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Interesting. Disney fetish? Quasimodo or Prince Charming? Is this why you don't seem to be venturing out much, eat at 7-11, etc because you're still chasing your Disney fantasy? 😅 All kidding aside, having a fantasy is not unusual but there's a saying that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. That guy from Jupiter isn't a mystery; he's only a mystery in your head. You're in Thailand where, for a few dollars (or more), you can live out that fantasy. And the question is not whether you like straight guys but whether the straight guy likes your wallet. Just remember that in Patpong and Pattaya, the Disney fantasy ends with a happy ending in the bedroom, not in the story.

Yet , here we are ......

That was different. @rd2077's "style" is a " breathless no punctuation" style. Might have been transcribed from a voice-based, stream-of-consciousness dictation.
Or it might have been machine translated from another language. Sometimes we forget that many members here don't use English as their first language. That said, most machine translation I have come across do put punctuation in, although often at the wrong places.
I'm old-fashioned. I've been taught to ensure clarity in what I write. A former boss once told me: if you want to communicate, make sure the other party understands you correctly. It's not the responsibility of the other party to guess what you may intend to mean.
Since then, a whole new generation has come and flooded our media with their styles and I feel so out of date. Sigh!

It's not the "unofficial rule"; unfortunately, it's what most do most of the time, to the detriment of both worthy providers and your forum brothers here. Their reasoning is that it's dangerous to recommend, because others might be disappointed and criticize you for recommending.
(Not only) I take exception to this 'logic', since it's obvious that every report is subjective, and no recommendation guarantees satisfaction.
I urge u to join the 'brave' minority, and name names: point your followers to providers who deserve it.

I subsequently didn't ask forum members about the two fellas when I spoke to them the next day. Neither did I bring up the staring issue with my two guys. I should have whipped up my handphone to take a photo of those two fellas staring!
But upon thinking back on the incident, maybe the two fellas know one of the Viet guys. Maybe they had an unpleasant experience.
Maybe they couldn't believe such a cosmopolitan gathering could be possible. Thankfully, they were not specifically staring at me. I would have confronted them and say fuck you in Chinese!
 

@Shax The general rule in Thailand (and in many other countries) is that the more upscale a place, the more you must be careful to give face. That is to say, these upscale places want to maintain a clean public image, while somehow providing the commercially lucrative services and you must play along.
The above is easy enough to understand as a concept, I am sure, but I think where the difficulty lies, especially for Westerners (and I suspect Americans have the greatest difficulty with cross-cultural issues) is the question "what exactly does 'give face' mean in terms of the nuts and bolts of behaviour?"
It's not difficult to learn. Most Western expats pick up fairly quickly what Thais mean by giving face.
In the specific example of TCS Spa, you can tell that it is an upmarket place from the photos on their website. Straight away, you should pigeonhole it as one of those places where your interaction must be one that helps them preserve a public image of a clean proper massage shop. So, as a stranger -- and a customer is a stranger -- you never talk about sex or ask any question about sex with management. Doing so would put them on the spot that is the total opposite of giving face.
Yes, you select your masseur (they are so upscale, they even call them "therapists") at the time of booking. On arrival, the boy may even go through the pantomime of taking out a clipboard and a form and doing a questionnaire with you about which parts of your body needs more work or less, which parts have had previous injuries, etc. You have to play along with this theatre, even though, as @vinapu says, the actual massage standard in the hour to follow may be no more than "decorum".
Even in the privacy of the room, it is best (i.e. least likely to cause offence and loss of face) to let the boy initiate the first erotic move. Do not be the one to initiate discussion about extra services. Let him go through the motion of giving a proper massage first. The boy may initiate funtime through strategic touching, or may even pose a question like "Sir, how do you want to finish?"
Even though you're in the privacy of the room, you need to be subtle in replying, e.g. "Can you take off your shirt?", "have you done body to body before?"  To maintain face, every question should be very carefully phrased so that he can say no gracefully -- that's the art of giving face. Note: I said ask questions, not make requests. At each step, let him notch the conversation up and you follow. Even on the question of money, let him initiate a request. He may say "Can you increase your tip if I do this?"
As others have advised (and my personal experience too) hand job and body to body is about as far as most boys will go. If you want insertive work, choose a less upscale place, especially if you're the type that must have every service detail spelled out from the very start and want to have management answer your queries.
 
 
 
 

Perhaps leave the colour out , it could be defined as racist 

everybody ?

I tend to be a muscle bar fanatic. But I seem to recall that vinapu once said that he likes to support several bars when he is in Bangkok. Correct me if I am wrong, vinapu.
So, in connection with this thread I thought I would take that advice and inform the forum of my detective work. So for 3 evenings I entertained Tawan boys in my room before they went to work. Boy A the first night, then boy B the second and back to boy A the third. The usual heartbreaking stories of no customers, I can't pay my rent/gym fees, etc. Yes, I am a sucker for a hard luck story.
Afterwards I was free to start my bar crawls and check out the shows. On this thread I've already reported my experience at Dream Boy - lots of customers and lots of boys.
The next night I went to Fresh Boy. Now, to be honest, I don't like entering a bar on my own because of the pressure which is often put on you. So I sat on a step over the road for several minutes until I saw a group of about 6 probably Chinese guys walking up the steps and I quickly followed them. Again there was a fairly large turnout of customers as well as boys. One boy came up to me and started fondling me. He told me through Google translate that he was from Laos and was new on the scene. He wasn't my usual type, and there were others I would have preferred. Anyhow, he asked me to buy him a drink after the show, so I obliged, but then the usual messages came up about how far my hotel was and would I like to take him. I then thought it was time to move on, so I gave him a 100 baht tip and said I might see him again. When I returned to the hotel I thought even though he wasn't my first preference, he was smooth and fresh and maybe I should have offed him. But common sense kicked in, and I thought that maybe one boy a night is enough to pay for, but I will possibly return and see what happens. I booked a fairly long vacation in Thailand and I need to pace myself.
The third night I went to Hot Male. Again I waited until someone walked up the stairs before entering. There was one other person in the bar and about 8 boys on the stage. I ordered a drink and then noticed that the man who went up the stairs had gone, as had the solitary customer. So I drank up fast and made a hasty retreat. Ok, it's a matter of personal preference, but the boys didn't do anything for me.
So I then decided to make a return visit to Dream Boy, where the first show had just started. Two boys had really stood out the first time I was there and whom I would try to off if I go back. I hope I got the numbers correct. 96 was a chiselled athletic type and a great smile. 105 was the type I usually prefer. Tree trunk legs and a muscular body. He got the most tips too. He also participated in a freestyle dancing routine and had amazing rhythm. Interestingly the show was completely different from the first show I attended there. Both nights there were farang male/female couples in the crowd They tipped well too. I stayed for the second show. During the evening there were quite a few customers coming and going.
As for the hotel prices, as mentioned in the thread, they seem to have plummeted. My usual hotel of choice is Quarter Silom, as long as the tariffs are reasonable, as they can go sky high at times. Converting to $US, I paid between $35-50, including breakfast, a night.  I used Agoda. I just checked again and on some nights it definitely is more expensive and you can still get some good deals.
I'm now in On Nut and  nursing a bad head cold and aching knees. I fell over a couple of weeks before I left for Thailand and had some physical therapy beforehand, but obviously not enough. I'll have to get some treatment in Bangkok, as I want to do that new  Lumpini Park walk. And I want to have some workouts.
When I return to Silom I will have to make a plan for the next bars to visit.
Any recommendations?

My No 2 regular boy, has worked in Toy Boys for the last few years (and elsewhere in Pattaya for many years more). He told me a few weeks ago how he had managed to snag an American customer for a few days. He is almost 30, but a small slim gay Thai boy and still very cute looking.
The customer had wanted a long-time companion, and one of the mamasans at Toy Boys was telling the boys to ask for 3k baht a night, despite the dreadfuly low low-season  upon them.  No 2 told the guy he would go for 2k a night and was duly offed; several other lads teased him for selling himself too cheap.
However, the American ended up keeping him for 10 nights, so No 2 finished with 20k in his pocket while his peers in Toy Boys had struggled to find any customers at all and remained with empty pockets! 
The benefits of experience and a practical approach! 😂 
He will once again have me offing him for three weeks in September!

Update #6 
 
This maybe my last update for my Bangkok trip as I am writing this post the night before my morning flight to Philippines via Singapore. Booked a connecting flight just to transit and explore Singapore's Sentosa Island via their airports free Singapore tour.
 
Monday
I slept the full morning as my full body was still aching due to Sunday's Kanchanaburi hike. By 15:40hrs I started to walk towards the good old time-tested Arena for a massage for my sore body and a little fun afters.
As I reached Silom Plaza just before 16:00hrs, I saw their usual boy lookout up on the 3rd floor and as soon he saw me, a potential customer, waived me to come up. Immediately out of the lift I was escorted by the same boy inside the shop.
Inside were around 15 guys of various sizes. I already crossed out the few smaller built guys and shortlisted 4 guys I liked. I don't remember seeing my previous boy Tau there but I'm not really familiar with the boys of Arena. I quickly chose the one with 2nd biggest body, he's a bit aged but still to my liking 😋.
I don't think the prices changed from the last time I visited here but they didn't ask me to pay before going with the boy up the room. Room is just ok same A/C unit directly blasting straight to the massage table. The shower thankfully was clean and no odd smell. I forgot the guys name like how forgettable his massage skills were. (JeySpa's JayJay experience spoiled me)
But at least this guy actually stayed with me the full 90mins happy ending included. Was satisfied and gave him 2000 for his tip and when down to pay for the massage at the counter. I left Arena energised 😁.
I had a quick lunch in Taco Bell on the same building of The Raya before going up to my room to take a nap.
I woke up around 21:00hrs and freshen up. Of course I decided to go to Tawan again a little later to watch the show and if muscle boy K is there I'll take him back to my room, unfortunately he didn't come for work. I don't fancy anyone of the present boys there for an off so I just spent the night feeling the muscles of my number boy K and Muscle show boy T. My other regular number boy D got lucky and got his off this night. I stayed until closing time and met my number boys K and now number boy D after he came back from his off at the corner of the soi by the 7-eleven.
We just sat there at the corner, bought the fried fish balls from lady of the small cart and drinks beer all night.
It was fun spending time with them just talking and drinking beer, though I didn't understand most of the things being said but we are all laughing and sharing stories with D's girlfriend translating for me.
We drank and drank and bought more bottles by driving from the nearby soi until 4am. We finished 10 500ml cans and 12 500ml bottles of beer with only the 4 of us, mind you I only paid for the 12 bottles and they bought the cans and the food.
I was a bit wasted but I had fun and didn't feel out of place and felt like how I did when drinking with friends back home in the Philippines I missed this feeling for a long time. By 04:30hrs we have finished everything and they drive me to my hotel to rest.
 
Tuesday 
I'm wasted and had a slight hangover when I woke up by 0800hrs. I made my self a coffee and went back to sleep hahaha
I woke up by 11:00hrs and started packing my luggage. I also went out and bought more sweets like dried fruit packs and spicy snacks to bring back for my friends in Dubai.
By 20:00hrs, I sent a LINE message to one of the Supervisors of Tawan to check if my preferred muscle boy K will come tonight. I got a confirmation after 5mins and asked if I will go to the bar or he can send my muscle boy to my hotel room. I chose the latter and ask if K can come by 21:00hrs. He has given me muscle boy K's Line and K will be coming as discussed.
This is the first time I will be offing Muscle boy K and I was not sure what to expect, I never got a chance to talk to him prior to this but I have been really interested to check him out.
Around 21:00hrs I met him at the entrance of my hotel and brought him up to my room. Muscle boy K was all I could ever ask for a muscle boy. He was fun to talk to, he's body is amazing and his chest is perfect. Since this was the first time we actually met we talked about what I like without any awkwardness everything went smoothly.
From the showers he look so erotic glistening from the water, his pecs thighs and glutes was hard and plump. We have done things while in the showers that I thought I will finish there and then. 
Then we proceeded to the bed and I worship his body like a greek god.🤤🤤🤤
He was so "enthusiastic" (I don't have any better word) when It comes to kissing, to foreplay, up to pound town 🥰🥰🤤
He was great at making me feel good. Muscle boy K was gentle and yet a beast when he started pounding my back 🤤😋.
After we finished, we chat a bit on bed and I learned he was 2 younger me only 36yrs old, he no longer go to bodybuilding competition only maintaining his big yummy physique. He also has a day job as a Personal Trainer that's why he's only at the bar 4x a week mostly Monday Tuesdays and I forgot the other two I think he said Thursday and Friday. I also didn't know he's with Tawan for 10yrs already. By 23:00hrs I Iet him go with a big tip, along with the bar fine and tip for the supervisor who helped me earlier to get in touch with him.
Now I have another reason to come back to Bangkok next year 🤤🤤🥰🥰
Now I just need to do some final checks for my luggage and do my online arrival cards for both Singapore and Philippines.
I will be in Manila for another 6 days before I fly back to Dubai via Doha on 1st July.

Friday - breakfast at Foodland, swim at pool, shopping, afternoon coffee with forum member and we ended up having massage at same massage shop in soi 6 (with different guys of course). After massage, we went back to change to exercise attire and met at Lumpini Park. Unfortunately, there was no mass aerobics exercise. All public activities suspended due to passing of the King's eldest daughter. Forum member and I ended up walking one round of Lumpini Park and we even checked out the brand new extension bridge to connect to Benjakitti Park. Many people jogging and walking at Lumpini Park including hunks and handsome looking young men. Forum member and I even stopped at bench diagonally opposite facing an exercise area to admire two shirtless young guys doing handstands and pull-ups. Later, I read up on the King's daughter. Impressive woman. Rest in peace.

Yep, that's what I do.
I believe that if god wanted us to save, he wouldn't have created shopping centres, nice restaurants,  international travel and available guys..
But I'm at the stage of life now where I'm getting rid of stuff because I've already got everything I want, so I no longer spend, spend, spend.
It's a nice problem to have at our age, I suppose. But that's what we've worked for all our lives.

I don't have any kids, so what's mine is mine.
I am a baby boomer yet I'm still very physically active and feel like I did when I was in my 40s with tons of energy. When I travel I can still climb up stairs and walk around all day. Sometimes I walk over 20 km. I have a lift (elevator) in my house but I never use it, as I prefer to walk up the stairs.
If I can maintain my health, I reckon I've got another 10 years or more.
Fingers crossed.

Public relations, a pc term for bar boy?

So, back to the “good”.
G ordered a soft drink, just like I did. hmmm no alcohol? interesting.
While watching the big cock show, I asked G if he ever performed on stage.
G said he didn’t want to, as the boys had to take medication to sustain their erection on stage.
A boy who takes care of himself. NICE.
Then came a few Caucasian men with their ladies (I’m assuming they are bar girls).
The girls couldn’t stop shrieking when the big cock boys flirted with them.
And there was G, sitting right beside me, chuckling heartily and uncontrollably.
That infectious laughter, so pure and innocent. It was the moment I knew, I’m taking him with me tonight.
Back in the room, he requested to shower alone first, as he was shy.
I gotta admit, it kinda felt like déjà vu, but that also gave me some time to keep my wallet and valuables locked in my luggage. (Yes I learnt my lesson real quick.)
After I finished showering alone, I found G sitting on the bed, chuckling heartily again while watching funny YouTube videos on his phone.
I did a quick check on my bag. Zip intact, no signs of rummaging. Phew.
When I got on the bed, G seemed genuinely happy to see me, and immediately put his phone away.
PLUS POINTS.
I couldn’t stop admiring that boyish face and manly body, while G was focused on pleasuring me.
After G came, I continued teasing his cock, and he BLUSHED while moaning in ecstasy, ears turning red.
Again, he said he was shy. And I truly believed him. That didn’t seem like an act.
Before showering together, G offered to give me a short massage.
So his day job is actually a masseur, at a shop near Tawan bar.
When I asked if he works at the massage shop every day, he said no.
Because he sets aside one to two days a week for volunteer work, cooking for the elderly and taking them to the doctor.
A HEART OF GOLD. PLUS PLUS POINTS.
Before G left, I tipped him extra to take a taxi home.
But he said his accommodation is just 1km away, and he enjoys walking.
He thanked me for the generous tips, and said he’s gonna buy some stuff for his mum back in Vietnam.
A FILIAL SON. PLUS PLUS PLUS POINTS.
I have a feeling, G is gonna be my regular guy from now on.
 

I joined in the mass aerobics session at Lumpini Park from 6pm to 7pm. I arrived at 5:45pm, bought a bottle of iced water and some snacks then I went to the centre of the courtyard. There were already at least 200 people ready for exercise. By the end of the session, more had joined in and I estimate at least 500 people. At 6pm, there was silence and the Thai national anthem was played over the speakers. Everyone was respectul and stood at attention. After that the aerobics began. I managed to fumble my way through the one hour. I looked at the dance instructors and followed their moves as much as I could. There was a wide range of ages. All adults. I didn't see any kids or teens. Few non-Thais. Men were in the minority - husbands and boyfriends. There were some guys who were alone. One Thai guy in 30s and wearing all pink muay thai style singlet and shorts was near me. He was enthusiastic and moved without much effort. He was definitely a regular. Later on after the exercise, I spotted him praying for quite some time outside shrine at Park Silom. I hope he gets his wishes granted.

What do gay tourists do in late afternoon and early evening in  Bangkok before they go for dinner and visit to the bars? A massage is most common answer. Or a trip to sauna or onsen. Or enjoying food at hotel lounge (for those who stay in fancy hotels). Or just having a nap or chilling in room. I decided to do something different today. I decided to join the mass aerobics at Lumpini Park!

Here another X of the same massage shop: 
https://x.com/CGame4m/media
This kind of accounts often gets blocked. If you like something you see, download it now and not later! 
Not TK in Ladprao any more, they all moved, I posted separately. 
I have been with several, and the pictures/videos are accurate. 
But elsewhere just in written form, there is indeed some false advertising. I have been with massage boys who were advertised as big, but I would call them average. Luckily, that's not the decisive factor for me. But if it is, you should bring a tape measure!

Before Covid, there was low activity in shopping malls toilets. Now I guess it's all gone. 

Thanks, great site, cocks galore!

The above embedded hyperlink includes a dot period at the end of the string which renders the http internet address as 'not found'.
Try instead: https://x.com/gunchai44
 

For those who don't have LINE, I found them on X, too: https://x.com/gunchai44. Never been there myself. So can't comment on the service. 

The ad indicates 56 and 58 cocks sizes. Those are considerably big cocks, for me at least. But if you want something that you can see, here's another massage spa: https://line.me/R/ti/p/@416nhbcm

Eliminate the period at the end of the link to see the twitter profile....

I know some guys hate tattoos....looks like a place I'd go, to see the tatts in person, not just for the big dicks 

Where is it??