ChristianPFC Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 18 hours ago, macaroni21 said: Many here would also have an experience in which, as the session progressed, it got better and better than we initially expected based on first impressions of the boy's appearance. I understand and I have been there myself, what I call first impression "not a clear hit" but then other qualities once we get to business. However what I read in the OP's description, and what I was writing about, is "No Way!". For me, there is "clear hit", "not a clear hit" but let's see how it turns out, and "no way!". When I'm paying, it has to be "clear hit", when I meet someone for fun for free, "not a clear hit" can work. Quote