August 5, 20251 yr https://www.fazwaz.com/property-sales/land-for-sale-in-suriyawong-bangkok-u5343516 Just noticed this, looks like the land has been listed since March this year. I know there was some discussion about shops moving out of the soi so just thought would share. For the price asked and the size is this the entire soi?
August 5, 20251 yr Popular Post 3242 square metres. That matches Google Earth's estimate for the area of the entire soi, except for the gated-off part at the far end (reputed to be where the owners live). The big question is, is it in @Olddaddy's price range?
August 5, 20251 yr 102,000,000 USD.... A number too big for me to fathom and then what, tear down or just collect rents?
August 6, 20251 yr If that is indeed the price, surely it must mean tearing town and erecting one or more high-rise buildings. But the soi is too narrow for any single building over 8 stories. I suspect it has to be for the entire soi and the house at the end so that the soi can be eliminated with just one really big high-rise.
August 14, 20251 yr Soi 4 is still for sale on that site. I'd expect the land in this prime location to quickly sell to a developer who could build yet another modern shopping mall (as if there weren't enough of those in Bangkok...). But it's been on the market for four months... I don't know anything about realistic prices in Bangkok, but perhaps the asking price is a bit high, which is why it hasn't sold yet? Let's hope the soi remains the gay hotspot it is for a while longer. I still miss Soi Twilight when I'm in Bangkok, so what if Soi 4 disappears too?
August 14, 20251 yr 6 hours ago, emiel1981 said: I still miss Soi Twilight when I'm in Bangkok, so what if Soi 4 disappears too? we and scene survived disappearance of soi twilight, and no doubt we and scene will survive that too. Listing price may be indeed prohibitive signalling that land is for sale but only if right price will come and there's no rush for a deal. .
August 14, 20251 yr The family have never been in a rush. I would be driven crazy by needing to drive back down that soi just to get home after a night out, but hey who is paying for the night out, and value is only going to go up.
August 14, 20251 yr Popular Post 2 hours ago, khaolakguy said: The family have never been in a rush. I would be driven crazy by needing to drive back down that soi just to get home after a night out, but hey who is paying for the night out, and value is only going to go up. there are unconfirmed rumors that one of sons is gay and had a tunnel digged out straight from Jupiter basement to theirs
August 15, 20251 yr 5 hours ago, vinapu said: there are unconfirmed rumors that one of sons is gay and had a tunnel digged out straight from Jupiter basement to theirs Could he even be one of the go-go boys? Seriously, with Bangkok 1 open and the new development on the corner of Silom/Convent with @vinapu's second favourite Michelin 7-star restaurant also open, I really wonder if there is sufficient demand for yet more malls, offices, even apartments in that area. In any case, if the land has been up for sale for several months, I imagine potential developers will surely need to get some form of advance planning permission for an acquisition in that area before concluding a deal and putting money down. Can you imagine the blockage on Silom with an endless procession of cement and other construction trucks?
November 1, 2025Nov 1 Popular Post On 8/5/2025 at 4:38 PM, Matthew285 said: Just noticed this, looks like the land has been listed since March this year. I know there was some discussion about shops moving out of the soi so just thought would share. For the price asked and the size is this the entire soi? Every unit on soi 4 is on an annual lease (renewed every New Year). The existing leaseholders have been assured that they will be renewed again this year and hopefully some years to come. For many, many years developers have been interested in the soi and could be seen 'measuring it up'. One very busy bar has this year moved from the middle of the soi to the end and have extensively renovated their new premises. Also a new wine bar in the soi. This all doesn't look to me as if big changes are coming. Another question in this thread -- the family --yes the family that owns the soi lives in the compound at the gated end of the soi. and yes, they have a ladyboy son.
November 1, 2025Nov 1 38 minutes ago, Patanawet said: The existing leaseholders have been assured that they will be renewed again this year and hopefully some years to come. I seem to recall almost exactly the same words being used about Soi Twilight...
November 1, 2025Nov 1 1 hour ago, thaiophilus said: I seem to recall almost exactly the same words being used about Soi Twilight... Although I am reasonably certain there was no family living in any compound in Soi Twilight.
November 1, 2025Nov 1 11 hours ago, thaiophilus said: I seem to recall almost exactly the same words being used about Soi Twilight... true, there was even sign ' we will be going on for some years to come ' which did not even last single year
November 2, 2025Nov 2 Just now, vinapu said: we will be going on for some years to come ' which did not even last single year Sounds like something @Olddaddy would write.
November 2, 2025Nov 2 20 hours ago, thaiophilus said: I seem to recall almost exactly the same words being used about Soi Twilight... Let's hope for a different outcome.
November 2, 2025Nov 2 4 hours ago, Patanawet said: Let's hope for a different outcome. as long as Jupiter, Banana Club and G'Bangkok find new home I can live with whatever fate awaits soi 4
November 2, 2025Nov 2 34 minutes ago, vinapu said: as long as Jupiter, Banana Club and G'Bangkok find new home I can live with whatever fate awaits soi 4 Agreed. As long as the various venues can find a new location, it's fine. And hopefully, it's a new location where many gay bars are together and not scattered across the area. Most of the (show/boy) bars that used to be on Soi Twilight have found a new spot in Patpong. But even though they're still together there, the atmosphere is unfortunately nowhere near as good as the old Soi Twilight location. Hopefully, there's a soi in Silom/Patpong where gay venues can gather together and have a good atmosphere. There was a rumor that several gay bars/clubs would open where Moonlight is. I'm curious.
November 2, 2025Nov 2 2 hours ago, emiel1981 said: There was a rumor that several gay bars/clubs would open where Moonlight is. I'm curious. Telephone already moved there
November 2, 2025Nov 2 Has anyone been in the new Telephone to report on it? I was in the area 2 weeks ago but didn't bother.
November 3, 2025Nov 3 10 hours ago, zoomomancs said: Has anyone been in the new Telephone to report on it? I was in the area 2 weeks ago but didn't bother. you are not big on community service , are you ? As consolation, admission from me - I was there 2 month ago and did not bother either but noticed some boys sitting in front of venue.
June 3Jun 3 On 11/3/2025 at 10:53 AM, vinapu said: you are not big on community service , are you ? As consolation, admission from me - I was there 2 month ago and did not bother either but noticed some boys sitting in front of venue. It’s not a bar at all, it’s a late night restaurant with live music. The boys (and girls) bring their customers there to drink when the bars close. There is also a private karaoke room. You may be able to find some bar boys hanging about but no guarantees. Some waiters are not averse to sitting down with customers. But I’ve seen an old farang come in, order some food then storm out after 30 minutes as he wasn’t offered any company.
June 4Jun 4 Active Members On 11/1/2025 at 7:36 PM, vinapu said: there was even sign ' we will be going on for some years to come ' which did not even last single year Here's a photo of the banner that was at the Surawong end of Soi Twilight, shortly before the entire soi closed. They predicted 6 years longer, but as @vinapu said, they didn't last even one year after that sign went up. In the center of the photo, you can see the lighted sign for New Banana Bar, which was the first bar on the right side of the soi.
June 5Jun 5 On 8/15/2025 at 4:26 AM, vinapu said: there are unconfirmed rumors that one of sons is gay and had a tunnel digged out straight from Jupiter basement to theirs One of the sons is certainly gay, even a lady boy. Could be seen daily coming home from work early eveningish. Looking like a cosmetics counter assistant.
June 5Jun 5 Yawn! There are these rumours EVERY year at this time. The premises are all on one year annual leases and always have been. I suppose one year, they will turn out to be realised. Let's hope not for many years yet.
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