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When someone takes the time to write trip reports or otherwise share their experiences, a few people like to criticize their choices because they don't agree.  Whether it be the boy they chose for the night, the hotel they stayed in, or how much they paid for a tip to a boy, or a tip to a waiter or mama-san, a few people seem to delight in condemning the original poster by either "correcting" the writer or otherwise humiliating them for the choices they made.
I have seen this many times, most recently with Vinapu's trip reports being criticized over prices he paid and tips he gave, and now 12is12's reports are going through the same wringer.  "That boy is not handsome, too old", or "You paid too much" are really uncalled for and unwelcome.  Would you say that to the person at the next table in a bar when another customer offs a boy or gives a tip?  If every time someone writes a recommendation, or takes the time to report about their good times and adventures, and then their words are picked apart by the vultures, I believe the trip reports and other useful suggestions will stop being posted.  Perhaps the critics can share some of their own reports of their experiences with us since you know best?
Personally, I appreciate the time and effort people put into reporting their adventures.  I believe the information is useful to many readers who may not spend a lot of time in Thailand every year.  The bars they visited, amounts tipped, the hotels and restaurants, prices paid, transportation taken, etc are enlightening and helpful to many of the members of this board.  Continued criticism and derision will only dissuade others from sharing their honest thoughts.  
Now it seems there is interest in making a private club to share information.  This will further serve to remove from this board the incentive to freely share information here.  
Discussion of the reports and recommendations is expected of course, but when it insults and offends the person willing to share their stories, it only deters them from further reporting.  I sometimes feel bad for the original posters because of the rude manner in which their posts are treated.   I suspect that if this trend of harsh critiques of recommendations continues, this board will slowly fade into irrelevance as posters will find other less hostile places to share their personal thoughts and experiences.
 

@12is12 Its been a pleasure to join you on your show hopping journey. Hope you have enjoyed it as much as I did. Looking forward to future meets and explore the seedy streets of Bkk further if you are there for Songkran. Thanks @anddy for guiding us on our virgin tour of new Twilight. 
 
The layout is a lot better in comparison as all the bars are adjacent to one another. Dreamboy show is highly entertaining but the boys line up is a disappointment with only 9 boys on stage to choose from, which might be due to it being the second show.
Freshboy has a more twinky line up with circa 20 on stage and a few fairly stunning ones.

 
 

There are a lot of offable boys on Phuket, and at least 30% of them have great bodies. But there are only few reliable guides on Phuket. Guides who will not push you to shop in affiliated shop for commission, guide who will not push you to eat in affiliated restaurant for commission, guide who will not call for "metered" taxi where meter is working 3 times faster than it should work.

market economy at it's best. They need to cash fast as they age, become yesterday's news , customers get bored with them and new crop is constantly unloading from the buses at Mor Chit.
Mekhin used to be a king at Tawan and yet time come when I witnessed him going home 3 night in row empty handed. Babe is king at Moonlight and still as late as late month I saw all 5 or 6 models getting money garlands with exception of  one and it was him.
As always somebody else's money is generating heat. 
First,  12is12 gave him what he wanted and it's only  for him to assess whether he spent money well , after all we were not there and even if we were we could look at value differently.
Second , if we really want to know what market bears we need to hold our urge to criticize what other are paying , even if in our eyes warranted for  a practical reason : not only it's none of our business but also if we want to know the truth we need to take her as she is,  whether we like or not . Otherwise members will be telling us lies, either understating true level to avoid unwelcome comments or overstating , just to incense some readers and increase their blood pressure. 
Others may even withdrew that information entirely as Jasper mentioned in post above and this doesn't help anybody. 
Third , if we want to state our displeasure with what other are paying we can use Christian PFC approach and state " I only go with guys who charge no more than xxxx baht  ST, yyyy baht LT" , nice and non-offending.
Fourth, as fellow humans all guys  are of equal value but as sex workers , like all workers,  are not. Not every cook is the best in the world, some are even worst in their own restaurant. The same with guys. We we pay for what value WE FEEL WE RECEIVED, not what other assess as such.
I met so far more than 20 of our members and bar hopped with most of them. And often I saw them calling guys I'd not even place  on the stage   and heard their comments about guys I called or tipped to the same tune. Is that so hard to understand and accept as fact of life ?

Me personally i don't particularly agree with the terms like 'lesser clubs' or 'premier boys', we all like different things / people / places.  Those terms imply Elitism which is unnecessary in this scene, a boy who works in Freshboys is no better or worse than a guy who works in Dreamboys.  What matters are the character & mannerisms of the guy in question and how they treat you on your 'date' with them.
Agreed TIP levels are up to the individual, but I know plenty of guys who are delighted with 3K+ overnight for Long-time in BKK...mainly because they know they'll have a fun night in DJ Station, the Khao San rd or some other type of BKK nightlife along the way (we rarely sleep before 5am), so the 'fun' matters to a lot of them as well.  If they know your a 'fun' person to be with for many that will count in their assessment of you too.
 

I am sure OP knows the going rate but decided to tip him generously as his rating 9.5/10 shows.
I am happy for  the boy.
3000 short time isn’t way too much for Bangkok premier boys. They are getting 3000-4000, even 5000 occasionally.
Besides, I don’t think it’s polite to criticise someone’s spending habits especially about boy tip in the forum’s trip reports.
I suspect one of the reason some of the poster decided  not to write about the tip amount they actually paid is that the subject always cause some controversies.
Who is to say 12 isn’t a billionaire  couldn’t care less about few thousands baht? LOL

Day 5 - And the fun continues part 3
This should be the last part of Day 5. So after dinner, we all make our way to Soi 4. As it is still early, we sat at telephone pub alley side seating, which is facing the street, where the musics isnt so loud outside so we can hold conversation while watching people, tourists and boys alike coming into the alley and leaving. But A is sitting next to me so I cant recalled much of people watching happening that night. We continue chatting about weather, travel, and world economy and while we 3 talked, Z and A were also having their conversation as well. 
From time to time, I also talked to Z, asking about his life and so on. I told him that his english is really good, and asked if he actually went to University and he told me he has a degree from a myanmar university, as well as thanking me for asking. As we are getting ready to head to the bar, I saw Vinapu leaving a tip to a guy next to us, and saw the perplexed face of the guy, who clearly shocked and embarrassed, as Vinapu thought he is MB, but his expression suggested otherwise. I am always amazed that western gay/guys are so direct, something we asian will never do. And when i think about this, i can totally understand the existence of mamasan in gogobars. Id rather asked sensitive questions about a guy to mamasan rather than directly asking a guy who i really like. For western guys, i guess mamasan is rather nuisance especially when they arent telling the truth. 
Anyway, back to the topic. All 5 of us enter the bar and being ushered to the seats to the right of stage, second row from the vip seats. Definitely not a bad seat except for the speaker right behind us, which somehow that night was not as annoying as when i was there alone. A greeted the mamasan and some of his friends. Z immediately asked vinapu to seat in the front stools instead so they have better view and vinapu relented. It is Z night tonight hehe. And Z definitely liven up to his reputation as told to me by Vinapu. He enjoys the shows, the boys and arent shy from showing how excited he is lol. He told me one or two guys that he really likes from the line up. A being obedient, sitting next to me, and from time to time talked to his friends who sits on the next table with 2 asian girls who is opening a bottle with probably 3-4 guys sitting with them, one of which is A "brother/best friend". At one point, Z told me one particular guy shouldnt be on the stage, but later on we both discover why he deserved to be there during the big cock show lol. 
Vinapu regular Oud came to sit with him when he noticed vinapu sitting near the stage. As i later found out, Vinapu didnt off him this trip, but did off him on his subsequent trip a month later. He also noticed me who off him two days ago hehe. I also noticed the gay dancer i took last night is not around, and the shows this night isnt as good as during the weekend, with reduced number of dancers. And as expected, no hint of #37 as well. I asked mamasan about #37 and he said when i came back next time, he will let me know if #37 is around, so the hunt continues. At some point, Z was so excited that he accidently hit a beer bottle and spilled on the table and floor lol A best friend is apparently offed by the 2 asian girl, which Z also told me very beautiful girls and i agree. At some point, Jimbillp left us to catch his flight. 
We all stayed until shows finished, which is almost midnight, but when we were about to leave, outside was raining heavily. So we decided to stay for a while, and enjoy the karaoke session next. Two singers, a man and a women take the stage and sings a mixed of english, thai and chinese songs, mostly very recent songs too at least for the english songs. Great voice and entertaining but without the boys on stage, the high volume of the music started to annoy me lol. At some point, we decided to brave the light rain and Vinapu generously lend A his folded umbrella since as most boys do, needs to protect his hair from rain hehe. Anyway, we walked passed banana bar and grabber there told us show is on going, so we decided to give it a look, and yup, the sex show is on going. Not my type of boy, and not my type of shows id enjoy but we did stay for a bit after that ends to see the small selection of boys they have, at least one id off if i only go to this bar and nowhere else. 
After that we both says our goodbye, and thank each other for what would be the best night out for me at least. Me and A made our way back with A stays dry thanks to Vinapu's umbrella, which kept his happy mood for the night hehe. It was a long day/night for both of us, so I told A that we will have light fun and cuddle and then go to sleep, and left the heavy duty stuff in the morning lol. But staying in Raya with the transparent shower which can be viewed from the sofa is a great advantage indeed. When A took his shower, I keep staring at him and of course he noticed me, and started to do his own version of shower show for me. It turns out A is a bit sick actually, but he brought with him some panadol, which explains why he wears the sweatshirt or maybe not, but thankfully not too sick for us to still have fun. I really admire his work ethic. He stays with me until breakfast, which we took a bit late, around 10am or so. Im definitely going to miss him, and as i write this, and went through the pics, i definitely miss him now.

Day 5 - And the fun continues part 2
Again, this part of the trip has been reported by Vinapu on his detail report (link). It was very detail that he had to split it to two part, and as it turns out so did I. All 4 of us scan our ticket at the entry and being ushered to the lift. On the journey up, we were served with the feast of the 5 sensory with videos and music filled the whole 6 sides of walls, floor and ceiling, akin to virtual reality of having transported in a transparent lift which I find a very nice touch. We all then brought to the observatory floor, which is a floor with glass walls to have a very comfortable airconditioned area to view bangkok skyline. Vinapu mentioned that we must see the toilet at this level on our way back. This level also have the smaller version of gift shops and cafes.
Having a Mahanakhon veteran with us, we made our way straight to the rooftop observation deck, using the stairs, which is also the emergency stairs which can be seen spiralling all the way down. At the rooftop, we all take a while to absorb the feeling of being at the top of a really high building. A very nice selection of musics were played, and there are plenty of people around, but not as crowded as I'd expect. There is a stair-seating in the middle facing one side of the building where people can just seat and lounge and chat but of course thats not what all of us wanted to do. 
We immediately go towards the glass floor extension deck and watched all the poses people made taking pictures. We need to cover our shoes with the shoes cover before going down and not allowed to bring camera with us, so we take turns to go down. A and me go first to give Z time to summon his courage. Im not a fan of taking pictures of myself or others as i usually only take pictures of buildings, objects or scenery, but both A and Z seems to really enjoy the place very much, which also makes me happy hehe. Not long after, Vinapu manage to find jimbillp and he offers to take pictures with all 4 of us. We spent a bit more time there before me and Vinapu and Jim move to the other sides of the building and started to try and figure out all the places that we can recognized from above. 
Meanwhile A and Z, both from Myanmar, continue their photoshoot complete with slo-mo, videos, walking scene and even some workout videos lol. I actually told vinapu if only he does that without his shirt, and not long after, he actually lifted his sweatshirt to reveal his washboard abs while doing sit up on the glass. At some point I see Jimbillp were talking with A, and Vinapu also talking with A, and i cant blamed them, A is such a pleasant guy to be with and he knows how to behave amongst us. Z personality really shines as he is very outgoing, talkative, funny and joyful to say the least. And to be honest, i can definitely see him as being my friend as i really like to just chat and talk with him. Anyway, A finally join me and vinapu and we start talking about some of the interesting buidling further away from the city center and surprisingly, A recognized almost all of them. It turns out he told me he had been there before with his "brother" aka, really good friend. I cant help but amazed still at his memory though. 
Close to 7pm, I reminded all that i need to go to Arena and pickup the first masseur i took before, thinking that he might go with me for tonight as long time. So we made our way down after spending 2 hours there, not to forget to check out the toilet on our way down, this time by elevator, and it was impressive to see the toilet wall are also made of transparent glass lol. The exit pathway after the elevator going down is a 4 stories gift shopping malls, with a maze like one way walkway down to ensure all visitor had a chance to see all the duty free stuff they sell there.
Since i am going to Arena, we decided to just had dinner there in silom plaza as well. I made my way up to arena, and when i open the door, the rude mamasan was there, i asked him if i can see the masseur, which coincedently had similar name with him, and he said the guy has gone home. I have his line btw, and my messages was read but no reply. I hope he is not in trouble because the rude mamasan scold me again and telling me everything i want need to go through him and say if i want massage, i can take other boy. I was speechless really, and just told him its ok, i only want to see that masseur and if he is not around ill leave. 
Anyway, I went down and join the rest at one of the restaurant at ground floor, and they had just set up the table for the 5 of us. We each order a dish or two and share it with the rest eating family style. I told vinapu what just happened and just hope the boy is alright. Anyway, that also means i dont have any boy with me tonight. After we finished dinner, we discussed a bit about where should we go, and tonight is Z turns to tell us where he wanted to go. He asked us to suggest bars with handsome man and best show, which to me and vinapu, it wouldve been moonlight, but we just went there yesterday, so Jupiter is the next best option. So Jupiter it is. 
But it is still to early to hit the bar. And A is still with us. I did told jimbillp if he wanted to take A ST, but he says its ok, he probably will next trip as he is about to leave tonight hehe. Vinapu even offered to pay A off fee if he wanted to join us bar visiting tonight, but A seems reluctant as he couldve made more money at the bar getting customer. I just lost a candidate for LT from arena, but A told me earlier he couldnt do LT tonight, so i just reiterate again to A i wouldve taken him again tonight if he does LT. He thinks for a bit and then agrees to LT. So done and deal, A will be with me again tonight, and it is yet a first for me in thailand, to go with the same guy two nights in a row lol. I also asked A if he is ok going to Jupiter since he just left the bar for moonlight but he says he is ok. 
Another long post so i guess there will be part 3 now..... 

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I agree with all above and more although you are right BKK it's still holding up,
My point is past is past , it's gone and instead of dwelling on memories we should cherish what we have now and we still have plenty. At end of day we need just one guy and he may be the only one standing on the stage when we enter bar. One of evenings I went to Senso and they had only 4 guys at the moment, I still had to make pick out of three I liked.

Day 5 - And the fun continues part 1
After A left, I continue my ritual of after breakfast nap. One of this trip mission is to check out the ICONSiam Mega shopping complex. Its already opened during my last trip but given that trip was during peak of the peak season and the mall had just opened, I decided to avoid the hassle. So I decided to have lunch at ICONSiam today. I do have a 2.30pm booking with my favorite masseur in Arena so I cant spend too long there, so I just order a grab bike from Raya to Iconsiam and was there is about 15min, minus 70thb including tip. 
Like many have echoed admiration of their food court, I too agree that their food level, almost all the ground floor are definitely a place to be if you are looking to buy mulitude of varieties of Thai street food, at very reasonable price (most items are in single pax portion at 50thb) and eat in a very comfortable airconditioned space. There are even what we called in malay "pangkin" which is a low raised platforms where u can eat comfortably without chair. Bought myself 3 items as shown in the pic (roti with coconut, mango sitcky rice and a milkshake), good enough to fill my belly until dinner time. There are a lot more street food choices available but that has to be saved for another trip as i cant be too full right before my massage lol. 
Since im going to Arena next, and i still have time to kill, i decided to go there by the free boat to saphan thaksin. On previous trip, during peak season, the boat stops at a different pier, making it less convenient for me to go by boat so im glad that changes was temporary. Not much queue and managed to catch the first boat that came, and the trip is quite short as well. Took the BTS to Chong Nongsi and walked to Arena, arriving few minutes before my appointment. Enter and saw that mamasan Art is not around and mamasan Somsak is in charge instead. Nevertheless, he knows about my booking and my masseur came to bring me up the stairs. 
Like our previous session, he chose a bigger room with 2 massage table inside with shower as well. He put together the two table so we have extra room to move around hehe. Told him to shower with me and he said he will join later. Before i hit shower, I called A and told him i want him to join me for my mahanakhon visit, and he said ok he will go there at 5.30pm. Minutes later, my masseur joined me in the shower, he is as gorgoeus as i can remember him, muscular perfect body, smooth skin with very light hair on his chest and legs. His manliness still dominant despite his humble and polite nature. Not much words from him, but i did asked about his absent during the weekend which due to his father being sick and him going back every weekend now to tend to his sick father. 
His massage is very sensual, with lots of body contact, and he moves to the b2b part seamlessly. I am in 7th heaven and when it comes to the fun part, he asked if i want sex, and of course i cant resist this guy lol. And i probably catched him when he is horny, since he fucked me until he cummed, and thats two times in a row this trip that arena masseur completed his deed with me and its still early evening. Or maybe this is the benefit of low season. We both hit the shower and this time he helped clean me up and let me finished showering before he cleaned himself up. Arena masseurs always delivers, at least true for my case. If anything, i'll always come for this particular guy, though i do wish we can actually talk more. 
I gave him a very deserving tips in the room, we both head down, and before exit, i asked for the masseur i had on last visit. He came to me and i gave him another tip, telling him to wait for me at around 7pm where i plan to take him off. i also gave my fav masseur another parting tip. This is when the mamasan come to me and told/scold me he waited for me long time. i checked the watch and its 4pm, which means we didnt really went over time. He either think my session was only 60min, which is weird since i paid for 90min, or he really mad for us maybe exceed few mins of the time (since i did arrive few mins early) or he promised the next guy who also booked my masseur, an earlier time to avoid them leaving. Either way, I dont think its my fault if we went over time, my masseur didnt let me know about it, nor told me we dont have enough time in the room. But i dont want to make a fuss and probably brings trouble to the masseur too so i just ignore this rude mamasan. Later i found out from vinapu that this mamasan used to work at the old Hero massage. Anyway, I go there for the masseur, and not the mamasan, so i guess it didnt matter. 
I still have about 1hour 30min before my meeting with Vinapu at mahanakhon. So i went to the National Gem and Jewelry Museum nearby and it is open today. The place is not big, but they do have some of the rare gems and some are actually replica of the real thing. I did still spent my time there until its close to 5.15pm. Few interesting things did happened inside though. The counter guy is actually a degree student and turns out we both study the same course in the university. Of course he is still young and looked gay too. We did chat a lot on the subject of gems and rocks and stuff and he basically gave me a private tour of the musuem, and gave me some highlights of the items the hold. He also told be what else the institute have, which is on different floor. U can actually get a gem/jewelry authenticated and appraised here, as well as polished and cut as well. There is also a research lab and also a library. It is definitely worth a visit especially with the free entrance with the museum pass. 
I walked towards mahanakhon next and arrived near the entrance and didnt see anyone around yet. Not long after, Vinapu shows up alone. I called A and he said he is on his way. Vinapu and I proceed to the entrance to buy each of our distinguished guest a ticket. We then went back outside to wait for them. A shows up first, with a long sleeve thin wool/sweater like shirt and jeans, very trendy outfit indeed. Not long after, Z also shows up, apparently after meeting his "friend" who is leaving bangkok today, to say his goodbyes. We both proceed to enter the tower. Vinapu also said to me one other forum member jimbillp will meet us at the top of the tower. 
To be continued...

Thx for the editorial comment. I partitioned my report precisely because it seems to me these are different "topics": logistics, saunas, bars. In a month time, a newbie scanning this forum will have an easier time searching through these titles.

Day 4 - The most awaited meeting part 2
From this point onwards, both Vinapu and ggobkk had written their reports which can be read by clicking the respecting link (Vinapu, Ggobkk). When i arrived, i immediately saw ggobkk sitting on the couch in the lobby chatting with another farang, which can only be vinapu. Ggobkk waved at me and i walked towards them, and we started to catch up. Vinapu asked me about my leg, and it was getting better each day, good enough that ggobkk even asked me whats wrong with my leg since he didnt noticed it. We decided to hit Madrid tavern for dinner and agreed to visit Moonlight for tonight entertainment. On my mind, I already off the dancer from Jupiter which i need to pick up when the show there finished which should be around midnight and Vinapu also have a boy Z who he dragged from pattaya waiting for him at the hotel tonight as well. So all the worry about me and him having similar type and might fight over boys are gone for the night, and we should be able to enjoy the show and boys all the same. Not that Im saying we might fight but its nice to know there is no reason to. 
Ggobkk update us during dinner on the new "twilight" bars location mentioning some bars were open and closed pretty quickly, maybe due to change management or a better spot opened up. Vinapu also updated about his visits the few days he was in bangkok before which was reported in detail in his report. We agreed on visiting moonlight and went there after dinner and ggobkk brought us towards the small alley, where the ex-hotmale grabber Bandana man work and Vinapu pointed out to me the many doors along the way where the "Short time" room is located. And as any of u could figured out, we met bandana guy, and he escorted all 3 of us towards moonlight. We paid up the entrance fee and ushered in. It was almost empty as we were there quite early, around 9pm. The mamasan recognized me from before and showed us the seat at the second row from the stage, with our back is the walkway, and actually one guy already seated in the middle of the table. Mamasan asked the guy politely if he could move one seat to the right so he can fit all 3 of us to that table, but the guy refused, so we 3 had to squeeze a bit at the edge of the table. Later we found out the guy had a friend as well, who is probably wearing size 5XL shirt, so i can totally understand why he refused to move as they will be squeezed as well on the other side near the pole. 
Impressive selection of floor boys. As mentioned before by Vinapu, we quickly noticed A, muscular guy with smaller frame body, which is the ideal type for both of us. While Vinapu thinks he looks better than the model, I can only agree body-wise he is much better than all of the models. But face wise, I can name few models who looks better. But we both agree he can easily qualify to be amongst the moonlight model if he wanted to. And Jasper also agreed on Vinapu report as well lol. Without much hesitation, i called A to offer him a drink after asking mamasan if he would do long time or not, and mamasan said yes and told me the tip as well. Meanwhile ggobkk also called a twink boy who interest him and he then move the the side with the boys and A sit at the now empty seat next to me. At this point, in my mind, i was thanking the guy who refused to move as our squeezed seating at the edge of the table works to my advantage as A now has to seat really close to me and he dont mind. I believe ggobkk left even before the show starts with his boy, who at some point returns to the bar before me and vinapu left the bar. I also didnt waste time and decided to off A as well, so he went back to change to street cloth and stay with me for the show. 
Show wise, this time around i noticed few new routines, which is as always, well choreographed, and Babe again steals the MVP awards for the umpteenth times. One particular part of the show me and Vinapu really enjoyed, enough to distribute the wealth was the number where all the models dance in walkway, which is just behind us, giving us unprecedented VIP access to all of their bodies. Cant help my self to give the two models closest to me, and by luck, also the two that i am very keen of, Nut and Boss red notes. And both of them show their appreciation both with attitude and physically pull my hand all over their body why they dance lol. I dont know if A knew about this upcoming number or not, but before the number begins, he excused himself (toilet or what, i cant recall) which is a service as it allows me easy access to two models without him in between. One thing to note though, before this number, there is one part of the show where all the model lined up and mamasan comes to the audience and try to persuade us to buy garland of 1k baht to be distributed amongst all the model, and not sure if it was planned or not, but all the models that night, got at least one, with several gots 2-3 garland, all but one. Babe. At the end of this, some of the models along with audience laugh when babe make a cute sad face. Im not sure if i should feel sad or not as i was really tempted to get one garland for him just because lol. 
Around 11.45pm, Mamasan from Jupiter texted me saying my boy has finished with the show and now waiting for me. I suddenly realized I have two boys today lol. When did this happened lol. It mustve been some of Vinapu mojo had rubbed off on me lol. Now i need to tell A that he cant go with me now, and ill have to come to pick him up later, which i said to him around 1am. He asked me where i want to go, and me being naive just told him i actually had another boy for ST from another bar, and will come back for him after. He understand and tells me he will go eat or something and will wait at the bar for me. I rushed to Jupiter and saw my boy already at the outside seating waiting for me in street cloth, so we dont waste any time and went straight to my hotel room. Back in hotel, I had one of the most passionate encounter with a guy this trip. He is gay, and very very well endowed, perfect body for a muscular twink, and handsome face. If only he does LT, he wouldve been a perfect guy for me. Now i understand why girls go crazy for him and some even cry when he refuse to be offed by them. After the deeds, we stay cuddle and talk a bit, he speaks perfect english, and told me some of his story before, which gain more respect from me. Anyway, he excused himself at 1am, saying he needs to go to bar to receive his payment for the month, and he did lots of shows. As i have another boy waiting, its actually works out great. We cleaned ourselves and i sent him away to his bar and make my way to moonlight.
I picked up A, and asked him if he already eat, he said yes, so without delaying, we go back to hotel. As i had just had fun minutes ago, we take it slow. We first sit at the sofa and chat, another guy with great english, and he told me about his sponsor before, and not long, i asked if we can start with cuddling on the bed and continue chatting while our hands starts to get busy. One thing led to another and all i can say is his muscle is a feast to the eye, especially when we were face to face. We had another round in the morning, complete with showering together, and i love the feel of his tight muscular body under running water. I wish i can stay like this forever but one can only wish. Anyway, we end the session with breakfast together at the hotel. He asked me my plan for today, and i told him i plan to go to massage and then to mahanakhon tower. I asked him his plan, he said he wanted to go gym after sleeping hehe. But he also told me if i want him to accompany me to mahanakhon, just call or text him. We went back to my room where i gave him his most deserving tips, taxi money requested, gladly given for a goodbye hug. 

One more:
 

[Part 3]
It was midnight when I left Jupiter (after a slightly underwhelming show).
Made my way to the stretch where Hotmale, Dream Boy, Fresh Boys & Screw Boys are.
I remember Screw Boys has a show at 1am, so I decided to save it for later. Fresh Boys it shall be.
My previous visit to Fresh Boys at Soi Twilight didn’t really leave an impression on me, so I kinda had zero expectations going in.
When I entered at 12:10am, the show has already started. 3 boys were taking turns slamming their big hard cocks onto a metal pole (with a loud sound). OUCH.
That excruciating expression on their faces made me cringe. I wonder if they actually felt any pain, because if they didn’t, that was some damn good acting right there.
Needing some distraction, I turned my attention to the 30+ boys sitting beside the stage. ALMOST ALL TWINKS. some even looked like students (with baby fat). GOSH.
oh well, since I already paid 350B for the drink, and the mamasan seemed really nice, I shall stay for a while.
Next up was the f***ing show. BEST I’VE SEEN SO FAR. 
The top was skinny with a tattooed chest, but he pounded HARD. the poor bottom (equally skinny) was practically gasping for air while continuously moaning/yelling “mae!” (Thai for “mother”).
SUCH A TURN ON.
They experimented at least 5 different positions, including an acrobatic one on the ladder.
I gotta take my hat off to that bottom. That top was MERCILESS. all that twisting and turning and tangling and distorting continued for way longer than I expected.
Some of the 30+ boys off-stage were in awe too, while some seemed relieved that they weren’t that bottom. HAHAHA.
The most deserving tip I have given that night.
So,  my last hope for the night: Screw Boys... (to be continued)
 
 
 

On Sunday night I faced the eternal dilema: go back to a good place (Dreamboys), or try a new one? In such situations I let the cosmus decide, this time embodied by NewScene. He suggested we try out LuckyBoys.
I got there before time and before him, sat at the back and looked at the stage. The boys were standing in 5 rows, 5 in each; every minute the front guy would move to the back. They were all apathetic just as in ML the night before, and none of them appealed to me. NS texted me from outside, and when I reported - he suggested we move to FreshBoys.
MUCH smaller place, almost intimate. More explicit porn numbers, but none of the boys were for me. The mamasan tried to interest NewScene in a number of boys, but he too didn't like them.
We exited and waited for Anddy and Mark to join us from the bar where they had sat. Guys, I'm glad to report: Mark is really HOT!!! He is way way beneath our average age, was sleeve-less, and had he taken his shirt off - would have been offed at model rates!!! Alas, we had to make do with the working boys.....   )-:
We entered DreamBoys at mid show. I immediatelly looked for and inquired about the other four on my yesterlist, but none were there. Kay was there, we exchanged smiles, but despite his grade-8 - I wanted to try a new boy. No one else caught my eye.
After sitting the for a while, Andy had to retire and NS offed a boy. At Mark's suggestion I went with him to ScrewBoys, where he knew socially one of the guys. Screw was very much like Fresh; we could actually see the fine details of the cocks performing on stage.
For me tbe mamasan called over the in-house big dick, a Vietnamese # 98. He sat between me and her, both of them massaging his dick through the trousers. Per their invitation I joined the effort, which very quickly proved their point. He also looked good, but answering my questions he said no to kissing and no to sucking. I wrote him in ggl-trnslt that he is an honest man, tipped him 200 baht, and (since again the other boys were unattractive to me) off we went. BTW, before going I also tipped Mark's friend # 94. He is both cute and nice. (I loved their elegant uniform - white shirt with colourful tie.) Those of you looking for tops - check him out. His name is Chung.
Mark suggested I try Hotmale, but it was closed already at 1 am. I didn't know bars close at that hour, so Kay at Dream as a fallback was also gone.
Never thought I'd pass through 4 bars in one night; and would have never imagined that in such a scenario I would come out emptybedded....
Didn't feel bad though. It was a nice experience, and it was great hanging out with NS, Andy and Mark.
 

Though it's of course superfluous, I'll state the obvious: PLEASE don't read into this and next report any criticism or condesendance or judgementalism toward any club or boy or anyone else for that member. These are my subjective impressions, tastes and preferences.
 
On Saturday night decided to start the adventure at Moonlight, given its reputation and 3 names of big-cock boys. Arrived intentionally early, round 9; NewScene texted he'll join me at 9:30. Boys were rotating on stage, looking bored-tired and indifferent. None tried to vie for attention.
The thing that most striked me was the way too high music volume; I couldn't understand the mamasan, though he was speaking into my ear. 30 hours later I could state without doubt that ML is at the extreme end of the bars on this issue.
At some point I told the mamasan I'm into big dicks, and asked about the names given to me. He said the first was a no-off model, Watt wasn't working that night, and he called Charlee over. Mamasan agreed I talk with him outside for a couple of minutes. (Only later I realized he actually waved the boy's drink for this unusual proceedure.) 
We went outside. He looked good  but was very phlegmatic, answering me in mono syllables. Though mamasan said off was 2000, he asked for 3000 but immediatelly relented. I said "maybe", and we returned inside.
By then NS had arrived, and we watched the show. A lot of effort  was put into it, especially the creative props. However, I found the erotic numbers mechanical and un-stirring; an impression that would recurr in all other clubs. I had hoped they would make me horny, but even the shower scene didn't. 
When the show ended I didn't feel like offing Charlee, and NS suggested we adjourn to Dreamboys. I had not thought about 2 shows in a row, but his enthusiasm was catchy. Thank you, NewScene.
The moment I entered it was obviously different. The boys on parade were energetic and smiling, the volume was managable, and all seats were chairs/couches with backs, rather than stools. As NS put it, this club was "vibrant".
I spotted and jotted down the numbers of 5 boys I liked. Without sharing with him the list, I asked the assistant-mamasan who has a big dick. Bingo! One of his recommendations was on my list - Kay number 18!!
He came over. Better than passable English. Nice guy. So offed, and off we go.
On the way he declined my invitation to eat something. At the hotel he registered, we went up, showered, and had a good time in bed: he was passionate, and a good kisser. 9 on a scale of 10.
I tipped him 2500 and added an airline amenities bag, plus some soaps-shampoos he was interested in. He too was glad to hear that I could recommend him to friends, and asked me to report he doesn't bottom though he sucks (very well).
So guys - Kay, 19 at Dreamboys.
 

After sleeping off my jetlag, woke up very late on Saturday and at 2 pm entered Arena for a massage (on my way to Mahanakhon sky walk). I think I was the only customer there. 25 boys of various types sprung up, a few vying for attention. None were really enticing. I asked the mamasan who had big dicks, he pointed out 4, and I chose Pom. Paid mamasan 600.
Good room and shower. Pom joined me after I has invited him, and soaped my back side. Massage was good; it seems he knew what he was doing. A little English; told me about his daughter at a village and about life in BKK. During massage didn't initiate anything sensual, but didnt shy away when he was positioned for fondling. In Thai terms, his dick WAS big.
After I turned over he asked what I liked. Massaged my groin, and we engaged in mutual oral. Tried his best to please me. Then we showered again. Graded 8 of 10. I think the minimal tip was 1000, and I added 500.
When I asked him if he wants me to advertise him, he was glad about the idea.
Pom   +66 844628261
 

hopefully one day we will learn that staff is offable and off fee covers admission price

[Part 2]
As I was leaving Golden Cock at 10:30pm, there was a young Japanese lady slow-dancing with another Issan boy on the small smoky dancefloor, it actually looked kinda romantic...
So, next stop: Jupiter.
Drink + entrance fee was 500B. was it always this expensive?! the other bars were charging around 300-450B...
But the 10+ boys parading on stage were of SUPREME quality, i must say.
Two boys in particular caught my eye, #49 and #68, those chiseled looks and sculpted abs, YUM.
But somehow I didn’t feel the urge to off them or buy them a drink...perhaps I was less horny after the good time at Golden Cock?
So, the show only began at 11pm.
Ladyboys singing with background dancers clad in sexy black underwear, performing some acrobatic moves with the metal chains hanging from above.
My fav act would have to be those 5 boys dancing with towels wrapped around their waists, occasionally teasing with a peek-a-boo. the centre boy even received money garlands from a Chinese lady in the audience.
No big cock show, no f***ing show, but overall quite a classy act.
Except for a slightly bizarre act, where a boy was alone on stage, masturbating to a magazine full of nude women pics. his hand was moving frantically in his white underwear, but nothing else could be seen. he didn’t even look aroused...didn’t find it entertaining at all...
After the Jupiter show, I moved on to Fresh Boys for their midnight show... (to be continued)
 
 
 

Visited the museum today and give it 5 out of 5 stars.
Located directly opposite the entrance to Foodland, it occupies the space above the Black Pagoda. The 350 entrance fee includes a drink of your choice (soft, beer or mixed) in a bar dedicated to the Grand Prix, said to be the first go-go bar in Bangkok.
A former Patpong bar owner who helped the founder research and develop the concept was on hand to explain many of the exhibits and answer questions. In addition, the bartender is a lively Thai guy who took part in Woodstock in 1969. He’s an old Patpong hand and a delight to chat with.
They have plans for periodic theme events they hope will encourage visitors to return. 
I was there about 90 minutes and thoroughly enjoyed myself. It does was it set out to do with a mix of history and whimsy. 
 
 
 
 
 

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Today I was trying to explain to a friend that visits Thailand what a sauna in Brazil is like.
Imagine going to arena massage and when you arrive you go to the counter and they give you a towel and flip flops. You change and you enter arena just as it is now but the guys will not be standing around waiting for selection. They will be doing anyting they feel like that may entice you to talk to them or even buy them a drink or something to eat. They may put their body on full display for you or just indulge in some touching feeling and kissing. If you decide that you want to have sex, find a private place in the shadows or you will go to the counter and tell the mamasan that you want to rent a room that will cost about 15 US dollars and you will have 40 minutes in the room. The room will have a bed and a shower at minimum. The prices for drinks and food are very affordable and the tip for the guy will usually be around 100 to 150 reals.  
So imagine sitting on the sofa in arena wearing a towel, drinking a beer while  watching near naked, sexy guys trying to get your attention in the hope that you will take them to a suite for sex.
Once you are done and you are ready to leave you would have to pay arena for your room rental and the food and drink you consumed. You would have already paid the guys you had fun with separately.