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When you are big and very tall, business class is a must, not a choice when flying 23 hours to get to Bangkok.  It has nothing to do with choice or lack of frugality.

I agree with Terry that the use of boy is overdone in the gay community here in Thailand. And yes, better to use a term like guy.
At least in writing of one's exploits on the forums! Even I cringe when I read of the word boy.
 
But, there are many commonly used double words with "boy" in them such as flower boy, money boy, shoeshine boy, beach boy, lover boy, boy friend, go-go boy and on and on which are acceptable.
 
An expat friend recently was on board an airliner and asked the flight attendant (female)  to send the "boy" (a male flight attendant) to his seat. He immediately realized his mistake but too late.

My advice to first timers is to stay at hotel in immediate Silom area, such as Tarntawan.  Given you are a newbie and only in BKK for a few days (assuming Bejing is a typo), I would focus on easy access and minimize travel time. 
 
If you arrive late evening, visit Screwboys for intro to the scene. Then get a map of gay bars and try the most talked about ones here on your first full evening.
 
During the first full day have breakfast at hotel, then take BTS to CentralWorld and nearby SiamParagon.  Both also have great movie theaters which are a good place to hang out during the heat of the day and have lunch. If they are too upscale, head to MBK and check out the night market for shopping later near your hotel in Patpong. 
 
Afternoon is good time for a massage. Try out one of the massage places nearby such as Senso in Saladaeng or ones near Tawan or on Silom. All should be within walking distance of your hotel.
 
Late afternoon is a good time to walk at Lumpini.
 
Early evening is a good time to have dinner near the bars on Soi Twilight and relax to watch the guys come to work or have dinner in one of the places on Soi 4.
 
Go to the bars as they open and choose your preference(s) for a visit back at hotel.
 
I would bring your own meds.
 
When out, smile and be friendly, stay cool and relaxed, be upfront and candid about what you want and what you will pay and tip is possible if you are happy. Have fun and enjoy the ride

Good luck finding your gay Lay. There are many of them in Thailand.

Sorry you are feeling bad and I hope you feel better soon.
 
Hero is one of my favorite places.  Sometimes it is hit or miss but under the old owners there were always 40 - 50 guys there on a weekend. Yesterday, there were about 20.  So, is this a trend?  Has the place gone that low? If so, what is the new hot place?

Thank you for the report.  I always stopped in Screwboys while in Bangkok because you never knew what you would find. I met some very nice guys from there over the years.  The one mamasan could be a pain trying for tips but I just gave her the smallest bill I had. I always thought the boys there tried a bit harder than the other places nearby.

Thank you for the report.  I always stopped in Screwboys while in Bangkok because you never knew what you would find. I met some very nice guys from there over the years.  The one mamasan could be a pain trying for tips but I just gave her the smallest bill I had. I always thought the boys there tried a bit harder than the other places nearby.

Thank you for the report.  I always stopped in Screwboys while in Bangkok because you never knew what you would find. I met some very nice guys from there over the years.  The one mamasan could be a pain trying for tips but I just gave her the smallest bill I had. I always thought the boys there tried a bit harder than the other places nearby.

Please remember that bars in Thailand are not anything like what you think of as gay bars.  I am not into the gay scene and do not go into gay bars in the U.S. either.  Trust me, when you go alone into the places in Soi Twilight, you will not be uncomfortable or shy.  Think of it as a shopping trip where all the sexy Thai guys are on display in their shorts and want you to choose them.  If you go early you may be one of only a few customers. You will be shown to a seat facing the stage (all seats do) and the fun begins. No one else will even be looking at you.
 
It may seem overwhelming and sensory overload (in a good way) at first, but you will immediately catch on and feel like you are in heaven!
 
Feel free to PM me with any questions as I have been going to Thailand for a long time and felt the same as you on my first trip.

I would stay as close to Soi Twilight as you can so you are within a short walking distance of MANY establishments.  Then I would go EARLY to one of the more popular bars(get a map beforehand- and consider Hot Male and Dream Boy) and talk to the "mammasan" and tell them EXACTLY what your preference is showing them 100-200 baht tip and ask them to recommend someone.  Imply you plan to return as your hotel is nearby.  Pick your guy and confirm with the help of the "mammasan" that he will do what you wish.  Off you go.
 
If you are happy with him, then negotiate with him to stay longer,  If not 100% happy, return to same bar and try again. 
 
I recommend the above approach because 1) you save time and taxi, 2) "mammasans" at better bars CAN sometimes be helpful if you are polite, tip and tell them you want their help, 3) it is more economical to have a barboy back to the room than from most massage shops, 4) if your primary goal is sex over massage I think the bar route is a better use of time, because you will have time to go back to the bar and repeat, and 5) you have a wide selection of bars all next to one another.
 
Smile and be very polite when you go to the bars.
 
Let us know how it works out.

I would stay as close to Soi Twilight as you can so you are within a short walking distance of MANY establishments.  Then I would go EARLY to one of the more popular bars(get a map beforehand- and consider Hot Male and Dream Boy) and talk to the "mammasan" and tell them EXACTLY what your preference is showing them 100-200 baht tip and ask them to recommend someone.  Imply you plan to return as your hotel is nearby.  Pick your guy and confirm with the help of the "mammasan" that he will do what you wish.  Off you go.
 
If you are happy with him, then negotiate with him to stay longer,  If not 100% happy, return to same bar and try again. 
 
I recommend the above approach because 1) you save time and taxi, 2) "mammasans" at better bars CAN sometimes be helpful if you are polite, tip and tell them you want their help, 3) it is more economical to have a barboy back to the room than from most massage shops, 4) if your primary goal is sex over massage I think the bar route is a better use of time, because you will have time to go back to the bar and repeat, and 5) you have a wide selection of bars all next to one another.
 
Smile and be very polite when you go to the bars.
 
Let us know how it works out.

I'm a regular- three times a year- at Ambiance so I declare my bias. But I did inspect both Copa and Le Cafe for a friend. I used to stay at the latter when Robbie was there, The place has been up-graded since those days.
 
There is a lot of difference in the the rooms at Ambiance. The cheapest are small and, facing the back, have little natural light. The better ones are fine but I always take a Penthouse room; I like the open-ness of them, their size and the views of the soi, the sea and the chedi. But you have to pay for these privileges, naturally.
 
I like  the reception staff-indeed all the staff- and  this brings me onto Copa. If anything, the rooms are better. Newer of course and brighter. But the reception is not as professional as Ambiance and  it is more of an apartment block than a hotel.  My friend chose Copa and was happy there but this one issue led him to Ambiance for his second visit. He felt more secure (particularly with visitors) as a newbie than at Copa.
 
The rooms at Le Cafe are fine but there are  no penthouse ones .Good restaurant, too. Copa has none.  
 
The other factor is noise. Copa and Cafe Royal sit on top  of noisy  show-bars. Ambiance is affected by this too but has the advantage of its show bar being enclosed. Even there noise from across the soi is sometimes a problem. The 0300 karaoke at Cafe Royal is unbearable.  Of course, these are not considerations for night-owls. 

I totally enjoy your posts and makes me miss being there to enjoy the same things you do. Thanks for posting.

Thank you for an excellent update on a variety of places.

You do a great job writing so no apologies are necessary.  I understood it better than some folks who are native English speakers haha! Thank you for posting.

You do a great job writing so no apologies are necessary.  I understood it better than some folks who are native English speakers haha! Thank you for posting.

No, I have not stayed there for a few years.  But when I did stay there, my experience was  the same as what your friend said.  The town shut down earlier than Bangkok or Pattaya. Many enjoyable restaurants, clean well-controlled, no sleaze.  I was able to find a decent guest house near the beach and restaurants. Because a Royal home is there, it is tightly controlled. No scams, touts, or sex visibly for sale.
The gay scene was very subdued, nearly non-existent.  I took a friend and felt that was more appropriate.  We had a great time. Perhaps there is more phone contact available today, I don't know.

I have a different opinion.  Limiting access to photos to the top 50 posters is not the same as limiting access to regular contributing members.  Many faithful readers and posters are left out of a photo thread which has been active for some time with minimal problem and more positive comments than most other threads.
 
I agree that the separate thread using photos without permission and combining with fake stories was a problem.  But it could have been addressed without "throwing the baby out with the bathwater".
 
Sorry, but viewing tasteful pictures does not equate to pornhub.  
 
I respect the owner's right to do as he sees fit and wish him the best of luck. It is a thankless job. I think he will see an impact on traffic.

I think the 200 cutoff may have unintended consequences and suggest it be lowered. I counted just 89 members who have posted more than 200 posts and 32 of those have not posted in a year.  The members page lists 826 pages with 20 per page, so you have over 16000 members.  This doesn't include the folks who may be reading without becoming members.
 
In my case, do I really want to continue reading the forum if the pictures are gone/unviewable for me?  Do I feel like posting for the sake of upping my post count? I get bored fairly quickly so it is more likely I will drop off as a reader.

I suggest just enjoying the experience of the moment and not worry about planning too much.

I have a different opinion.  Limiting access to photos to the top 50 posters is not the same as limiting access to regular contributing members.  Many faithful readers and posters are left out of a photo thread which has been active for some time with minimal problem and more positive comments than most other threads.
 
I agree that the separate thread using photos without permission and combining with fake stories was a problem.  But it could have been addressed without "throwing the baby out with the bathwater".
 
Sorry, but viewing tasteful pictures does not equate to pornhub.  
 
I respect the owner's right to do as he sees fit and wish him the best of luck. It is a thankless job. I think he will see an impact on traffic.

I thought it looks more like he just has long nipples rather than "bitch tits".

I have always used the same barber on Silom that reader mention above.  Always had a good haircut here for price mentioned.  One barber I used there had worked in a major hotel and spoke very good English.

I would stay out of it unless personally knowing the facts or personally involved.  The Thai have their own ways of taking care of such matters and are quite effective at it.  Some underestimate how desperate some workers may be and the violence that can so easily follow from them directly or their friends.
 
I was once in a Bangkok club we all know when one of the boys abruptly and perfectly punched a customer in the face. bloodying him quite well.  The story was that the customer had not paid the boy the week before for services rendered and had done so in a way the boy lost face.  The customer had his face rearranged for it.

I would stay out of it unless personally knowing the facts or personally involved.  The Thai have their own ways of taking care of such matters and are quite effective at it.  Some underestimate how desperate some workers may be and the violence that can so easily follow from them directly or their friends.
 
I was once in a Bangkok club we all know when one of the boys abruptly and perfectly punched a customer in the face. bloodying him quite well.  The story was that the customer had not paid the boy the week before for services rendered and had done so in a way the boy lost face.  The customer had his face rearranged for it.