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	Witnessed such disrespect in pattaya during my visit last year. A farang, throwing thai baht notes to the boys/performer on stage. When he did it in nice boys, and xboys, the crowd and boys seems to be ok, or at least tolerate this and pick up the notes. But when he do it in BBB or more precisely at boyz music during the ladyboy and dancers act done by the outside hire, their manager (i assume) shouted loudly to the farang to stop doing that. Throwing money is a clear sign of disrepect in my book. To add to this thai baht notes has their king's potrait printed on it. To have it crumpled and thrown to the floor is outright disrepect.
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	Similar in malaysia. Not all price shown are final price. However, this should be clearly indicated in the menu if there is sales tax, service charges to be added, usually in small print below menu lol Some businesses uses signs like 40++ to indicate its not final price u pay, or 40 nett to indicate that the price includes tax and service charges.
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Immmigratiom officers to have 'absolute discretion' on repeated entries
spoon replied to a topic in Gay Thailand
Yes, usually, it will be asked during point of departure, if you did not book a return ticket with the same airline. At arrival, immigration officer can ask for your purpose of travel and if he deem that you might not tell the truth, he can deny entry. This can include asking for hotel bookings, itinerary/plan for tourist attraction visits, proof of adequate funding. I havent had issue before myself but a travel companion were stopped before because he has too many land border run stamps. - 
	My original arrival time was supposed to be 7pm, giving me ample time to travel to my hotel, clean up, and hit the bar. However, around noonish, i received a message saying that my flight will be delayed an hour, arriving at 8pm. Not too bad but it will be a bit of a rush. No further delay, so after arrival, went straight to the immigration, relief to see that there is literally no queue. Waited quite a while for my bag before heading down to the train station to change some baht. Heading back upstair to take the taxi, no queue again, but the taxi i got asked a fixed amount instead of using meter. As the request was reasonable, i said yes. He asked where im from, and then, some time during the trip, he plays something on his headphone. At first, i didnt recognize it, and thought he was having conversation with his friend. But after he repeat it few times, i finally heard it. Its basically his friend, using a translation function on the phone apps, literally begging me to give him more tips in my own language.... This went on for a while. Its a first for me, especially when i already paid the higher fee since im not using meter. I chose to ignore it and just paid the agreed fee when i arrived. Once checked in and freshen up, i made my way to Patpong 1. Based on recent report, a guy i know who work in jupiter before, had moved to dreamboy. So im interested to see if i can see him in a diff setting, and maybe finally become my first off from dreamboy since it movement to Patpong. Arrived in the middle of the show, i was given one of the VIP table with circular sofa seat on the left corner. A bit awkward sitting on the table alone though the bar is not empty by any means. Many of the boys are already sitting with customers, but i couldnt see the guy i know, so maybe he isnt working tonight. Stay a bit for the show, nothing new as i can recall, and as before, none of the boys there offing candidate for me, except maybe one who is already with a customer. Once i saw the only plausible guy i might off changed to his street clothing, its time for me to move on to my next target, moonlight. When i arrived, the model are doing a number. I immediately greeted by the mamasan i knew from previous visits and he shared with me that many boys are currently doing a visa run. Customer wise, a bit scarce but by no means empty. Luckily, the two guys i look forward to see are still around, and available. Y, and J. Y is myanmar guy who ive off few times before, and J is vietnamese guy i off once last trip. Invited Y for a drink and when offing discussion begin, Y confirmed that he cant do LT anymore. He then suggested me to take J, and J is available. So i informed mamasan that ill be offing J and he proceeded with changing his cloth. We stay a bit for the show and proceeded to go back to our hotel. Asked J if he wanted to eat before heading to hotel and he ask if i want to eat as well. I replied that im not hungry and he said lets go to 7 eleven. Bought some supplies and off we go. Its great to off a known quality, especially when the subsequent encounter is better than before.
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	Rest assured, its coming hehe. Same here.
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	Its about time for me to start my trip report for my trip last month. This trip was a last minute trip planned only few weeks before. Prior to this, ive been in contact with several forum members to see if we can have our trip aligned but im on a strict schedule this year so in the end, i booked a trip for 2 weeks in July, only manage to be with a forum member (not active) for 4 days. I did managed to meet few others who are residing in bangkok though. Anyway, once i booked my ticket, time to start booking hotels and planning a side trip. Booked Furama Exclusive Sathorn for 6 nights, love the location, room was great although i prefer the modern furama hotel bathroom better, as the room that i get didnt have a separate shower, only a bath tub with shower attached. Exploring the options for a side trip, it was a toss between Phnom Penh, Phuket or Pattaya. Ive been wanting to go to phnom penh or phuket for a while now but ticket price to phnom penh isnt cheap booking this late, so maybe will put it for the next trip, hopefully soon. Having read that phuket gay scene is diminishing, i contacted a guy and proposed a trip together with him to phuket if he is interested and available. While waiting for his reply, i started to read back Vinapu's report on phuket, and start to look at options for hotels and location. Ive got to do few nights for upgrades on my Hilton Honors, so Hilton Garden Inn Bang tao seems like a great value for this purpose. The location is a bit far from the action which is concentrated in Patong but if i have a guy with me tagging along, maybe it wont be an issue. If he couldnt join me, im left with either going to Phuket alone and stay near Paradise Complex or go to Pattaya for the rest of my trip. Im not as motivated to go to Pattaya though, since i find out my crush now has a girlfriend lol. So, i was really hoping that my guy would say yes. Luckily, it wouldnt take too long for him to say yes to my proposal. So i proceed with hotel bookings at Hilton Garden Inn Bang Tao for 4 nights, and booked Hilton Sukhumvit for my last night in Bangkok before going back home. Now that all the bookings done, i had about 10 days before my trip to browse through the numerous lists of available massage guys to fill my time there in bangkok, before my guy join me for phuket. There are a few stunners that would definitely make my heart flutter. My usual targets are jey spa, arena and vck, but ive seen few stunners in aurora as well. For the bars, my usual hunts will be in jupiter, moonlight, the one, but have taken boys from banana, hotmale, and former screwboys too, so those are the targets for this trip. Ive yet to find anyone i like from freshboy and the last time i hire a boy from dreamboy was from their previous location in soi twilight, but since i heard a guy ive taken before had moved to dreamboy, i included dreamboy to the list, and visiting freshboy will be at the bottom of my list, unless someone drag me there lol. Other than bars and gay massage, onsen/sauna visit is on the list because the forum member im planning to travel together for part of my trip likes to visit them. And finally, no trip to thailand will be complete without a visit to Prime Massage, my favorite non gay massage place.
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	Shows ended at midnight. Starts roughly 10.30-10.45 so if u are there by 10pm u are good.
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	A quick google says its on sukhumvit 4 alley
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	Cant help with your questions but i heard people complaining about the sound proofing issue on quarter silom rooms, i.e u can hear next door neighbors talking and moaning. If that suites you, you would be happy with this hotel.
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	Its hard if you ever plan to see him again in the future. Otherwise, its pretty easy to ignore in my case. I also noticed some boys will just broadcast messages to all his potential/previous clients once in a while or in case of freelance with tourist visa, whenever he is in town. This one is easier to ignore
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	We will missed each other by 1 day! Im going there tomorrow and will leave july 11.
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	I go with the same mantra when i travel together with someone like minded. But its hard to find one, and harder to find one and get the time aligned, so it is much easier to just travel solo, and meet other like minded travelers along the way. Even when travel with guys, i know its important to give them some alone time. This can be as simple as more time to sleep, or gym time or time for them to call their parents/family etc.
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	Another great summary report! Thank you for your contribution
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	Thank you for another great trip report! Worth the wait!
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	A quick google shows that the location is in between adams apple and new circle club along the same big road, changphuak
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	No term for group of girls?
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	Bangkok also have a few that still have plenty of boys that will be available for you to choose inside the center. One in particular, has no pic of masseur available through website or line. Reason was to protect their masseurs confidentiality. Arena has never disappoint me though with their selection of hunks muscular masseurs available. Vck on the other hand, has both line updates of who is available on the day, and very large number of boys available on site. Similar can be said for massage places in silom soi 6, where most available masseurs will be there for choosing. But their line also have listing of boys, but might not be updated. I actually prefer to go and choose the guy myself, given that tendency of inaccurate/old pics is high, but jeyspa and vck photos are quite accurate, thus for these two, id usually book ahead. For arena, early booking is possible if u know the massuer's name.
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	Yup consistent with google map lol
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	Google map says 24min walk to patpong hehe.
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	Given the popularity of hugs bar for bear and chasers, its only a matter of time those guys make way to the new the one bar. My experience with tawan is mixed bag as well. Seems like they do have a lot of freelancer that comes whenever they want, which could explains the mixed reviews. These rare gem usually comes when they need money, or when they are free only. Sadly, i dont think there is a pattern, but i guess if they have regular job, weekend nights might be when they will make appearance for some extra cash? Sadly, the permanent exhibit of old tawan and i guess The One as well fits the recents trip reports.
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	I think u can buy ticket online. Havent done it myself but that could avoid the long waiting in peak time
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	Im more a shorter stay guy, mainly due to work but recently, i tried going for a 2 week long in thailand, and i didnt regret it one bit. Granted, i do split my time between bangkok and pattaya. The last few visits, i rarely did bangkok or pattaya sight seeing anymore, so i added in side trips, such as chiang mai, vientiene, hua hin, kanchanaburi etc. I do have an advantage of living near to thailand (2.30 hour flight) so shorter trips is more desirable but sometimes work schedule make it easier to just take leaves at the end of the year, when most people takes their leaves. Thus the longer trip. I just finished a work trip that is 3 long weeks, and i pretty much cant wait to return home. I guess 2 weeks or less is my sweet spot.
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	Nice boy pattaya bar lived exactly on tips for gays who pays for boys to chuckwow and cum.