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Thanks for the reply. I already read both your reports christian before creating this thread. I guess yours is the latest.

Lol, i dont judge people but i judge people behaviour. Same with boys, i dont mind offing a smoker but just dont smoke in my face lol

I have read a few sources off the internet of hatyai gay club, massage and sauna, mostly quite old though. Given that these places can be in business one day and not another day, appreciate if anyone have any visit/trip report on the southern paet of thailand?

At least farting isn't carcinogen nor dangerous to your health. And the smells doesnt lingers forever. But try having a dog poop in the tent instead. Lol

Maybe one day we could group all non smokers and visit the bar, and as soon as one person light up a smoke, we all stand up and leave the bars. Pretty sure if the owner see this, theyll get the message.

I for one also dont smoke and dont like the smell of smoke. Its not just unpleasant to me but it irritates my nose and throats. Many restaurant in my country have smoking and non smoking sections, i wonder if the bars can do that as well. I wont go as far as telling off people who smoke near me, id simply cough like my lungs is his and move away. Similar response when someone who just pooped his pants walking near me. Run lola run. That being said, i have utmost respect for smokers who are considerate, smoking outside and away from others. Smoking is an addiction, which is a disease, might start by choice but not quitting isnt always a choice.

Fyi, second guy pic is very close to real in person. Ive tried him a twice, and my experience was similar, he gives really strong massage but the fun part wasnt as engaging, no kissing but his body is awesome lol. And handsome too. Hence the second time lol.

Hanoi and saigon are total opposite in terms of their culture. Hanoi or northern vietnamese are more soft spoken with good manners, usually they have noble ancestors. Saigon people are generally the working class, more abrasive in terms of speaking, talking loud, direct, argumentative.

Actually theres a clickable link saying select the place of shops and itll drop down all the links to all their branches.

Yes, there are a few hosts bars or gay bars with boys that u can off. Mostly in shinjuku ni chome in tokyo. There are also a few sauna, and cruise club with specific requirements to enter. Some of the host bars are easy to recognize since they have pictures of the guys posted on the entrance

Malaysian and thailand gov had an agreement for border crossing where instead of passport, we can have a border pass instead, much cheaper and quicker to get, but only for area that are near the borders. I guess myanmar and thai also have similar arrangement? For us, only those who stay on the northern border states can apply, and they can only go up to songhkla area, so if they go to bkk or pattaya, it is considered illegal.

Japan price for gay massage are around 11000 yen ~ 100usd+ per hour, and only a hand job for extra. The host bars prices should be slightly more

Its true with a lot of other nationals as well. Ive usually had so so experience with some boys at first, but since i like the boy, body/face, i tried another time and it went from a 2 to a 8-9 out of 10. Its quite true here in malaysia because some of the massage center do not advertised the other services, and some masseur wont initiate until towards the end, if they decide u want to go further. Otherwise, they will just provide normal massage. And if they ask at the end, u dont have much time to adjust. They dont magically know what turns u on, and communication is still difficult. if after a second session and nothing improves, thats the last time ill see the guy lol.

Any other countries, youll have to be more discreet, the gay spot is usually well hidden, with no signage and locked doors. At least that is true for my country, malaysia. There are still alot of activities going on, infact, a lot of the boys are from neighboring countries. In KL, there are a mix of boys from thai/viet/myanmar/laos etc, then theres the indonesians, nepalese, bangladesh, most of which used to work as constructions workers. Not to forget the local malays, chinese and indian. Nothing beats bangkok/pattaya scene though so no gogobars, beer bars, host bars. Majority here are massage centers and saunas.

Hotel - Dusit thani City - Bangkok Visitors allowed - yes Joiners fee - no Security - guards on back entrance road near silom, but didnt check id or ask. Back entrance is basement, can take lift directly to room, and lobby is one level up from basement. Only 1 night there where i off a boy. Extra - my room were high floor of the same building as the lobby, and have nice balcony, with view of lumpini park. Didnt try any of their facilities though

We call the leaves sirih in malaysia, now only exists as part of malay tradition during weddings, more so as decoration rather than to chew. My grandma now age close to 90 used to chew them. In yangon especially, a lot of them still chew and spit alongside roads and pedestrians walkway making the area smells and of reddish color.

Pros: u dont have to go out of room, no opening/closing time, u have all your own toiletries and private shower in your hotel, wide selection from the internet. Cons: no guarantee youll get a good massage, your bed will get oil on it, no fixed price, bed vs table massage can be pro or cons depends on your preference. In the shop, u have the manager that can help u find someone that fit your needs. Ive had tried both massage at hotel and center, but at hotel, itll be with masseurs that i already know before hand, usually through the massage center, and i just want more privacy in hotel room

For what its worth, from my very limited experience, mamasan in tawan really leave u alone in my case. And ive had boys who comes and seat next to me uninvited and the mamasan didnt even bother to come and check. They were awfully quick though to ask for off fee when my off sit next to me fully dressed to go lol.

Love the bed in dusit thani as well. Still the speing thick type bed but with a very thick and soft mattress pad under the quilt that makes u feel like u were sleeping on a cloud

A year is correct

Ive taken one overnight train from hanoi to cao lai station to get to sa pa before. The train ride going there is surprisingly very comfortable. The bed and pillow is great and the toilets were very clean. We arrived around 6 am, got to our hotel around 7.30, had breakfast and straight to our morning hike to the tribe village at 9. We save on the hotel, and travel time as we have the whole day to explore the next day. Granted we dont really have local flight option like bangkok to chiang mai, i could understand why one would opt for an overnight train. But only if your activities are day acivities, and the bunk bed is comfortable for a good night sleep, meaning take at least a 2nd class ticket.

Respect your decision of not sharing the pic of the muscular hunk u off at jupiter. But do u by any chance remember the number? Or name? Might one to try him on imaginary day when i find myself awake in thailand lol

I guess i cant compare with LOS, but staying in a neighboring country with thai boys working in the massage centers as well as available in the apps/online ads is close enough comparison i guess?

Ive had a few apps/online experiences myself in my country, and the few times ive tried, it hasnt been great. One of the time, the person is not as pic, but still quite good looking, so i went ahead only to find out he had probably the smallest dick. And he is rushing everyhting, even lie when i ask for massage first he said he'll do later and after said he cannot do because he have customer waiting. I paid what i wouldve paid for a 1.5hr session of great massage and fun for a measely 20-30 min rushing hj... im not into generalization of things so i mightve just been unlucky with apps/online. Ive had a lot of great experience in massage centers though, and some encounters are not in the usual gay centers too lol.

Vietnamese treat their tet rather serious, as they will pay respect to their ancesters during that time. The country give their citizen 7-9 working days holiday just for this. Ive live in saigon for a year and during tet everything and i mean everything is closed. We have to buy groceries for 2 week in advance just sonwe have enough food to eat lol. There are some foreign own restaurants that is still open after a week or so though