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My little bloke will remain wrapped in a rain coat, as will any others that try to shag me, no rain coat no go.

My little bloke will remain wrapped in a rain coat, as will any others that try to shag me, no rain coat no go.

My little bloke will remain wrapped in a rain coat, as will any others that try to shag me, no rain coat no go.

My little bloke will remain wrapped in a rain coat, as will any others that try to shag me, no rain coat no go.

My little bloke will remain wrapped in a rain coat, as will any others that try to shag me, no rain coat no go.

To be clear just in case there's someone reading this online who is rushing out to break down their pharmacy door to buy this new drug Truvada and all whilst throwing way all their pack of condoms as they go, Truvada does NOT claim to 100% prevent HIV infection, it merely reduces the risk ( albeit quite a lot) but it also can result in quite a few unwanted side effects and obviously if safe sex is not being practiced you are also then leaving yourself and others wide open to picking up the full spectrum of the other large amount of STI's out there - with Syphillis especially making a rampant come back of late right throughout the gay world unfortunately again it seems.
 
So, if you're a health care worker or such like then perhaps maybe this new drug can be seen as an added shield to help protect yourself just that little bit more against accidental HIV infection, but to think for even a moment that this is a new way to enable you to practice unsafe sex whilst 100% staying STI / HIV free -  guaranteed - would be VERY mistaken. So keep using those condoms guys as is it REALLY worth risking your good health for the rest of your life for the sake of just one quick random fuck ......

Don't be too nervous , puzzle will fit together nicely. First if you are bit nervous instead of taxi just walk down the soi, this gives you a chance to cool down a bit. Mid way through the soi it forks, take left fork and keep going almost to the end, Hero will be on your left. There is neon sign.
 
Go inside and you will know how gay section of heaven looks like.
Mamasan is  the guy in charge of helping you to pick up the right boy, don't look for him , he will find you.
Have a sit and keep glancing boys behind the glass making your choice, ask mamasan questions if you   have preferences / top, bottom, dick size, quality of massage etc / but use you own eyes and brain first . No shortage of lean muscular boys there.
 
If mamasan  helps you you can slips him 50-100 baht tip, if you are making your own choice without his help don't bother, minimum tip for 1 hr course at Hero is 1000 but if you take longer course and  /or  you are happy with boy tip him more.
 
Last time there I took longer treatment / 2 hr, / in the VIP room, it cost 1500, minimum tip was also 1500,  regular room is 700 for 1 hr course. Tipped boy 2500,  2000 for performance +500 for being hard already when undressing / my habitual bonus/ , probably spoiled him and a market with the tip but felt spoiled by his performance too.
 
IF you not into muscular boys don't bother , no twinks at Hero. If for some reason you are not fully happy or just need one more there's Banana club on your way , on the same side of soi. Boys are less hunky , more swimmers built type  but massage I had was of  superior quality .
 
Let us know how it went at Hero, king of massage places in BKK in opinion of many myself included although is not my first choice, Arena is for historical reason.

I wouldn't  be too fast to cross them out just because of negative feedback from others even if warranted as per kalabao post.
 
I visit them on every trip and never was disappointed with boys and service, I like their décor too. I like their boys selection and fact that they present themselves at front which is much less intimidating than going inside and having to make in face decision like in most other places. Even fact that boys seem to be more interested in their phones than passing traffic had advantages as one can pass by without being pestered for  accustom  like in other places down the soi.
 
But I guess we all have our preferences.
 
Fact that boy was crap doesn't make whole place bad, my worst boy by far and one of the best ever are coming from the same place / Dreamboys /  and were offed only few day apart.
 
No I'm not on commission  from Bangkok massage  but genuinely like the place   

make sure you keep us updated as we did not have any trip report in a while and instead of discussing regular subjects like boy's tips and costs of drinks we are involved more in politics recently

Hopefully cold heads will prevail in both Thai political establishment and on this forum. Politicos clearly should see that bringing people to the streets is double edges sword as other side may do the same.
 
Scaremongering doesn't help as  demonstrations  go on from Nov last year  and as far as travel to LOS is concerned everybody who went there returned safe.
 
Yingluck miscalculated her step with amnesty proposal which infuriated both sides so was author of her own misfortune.
 
As for courts being joke it looks that everywhere nowadays  when they wade into politics they become one, not unique to Thailand.
 
Circus with Florida 'chads ' during presidential election in USA giving seat to George W comes to mind. Al Gore just had more class that Suthep to give up , likely due to cleaner hands.  
 
So all planning Thai vacations don't chicken out and just go, stay away from big gatherings as you would to in any foreign country and don't discuss politics with locals,  boys included.

Does it matter if the majority vote for a corrupt party or the minority vote for their corrupt party?
 
A court does seem to me to be important to maintain law and order but it seems this court was playing partisan politics. The charge which she was convicted and removed for seems to be a load of horse shit. And, the court made a mockery of itself by allowing this to happen.
 
Neither party is ideal. But, does it matter in a democracy? Should not the majority rule?

I's second Bob's comments, it's pure farce , not democracy if PM is removed by collusion of mob and judicial actions.
 
I'd not cancel any trip tsubiboy, just go and enjoy . leave Thai political affairs for Thais to solve. We can just help our boys to put food on the table / and on occasion new smartphone in the pocket /

IMHO, no, do not cancel your trip. Once you get to Thailand, everything is fine in most areas for now. No one knows what the future holds, but I would not let this deter a trip here.

What's incredible to me is that a leader of a country is thrown out of office because a court says that the leader with the approval of the cabinet improperly fired (well, re-assigned) some department head.  Incredible.  In fact, almost as incredible as the ruling that the legislature can't amend the constitution even though the constitution gives it the power to do so!    
 
In any event, all these skirmishes await the big battle that will unfold after certain unmentionable events occur.
 
By the way, via a google search, I learned there are 34-35 cabinet ministers including the PM herself.  That leaves about 25 of them to muddle through this mess.  

So does this mean the mob in Lumpini will disperse, my own answer is no they won't, now the big question is will her supporters rise up in protest (my bet is yes they will). And so it goes on and on, when will it end (?), nobody knows and I mean nobody. What a shemozzle.

Well my expectations for my upcoming first visit to Hero and Senso for that matter (in about 4 weeks) will be simple;
I want a massage I want a top to screw me I want to cum afterwards I will be following the sage advice offered from vinapu and that is to trust my gut feeling, if I strike it lucky first time at either of these establishments I will get the phone number of the boy and organise a 4 hands (and two top cocks) massage for my birthday treat later that month. I may even try to get there when Somsak is on and use some of his guidance when choosing but it will all come down to what my gut tells me.
 
I always work on the principal that if I'm disappointed on the first try I will try again but with a different boy.
 
I do have one question for those with experience at Hero, given that they only have a few VIP rooms is it possible to book one in advance (just as they open in the afternoon)? My plan on the first visit is to get there just on opening to try and avoid the crowds.

Don't get discouraged with your a bit disappointing experience, may be lack of chemistry?
As you noticed there is always lots of guys to choose from at HERO.
 
If I'm in the room with a boy I always ask him to shower together and almost never was refused anywhere and certainly never at Hero but some need a little  encouragement to do that, may be cultural thing? May  be boy thought you don't want to shower together.
 
As for recommendation for any boy we need to remember that for many reason excellent boy for one  may be plain vanilla ort even disappointing for somebody else-many factors are involved- chemistry , our and boy's mood, preferences, body shape and hair etc
 
so it's always better to go with your guts rather than just follow recommendation of others
 
Thank you for excellent report and we hope for more of those from you wishing you better luck next time

echoing what Vinapu said... yes, don't be discouraged... maybe the boy was still green (2 months started working yeah), and try to be a little cheeky, ask him to shower together, and tease him, tell him that you'll be very sad if he doesn't want to join you...
 
from what i gather, based from what the boys told me, their priority is to make sure that the customer is happy and cum. The captain will make sure of this, if not, then they will be scolded...
 
ask for Somsak, he's a good mamasan/ captain, the boys are scared of him. He will tell you which one is good and which one is useless. And if you fancy a boy, he will instruct that boy to make sure that you have a good time, he will ask you about your session, so if you didn't get what your money's worth, that boy will be in trouble.. and if you had a wonderful time, don't forget to tip that mamasan ( 100 bht is enough)
 
320 pm is very early, try 6 to 8 pm, its the peak hour. Many boys to choose from.
 
And i agree with you, it happened to me all the time, as you got out from your session, suddenly you saw other boys behind the 'aquarium', more handsome and sexy than the one you chose...  DAMN!!! Tell you what, if you don't have anything else to do, then sit down and relax for few minutes or hour, reenergise yourself, have a drink, chat with the captain.. then go for your second session with boy you've just discovered... the second session is cheaper too.. around 500 baht or 450 bht if i'm not mistaken.. ( tip for the boy is still the same)
 
and if you think the room is too small, why not try the vip room.
 
well... all the best !!!

Ryoyo
I think you got reasonable values for your money - maybe your expectations were a little too high.
You had a massage and after the massage boy fucked you and also there was nipple play. I'm versatile also and this would for me be the climax with me wanking.
I suppose you could have mentioned your requirement to the mamasan. Of course the choice of a new masseur is usually hit and miss, but I don't think you had a miss on this occasion.
Thanks for the report and would welcome more of your experiences. I will certainly visit Hero during my next trip.

I think you have been given some very appropriate advice. I have always found the captains at Hero helpful and tip them for their help.  I always take the time to tell them what I want so they ensure there is no misunderstanding.
I have also had guys where the chemistry was not right the first time, but sometimes found that the chemistry improved the second time. I knew them a bit and better and they also knew me better and what I enjoyed. 
Some customers keep trying different guys looking for what they want.  I have had good results with staying with someone I liked, even if things weren't perfect and working to improve things.

again I recommend xiluzer,  bkkmfj and  ( shamelessly ) mine reports from end of last year, all places mentioned offer both massage and extras ,
 
cream massage is the same like oil if you don't like splashing oil all over.
 
I like part when boy splashes oil and uses his own body to distribute it evenly over mine, usually something hard disturbs otherwise nice feeling
 
massage boys may be available for offs so if you like one just ask if they will go with you, in fact most my offs were massage boys.
 
Off fee is usually cost of 1-1 1/2 hr massage, you may be asked to pay boy tip up front / rarely /. I had cases when off fee was waived if it was later during day and I had paid massage in the venue earlier that day.
 
whomever  you off make sure not only you like him but there's hint he likes you for better experience

Actually I'd consider it the other way around, Thai guy doing me whilst I'm doing the girl, meat in the sandwich style.

Am I the only person bored senseless reading the word libel being thrown about all over the place on gay forums of late... a lot of crap, some people need to have a word with themselves and chill out, we're here ( well most of us are) for a bit of light hearted fun not a legal symposium on who said what when and whether one has a case to sue or not. Thankfully we're not ALL wedded to that American (or Thai) style of living and suing on a whim "just yet" and most people can move beyond such needless idiocy of having such shallow  threatening conversations - and yes I know Thai libel law...the most harsh thing ever etc etc, yes we've all heard it a million times, but REALLY do we need to keep going on about it and talking about veiled threats and the chances of such actions taking place, especially over a simple posts like "who's the owner of a hotel' etc.
 
I mean if the person who was so concerned to post the board owner in the first place simply posted to the board "hey, I'm the owner ( or represent them as they implied), and they / I have been the owner now for ages so we do hope you all drop in for a beer or a meal sometime when passing" -  job done, we all know the truth" and they get bit of free PR in to the bargain for their business too, but hell no, sure lets all talk about possible libel proceedings instead as that's much more interesting - sigh :-(  
 
I just hope no restaurant critic ever calls to ANY restaurant in Thailand to write a piece on their food as at the rate libel is talked about on the boards of late the poor chap will be in court before his dessert is even wheeled out to him ! 

I remember my first guy massage in Thailand (down in Phuket), as it was the first time with a guy the nerves very active, the massage was very good and the afters were such a delight I was hooked. I've had some good experiences at both Bonny and Bangkok massage but will be going further in a couple of months and visit Hero.
 
ethanx, I hope you find the right guy for your massage and extras but be warned they can become very addictive.

Don't worry , this was not about you. Your question was exactly one the forum is for, keep asking and we will keep responding, check your PM too