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After a long, over-one-year, battle between the estate and Daddy, it looks like the stand off has concluded. I am sure that the estate got what it wanted out of the past year. I am also sure that Daddy also got what he wanted from the past year. It seems to me that both parties got what they wanted in the end. The people that are screwed are the guys that put the content into the site without knowing what was happening behind the scenes. I am not a conspiracy theorist. I don’t believe Dick Cheeny had anything to do with 9/11. I don’t think Elvis is alive. However, for anyone not to believe that this was not planned all along, you are not living in reality. Within 24 hours of Hoo’s death, the battle began. It was quick to commence. Many parties were involved and they eventually drifted away. I was one of the parties. I knew from day 1 what was to transpire. I knew as I heard it with my own ears. I have said this before and I will say it again, nothing that went on here should surprise anyone. Daddy now has over a years worth of reviews. He has his own domain name that was registered over a year ago. He has an active user base and an active escort e-mail base. He has all the roots to make a successful business. However, if you honestly thought there were motivations involved here based on a friendship or love for the dead, you are misguided. Money is the key factor that motivates people around the world. When Hooboy died, he left a very valuable commodity. People have been sucking it dry every since. When the site was closed, I made a last ditch attempt to purchase the name from the estate. I made a very generous offer as well as an offer to just rent the forward of the domain name. A representative for the estate responded: The estate “does not wish to sell or forward the M4M domain name now or anytime in the future. (It) wishes to keep the name and will not allow anyone use of it.” Perhaps money is not the motivating factor behind the decision. Perhaps a sense of rest is needed for those involved. Perhaps, it was solely a business decision. Perhaps it was one that just brought closure to them. I don’t know what the reason behind their decision was. I don’t know what Daddy’s decision not to renew the ISP agreement was. I am not privy to their thoughts or motivations. All I can see is the result. Perhaps now, many will be able to sit back and take a different look at the whole situation. As I said to those involved in the estate yesterday, I did not envy them. I would hate to have been involved in what they were the past year. I do not envy Daddy, as I would not have wanted to be in his shoes the last year either. As Doc Severinsen said, “Well, the thought came to me that, for many of us who did this show, and for many people who watched the show, just because Johnny left there, didn't give them the closure they needed. But I would say that his passing gave us that closure, because I think we all realize now that he's not coming back.” I think that the site being down brings the closure that many needed but that none wanted. HooBoy’s Male Escort Review has made the transition to History. Oz

>Ultimately we are all >interested in the escorts and their reviews and not pissing >contests with other old men! Yes, I totally agree. Also, my mother always told me, "never get into a pissing contest with a skunk." Rarely do I loose my temper online or in person. It happens. But, not too often. When it does, you bet your bottom dollar that I was fed up with something. You are right Lucky. We are all interested in the escorts and the reviews. That is why I was always loyal to Hooboy and his site. That is why I travel as much as I do. That is why I post new people when I find them. That is why the site was started. Marc Anthony taught me a long time ago, when you meet a nice guy just starting out, you review him to let him make more money and to let other people meet him as well. Many people find a new guy and want to keep silent to keep the boy to themselves. Without people like Marc, TY, KYTop, SilverDollar and many others, I would not have met some wonderful people I have met. When NYObserver was doing his posts on M4M, I was always in attendance to try to find out if there was a new guy dancing at the Gaity. When some of the guys from the South of the Border forum posted about some new guy that was hot, I was always standing in attention ready to listen. Many people contributed to a community. You are one of them Lucky. We have not always seen eye to eye and we will not always see things the same way. That is what is so great about a message board. It lets you hear others peoples thoughts and reactions to things. It is a buffer before a new experience. It is sound bit for a new adventure. Thanks to M4M I was able to get information on my first trip to Brazil and my first to Thailand. Firecat introduced me to the only guy I see everyday when I am in Montreal. Marc introduced me to a boy that practically lived with me in NYC for 2 years. Tri was able to share with me about Brazil and argue with me about what a sauna boy should be paid. Not all experiences were great but all were a learned adventure. When all of the above is accomplished through one site, you have to give credit where it is due. Hooboy's site helped me to live some of my greatest adventures and meet some of my best friends. Hopefully, this site will allow me the opportunity to continue with that adventure. And, hopefully, it will be a site without all the men pissing at or on each other. (On the boards anyway, if that is your fetish, it is ok ) Asparagus! Oz

>A gem? Yes... a good analogy. I've always said that twinks >are attracted to the most shiny object in their line of sight. > And Oz is the twinkmaster. haha. Thanks Marc. Perhaps I should reveal that the shiny object is some a pair of diamond studded glasses I purchased in Italy. There are at least 20 nice stones on each side. The shine is amazing isn't it? But, please don't tell anyone that I got them in Italy and had the diamonds put on in the night market in Bangkok. Some may begin to suspect that the diamonds are not really diamonds. Also, I was in Montreal with you last week. It seemed to me that all the boys flocked around you and not me. Did you sneak into my purse and borrow anything shinny? Thank you Sin Say

>Though a regular lurker Wonderful! Was that you perchance lurking inside my hotel room last week in Montreal. I tried to motion you to come in. There is never any need to stay outside in the rain. Especially when it was 25 stories up. jk Welcome and please feel free to lurk, post, laugh and learn. Oz

>Scott Adler refers to this site as "inferior" in the >old message center that remains Virginia Woolf summed it up nicely: “Without self-confidence we are as babes in the cradles. And how can we generate this imponderable quality, which is yet so invaluable most quickly? By thinking that other people are inferior to oneself. “ I do not now, nor have I ever thought MER was inferior to M4M. In business, it is always good to have alternatives. If there is only one store to buy at, that does not benefit the consumers. Scott has a role to play at M4M. He said that the majority of his work came from there. His livelihood depends on it. I can’t fault him for trying to do everything in his power to get the source of cash flow back into his pockets. Gucci and Prada are expensive. And, lord only knows how much those hairdressers in WeHo are. There is plenty of room for 2 sites, or 3 sites or even 20 sites. Competition is good for all. It is good for the escorts, it is good for clients and it is good for the owners. TY and I are putting a great deal of time, effort and energy into this site. Since our ads have been running this week on Cruisingforsex.com and MenOnTheNet.com, our hits keep going up. The other site being closed made our numbers go up. When Daddy opens another site, our numbers will still go up. Why? Because the more that is out there the more interest there is in escorting. The more interest, the more hits. It really does benefit us all. Ty and I are dedicated to staying in here for the long haul. We will keep pouring money into advertising. We will put money into other things. We will keep busting our Asses everyday to make sure things get done fast and responses to e-mails and posts are expedient. We do this because we are committed to the project and we want it to succeed. Hoo made tons of money off the site but that is NOT why he started it. He started it to build a community of like minded individuals who wanted to communicated about one of his favorite subjects; escorts. We became friends, as that is also one of my favorite subjects. We stayed friends because we had other things in common. I hope this site gets business for some escorts and I hope that clients get the information that is needed. We will keep trying to be the best we can be and make the site even better! And to Scott, I assure you that we will one day have more quality reviews than any other site. If you are a betting man, give me a shout and we can place a wager.

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>Well, I don't know about being a gem but he is this nice in >person, actually... ;-) > >BG Thank you. My mother always told me to be nice. It is the southern way!

>HooBoy died Mar 3, 2005 > >Daddysreviews.com domain was registered on March 19, 2004. >Almost a full year before HooBoys death. My goodness man. Can't you see it? Both of these events occured in March. There is only 16 days seperating the days between these events in March. 6 is a very important number. March is the third month. 3 is half of 6. It is now 2006. Another 6. OMG Are you blind? Why can't you see the pieces to the puzzle? Oz PS. When I just viewed the topic, there were 6 posts. The topic was viewed 66 times. Another coincidence? I think not!

Yes, I did. Sorry. BostonGuy said: "Nicely said... (seems like I've been saying that to you a lot recently!) It is sad, in a way, but life moves on. It was clear from the beginning to any careful observer, that it was about money and business. There's nothing wrong with that at all: it's what drives most of the things we do each day, from the goods we consume (including literally) to the services we use or provide or the entertainment we seek. I've always wished Daddy good luck in his venture. I know that some others haven't felt that way, but I have never been privvy to any details or information that would make me change my mind. And so I wish him luck, just as I would wish any new enterprise luck. Running a business can be a lot of work, even for experienced people, and many businesses don't succeed. I hope his does. From that point of view, not publicizing the new domain name much, much earlier may have been a strategic mistake. Something like 600 people have logged into the new Message Center since its inception. One has to think that there are probably a couple thousand more who have just lurked. But those numbers are a far cry from the traffic that I think M4M used to generate on a daily basis. He has to be hoping that a lot of people saw the new URL before the M4M domain was parked. But perhaps he has a publicity campaign in place or other tricks up his sleeve. Perhaps he's willing to just be patient and let it grow; there are worse strategies. But the fact that the new domain name wasn't publicized earlier makes me wonder if you are correct in thinking that all that has unfolded in the last few days was actually planned in advance. Perhaps the timing, at least, was a surprise." BG Thanks BG, I don't think it was so much a surprise. Remember 90 days is not a good number for a surprise. I think it had more to do with not wanting to step on legal toes and make matters more difficult for any party involved. Just IMHO. Oz

This message moved to new thread by Oz: See 'Transition to History'

I can’t say that I really know what one is personally. However, I have seen some out there and have always been impressed with the ones that are able to keep them. On a recent trip to my family, I looked around and saw most of my relatives in very stable marriages. My sibling has been married for over 15 years and they are still best friends and romantic. My longest relationship has been 5 years. My longest period of monogamy is 5 months. After that, we seemed to go in different directions when it came to other sexual partners. Most of the gay long term partners I have met have made rules that keep them together. Some vacation separately a few times a year and don’t discuss partners. Some have threesomes. Some are just OK with their partner doing what they want with other guys as long as their friendship is top priority. And, still others I know say it is ok for their partner to sleep around as long as it is for money and an escort. What keys, if any, do you think there are for a LTR?

My top 5 Favorite scenes from any movie are: 5. Heathers - When someone asks Heather why she is such a mega bitch, she says, "Because I can be." 4. Steel Magnolias - When they are gathered at the graveyard and a face gets slapped. 3. My Own Private Idaho - all the scenes but especially the one when River is under the covers. 2. Wolf - Jack is pissing in the bathroom to mark his spot and pisses on the shoes of his adversary. The guy walks over to wipe it off and comments on how horrible it smells and Jack says, "Asparagus." 1. Gone with the Wind - Miss Scarlet I ain't birthing no babies.

As of this weekend, we added the number of hits per review. This only counts the number of hits for the profile starting from this date and not past hits. Thus, you will see that the numbers of hits for the reviews for the past few profiles are higher than the ones from months ago. I am sorry but we were unable to get the number of hits from past months added to this. However, this will work going forward from today. We have also added a new area at the bottom of each review for viewers to tell us if that review was helpful or not. Currently, it allows all visitors to the site to count in the tally. I hope these new additions are useful to you. Thanks! Oz

>Adam: > >It really is quite a treat. Tonight was one of the best >nights I have ever spent here... and that says a lot. Just >when you think it can't get better... it does. > Hopefully, when you recoup from your trip you will give us a bit more details? I will say that some of the most beautiful boys walking the streets and the malls are in Montreal. I had a nice visit there. It was also nice to finally meet Trey Thurston. Trey was with a client and I met him in a go-go bar. He is without a doubt one of the nicest guys I have met and a true class act. I can understand the praise that Marc and others have given to this guy. I am a cynic by nature and believe little of what I hear. However, this guy won me over faster than any escort has. He has a wonderful smile and is oozing personality and charm. While I did not get to see what was under the clothss, EVERYTHING I saw outside of them was engaging! I was also able to meet some of Marc's Vincent's. Talk about stepping out of a magazine. I can't wait to hear about the best night ever! Oz

Haha. I was shocked they put that on prime time TV. A great episode!

Being a lover of Itunes.com, they are offering the new show Kyle XY. It is a very interesting story and the lead actor is hot. I won't give too much away but the guy is found wandering in the woods, no identity and no belly button. Why? Well, that is the story. So far, I have really enjoyed it. GT

Thank you for the great report. Allen has been a true pillar of the gay community in Pattaya and is one of the main reasons it has such a lively internet following around the world. When I am away, I always look forward to his reports. When GayThailand was shut down, he was always willing to offer advice as to what to do to get it unblocked. I am glad that this event was respectable and not seen as a way for Niddy's to profit. I am sure that many will see things they wish to see them regardless of what the intentions were. However, your posting really brought a great light onto the event and is very much appreciated. Thanks to Niddy's for honoring Alllen!

We have started to advertise more on the internet. Take a look at our ads on: www.MenOnTheNet.com in both the Escorts Section and in the Cruising Section. We are in the process of signing a few more contracts with other companies to get more visibility. Just and FYI Oz

Hi TeePee. Thanks for the topic. Let me explain our rationale with modeators. When Stef was able to get the site from being unblocked inside Thailand, the usual group came back on to try to post things that would get us shut down again. We spent 24/7 trying to moderate things. One night, one guy posted BS, I deleted. He posted again. I delted again. This went on for 4 hours until I just blocked him and his IP from the server. Knowing that we would not be able to do this on our own, we turned to 2 people we trusted, Rainwalker and GayButton. We have grown not only to like these 2 posters but we have great respect for them. We approached them and they said they would be happy to assit. I hope this clears things up a bit.

I just left Montreal and had a fantastic time. Gay Pride and Out Games were a lot of fun. I met several Thai's there that were competing in the games. I was very happy for that. I also met several guys from Pattaya that I was able to have a little fun with. It really is a small world we all live in.. A few months back, I had a little dinner party with 120 or so guests. I had originally cooked for 30 but as the night grew, so did the numbers. Anyway, one of the guests I had invited brought a friend with him. I really enjoyed my talk with him and we had a great conversation till the wee hours of the morning. A few nights back, I was in Montreal and in a gogo bar called Taboo. I felt a tap on my shoulder and it was the guy from my party. He is originally from Montreal and saw me there. That made 5 guys I saw in Montreal that week that I met in Pattaya. I was once a party boy in NYC and I can't even count the number of NYC boys I ran into that I knew from years gone by. I am now back in the USA for some family quality time and some time with my new loved ones (the 3 dogs). I hope all you guys are keep the boys entertained and happy while I am away. LOL GT

I have tested it a few times and it worked just fine for me. I am not sure how specific your search is. I did one for USA escorts who like both nipple play and frottage and were 21-24. I got back the correct database of escorts. What was your exact search and I will test it here as I tested a few other things and it worked fine. Give me some more detail and I'll be glad to assist. Thanks. Oz

Thanks. I know they will not be the same as Thailand and Brazil. And, actually, I am a bit more nervous for this trip. I heard PV is great and am exctied about there. Here are some links so far I have found most helpful. http://www.gaymexico.net/ http://gay-puertovallarta.com/ http://www.globalgayz.com/g-mexico.html http://www.gaymexico.com.mx/englishversion...ishversion.html http://www.gaytimes.co.uk/gt/listings.asp?...Country&CID=648 http://www.planetout.com/travel/destinations/guides/?key=159

The programming team worked on this and it seems to have been fixed. Can you test it again from your end. It was working for me during my test. Thanks. Oz

>Anyone searching Google for Hooboy will see who's putting >money into being deceptive or engaging in misdirection. >There's ONE sponsored (i.e. paid) link, and that ain't >Hooboy's site. Thanks for noticing that. It is only one of over 400 keywords we target. Is that really what you call deception? Now, I see why I had trouble understanding most of your posts at M4M. >Omissions are deceptive too. There was a post here a day or so >ago asking about specific non-reviewed escorts. Your reply was >lengthy and articulate and completely omitted the fact that >those escorts ARE reviewed, just not here. You are too funny Deej. Thanks for the chuckle. >I suspect I've worn out my welcome now, so you likely won't >hear from me again. But I do wish you the very best of luck! I'll take bets that we do hear from you again. Let me call my bookie in Vegas and see what the odds are. Thanks for the good luck wishes. While, I am not sure of their sincerity, I do wish you and Daddy good luck. Hooboy was a friend of mine and I really wanted his site to continue. Don't blame us that it didn't. Look closer to your homebase for that one.

Less than 2 weeks later and we are now at 900. Thanks guys! Oz