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The sad part is that the bad GP's who try to upcharge and shorten sessions are the most easily found.

Yes, for sex....the same guys might be charging over 100 on the apps/sites or bars. But in the sauna they're there to try to do as many as they can, if it's slow, they might spend a little time with you, but otherwise expect about 30 mins max at that price.

I've had guys come back to my hotel for 40-50euros , from the sauna.....

Agree 100%. Is why when people overpay, especially by a lot, throws the $$ dynamic out of whack...kind of like Uber dynamic pricing.  We've been saying this on these boards for 20+ years...... Locals have always looked at foreigners poorly because of this, raising the expectations of the guys....then we have the clients that tell the guys, "you know you're worth more, this would cost xx dollars in NY, LAX, SFO, etc.... 

Paying more isn't going to buy more love, paying more might make you a preferred client, but sex is sex to most of these guys..... tell me when you were young, how attractive did you find a 60 or 70 yr old guy 😆..... we've all sat in the sauna watching these guys, that we've been with , making out with some other client wondering, how the fuck is he with THAT GUY, so gross, lol

Based on my research by reading all the posts here. I believe EUR 50 is just a standard rate for having 20-30 mins fun time with the escort in Thrmals. No guarantee this 20-30 mins sesh, including cumming. Sometimes the escorts will agree on <= 50 for a massage too, but the massage would not be 1 hour standard. Just like 20-30 mins as well. Every price point in my reply here applies to Thrmals only

Thanks. I used real life examples. 🙂

I think you meant to type you feel “exploited”? Because that makes more sense.
I’ve been living here in Brazil full-time for several years now, and I can tell you that the asking from the boys / garotos is never-ending. The reasons for needing the dinheiro or the presente can run from the very very stereotypical (“sick grandmother”) to the very practical (“need a new iPhone to replace my broken phone”) to the very creative (“want to buy an açaí cart to become a beach vendor”) to the brutally honest (“I need a new watch to look good for the ladies at the discoteca on Saturday night”). No matter the reason, it’s best just to say no, politely and firmly. The first reason is because once you say yes, the asks never end and usually they increase in value and complexity. Also, it’s a numbers game with these boys. They all have a list of Cliente contacts to make asks for dinheiro and presented. If out of 100 who they can ask, just 1 or 2 respond favorably, that’s a win for them. Now, imagine if 4 respond favorably. In spite what they say, you’re almost never their only option for help. More importantly, all that giving doesn’t make the boys like you or love you any more than the clients who don’t. Remember, in spite of the sweet talk, or the talk about how rough their lives are in Brazil, that this is their job, and receiving dinheiro and presentes from clientes outside of sex work, to them, is just another form of payment for their job.
Yes, be nice and kind, but nicely, kindly, and firmly tell them no. 

I wish the same, specially that it would be three of us as I dragged bkkmfj from Pattaya with to get some fresh air in Bangkok

Thx for the update in both stories. I really like to know how others deals with some “long” term relations with the gp… While I find easy to connect and make friendship with the guys, most of the times it end up with them asking for more and more “free” money, that’s make me feel bad to deny or even to comply , because I feel explored. 

But loved the charity idea …  I guess there is even commercial potencial for a care home for older gay guys where all the caregivers are tall, strong muscular ex (?) GP Brazilians … I’m sure I would love to spend my last days in one of those. 

Was recently in Okinawa and was keen for a spicy massage. Tried to make contact with Stud Okinawa but without success. Moved onto Mans Spa. Booked a 90 minute massage via email. Wasnt able to get my selection but they recommended a young fresh face who turned out to be perfect.
Met him at the door of the room and quickly swapped pleastries. He was a beautiful smooth lad no older than 19. I could easily imaginehim starring as the innocent partner in a Japanese gay porn. We quickly stripped and showered. I couldnt hide my excitement when he started washing me and he wasnt far behind. The only hair on his boody was his tuft of pubic hair surroundi g his quickly growing cock, which was a very impressive size;)
The massage was basic, his lack of experiance showiing. That didnt matter as we cut away the massage after 20 minutes. He was rock hard and lèeking pre cum the entire time. Too be a teenager again!
I would have loved to have topped him, but was happy to just fool around for an hour. We both ended up coming, then showered. When I went to leave he hugged me and noticed I was hard again. He asked if i wanted to cum again. Looking at his naked body and quickly rising cock i ended up stripping off and getting off tother again:)
Id recommend them to anyone visiitng Okinawa. I would advise booking a couple of days ahead if you can. They specialise in young athletic looking guys. While I only say my massuer, he was very handsome with a sexy body and beautiful smooth skin.
I found the massage places using this site: https://gayandasia.com/en/okinawa
Good luck!

Change of plans....I got hooked on Colombia webcam sites....going to Bogota and Medellin with  1 night in Panama on my way to the US. Got a one way ticket on Copa from Medellin to Panama, overnight then Panama to Boston for $205 usd.....cheaper flights for me to take this trip than to go to the US from Mexico directly 😲

At least 10.

+1

It is although at this very moment I'm waiting for my daily chicken with cashews in restaurant on ground floor of Siam Heritage hotel on Suriwong.
Certainly Foodland beats them on speed of delivery to the table.

I've used Uber without any problems. My last visit, an Uber driver offered to take me to Guatapé which I accepted. We had a great day, he was great and we did two sightseeing days in Medellin after that. There is also a taxi option on the Uber app.
I like Laureles better, but I think it is a matter of personal preferences.
I went to St Moritz in January three times, there weren't many customers and the same two or three tops each time. The bartender at the time was one of the tops. I had a great time with him.

A certain forum veteran answers mamasans question "Which boy you like?" with "I don't like boys, I am lesbian" ... Now this is the consequence!

And @Olddaddy's adventure doesn't even hold a candle to that of a friend of mine. She has a PhD too ( don't know if olddaddy has a PhD). She wanted to get from her hotel to a restaurant. Hailed a taxi from the hotel and was driven there. It was a short ride though there were a few traffic lights. After lunch, she asked the restaurant captain to help her get a taxi back to her hotel. Captain asked her which hotel she was going back to. She gave him its name. He said, "ma'am, it's on the same block, just round the corner to your right. You can walk back in 3 minutes."

Ok guys, time to let up on @Olddaddy. Despite this little adventure, he's nonetheless found his way around the provincial towns of Philippines (based on his trip reports), and now going to Vietnam. Not bad at all. Have some respect.😂

Surely you turn right out of Tarntawan, up Surawong,  right down Patpong to Silom, left and you're there? No traffic, and eye candy on way...

I don't have any suggestion but just wanted to say I am jealous that I don't have that kind of energy.  I'd be done after the Arena encounter  🤣

You haven't figured this out yet?

 
 
Nothing more than a driveway.....could even go left out of the hotel driveway and walk by all the massage shops on Soi 6 to Silom and straight up to Soi 4.....

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/119+The+Tarntawan+Hotel+Surawong,+5-10+Surawong+Rd,+Suriya+Wong,+Bang+Rak,+Bangkok+10500,+Thailand/Circus+Silom+Soi+4,+Silom+4th+Alley,+Silom,+Bang+Rak,+Bangkok,+Thailand/@13.7287376,100.5301321,18z/data=!4m15!4m14!1m5!1m1!1s0x30e29f2b57bbee03:0xfa3b367451a711f4!2m2!1d100.5302745!2d13.7291749!1m5!1m1!1s0x30e29f63da81c955:0xf8036748d5d8aa36!2m2!1d100.532753!2d13.728626!3e2!5i1?entry=ttu

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You haven't figured this out yet?

 
 
Nothing more than a driveway.....could even go left out of the hotel driveway and walk by all the massage shops on Soi 6 to Silom and straight up to Soi 4.....

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/119+The+Tarntawan+Hotel+Surawong,+5-10+Surawong+Rd,+Suriya+Wong,+Bang+Rak,+Bangkok+10500,+Thailand/Circus+Silom+Soi+4,+Silom+4th+Alley,+Silom,+Bang+Rak,+Bangkok,+Thailand/@13.7287376,100.5301321,18z/data=!4m15!4m14!1m5!1m1!1s0x30e29f2b57bbee03:0xfa3b367451a711f4!2m2!1d100.5302745!2d13.7291749!1m5!1m1!1s0x30e29f63da81c955:0xf8036748d5d8aa36!2m2!1d100.532753!2d13.728626!3e2!5i1?entry=ttu

You haven't figured this out yet?

 
 
Nothing more than a driveway.....could even go left out of the hotel driveway and walk by all the massage shops on Soi 6 to Silom and straight up to Soi 4.....

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/119+The+Tarntawan+Hotel+Surawong,+5-10+Surawong+Rd,+Suriya+Wong,+Bang+Rak,+Bangkok+10500,+Thailand/Circus+Silom+Soi+4,+Silom+4th+Alley,+Silom,+Bang+Rak,+Bangkok,+Thailand/@13.7287376,100.5301321,18z/data=!4m15!4m14!1m5!1m1!1s0x30e29f2b57bbee03:0xfa3b367451a711f4!2m2!1d100.5302745!2d13.7291749!1m5!1m1!1s0x30e29f63da81c955:0xf8036748d5d8aa36!2m2!1d100.532753!2d13.728626!3e2!5i1?entry=ttu

Thanks.
I’ve found that that they want you to have a good experience because that leads to repeat business. I trust my instincts and am always looking for the guys who smile and appear at ease. I keep in mind that they, too, want to come away feeling good about themselves.

Yesterday's observations. 
Screwboys now is GoodBoys but according to mamasan that is only change made.
Hot Male beer bar street level at 8 .30 more staff than customers.
Went to Jupiter with another member at 10.15. Singer was singing trying to.m outscream himself. What waste of talent. After 30.mi uses I was ready to leave but mercifully walkabout started. Lots of new faces, more than half never seen before which I take as good sign. Tipped most deserving for looks in my eyes hoping for some vague smile or at least an eye contact but ot to avail.
So one sarcastic may say "all normal ". Had he smiled off would be in the books as I freshly exchanged money. As consolation boy I offed in July last year while sitting with another client , recognized me, smiled and came to shake hands . Made my visit there and restored himself on the "Good guys from Jupiter " list.
We were only two farang in audience. At one point I counted 8 guys sitting with customers but only one of them with man.
I was hoping to spot three guys but none of them in the roster yesterday. Add to this 4 guys I was hoping to see in Pattaya in previous 2 days,  who were also gone at least temporarily and warning comes to mind not to count on seeing guy we are dreaming about before our trip.
Show bit more progressive than used to be with  ot one but two rigid members presented unobstructively.
Former New Twilight and then Queens Club is now @smiles , lesbian bar for tomboys according to handsome guy who emerged from the door.
Banana Club packed for the show at midnight but only 3 farangs detected including undersigned humble nobody.