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I would suggest reading trip reports on this and the other boards.  I would make sure to read the trip reports from Smiles, Trongpai, and especially Christianpfc.
 
I would urge you to take time to read Christianpfc's blog.  He has a great many detailed trip reports, and many of those include reports about places to go that most tourists are not familiar with.  See:  http://www.christianpfc.blogspot.com/
 
If you have aditional questions for Christianpfc, just post them.  He reads the boards nearly every day and I'm sure he'll be happy to answer questions.

I would suggest reading trip reports on this and the other boards.  I would make sure to read the trip reports from Smiles, Trongpai, and especially Christianpfc.
 
I would urge you to take time to read Christianpfc's blog.  He has a great many detailed trip reports, and many of those include reports about places to go that most tourists are not familiar with.  See:  http://www.christianpfc.blogspot.com/
 
If you have aditional questions for Christianpfc, just post them.  He reads the boards nearly every day and I'm sure he'll be happy to answer questions.

I would suggest reading trip reports on this and the other boards.  I would make sure to read the trip reports from Smiles, Trongpai, and especially Christianpfc.
 
I would urge you to take time to read Christianpfc's blog.  He has a great many detailed trip reports, and many of those include reports about places to go that most tourists are not familiar with.  See:  http://www.christianpfc.blogspot.com/
 
If you have aditional questions for Christianpfc, just post them.  He reads the boards nearly every day and I'm sure he'll be happy to answer questions.

I would suggest reading trip reports on this and the other boards.  I would make sure to read the trip reports from Smiles, Trongpai, and especially Christianpfc.
 
I would urge you to take time to read Christianpfc's blog.  He has a great many detailed trip reports, and many of those include reports about places to go that most tourists are not familiar with.  See:  http://www.christianpfc.blogspot.com/
 
If you have aditional questions for Christianpfc, just post them.  He reads the boards nearly every day and I'm sure he'll be happy to answer questions.

I say the same thing every time posts similar to this one shows up.  It's foolish to seek medical advice, any medical advice, on a message board.  If you want to know if it's safe to repeatedly use Kamagra, get your answer from a doctor, not from a message board.
 
Even if someone posts that he uses it after only 9 or 10 hours without ill effects and even if he says his own doctor told him it's safe to use, that's fine for him, but it's not necessarily fine for you.  And especially when it comes to that area of your body, you might have to pay for a doctor's advice, but don't you think it's worth it rather than taking any risks?
 
I'd feel a lot more comfortable about using it if my doctor tells me it's safe than I would if an anonymous poster on a message board tells me it's safe.  Conversely, I would still want to know what my doctor says if someone posts that it's unsafe.

I'm with firecat69 on this.  Most people who argue that an agreed price of under 1000 baht is what ought to be paid are the same people who spend a lot of money on airfare alone just getting here, stay in relatively expensive hotels, eat in good restaurants, have plenty of drinks, andtreat themselves very nicely.
 
Meanwhile, when it comes to the boys, far too many farang try to get them to agree to as low a price as possible.  The boys are the main reason many come here in the first place, aren't they?
 
My opinion - short time 1000 baht minimum.  Long time, including overnight, 1500 to 2000 baht minimum.  I think everyone here is well aware that this is how the boys make their living.  Why on earth anyone would be out to deprive them, just to save themselves a couple hundred baht, goes beyond me - far beyond me. 
 
If you really have to save money, just as if a few thousand baht more in tips would ruin your holiday, then cut back on drinks, eat less expensive meals, but don't be a cheapskate with the boys. 

The question was would half a Viagra do the trick?  I don't know.  And if you're not a doctor, neither do you.  If you're going to try to medicate him into an erection, which in my opinion is a wrong thing to do, then the least you could do is take him to a qualified doctor and have him examined to rule out a physical problem.  If nothing physical prevents him from getting an erection, ask the doctor what, if anything, can be done and would be the appropriate course of treatment for him, if he wants any treatment.  But don't start taking it upon yourself to start prescibing for him.

"Why, I had no idea."
-  Gregory Peck (Cleve Van Valen), 'How The West Was Won'

"You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!"
-  Rudyard Kipling

I'm with firecat69 on this.  Most people who argue that an agreed price of under 1000 baht is what ought to be paid are the same people who spend a lot of money on airfare alone just getting here, stay in relatively expensive hotels, eat in good restaurants, have plenty of drinks, andtreat themselves very nicely.
 
Meanwhile, when it comes to the boys, far too many farang try to get them to agree to as low a price as possible.  The boys are the main reason many come here in the first place, aren't they?
 
My opinion - short time 1000 baht minimum.  Long time, including overnight, 1500 to 2000 baht minimum.  I think everyone here is well aware that this is how the boys make their living.  Why on earth anyone would be out to deprive them, just to save themselves a couple hundred baht, goes beyond me - far beyond me. 
 
If you really have to save money, just as if a few thousand baht more in tips would ruin your holiday, then cut back on drinks, eat less expensive meals, but don't be a cheapskate with the boys. 

In Pattaya there is only one - the Sansuk Sauna.  See:  http://www.sansukpattaya.com/
 
 

I agree with firecat69's response.  I see no problem about giving a boy 800 baht if that's what he asks for.  No objection.  That's the boy's choice, but that's not the problem.  The problem is when the customer tries to get the boy to agree to a lower price.
 
I always give the boy his taxi fare in additon to the tip.  Since I live on "The Dark Side," depending on where the boy is coming from the taxi fare usually ranges between 100 to 160 baht, each way.  Probably for most of you, his taxi fare will be less than 50 baht, each way if he's coming to you as an outcall.  Once in awhile a boy has his own, or a friend's motorbike and (rarely) the boy even has his own car.
 
Don't forget, not every boy is a money boy, but if a boy is working in a bar, it's a sure bet he is.  I've met my share of boys who refuse to take any money at all, but that's never happened with a bar boy.
 
One other thing that's never happened, and ain't no way, no how, it ever will - a boy offering to pay me . . .

I'm with firecat69 on this.  Most people who argue that an agreed price of under 1000 baht is what ought to be paid are the same people who spend a lot of money on airfare alone just getting here, stay in relatively expensive hotels, eat in good restaurants, have plenty of drinks, andtreat themselves very nicely.
 
Meanwhile, when it comes to the boys, far too many farang try to get them to agree to as low a price as possible.  The boys are the main reason many come here in the first place, aren't they?
 
My opinion - short time 1000 baht minimum.  Long time, including overnight, 1500 to 2000 baht minimum.  I think everyone here is well aware that this is how the boys make their living.  Why on earth anyone would be out to deprive them, just to save themselves a couple hundred baht, goes beyond me - far beyond me. 
 
If you really have to save money, just as if a few thousand baht more in tips would ruin your holiday, then cut back on drinks, eat less expensive meals, but don't be a cheapskate with the boys. 

I'm with firecat69 on this.  Most people who argue that an agreed price of under 1000 baht is what ought to be paid are the same people who spend a lot of money on airfare alone just getting here, stay in relatively expensive hotels, eat in good restaurants, have plenty of drinks, andtreat themselves very nicely.
 
Meanwhile, when it comes to the boys, far too many farang try to get them to agree to as low a price as possible.  The boys are the main reason many come here in the first place, aren't they?
 
My opinion - short time 1000 baht minimum.  Long time, including overnight, 1500 to 2000 baht minimum.  I think everyone here is well aware that this is how the boys make their living.  Why on earth anyone would be out to deprive them, just to save themselves a couple hundred baht, goes beyond me - far beyond me. 
 
If you really have to save money, just as if a few thousand baht more in tips would ruin your holiday, then cut back on drinks, eat less expensive meals, but don't be a cheapskate with the boys. 

I agree.  I have seen exceptions where such relationships did work and work well, but those are rare and the odds are certainly against it - especially if the farang starts trying to control the boy's life.  I've seen a great many more unhappy breakups than success stories.
 
I'm sure some will disagree with me, but based on what I've seen over the years, the safest way to avoid heartbreak, jealousy, disillusionment, and a much lighter bank account is to adhere to what I call The Richard Burk Philosophy.  Many years ago Richard gave me this advice:
 
"If you want love in Thailand, rent it."

I suspect this was a troll post all along.  And if it wasn't intended to be a troll post, it was still a troll post . . .

The question was would half a Viagra do the trick?  I don't know.  And if you're not a doctor, neither do you.  If you're going to try to medicate him into an erection, which in my opinion is a wrong thing to do, then the least you could do is take him to a qualified doctor and have him examined to rule out a physical problem.  If nothing physical prevents him from getting an erection, ask the doctor what, if anything, can be done and would be the appropriate course of treatment for him, if he wants any treatment.  But don't start taking it upon yourself to start prescibing for him.

I agree.  Unless it's a blatantly obvious troll post, assuming someone is a troll after just one post is a little too quick on the draw for me.  When I made my first trip to Thailand I had more questions than Carter's has liver pills.  Besides, sometimes even troll posts raise questions and issues of general interest. 
 
Everybody here made a first trip to Thailand.  Most knew little or nothing on their first trip and sometimes to me it looks as if a few who have made multiple trips still know little or nothing.

Vinapu is right.  A board owner can set the time limit for editing and/or deleting one's own post.  On this board I think it's about one hour.  After that, the icons for editing and deleting will disappear.

I agree.  Unless it's a blatantly obvious troll post, assuming someone is a troll after just one post is a little too quick on the draw for me.  When I made my first trip to Thailand I had more questions than Carter's has liver pills.  Besides, sometimes even troll posts raise questions and issues of general interest. 
 
Everybody here made a first trip to Thailand.  Most knew little or nothing on their first trip and sometimes to me it looks as if a few who have made multiple trips still know little or nothing.

While I can understand why they do that, the sauna is the wrong place for them to be trying to get people to give them money.  They're not supposed to do that and as a customer you're supposed to report it to the management.
 
The last thing the sauna wants is for boys to be trying to get money out of sauna customers. 

Also, if you wish to go to and from by motorbike taxi, you won't have any problem getting there.  Going from Sansuk could be a different matter.  It might not be so easy to find one unless you trek back up to Thappraya Road.
 
The solution to that is to carry a mobile phone with you.  The taxi driver who takes you to Sansuk will be delighted to return and pick you up, and then take you wherever you want to go from there.  All you have to do is get his phone number and let him know to expect your call.
 
Of course, you can do the same thing any time you have a motorbike taxi take you to a location where taxis for your return trip are not readily available.  Believe me, the driver will be happy to return to take you.  Notice that motorbike taxi drivers spend most of their time just sitting around, hoping for a fare.  That's why you won't have any trouble getting the driver to come to pick you up, wherever you are.

Also, if you wish to go to and from by motorbike taxi, you won't have any problem getting there.  Going from Sansuk could be a different matter.  It might not be so easy to find one unless you trek back up to Thappraya Road.
 
The solution to that is to carry a mobile phone with you.  The taxi driver who takes you to Sansuk will be delighted to return and pick you up, and then take you wherever you want to go from there.  All you have to do is get his phone number and let him know to expect your call.
 
Of course, you can do the same thing any time you have a motorbike taxi take you to a location where taxis for your return trip are not readily available.  Believe me, the driver will be happy to return to take you.  Notice that motorbike taxi drivers spend most of their time just sitting around, hoping for a fare.  That's why you won't have any trouble getting the driver to come to pick you up, wherever you are.

While I can understand why they do that, the sauna is the wrong place for them to be trying to get people to give them money.  They're not supposed to do that and as a customer you're supposed to report it to the management.
 
The last thing the sauna wants is for boys to be trying to get money out of sauna customers. 

Well, yes and no.  As far as I can tell, the boys still wear whatever they want.  Only a few wear thongs and the ones I saw wearing them were quite fem.
 
Back in January a topic appeared on the Sawatdee board titled "Buy Sexy Underwear."  For the full topic, see:  http://sawatdeenetwork.com/forum/buy-sexy-underwear-t31617.html
 
As for thongs, you might be interested in two posts I made on that topic.  Here are copies of the relevant parts of my posts:
 
 
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