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The above quote is from your opening post, but now that you have made your intentions clearer, perhaps some of us can give you more specific advice.
As Vinapu said in his first reply, your best venue is Tawan Bar. They generally have several bodybuilder types though it depends also on whether it is competition season or not. If you're also interested in guys who are fit and gymmed but not bodybuilder type, then Jupiter bar might serve your needs too.
From a gogo bar like Tawan and Jupiter, you can call any guy you fancy to come sit with you and you buy him a drink. He will engage in small talk with you (may depend on his language skills) and eventually, if you wish, you can ask him whether he will go back to your hotel room with you.
You need to be clear whether you want "short time" or "long time". Short time is usually 60-90 minutes. Long time means he stays/sleeps till morning. The boy will tell you how much he wants for ST and LT. some boys do not do LT.
You don't have to say in any great detail what you want to do within that time since your intentions are not very demanding. (If you want to top him or you are hoping for bondage, etc, then you SHOULD get his agreement beforehand.)
The boy may be a bit surprised if, in the hotel room, you don't really want to proceed all the way to sex, but he is not going to insist. Remember, these guys have seen many different types of clients.
Do not expect or even ask for a discount just because you don't intend to proceed to sex. You're paying for his time.
Vinapu also mentioned 3 massage places with bigger boys. They are "bigger" by Asian standards, not by European standards. Very few bodybuilder types. On some days, none.
I am not sure how they will respond in a massage place if you're only interested in body worship (I won't even call it muscle worship), because in a massage place, they have a certain protocol to perform a massage. If you don't want a massage, they may be confused. If you do want a massage, then that's well and fine.
The massage shop will usually tell you what the shop's price is and what the expected tip for your chosen boy is. Don't be afraid to ask.
Hope above helps.

Story doesn't say if they adjusted for the increase in average height of adult males over the last 30 years. Nor which countries. 

The above quote is from your opening post, but now that you have made your intentions clearer, perhaps some of us can give you more specific advice.
As Vinapu said in his first reply, your best venue is Tawan Bar. They generally have several bodybuilder types though it depends also on whether it is competition season or not. If you're also interested in guys who are fit and gymmed but not bodybuilder type, then Jupiter bar might serve your needs too.
From a gogo bar like Tawan and Jupiter, you can call any guy you fancy to come sit with you and you buy him a drink. He will engage in small talk with you (may depend on his language skills) and eventually, if you wish, you can ask him whether he will go back to your hotel room with you.
You need to be clear whether you want "short time" or "long time". Short time is usually 60-90 minutes. Long time means he stays/sleeps till morning. The boy will tell you how much he wants for ST and LT. some boys do not do LT.
You don't have to say in any great detail what you want to do within that time since your intentions are not very demanding. (If you want to top him or you are hoping for bondage, etc, then you SHOULD get his agreement beforehand.)
The boy may be a bit surprised if, in the hotel room, you don't really want to proceed all the way to sex, but he is not going to insist. Remember, these guys have seen many different types of clients.
Do not expect or even ask for a discount just because you don't intend to proceed to sex. You're paying for his time.
Vinapu also mentioned 3 massage places with bigger boys. They are "bigger" by Asian standards, not by European standards. Very few bodybuilder types. On some days, none.
I am not sure how they will respond in a massage place if you're only interested in body worship (I won't even call it muscle worship), because in a massage place, they have a certain protocol to perform a massage. If you don't want a massage, they may be confused. If you do want a massage, then that's well and fine.
The massage shop will usually tell you what the shop's price is and what the expected tip for your chosen boy is. Don't be afraid to ask.
Hope above helps.

Maybe it's because most travellers are no longer new to Thailand and thus don't need guides, whereas they're still new to Vietnam.

Maybe it's because most travellers are no longer new to Thailand and thus don't need guides, whereas they're still new to Vietnam.

Maybe it's because most travellers are no longer new to Thailand and thus don't need guides, whereas they're still new to Vietnam.

Maybe it's because most travellers are no longer new to Thailand and thus don't need guides, whereas they're still new to Vietnam.

Maybe it's because most travellers are no longer new to Thailand and thus don't need guides, whereas they're still new to Vietnam.

The above quote is from your opening post, but now that you have made your intentions clearer, perhaps some of us can give you more specific advice.
As Vinapu said in his first reply, your best venue is Tawan Bar. They generally have several bodybuilder types though it depends also on whether it is competition season or not. If you're also interested in guys who are fit and gymmed but not bodybuilder type, then Jupiter bar might serve your needs too.
From a gogo bar like Tawan and Jupiter, you can call any guy you fancy to come sit with you and you buy him a drink. He will engage in small talk with you (may depend on his language skills) and eventually, if you wish, you can ask him whether he will go back to your hotel room with you.
You need to be clear whether you want "short time" or "long time". Short time is usually 60-90 minutes. Long time means he stays/sleeps till morning. The boy will tell you how much he wants for ST and LT. some boys do not do LT.
You don't have to say in any great detail what you want to do within that time since your intentions are not very demanding. (If you want to top him or you are hoping for bondage, etc, then you SHOULD get his agreement beforehand.)
The boy may be a bit surprised if, in the hotel room, you don't really want to proceed all the way to sex, but he is not going to insist. Remember, these guys have seen many different types of clients.
Do not expect or even ask for a discount just because you don't intend to proceed to sex. You're paying for his time.
Vinapu also mentioned 3 massage places with bigger boys. They are "bigger" by Asian standards, not by European standards. Very few bodybuilder types. On some days, none.
I am not sure how they will respond in a massage place if you're only interested in body worship (I won't even call it muscle worship), because in a massage place, they have a certain protocol to perform a massage. If you don't want a massage, they may be confused. If you do want a massage, then that's well and fine.
The massage shop will usually tell you what the shop's price is and what the expected tip for your chosen boy is. Don't be afraid to ask.
Hope above helps.

The above quote is from your opening post, but now that you have made your intentions clearer, perhaps some of us can give you more specific advice.
As Vinapu said in his first reply, your best venue is Tawan Bar. They generally have several bodybuilder types though it depends also on whether it is competition season or not. If you're also interested in guys who are fit and gymmed but not bodybuilder type, then Jupiter bar might serve your needs too.
From a gogo bar like Tawan and Jupiter, you can call any guy you fancy to come sit with you and you buy him a drink. He will engage in small talk with you (may depend on his language skills) and eventually, if you wish, you can ask him whether he will go back to your hotel room with you.
You need to be clear whether you want "short time" or "long time". Short time is usually 60-90 minutes. Long time means he stays/sleeps till morning. The boy will tell you how much he wants for ST and LT. some boys do not do LT.
You don't have to say in any great detail what you want to do within that time since your intentions are not very demanding. (If you want to top him or you are hoping for bondage, etc, then you SHOULD get his agreement beforehand.)
The boy may be a bit surprised if, in the hotel room, you don't really want to proceed all the way to sex, but he is not going to insist. Remember, these guys have seen many different types of clients.
Do not expect or even ask for a discount just because you don't intend to proceed to sex. You're paying for his time.
Vinapu also mentioned 3 massage places with bigger boys. They are "bigger" by Asian standards, not by European standards. Very few bodybuilder types. On some days, none.
I am not sure how they will respond in a massage place if you're only interested in body worship (I won't even call it muscle worship), because in a massage place, they have a certain protocol to perform a massage. If you don't want a massage, they may be confused. If you do want a massage, then that's well and fine.
The massage shop will usually tell you what the shop's price is and what the expected tip for your chosen boy is. Don't be afraid to ask.
Hope above helps.

There is a short-termism that has affected THAI ever since it broke free of its founding partner SAS decades ago. This seems in large part due to political interference through its constantly changing Boards and Presidents - and a heavy dose of corruption. First, it had way too many varieties of aircraft, ready to purchase every new type that the manufacturers produced. The annual maintenance bill must have been huge.
It's biggest mistake, though, was ploughing money into its US routes with an aircraft type that did not really make sense. To be fair, other airlines thought the A340 would be ideal for certain long-haul non-stop routes. Singapore Airlines bought them for many European routes. But once it was in production and orders placed, the international airline regulators increased the amount of time a twin-engine aircraft could be in the air without having an alternate airport nearby. Thanks to significant improvement in engine performance, ETOPS (extended-range twin-engine operations performance standard) was increased from 120 to 180 minutes. Thus, in comparison to the upcoming Boeing 777, the 4-engine A340 became significantly more expensive to operate.
New York using A340s was always going to be a stretch for THAI. Even with an enlarged business class, it could not fly the route with a full load of passengers and cargo. It was a gas guzzler that rarely, if ever, made THAI any money. To service New York and LAX, TG purchased ten A340s between 2002 and 2004. Several politicians including Thaksin Shinawatra were charged by the Anti-Corruption Commission in connection with the purchase but then - not surprisingly - cleared of all charges.
Even so, the A340 worked for SIA's US routes for about a decade because the aircraft layout initially only had business class seating (later changed to a large business class and smaller premium economy). It therefore charged much higher ticket prices than THAI. When SIA stopped using them, it did a deal with Boeing to resell them back to the manufacturer as part of a larger deal to purchase 777s. THAI, on the other hand, tried to sell them on the open market. No one wanted them. With clearly no sense of urgency, the aircraft sat taking up airport space for 13 years and no doubt deteriorating badly before the airline managed to  sell five of them last year for the paltry sum of 350 million baht. Yet four A340s still remain unsold! In the years immediately beforehand, THAI had sold 11 smaller 737-400s for 2 billion baht. 
Now comes the A380 saga with more 'rotting' aircraft being put onto the market.
Interestingly, while most airlines apart from Emirates had retired their A380 fleet, many of the aircraft have now been brought back into operation to meet the unexpected high demand for travel following covid. Most of these aircraft were stored away from their home  base in very low humidity places like Arizona or, in the case of Cathay Pacific, in Alice Springs in Australia, and routine maintenance was undertaken. Did no one in the THAI Board or management realise the huge amount of cash they were throwing down the drain by storing their A380s without regular maintenance in the heat and humidity at BKK? Indeed, why did TG spend so much on the aircraft in the first place apart from as a vanity offering? But that's another question!
I wonder what percentage of each THAI air ticket goes towards paying for THAI's mega errors?

Bangkok could have kept its status as a hub connecting incoming travellers from Europe, Japan, Korea, China, India and Australia to various destinations in southeast Asia and to each other of these further regions. If it had, Thai would have had good use of the A380s. Basically, Thai failed to keep up with its regional competitors such as Singapore Airlines. The latter flies 14 A380s according to a quick websearch I did. It just shows how bad the management of Thai has been.

Bangkok could have kept its status as a hub connecting incoming travellers from Europe, Japan, Korea, China, India and Australia to various destinations in southeast Asia and to each other of these further regions. If it had, Thai would have had good use of the A380s. Basically, Thai failed to keep up with its regional competitors such as Singapore Airlines. The latter flies 14 A380s according to a quick websearch I did. It just shows how bad the management of Thai has been.

Point taken. I don't know what Scott456's intention was but I for one wasn't trying to change the OP's mind or travel plans. I was merely trying to manage his expectations.
I got the sense from his opening question that he might not be familiar with the Thai scene. Typically, when one is not familiar, one maps one's existing assumptions onto the new field. He stated his height (190 cm) and then said he was looking for someone "fit" and "big". In Europe or North America, this would mean a certain physique with height perhaps over 180cm, weight perhaps over 90 or 100 kg. There are fit and big Thais - but meeting those European standards? Don't expect too many.

Point taken. I don't know what Scott456's intention was but I for one wasn't trying to change the OP's mind or travel plans. I was merely trying to manage his expectations.
I got the sense from his opening question that he might not be familiar with the Thai scene. Typically, when one is not familiar, one maps one's existing assumptions onto the new field. He stated his height (190 cm) and then said he was looking for someone "fit" and "big". In Europe or North America, this would mean a certain physique with height perhaps over 180cm, weight perhaps over 90 or 100 kg. There are fit and big Thais - but meeting those European standards? Don't expect too many.

I have, though it must have been 12-15 years ago and I don't recall the details. But I do recall that Iguazu Falls was fantastic and the sex a close second. I think I only had two guys though, as I only knew of one sauna and nowhere else. One was a hunk, the other a twink. But I don't wish to hijack the thread so I will stop here (though hazy memory doesn't leave me with much to say anyway.) But my general impression is similar to what you said - there is perhaps more variety in Brazil, in skin tone, in size, in hairiness, than in Thailand.
Am about to leave for another, longer, visit soon.

I have, though it must have been 12-15 years ago and I don't recall the details. But I do recall that Iguazu Falls was fantastic and the sex a close second. I think I only had two guys though, as I only knew of one sauna and nowhere else. One was a hunk, the other a twink. But I don't wish to hijack the thread so I will stop here (though hazy memory doesn't leave me with much to say anyway.) But my general impression is similar to what you said - there is perhaps more variety in Brazil, in skin tone, in size, in hairiness, than in Thailand.
Am about to leave for another, longer, visit soon.

Another reason why I prefer Asian countries: good quality massage is easy to find. 

I think Scott456 is right. "Muscle guys" mean different things in Brazil and Thailand. The OP said he was 190 cm and looking for big guys, which I take to mean guys of comparable height, plus build.
For those ( especially if they are bottoms) whose focus is narrowly on bodybuilder types with humongous dicks, the chance of success in Brazil is way higher than in Thailand. And likely costs less too.
For others, like me, who have a wider range of acceptable physiques, Thailand works just as well maybe better since hotels and food in Thailand cheaper too.
And as others have mentioned, there's no comparison re safety.

Frippe, you may need to be more specific about your situation, and be more exact about the words you use. Otherwise you may get conflicting advice.
If you are holding a Swedish passport, then you are "visa-exempt" for 30 days from date of arrival. You would have gotten an arrival stamp on your passport with date of admission and last date for departure included within the same stamp. I am also from a visa-exempt country and that is what I get each time I enter Thailand.
Please do not refer to that arrival stamp as a "visa" or "visa on arrival". It is not a visa at all.
When you flew out of Thailand, you would have gotten a departure stamp in your passport. That departure stamp effectively cancels your arrival stamp.
So, that means that once you leave Thailand, that arrival stamp is no more. You can enter Thailand again at anytime and get a new 30-day arrival stamp. I have done that many times. My trips to southeast Asia often involve more than one country, so for example, I go to Bangkok, then to Jakarta, then to Singapore, then back to Bangkok... all in the same month. When i enter Bangkok a second time (in same month), I get a new arrival stamp.
Obviously, you shouldn't do this like 25 times a year. It will arouse suspicion.
 

Frippe, you may need to be more specific about your situation, and be more exact about the words you use. Otherwise you may get conflicting advice.
If you are holding a Swedish passport, then you are "visa-exempt" for 30 days from date of arrival. You would have gotten an arrival stamp on your passport with date of admission and last date for departure included within the same stamp. I am also from a visa-exempt country and that is what I get each time I enter Thailand.
Please do not refer to that arrival stamp as a "visa" or "visa on arrival". It is not a visa at all.
When you flew out of Thailand, you would have gotten a departure stamp in your passport. That departure stamp effectively cancels your arrival stamp.
So, that means that once you leave Thailand, that arrival stamp is no more. You can enter Thailand again at anytime and get a new 30-day arrival stamp. I have done that many times. My trips to southeast Asia often involve more than one country, so for example, I go to Bangkok, then to Jakarta, then to Singapore, then back to Bangkok... all in the same month. When i enter Bangkok a second time (in same month), I get a new arrival stamp.
Obviously, you shouldn't do this like 25 times a year. It will arouse suspicion.
 

Frippe, you may need to be more specific about your situation, and be more exact about the words you use. Otherwise you may get conflicting advice.
If you are holding a Swedish passport, then you are "visa-exempt" for 30 days from date of arrival. You would have gotten an arrival stamp on your passport with date of admission and last date for departure included within the same stamp. I am also from a visa-exempt country and that is what I get each time I enter Thailand.
Please do not refer to that arrival stamp as a "visa" or "visa on arrival". It is not a visa at all.
When you flew out of Thailand, you would have gotten a departure stamp in your passport. That departure stamp effectively cancels your arrival stamp.
So, that means that once you leave Thailand, that arrival stamp is no more. You can enter Thailand again at anytime and get a new 30-day arrival stamp. I have done that many times. My trips to southeast Asia often involve more than one country, so for example, I go to Bangkok, then to Jakarta, then to Singapore, then back to Bangkok... all in the same month. When i enter Bangkok a second time (in same month), I get a new arrival stamp.
Obviously, you shouldn't do this like 25 times a year. It will arouse suspicion.
 

Frippe, you may need to be more specific about your situation, and be more exact about the words you use. Otherwise you may get conflicting advice.
If you are holding a Swedish passport, then you are "visa-exempt" for 30 days from date of arrival. You would have gotten an arrival stamp on your passport with date of admission and last date for departure included within the same stamp. I am also from a visa-exempt country and that is what I get each time I enter Thailand.
Please do not refer to that arrival stamp as a "visa" or "visa on arrival". It is not a visa at all.
When you flew out of Thailand, you would have gotten a departure stamp in your passport. That departure stamp effectively cancels your arrival stamp.
So, that means that once you leave Thailand, that arrival stamp is no more. You can enter Thailand again at anytime and get a new 30-day arrival stamp. I have done that many times. My trips to southeast Asia often involve more than one country, so for example, I go to Bangkok, then to Jakarta, then to Singapore, then back to Bangkok... all in the same month. When i enter Bangkok a second time (in same month), I get a new arrival stamp.
Obviously, you shouldn't do this like 25 times a year. It will arouse suspicion.
 

The short videos posted above of this bar reminded me of Krazy Dragon in sunnee. 
Although I was never a fan of Sunnee because the boys were often too skinny, too fem or too young (or all 3), I did have some fun evenings at Krazy Dragon. DoDo might do well to recreate something of that bar. 
Although Krazy Dragon had a gogo stage which would not be possible in Jomtien Complex, the stage was not key to it's success. It was that the boys would literally come dance on your table. With their loose shorts - another thing DoDo can copy - the boys' appendages were often flapping away beneath the thin textile (no underwear of course). And they were game for a grope or two, for a tip.

The short videos posted above of this bar reminded me of Krazy Dragon in sunnee. 
Although I was never a fan of Sunnee because the boys were often too skinny, too fem or too young (or all 3), I did have some fun evenings at Krazy Dragon. DoDo might do well to recreate something of that bar. 
Although Krazy Dragon had a gogo stage which would not be possible in Jomtien Complex, the stage was not key to it's success. It was that the boys would literally come dance on your table. With their loose shorts - another thing DoDo can copy - the boys' appendages were often flapping away beneath the thin textile (no underwear of course). And they were game for a grope or two, for a tip.