is quite common in China and in Chinese diaspora communities, albeit more furtively and much less so these days than in the past. I suggest waiting at least an hour after you have finished eating before watching that video. 

I should note, though, that even the Chinese who eat dogs and rats usually draw the line at cats. Most don't eat them, even though China is a major exporter of cat and dog meat to Vietnam

Also, rather than declining in popularity, cat meat appears to be growing in popularity in Vietnam:

"Cat meat, referred to in Vietnamese as ‘thịt mèo’ or ‘little tiger’, appears to be increasing in popularity in Vietnam, with thousands of cats killed every day. In January 2015, thousands of live cats destined for consumption were seized in Hanoi after being smuggled into Vietnam. The truck contained "three tons" of live cats, reportedly sourced from China. In October 2018, there was an interception of nine cooler boxes with nearly one ton of frozen cats travelling from Dong Nai province in the south to Thai Binh province in the north."

See this report from the AFP: https://www.businessinsider.com/afp-thousands-of-live-cats-from-china-seized-in-vietnam-2015-1

As recently as 2000, it was estimated that over five million dogs and over one million cats are trafficked for consumption in Vietnam every year. For a comprehensive report on the dog and cat meat trade and consumption in Southeast Asia, see this Link The Thais of course, are too civilised and too decent for that sort of thing - and Thai cuisine too good. After all, why would you want cat when you can have chicken cashew nuts? Cat cashew nuts just doesn't have the same ring to it, although the Viets might beg to differ.

Also note that my comments about lousy Burmese food and the cat-eating/rat-eating/dog-eating Vietnamese money boys was in the context of Thai boys not being impressed with Took Lae Dee/Foodland, while those from inferior culinary cultures seem more inclined to eating there. 

But, anyhow, rather than allowing this thread to be derailed by that old man who always seems to have far too much time on his hands, let us return to the actual topic at hand.

 

Another nonsense post! No one even in the UK believes the garbage frequently printed in The Sun newspaper. Not only is that article more than 7 years old, it points out at the end that eating rat is banned in China.

And your "news" about cats just took a dive given that the AFP article you posted to back up your preposterous claims is 10 years old! Again it states that the eating of cats is banned!

Clearly you know you have disrupted the thread with garbage which can not be backed up since you end your stupid series of posts "let us return to the actual topic at hand." Who derailed it?

[emiel1981]

On 8/9/2025 at 2:37 AM, jason1975 said:

This guy has probably the best body among all the guys in Silom Surawong area.

Well... sounds like my type of guy also. If you would like to share who it is, where he works... would appreciate. Can imagine you might not want to share details publicly on forum, so you can always sent me DM also.