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The club say  'No' as otherwise they may not get a license or renewal.  Of course as hinted   in other posts above then perhaps in the privacy of the massage room who knows; to quote a famous USA quiz show: 
"if the price is right".
 The unofficial answer is perhaps "Yes'.
TiT.

Samui is a very small island. Somehow I was able to read that text, go in and have a wonderful time.
 

The club say  'No' as otherwise they may not get a license or renewal.  Of course as hinted   in other posts above then perhaps in the privacy of the massage room who knows; to quote a famous USA quiz show: 
"if the price is right".
 The unofficial answer is perhaps "Yes'.
TiT.

The club say  'No' as otherwise they may not get a license or renewal.  Of course as hinted   in other posts above then perhaps in the privacy of the massage room who knows; to quote a famous USA quiz show: 
"if the price is right".
 The unofficial answer is perhaps "Yes'.
TiT.

We went to Koh Samui in July 2023 and had a great time. The frequent rain storms meant we needed to pivot from snorkeling to getting massages and wow did we have a great time. There are very few options on the small island of Samui, but the good news is that I actually had my BEST massage experience ever.
Emerald Green Men's Club - owned by a lovely couple from New Zealand, I wasn't sure we would go there as the prices are more than we have seen elsewhere. After a disastrous session at Gay Massage (nice name) also named Kay Massage in Samui, we decided to splurge and go to Emerald Green. WOW. I would return to Samui just to go to this amazing establishment.
You walk into a beautiful reception room that smells amazing, is spotless (not even a chip in the paint, not a spider in the corner of the ceiling, nothing) and Bruce sits you down and reviews the menu and chats with you in his engaging way. He reviews your choices and then reviews the "rules." Here I must be discrete so don't let them throw you too much.
Then he leads you to a shower (pay at end of session, opposite of Bangkok) with curtain and big fluffy towel that compared to our 5-star resort's towels. That good. You stow your clothes in a locking locker, put on a sarong and go upstairs carrying your key and led by your therapist. Therapists are assigned and cannot be requested at least when you are new there. The massage private rooms are beautiful, clean, smell wonderful, perfect temperature and lighting. 
Here again I must be discrete, but let me say that my two massages here by two different therapists were the best I have ever had. Period. Their model is different than the Bangkok model. The masseuses here are actually employees with health benefits etc and are on salary. Minimum tip is 300 baht but it's only a suggestion. I tipped 1000. Worth every penny. So the advantage of employees vs independent agents (the Bangkok model) is that there is formal training for massage and they are highly skilled. You will be in bliss city.
This, along with a dinner at Saffron, was a highlight of our visit. If you are in Samui, GO to Emerald Green Men's Club. Tell Bruce the boys from San Francisco say hello!!
 
PS I should note that my husband did have a therapist he enjoyed at Kay Gay Massage. I was repulsed by the filth and the shower and my massage was mediocre there. But it's cheap and definitely follows more of the Bangkok model.

I agree about the drinks prices: horrendous and ludicrous. 
Best to stay away!

Yes, and to be super safe...the massage boy can watch as he relieves himself with his hand....
😀

Stick with massages with hand job happy endings, you'll be fine.

I agree if you wand second drink and invite a boy sitting with your bill is jumping to 1500 Bht before tipping the staff , off fee and tip the boy in room which can summ up to 4500-5000 bht, It's excessive. 

I also visited Pattaya on one of my first visits to Thailand. It was in the early 1980s just as the gay scene was starting to develop. I enjoyed the beach, but during the infrequent visits I have made since then the beach has become a reason for not visiting. I realise it's close to Bangkok but I like a beach to be a proper beach with white sand and great clean water. The Thai guys who'd come down in the late afternoon were certainly an added attraction. But in those days, there were a few go-go bars in Bangkok with great young guys and nudity after around 9:30 pm. But not in Pattaya. Hence Bangkok was more interesting.
And so it has remained. That said, I did enjoy staying at the small, isolated 6 bungalow Le Prive on Thappraya Soi 1 when it was run by the two French guys. Not sure what it is like now. I also enjoyed staying at the Rabbit Resort and Deborah's always warm welcome. Both were easy to bring gay nighttime visitors. I did visit some of the bars but apart from a couple I still found Bangkok more interesting and enjoyable. Now I am more settled down, even the Bangkok bars in their new locations hold little interest.
But I still love a great beach. I used to love Nai Harn and some other beaches in Phuket but not since the real tourism invasion a decade or so ago. Have written elsewhere that I think Khao Lak is wonderful for its peace and fantastic beach.

Few in Thailand though have equalled the beach on nearby Phu Quoc Island in Vietnam. It is actually relatively close as it is located just under Sihanoukville.

I agree about the drinks prices: horrendous and ludicrous. 
Best to stay away!

More importantly perhaps if they're saying that the charge was ILLEGALLY gratifying sexual desire of another person does that then suggest that there's a LEGAL way of providing that service in Thailand as I thought THAT for sure WAS still illegal ! ? 🙂
 

Who needs fitness center when Foodland is opened 7/24?

I wonder which fitness center is this. 200 baht entry sounds more like a sauna rate lol

I love Line, very easy to use and communicate. My problem with Line is that some boys just abuse it by sending tons of irrelevant messages and emoticons and some business accounts also are spamming like there's no tomorrow. But I guess it comes with inventory so I stick to Line through thick and thin.
Yes , I like vacation action packed and often I think it's time to slow and enjoy cup of tea in the room more often. But I'm energized by big cities and in Bangkok I feel like  24 hours is not enough.

preferred course of action would be sooner AND later

Thank you for another great trip report Vinapu.
Well written trip reports like yours really are the the best of this forum.

Final reflections
 Best thing about that trip was that it was entirely unplanned and unexpected. Last time I had such fast decision trip to Thailand was back in 2013 , also in May. I found it very energizing waking up in the morning to find out by midnight than in 2 days I’m flying to other end of world.
 That’s advantage of being retired as such feast would be hardly doable in normal 9-5 working conditions.
 Because luggage was free I was hauling more  goodies than usually when I travel just with carry on  and found it bit tiring considering my habit of changing hotels every 2-3 nights. Perhaps time to  try more permanent arrangement next time like changing place only once per trip.
 I’m happy I decided to return to butterflying giving every bar  a chance. I’m still warming toward Jupiter and after two visit this trip I’m more than half  way there. It used to be bar I did not like at all so it’s great improvement. Line up on my 1st visit this trip was truly impressive,  as I mentioned I like 100 % of what was on offer.
 My disappointment was unspoken so far in report. Last trip I spotted  some hunk in Thai Relax massage in soi 6 on my last day and he was not available. I hoped to see him this trip but he went home for good according to other boys from that venue.
ST from Tawan was great find of this trip  shining both with personality and body. He probably realized that and was bit costly but I liked him very much thank you and only can hope he will be there next time. Along with Y from Moonlight and S from HotMale, all offed twice they were my trip heroes.
Masseur N who extracted 5 sessions from me had best chance to be super star but spoiled it a bit by not reading me properly – I don’t like irrelevant or nosy messages like ‘how are you ?’ or “what you are doing now ?” he was bombarding me on Line even if I know there were well meaning and supposed to show he cares. It’s funny situation as I like guy a lot and his massage was by far the best I had in a few trips and in the room he performed as I liked plus plus,  I still had moments I was mad at him. And this is actually not funny.
Overall Line is great tool to hook up and communicate with guys but sometimes I wonder if it’s really worth of trouble to give boys my Line because of such case of abuse so to speak. On another hand it was life saver when due to holiday bars were closed but I managed to utilize my contacts and pull it as best day of the whole trip.
 Tawan with Banana in second place continue to be most friendly bars as far as I see even if Tawan boys are trying to abuse my wallet but at least they do it good natured way and understand word NO without any grimaces .
 As for massage Jey Spa continues to be my post Covid massage central and both guys I had there were gold standard how session and masseur  should look like . Not for first time I noticed that with price service standard goes up which theoretically it’s how it’s supposed to be but we all know it’s far from reality.
 I was concerned I’m losing thing for Thai boys with few voluntary empty nights which almost never happened before,  but now , with cold head I see that perhaps it’s bit of natural. After overheating cool down time should come. If I don’t feel like having companion why should I torment myself with looking for one ?
 Two boys pissed me off , one by not showing and another one by asking for dink and leaving me promptly which was more painful due to fact we had common history with either one. My revenge was simply to skip off this trip and tell them why. At least one confirmed that he got the message.
Prices are going up. I’m not taking vacations to save money as staying home does better job but had few sticker shocks – 1000 off fee at BoyzBoyZBoyz, 900 massage fee at Tawan, 6000 long time request from Tawan Boy( declined). I think time will come when some haggling will be in order.
I praise myself for idea of breaking my trip by going to Kuala Lumpur and I’m eternally grateful to my local friend there for being my guide and companion.
 Finally heartfelt thank you to reader, Anddy, Jason 1975 and ChristianPFC for all those meals  and bar visits together.
 Due to family and my personal issues timing of my next trip is unknown but working on it. Brutal truth is , whatever plans I may make they may be ruined at the short notice. Ever optimist I hope for at least one more this year or early next one.

not that you have much snow in Pattaya

White stuff everywhere... Who needs snow?
There is a lot of be said for an ocean breeze. 

If they didn't there will be a news story later today I'm sure. 
They always pay....
I have seen people escorted to ATMs multiple times. Sometimes by the BIB! 

I won't go into detail but many years ago I went into a Go Go bar and had forgotten my wallet..
I was forced to give the farang owner a blowjob as payment .
 

I agree about the drinks prices: horrendous and ludicrous. 
Best to stay away!

I agree about the drinks prices: horrendous and ludicrous. 
Best to stay away!

500 baht for a bottle of beer
3500 for a bottle of red label
For real?