19 hours ago, ShivRoy said:

(but I tend to go to those nights only where there is that goldfish talent)

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Are we to find Nemo vigorously tricking interactively now? 
 

 

On 1/8/2024 at 7:09 PM, ShivRoy said:

But now to live sex shows. The biggest change I've seen in Rio throughout the pandemic is the explosion of Berlin-style cruising bars. Taurus Bar is just 5 min walk from 117 and is most resourceful of them all. Then there is Seven Bar, the new Cruising Parada bar, something else in Centro, something else in Botafogo, etc. They are mostly non-GP cruising bars, but what they do is they usually haul a bunch of Onlyfans models (2 on a rainy day, 5 on a good day, I've been to a night with 8 guest Onlyfans models) - they are billed as the "interactive sex show" but pretty much 15 sec after it starts it becomes very interactive, and Onlyfans models have sex with all who paid 35 or 40 or whatever reais as cover - it's a free-for-all 40-50 person orgy with a bunch of Onlyfans models in the middle (that's how Taurus Bar does it, and I see it as a valid investment of my 35-40 reais). These are still very local-geared places, and the vibe is VERY different from the GP saunas, but more of these places open, and it's quite an experience. 

This sounds like my kind of scene and a boost to my waffling desire to return to Brazil this year. I looked at Taurus Bar's X feed and the OF models they bring in are not the 9-10 Greek gods who vanished from Lagoa and 117. More like the 5-6 guys - nice and fun chaps, to be sure - who used to grace Fragata and Roger's. 

Does any place in SP (like Chili House) bring in "interactive" talents?

On 1/8/2024 at 7:09 PM, ShivRoy said:

But now to live sex shows. The biggest change I've seen in Rio throughout the pandemic is the explosion of Berlin-style cruising bars. Taurus Bar is just 5 min walk from 117 and is most resourceful of them all. Then there is Seven Bar, the new Cruising Parada bar, something else in Centro, something else in Botafogo, etc. They are mostly non-GP cruising bars, but what they do is they usually haul a bunch of Onlyfans models (2 on a rainy day, 5 on a good day, I've been to a night with 8 guest Onlyfans models) - they are billed as the "interactive sex show" but pretty much 15 sec after it starts it becomes very interactive, and Onlyfans models have sex with all who paid 35 or 40 or whatever reais as cover - it's a free-for-all 40-50 person orgy with a bunch of Onlyfans models in the middle (that's how Taurus Bar does it, and I see it as a valid investment of my 35-40 reais). These are still very local-geared places, and the vibe is VERY different from the GP saunas, but more of these places open, and it's quite an experience. 

This sounds like my kind of scene and a boost to my waffling desire to return to Brazil this year. I looked at Taurus Bar's X feed and the OF models they bring in are not the 9-10 Greek gods who vanished from Lagoa and 117. More like the 5-6 guys - nice and fun chaps, to be sure - who used to grace Fragata and Roger's. 

Does any place in SP (like Chili House) bring in "interactive" talents?

I figured I would share my experience and visiting club 117 and Point202.  

At point202 The lowest price I was quoted for fun was 100 BRL for sucking plus milk and 150 for penetration plus milk. At club 117 the lowest price I was quoted was 150 for everything. Later in the evening they came back in lower the price to 100. Also those were prices quoted to me from the guys without me asking.

Little update, I went to back to Point 202 Wednesday. It was pretty crowded since rooms were free. I asked one of the guys how much their program was and he quoted 250. I smiled and turned my head and he countered with 200 I smiled and said no and moved on. I half hour later he came back and said he can lower the price. By that time I already booked someone from Grindr for my room.  No regrets.

I've been in Brazil 2 weeks and I've only had one sauna encounter. But I've had many grinder encounters. If you want to see a lot of slim muscled guys flashing big erections then you want to go to point 202. Club 117, if you want to see a lot of familiar faces then that is the place to go.

7 hours ago, bucknaway said:

By that time I already booked someone from Grindr for my room.  No regrets.

As a caveat....Saunas come with a known level of protection....The apps, well....zero.

Not a scare tactic, but over hundreds of meetings, all it takes is one to regret it.....and that ONE can happen sooner than later, not predictable,

If you've seen the exchange rate, that makes things, for some, more desperate......

Does anyone know how things work at chupps sauna in Rio? They seem to have just one ot two interactive boys at certain days, is it the same like Taurus and they do the show at certain times or this guy is gonna stay there for a while?

I went on a Saturday late night. Not sure about the show but there were 2 interactive boys start having sex in the dark room and everyone just joined in. They keep doing it when nobody is in the dark room. So maybe they are paid to go at it for 1 hour or so?

Chupps Sauna e Bar:

Ground floor: Reception (i also saw an entrance to a dance area. Not sure it's part of the facilities)
1st Floor: Lockers, Sauna, Bar, Shower and Steam room
2nd Floor: Dark room, cabins, smoking room and a video room

The place is a bit cozy. Not sure when are the busy day/time but it opens until 5 am during the weekend. 

I'll be returning to Brazil in November for a few weeks, starting my trip in São Paulo and ending in Rio. This trip will be a little different because I have some dental work to take care of.

I need to have a crown repaired. I was originally planning to get it done here at home, but with my vacation fast approaching, I figured I might as well take care of it while I'm in São Paulo. It will also give me an opportunity to see whether Brazil might become my destination of choice for future dental work.

Last year, I had some dental work done in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. The cost was low, and the quality of the work was top-notch. So much so that I decided I would return there if I ever needed a procedure that would cost me more than $1,000 here in the USA. I'm hoping Brazil will become another option.

Aside from that, I'm curious about what's going on at Point202. The last time I was there, they didn't have a drink price list. I asked for one, and they told me they didn't have one. Well, I wasn't about to spend money without knowing what things cost, so I went without drinks. I actually visited two or three times without buying anything.

I mentioned here that I would never purchase anything without knowing the price, and wouldn't you know it, the very next day there was a drink price list sitting on the bartop! I have no idea whether this forum had anything to do with it or whether they simply managed to find their missing price list.

So, on this upcoming trip, I'm wondering what I'll find. Will there be a price list waiting for me, or will I get to save my money? (I'm not much of a drinker anyway.)

You would think that with all those hot guys walking around in towels and casually waving their erections around, my attention would be focused elsewhere. But what can I say? The job I love is in procurement!

Haha!

Hello everyone,

I wanted to share a trip report and some tips / thoughts that you may find helpful.

I stayed in SP for one night close to GRU airport after a long haul flight, went to Lagoa of course. And the next day I headed to Rio for a couple of days.

My international flights were out of GRU. But I did the SP / Rio flights from GRU to SDU. SDU is closer to Copacabana / Ipanema I think. I flew Azul, it was fine. Comfortable and on time.

Saunas - 117 / 202 / Lagoa

• Lagoa is not what it used to be. Maybe it was timing but definitely did not see the same calibre of guys as previous trips. No familiar faces at all except staff.

• I realized later that every time I got a room at Lagoa, I was being charged the fully hourly room rate. Even though the GP’s usually finish within 20 - 30 minutes max. In Rio, I decided to get a room for a couple of hours on my last night. This also saved me having to go to reception every time I needed a room. I figured it may end up cheaper and more logistically friendly - find your guy and go straight to the room - not sure if that was true or not…. I still ended up paying a lot at the end of the night even though I only had 1 drink. It only occurred to me later that the cost was likely too high, and I probably should have queried it. Notwithstanding that I was probably overcharged, I am not sure if this approach to room hiring makes sense or not but just thought I would share.

• 117 is a more upscale version of 202 in my opinion. Both in terms of layout, rooms, cleanliness and guys. It was decent on Friday, quiet on Sunday. By 11pm it was shutting down. It is a bit further out though. I stayed close to a metro station but just ended up using uber to everywhere.

• 202 was dead quiet both days I went. Thursday evening around 8pm - 2 guys there only. Saturday around 5pm - only 1 guy.

• Don’t fall for the trap of getting 2 boys … I don’t think it is worth it

• Even though I discussed rates and services upfront, most GPs tried to upsell or didn’t do what was agreed. In particular, kissing…. They would agree but during the session they would go through with it or they wouldn’t engage fully when kissing.

• I don’t ask for leite - 1 guy was persistent whilst we were in the act about offering me his leite. It was a turn off and I eventually ended the session prematurely.

• Some guys will give their leite - even if you didn’t ask for it. And then ask for a higher price afterwards. I just did not have the energy to argue and just paid it, but it did leave me disappointed and annoyed.

• Rates were all over the place but generally in 200 to 300 reais region without leite.

• Rio G sauna is not GP sauna. Mainly locals and some tourists. Good for after beach R&R. No hot tubs though. Worth a visit at least once I think. Closes at 10pm though.

Beach

• The barracas (tents) on the beach provide pretty much everything you need. Chair + umbrella = 30 reais. A “waiter” from the baracca will come to you and offer you drinks and you can run a tab. It’s pretty cheap. They also water, soda etc.

• There are a lot of vendors, but they are usually not persistent. They are trying to make a living. If you say no thank you, they will usually go away. But you can get anything on the beach. Swimsuits, sunscreen, sunglasses, hats, gum, empanadas, hot dogs etc…. There was even a guy with a cake stand with full sized cakes and coffee.

• Baracca Ana #55 was really good. Excellent service and very friendly staff. Baraca Denise # 63 close to Poste 9 is in the gay beach area. This baracca was not as good in my opinion. You can actually search for the baracas by number of name on Apple Map.

• Pack light, leave money at your hotel, don’t tempt anyone to steal. Place your phone and credit card in a water tight case so you can go into the water or for a stroll if you like. If you don’t have a water proof phone case, a vendor will come by selling it.

Food

• Most places I went to, protein was overcooked. Lots of olive oil and loads of cheese. So not the best of options for those of us that watch what we eat …

• I would highly recommend Marcus Degustaria restaurant. It’s an experience, higher end of the price scale but cheap by North American standards. Tip - you don’t have to accept everything they bring out to you. You will get stuffed very quickly. Choose what you like, feel free to decline, they will bring it out again later.

• Etta Bar - also really good. Best cocktails I had was here. Tip for any bar including saunas - if you don’t like drinks super sweet or syrupy - just say “sem acucar”. Most times they will oblige.

• Coffee- regular coffee is just an espresso or cafe americano. Cappuccino is often the premade instant stuff , or they add in sugar already.

• Zona Sul is like a Trader Joes. You will find everything you could need here. Even decent sushi.

Where to stay

• I would suggest Copacabana between Poste 1 to 5. You are close to 202, Black Cat Bar and closer to 117 than if you stayed in Ipanema

• Lots of reasonably priced Air Bnb. Just ask about guests upfront. Mine was fine with guests but I didn’t have any.

• You are a bit further away from the gay beach but convenience of being closer to the saunas. The other thing I liked is that there are rows of restaurants and bars along the beach on Copacabana area, often open till late. Very few options directly on the beach in Ipanema and not open till late

• I felt safe walking alone at night along Copacabana. There is a lot of cops present.

• Gloria / Lapa area is close to 117. Also has a vibrant night life, restaurants etc.

• Pink Flamingo is the main gay night club. The other club is The Home which is more electronic dance - but I didn’t make it out here. There are also Local gay sambey events - worth looking into it.

• There are women working in the saunas, bars, clubs. Women security guards that pat you down. I found this a bit unnerving or maybe it was just in my head. A woman waiting at the top of the stairs at 117, staring me down every time I took a guy up. lol… Poppers are not allowed in Pink Flamingo, leave at your hotel / air bnb. There seem to be people selling on Grindr now too. Don’t know if it’s reliable.

• Grindr is a total waste of time in my opinion in this part of the world. Sniffies is hardly used.

Hope this has been helpful. Feel free to DM with any questions.

Cheers.

Thanks much for the great updates WAP !

It's always good to keep abreast of the different visitor perspectives on the changing scene. cheers.

5 hours ago, WAP_2024 said:

A woman waiting at the top of the stairs at 117, staring at me down every time I took a guy up. lol…

Women in a men's brothel and working security? That would be a huge turn-off for many customers, especially of an older generation. What is the management thinking?

5 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

Women in a men's brothel and working security? That would be a huge turn-off for many customers, especially of an older generation. What is the management thinking?

Wouldn't worry me, particularly if she was slim and attractive