Just finished my four day trip to bkk and ofcourse it was better than the last one.

Had four massages and visited 3 bars

Ist day landed in bkk had asked for the car from the hoel in silom freshened up and visited senso

Mixed bag had a back massage followed by happy ending and then the frontal massage

Was feeling very sleepy so callrd it a night

Day 2

Visited one in saphan kavi asked for a four hands from two tops one 56 and one 54 but unfortunately the 54 got changed to 56

Now coming to the actual part i have never bottomed and 56 was hand full because i never got that thing in and was quite sore

Ended up going to fresh boys and nothing to mention afterwards

10 minutes ago, rd2077 said:

i have never bottomed and 56 was hand full because i never got that thing in and was quite sore

Guess we'll have to take your word for it.... I vaguely remember those days 🙄

now on day 3 i opted for the biggest mistake i could do trying the same because inpresssed withe the picture 0n displays 

opted again for a 54 and 52 size with another SK spa for 90 min 

first red flag the boy not responding and never communicated but since i walked nealy 20 min thoughtbi would go with 2 54 tops(which i doubt) never erect inspite of the staight porn being watched. and all over within 50 minutes without zero massage ended the day intially in moon ight butcertainly not my type paid 500 and inmate wer playing rock paper with someone. so left in 20 min ended up in dreamboy and i dont have to elaborate on the same but kind of figured out two of the forum members()

one guy has offed some one but his friend was totally sloshed and all pda and when the friend went to the loo he took of with his pick and when the friend returend  picked another boy and full public kissing and inspite of repeated alert from the so called people in charge he never cared a dam and to be honest he was a damn goodmkisser looked french and i left shortly after.  i wished i have the courage to do something like it

*I JUST CHANCED ON A SPA CALLED CAVE MAN AND TO BE HONEST I WAS GLAD I AVAILED THE SAME  AND IT WAW BRILLIANT FROM THE PREVIOUS NIGHT OPTED FOR A TWO HOUR BUBLE SCRUB AND MASSAGE AND I WILL WOUCH THAT I WOULD HAVE AVAILED ALL THERE SERVICE IF I HAD TIME.*

Sex was an option but the massage was so good that i never opted for the same

 

lesson learned

no mor spas on line

 

 

 

Is kissing in bars prohibited ?

5 hours ago, 12is12 said:

Is kissing in bars prohibited ?

Was it you that used to write every other letter or only consonants , something like that?

.... I get confused by screen names of people I haven't met in person and peoples real names after I met them in person....😏

Anyway, if it is, can you translate the last post to me ? 

Or meet them somewhere before going to room.  Easier to ditch them if they were catfishing you.  

9 hours ago, floridarob said:

Was it you that used to write every other letter or only consonants , something like that?

That was different. @rd2077's "style" is a " breathless no punctuation" style. Might have been transcribed from a voice-based, stream-of-consciousness dictation.

Or it might have been machine translated from another language. Sometimes we forget that many members here don't use English as their first language. That said, most machine translation I have come across do put punctuation in, although often at the wrong places.

I'm old-fashioned. I've been taught to ensure clarity in what I write. A former boss once told me: if you want to communicate, make sure the other party understands you correctly. It's not the responsibility of the other party to guess what you may intend to mean.

Since then, a whole new generation has come and flooded our media with their styles and I feel so out of date. Sigh!

3 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

A former boss once told me: if you want to communicate, make sure the other party understands you correctly. It's not the responsibility of the other party to guess what you may intend to mean.

wow, perhaps we had the same boss?  Mine was an ERISA attorney (barrister - solicitor - as there has recently been a BIG debate on the use of this terminology UK vs. USA).

She always told me the same thing - but with the added twist - whatever you communicate make it very clear and understood so that if it needs to be used in a court of law there would be no doubt on what you or our company intended....

3 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

Sometimes we forget that many members here don't use English as their first language.

I don't. I'm reminded of it every time I read Olddaddy's or pong's posts.

29 minutes ago, mauRICE said:

I don't. I'm reminded of it every time I read Olddaddy's or pong's posts.

I think you're alluding to something which I have long noticed, but rarely say out loud because it comes with a high risk of causing offence. But let me voice my observation now, with an IMPORTANT CAVEAT: PRESENT COMPANY EXCEPTED. I am not referring to either Olddaddy or Pong.

My observation is this: the worst examples of English writing is often seen from native English speakers, not from those who speak it as a second language. Partly, it's a self-sorting result. Non-native English speakers are conscious that they are using a foreign language and think they will not be able to write as well as native speakers, so they take extra trouble to check and proof-read what they write; or if they have no confidence, they don't write in English at all. 

Native English speakers tend to "let loose". If their English is good, all well and fine. But if their English is bad, they may not even realise it, and they write as they speak (slang, highly localised usage, confusing syntax, etc) largely unaware how they come across to others. They are used to people in their own circles understanding them, and since those in the same circles also supposedly speak "English" (note the quotation marks), they all think that the language they use (and write) must be, well, English.

It may also have to do with the fact that those who have to learn English as a second language are taught the language in a structured way -- the nuts and bolts of grammar and so on -- and I have often been shocked how schools in Australia and the US (places I am familiar with) do not teach English that way. They assume the language need only be learned though use. The trouble with such an attitude is that students imbibe the language from their family's social circles and their own peers. If those circles don't speak or know how to write properly, then one cannot, logically speaking, imbibe proper English. And yet they hold the belief that what they are speaking is English.

An old friend of mine, now a retired schoolteacher, once explained to me that something happened in the 1970s and 1980s to pedgagogy. There was a change to valorising self-expression rather than teaching rules of grammar. Coupled with something to do with multiculturalism -- one is not supposed to criticise accent or idiosyncratic usage, instead, we must "celebrate difference" -- much language quality has gone down the chutey.

OK, I've said it. Let the arrows fly!

1 hour ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

wow, perhaps we had the same boss?

Can't be. The boss I was referring to was a he, not a she. Nor did he have any legal qualification, but a PhD in... something (I've forgtotten what).

Ah, but here's a chance to tell a story: There was one time when we were both on a business trip to Thailand. Unusually, he brought his 18- or 19-year old son with him because there was a free weekend following our business meetings and he thought he and his son could do some bonding before the boy went off to university. I too extended my stay over the weekend, but naturally I had plans totally separate from his, and anyway, I was moving to a hotel in the Silom area.

But then on either Thursday or Friday some crisis blew up back at HQ and my boss felt he needed to fly back immediately. What to do with the boy? Dragging him home and cancelling the weekend would be a huge disappointment. So the father asked me: "Can I entrust my son into your good hands? Take care of him and show him around Bangkok over the weekend."

Oh bugger!  All my plans, my plans!

But how could I say no?

So I didn't say no. The boy moved over to the same hotel as I was -- different rooms, ye with dirty minds! -- and almost the first thing the boy asked me as soon as daddy went off to the airport was, "Can we go to Patpong? I've read so much about it."

With your permission, back to the original question: 

Is kissing in bars really prohibited, as rd2077 wrote?

4 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

I think you're alluding to something which I have long noticed,...

No, I wasn't. I was only making cracks at Olddaddy and pong, two characters I'm fond of on this forum. But thanks for your brilliant essay. 8/10.

2 hours ago, 12is12 said:

Is kissing in bars really prohibited, as rd2077 wrote?

Only if you've got bad breath. Seriously, I think it depends on the type of kissing involved, with whom, the venue and, most importantly, whether the kissing between the parties was consensual. I saw some pretty outrageous things at the go-go bars in the old days but values and boundaries change, and things have been pretty vanilla lately in the Patpong bars. Ironically, the youngsters at the outdoor concerts, for eg S20 in Songkran, have become very bold and some were doing everything except penetration from what I've seen on social media. I've also seen some risque stuff at the new-ish strip joints and go-go shows on the Silom side and things can really heat up with some of the guest performers, including one famous socmed influencer who was there for one night only. 

Personally, I go to a bar to see attractive performers perform (it's part of the entertainment and fantasy) and would be put off by an unattractive customer getting all handsy and kissy with an attractive performer. Hence I avoid any of the "hands-on" type venues.

During one of my first visits to Bangkok more than 20 years ago, I remember going to a bar in Surawong, I believe it was Super A (it was a tiny first floor bar on the same soi as the Mango Tree) and saw this wiry old farang who looked like he was barely breathing wobble in with a fem type whom I  recognised as the bottom  from the previous evening's sex show in Soi Twilight. They sat down and moments later the bottom unzipped the old farang and started to blow him there and then! I could see the her head bobbing up and down the old farang's dick. The old farang started to moan which sounded more like death throes and I began to wonder whether this was the Thai version of the last rites. Noticing my horrified look, the bottom told me to look the other way. Where was I supposed to shift my gaze? They were right in my line of sight and it's one of those things that simply couldn't be unseen. 🤢🤮 So I quickly paid for my drink which I had barely touched and quietly left. First and last time at Super A. 

1 hour ago, mauRICE said:

No, I wasn't. I was only making cracks at Olddaddy and pong, two characters I'm fond of on this forum. But thanks for your brilliant essay. 8/10.

Only if you've got bad breath. Seriously, I think it depends on the type of kissing involved, with whom, the venue and, most importantly, whether the kissing between the parties was consensual. I saw some pretty outrageous things at the go-go bars in the old days but values and boundaries change, and things have been pretty vanilla lately in the Patpong bars. Ironically, the youngsters at the outdoor concerts, for eg S20 in Songkran, have become very bold and some were doing everything except penetration from what I've seen on social media. I've also seen some risque stuff at the new-ish strip joints and go-go shows on the Silom side and things can really heat up with some of the guest performers, including one famous socmed influencer who was there for one night only. 

Personally, I go to a bar to see attractive performers perform (it's part of the entertainment and fantasy) and would be put off by an unattractive customer getting all handsy and kissy with an attractive performer. Hence I avoid any of the "hands-on" type venues.

During one of my first visits to Bangkok more than 20 years ago, I remember going to a bar in Surawong, I believe it was Super A (it was a tiny first floor bar on the same soi as the Mango Tree) and saw this wiry old farang who looked like he was barely breathing wobble in with a fem type whom I  recognised as the bottom  from the previous evening's sex show in Soi Twilight. They sat down and moments later the bottom unzipped the old farang and started to blow him there and then! I could see the her head bobbing up and down the old farang's dick. The old farang started to moan which sounded more like death throes and I began to wonder whether this was the Thai version of the last rites. Noticing my horrified look, the bottom told me to look the other way. Where was I supposed to shift my gaze? They were right in my line of sight and it's one of those things that simply couldn't be unseen. 🤢🤮 So I quickly paid for my drink which I had barely touched and quietly left. First and last time at Super A. 

Also years ago,ni recall looking in to the late Golden Cock, when the boys there whipped out their cocks for inspection.  At the same time I noticed that a farang at the bar was being given an enthusiastic  blow job. I didn't  leave!

10 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

slang, highly localised usage, confusing syntax, etc

Overusing emojis?

 

 

10 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

"Can we go to Patpong? I've read so much about it."

And you leave us with a cliffhanger???


 

 

6 hours ago, mauRICE said:

one of those things that simply couldn't be unseen. 🤢🤮

Forget eye rolls.... I felt like I was there reading your description and I almost 🤮


 

 

4 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

At the same time I noticed that a farang at the bar was being given an enthusiastic  blow job. I didn't  leave!

Did we meet back then too?

4 hours ago, floridarob said:

Overusing emojis?

 

 

And you leave us with a cliffhanger???


 

 

Forget eye rolls.... I felt like I was there reading your description and I almost 🤮


 

 

Did we meet back then too?

Who knows!  I did visit Golden Cock quite often. I remember  that when you went upstairs  the handrail, in the right was detached from the wall. It was pretty basic/run down. But it was open in the afternoon,  not common in those days!

1 hour ago, Keithambrose said:

But it was open in the afternoon

I used to invite male flight attendants that didn't have a layover long enough to try the nightlife, to go there with me the next day....

They were always amazed, I said every bar should be like that, sit at the bar talking to friends, getting a neck massage and a blow job at the same time, how awesome was that...😝

sorry for vthe long wait and i never saw the traction here

i am from srilanka and my language is kind of good to be honest

but i do. like usung shortcuts which I never kew was an issue
eitherway the intntion was to have no more shortcuts. and no longer any line app for saphankwai

on the line app

and appolagising for a late reply

i would surely have a next timefaster and would be more gutzy next time for the courage for the PDA

On 9/5/2026 at 12:18 PM, rd2077 said:

i am from srilanka

I'm going in November for my first time..... staying at Hilton Colombo, any advice/hints?

2 minutes ago, floridarob said:

I'm going in November for my first time..... staying at Hilton Colombo, any advice/hints?

Sri Lanka is beautiful and the people are extremely hospitable. Gorgeous beaches with crystal blue waters. Excellent food if you can handle South Asian cuisine and an amazing array of teas. Visit Jaffna if you've got the time and learn about the civil war and genocide perpetrated by the Buddhist Singhalese on the Tamils. I must warn you the stories are harrowing and quite shocking. Don't know about gay life as I was there to attend a wedding and take in a short holiday two years ago.

On 9/6/2026 at 3:18 AM, rd2077 said:

i am from srilanka and my language is kind of good to be honest

but i do. like usung shortcuts which I never kew was an issue

Welcome to the forum. It does sound like you had an eye opening trip to Bangkok even if there were a few surprises - but these things happen to all of us.

Please avoid shortcuts. You're writing to an international readership, many of which use English as a second language. Straightforward, plain writing is best.

To see what I mean, try reading some posts by @Riobard 😆

On 9/2/2026 at 12:46 AM, macaroni21 said:

My observation is this: the worst examples of English writing is often seen from native English speakers, not from those who speak it as a second language. Partly, it's a self-sorting result. Non-native English speakers are conscious that they are using a foreign language and think they will not be able to write as well as native speakers, so they take extra trouble to check and proof-read what they write; or if they have no confidence, they don't write in English at all. 

Kudos to all the non-native speakers who post here in English!

What can I say?

Chapeau!

3 hours ago, a-447 said:

Chapeau!

And what English word is this? 😂

4 hours ago, a-447 said:

Kudos to all the non-native speakers who post here in English!

Yes! Aussies like you and Olddaddy are doing a great job. Keep it up!

4 hours ago, a-447 said:

Chapeau!

Having taken and failed French 101 it took me a while to puzzle this one out. I thought you were advising OP to stay safe and keep his “hat” on….