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8 hours ago, Novarunner said:
If overnight is something you want, I’d try and work toward making the guy you want comfortable rather than attempting to offer him significantly more cash.
That's a great post and an interesting perspective, basically stressing the humanity of the guy, rather than as a money-grubbing scammer. It's tough because I would venture the industry has a mix of both (even of course, within the psyche of a single guy). So I guess the question is of proportion. Of the guys I mentioned above I could see this advice working with one, and having little effect on the other. The general idea of a GP as fellow human with dreams and feelings vs cold-blooded scammer also has relevance to a question I'm grappling with in another thread of when GPs ask for financial help, whether to believe/help them.
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So, a bit of an update. He told me he was taking the tram from Orly into the city, as it creeps through gritty southern suburbs of Paris and oversaw someone reading Portugese on their phone and he forced himself to start a conversation with him (for a tall and handsome guy he's kind of quiet; and I've heard before that Brazilians who encounter other Brazilians don't tend to be overly friendly to each other...) But I guess the guy kind of got him a gig* in the restaurant he works washing dishes or whatever until new years and is staying in a hostel (yeah I guess he slept in orly airport 2 or 3 nights); as he says, it is not exactly his dream but neither was it his dream to return home after 2 weeks in utter defeat. So he asked me to "postpone" (please don't cancel) the ticket until after new years. Sounds reasonable, who knows if it's true... The point of general application, though, is that I think I want to believe him, as I want to believe people generally (and concededly, cute charming guys, especially) How does/should one fight this impetus? And should one try to dull it generally in oneself or trust oneself to engage in a case-by-case examination?
For factual clarification, he went there with a somewhat older, somewhat more savvy (not nearly as handsome) GP friend of his who maybe knew that you could book a return flight in case asked and then cancel within 24 hours. Just a guess. He himself doesn't have a credit card so not sure. The medication is over the counter in all 3 relevant countries, (just far cheaper in France) so I don't know if the mule analogies are quite right.
Anyway, I will update more as it arises
*writing "gig" in another sense of the word than Rio-lovers are accustomed made me remember a few months ago, I was flying ITA to Rio and one middle-aged, overly makeup-ed checkin agent was asking her similar colleague to print my boarding pass(or something) and the second asked the first what was the destination, and she said "GIG....come[as in]....gig-olo" as they cackled at their inside joke that was, in fact, neither😆
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I figured out on certain credit cards you can put a monthly limit. I gave him the card number and he put it on his phone. I did it with chase, I put it at $120 and I can raise it after he gets the first one, (and cancel the card when he is done.) I decided to try to have him get 3. We'll see how it goes
To answer a couple of questions I do go to Europe often, but typically not until spring. And I think all non-immigrants are supposed to have a return ticket, but I recall only one instance of even being asked, and it certainly wasn't in Rome, where he entered
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This has come up a few times over the years but this is the first time that I am likely to help one.
I wrote about this guy about a week ago. I met him at 117, he had come for the weekend with his friend from a small city in Sao Paolo state, about 5 hours from Sao Paolo. I visited him there and had a great time. His friend there convinced him of all the money they could make in Europe, and so (probably using the money I gave him plus more, because that alone would not be enough) bought a ticket to Europe. It seems to have been a bust (besides the language barrier, Rome and Paris may not have been the best choices).
He wants to go home and asked me for help. I said i could look into using miles to get him home (if he just wanted money, a useless offer); I told him it would be an ugly flight with 2 stops about 10 hours each, not leaving until wednesday, he said no problem. I ask him if he had a place to stay, he sent his location (he's at Orly airport) and says he's grateful enough that I'm getting his flight, no need to pay for a hotel, there are a lot of police there and it is safe. Basically I'm trying to separate the actually desperate from the greedy. And he's passing everything that I throw at him. Any other strategies?
A question of not so general application is that he could more than make up the coat to me (25k miles + $100) by buying something in Paris (an over-the-counter medication) that I want that is much cheaper there. (about $100 there versus several times that here and I would like about 5-10 of it). If I send him cash by Western Union or whatever, he could be tempted to spend it (the cash price of a flight is about $500 so as long as I was content with 2 or 3 it would be foolish for him to not buy it and then lose my flight. I thought of some kind of like reloadable credit card (like every time he buys one he takes a picture of it with the receipt and I reload another $100). Any ideas on how to accomplish this effectively? I will be in brazil from Jan 2 so getting what he buys is not a problem.
But again the second question is subsidiary to the first; anything else I should be doing/asking to be sure that he really is in a desperate situation and not just wanting a gratuitous um...gratuity...
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Both for sessions in the sauna and for overnights, I find it a good strategy to name my (reasonable) price before allowing them to quote a high price that must then be negotiated down. It's not very hard to "beat them to the punch" because it is rare for them to quote a price before being asked. After discussing what I'm into (and hopefully getting some enthusiastic confirmation that they are too), as we segue toward reception, I will say "200 is good, yeah?" (busy night/peak hour/hottie) or just as commonly 150 is good, yeah? (slow night/offpeak hour/more ordinary looking). It would take nerves of steel for them to break up a deal that is practically underway; I have seen it, but exceptionally rarely. Caveat: I do speak Spanish, and I know my Portugese numbers so I say this in Portugese (they are super easy, basically the same as Spanish with only occasionally different pronunciations, e.g., 2 is more pronounced doyss than dos). I tell them what I'm into, typically via translate, though, because while almost none (surprising to me) speak Spanish, some make a greater effort/more easily understand it than other (the blank face gives that away...) By contrast, if you let him name a price you may have to tediously chisel it down and at some point it becomes hard for him to save face. A guy that I had had for 150 (I guess I'm a heightist, but anyone under about 5'9" automatically gets offered 150), the next night I overheard telling a Polish guy who asked, rather than told 400 and then negotiations bogged down at 250, with the Polish guy eventually walking away...
For overnights, which is actually the point I meant to address before digressing above, I think it is particularly important to discuss expectations of basically 3 periods: before the sleeping, during, and after(morning). I find the idea very appealing, but it's pretty hard to make it a "value proposition". Even guys at the sauna where the initial agreement was 150 and I am giving them 200 or 250 (I tend to agree to rather low initial prices but tip generously for great times, and it is only those guys who I've had at least 2 great times already do I consider broaching the overnight idea.) Surprisingly, I haven't found much enthusiasm at 1000, more so at 1200 and at that point it would typically just make sense for me to have them over for a session before bed and one the next morning (which I typically pay 300 or 350 without complaint.) The only way the math really works is if the "during the night" segment adds value, either by being a cuddler (Portugese speakers: is there a better word for this than abrazar (hug/embrace) which is what google translate uses?) and/or a serial fucker. As such I would say, all my overnights were poor to exceptionally poor value, except one, which spectacularly succeeded and keeps me coming back to the table. I would think the bare (no pun intended) minimum would be one romantic session before sleeping and one in the morning, hopefully with some nice translator-assisted pillow talk after one or both. In "real life" (nonpaid) sleepovers, I find the morning one is often the best but I have had a lot of trouble (maybe 50%) getting a morning session going. Last Saturday I had over a guy I had so enjoyed several times that I was lax about the pre-negotiations and his alarm went off at 8am sunday morning he popped out of bed, showered and ran off with a peck on the cheek because he had to be to cross-fit at 9.
One theory of mine for the morning (and during the night) underperformance is that under the what I consider borderline OCD Brazilian standards of showering, deodorant-application and tooth-brushing (one guy told me that 8 showers a day is not unusual for him on days he is NOT working), that spontaneous still-in-bed sex is near taboo (and no, a swig of mouthwash on the nightstand doesn't count--I tried that). So, before any morning session, both parties must get up and perform their regimens. Then, if a morning session does result, both parties are expected to repeat the regimen afterwards. At that point I'm ready for a nap! I have actually asked several more thoughtful guys if they could reconcile Brazilians' seeming lack of inhibition with their bodies in sex with this (what I would call) inhibition/shame with their body's scents and haven't gotten far. My theory is a distancing mechanism of the upper classes from the sweaty working classes in a hot country, (that would have less significance in cooler countries where the working classes would not be particularly sweaty), now percolated quite far down the economic ladder. One guy, though, shrugged his shoulders, rejecting my theory and said maybe we can fuck with abandon because we don't have to worry that we smell bad...
In any case, before you start to shell out what starts to exceed chump change, and end up basically getting a night session with a contactless sleeping session tacked on the end, make clear you want a morning session and whatever else. And yes, hope springs eternal: in one case I went to the small town where a particularly tall and stunning guy lived (he had just been visiting Rio for the weekend when I met him there). He was so sweet and earnest that I really couldn't bring myself to negotiate with him beforehand and it could've been a really boring night in the hotel, but it was actually what one would hope an overnight would be. (maybe he was just so small-town horny that he was willing to overlook the age difference?) When he dropped me off at the bus station (it had been nearly 24 hours) I gave him 1000 and bug-eyed, he exclaimed "Oh my gosh, that's SO much money!" Considering his mother, with whom he lived, was a domestica (domestic servant) in a small interior town, presumably earning little more than the minimum wage of R$1300/month, one can appreciate his perspective.
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In case anyone is in SP and going to Lagoa the next few says, message me
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No CPF needed. SmartFit has a cumbersome day pass system, but the staff will help you. Most I went to are 25 reais, premium locations 30 or 35.
the SmartFit at R. Augusta, 1053 - Consolação, São Paulo is quite gay, and not as shockingly crowded as some other branches (e.g. Copacabana)
nb. some locations get the idea that the AC is supposed to cool, but not that it's supposed to also remove the humidity from the air. So you can get 70F and very high humidity and you are sweating profusely....
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I meant I didnt check if they were still giving out the ones that say "Not for sale. Free only" I vaguely recall those being purple, while I think the ones last time were blue.
I did ask 2 GPs if they charge for the condoms, which is hearsay. So, it's true, it would be more accurate to say that it is said that they are still charging for them
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One annoying thing is that at 117, they charge for lube and condoms, even dispensing condoms that said free, not for sale (for years this went on--I did not happen to check on my latest visit if it was still the case) But they are certainly still charging for them
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20 hours ago, babybear2 said:
What are the good signals you see in garoto before actually hiring? Due to still limited Portuguese, I can only judge by the looks, so it all random, some good looking ones are pretty bad in a room
I actually look for smiles. A guy not able to muster smiles before the sale is unlikely to suddenly turn nice in the room. (Of course, if you are just looking to get pounded, this may not be so important; in that case, I would ask/insist on seeing the dick hard and I would note how quick the erection fades)
Also if they are willing to give a couple "sample" kisses, this can be very revealing. I say (through the translator) that kissing is the most important thing for me, are they into kissing? Normally that is there chance to give you an amazing kiss. If they just say yes, or kiss you like granny...they are unlikely to get better behind closed doors.
But true, there are no guarantees, and the most auspicious can be a dud in the room. Also on a few occasions, I have thought a guy was just so handsome that I've gone through with it despite inauspicious signs, but that is vanishingly rare.
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On 10/1/2023 at 9:18 PM, GoldMember said:
Hey guys,
After canceling my April 2020 trip to Brazil, it's now time for my first dip.
I've got most of the info I need from this forums so big thanks to all. 39 yo Israeli here.
My itinerary is spending this weekend (5 to 9 oct) in SP, mid week rio (9 to 13) and returning for next weekend to SP (13 to 16 oct) with one night at Tomorrowland. It would be great to meet someone from this forum and go to the GP sauna or any other adventure, PM me if interested. I'll also go clubbing and to the regular saunas.
One piece of info I didn't find here or any other online resource is regarding gyms. I'll be staying in Paulista Av in SP and Ipanema in Rio. I'm looking for a gay gym. And by gay gym, I mean a gym that is a regular preferably high end gym that is also frequented by a high concentration of gay guys. That combination usually leads to shower fun / steam room action. For reference, imagine the old David Burton gym in NYC. Any inspiration or suggestions on where should I workout?
Thanks again for all the info!
The main gym chain is Smart Fit, but from what I can tell, the gay guys are spread around (there are so many branches.) The guys there are not impressively hot typically, as you would hope. The hottest beefiest guys, in my experience, although again not necessarily gay, are at the gym Forma Fitness coincidentally for you in the basement of the Center Israelite (they don't really seem affiliated) in Copacabana. In SP, the SmartFit at R. Augusta, 1053 - Consolação, São Paulo, does seem pretty concentratedly gay, but I dont recall there being a steam room....showers, though...
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Anyone know a good "motel" in the Frei Caneca/Bela Vista area (near Lagoa)? Last time went to one suggested by the GP but it was pretty far
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First tip: beware of flights to VCP. Although Azul flights include a free bus to Sao Paulo, which I did not research, but kind of assumed would be like half-hourly or at least hourly, are surprisingly infrequent. Made a bad decision in hindsight to check out the Priority Pass lounge (talk about perennial dashed expectations!) on arrival and just missed the bus to Barra Funda. The next one was an hour and a half later, and that to CGH airport. I was tempted to title this topic. "Flight lands at noon at VCP; will I make it to the saunas?)
Still, it was nice to wait outside the terminal, where the weather was back in my comfort zone (70F) from the ever-increasing heat and humidity of Rio.
From my informant (a short slender twink at Lagoa, not at all my type, but friendly and speaks English fluently), The schedule at Lagoa is: Fri and Sat busiest, Sun hit or miss, Mon surprisingly busy, Tues slowest, Weds picking up a little, Thurs pretty busy. For those sauna lovers short on time, it seems that Rio's 2 best days are SP worst, so could fit together nicely. As for the boys...what to say. There are A LOT of very large to huge cocks attached to short slender bodies (which gives me a sort of weird quasi-pedo vibe, but some surely like this). Some of these have handsome faces, most are pure dick plays. Very few guys with really good bodies (for me, idiosyncratically, good body means tallish at least 5'10", there are a few guys with short good bodies, (including one with huge thick cock) but not even so many of those.
In my previous Rio posts I referred to a West-African-looking guy, who was absent on my last day in Rio at 202 (he seems to have very good attendance...). Well, I walk into Lagoa Thursday and...there he is. Now he is the star of Lagoa. (speaking of star, he has a large star of David tattoo on his chest, which can further aid identification). Apparently his gf lives in Sao Paulo and he is in town because it is his birthday Sunday. I mishear him that he will turn 24, which seems prefectly reasonable, and is only revealed as an error when he shows me a picture of his 12 year old daughter. He's actually turning 34. Shows absolutely no sign of decline physically. Maybe a bit in the stamina tho, I said that if I went again with him, I didn't know whether it would be like the first 2 great times or the last boring one. He said that he had already cum twice that night and was tired. Apology accepted and I went with him again. Very good.
A couple of muscle boys there look kind of steroidy in the sense that their skin seems stretched too tight, like they are almost popping out of their skin before it has a chance to adjust. Talk to both of them, they are ok, but the steroidy thing kind of a turn off. There is another more appealing tall, very white sort of Eastern-European looking kind of guy (kind of the other extreme to the west-african guy. He is tall muscular, almost slightly soft muscles compared to the steroid ones, not a Bel Ami face, but not too bad either. He seems oddly low energy, though, which portends ill for his performance. Dick is not super long, but thick. (He once got it hard and showed it off in the shower, but otherwise he does not display it). But despite nodding and smiling at him--twice--which most GPs would pounce on far less encouragement he hasn't said hello. Nor have I seen him smile yet. I guess I will have to approach him. Even if he is inauspicious as a bad lay, I will probably still give it a roll before I leave because he is really the only other guy there besides the west-African guy who really appeals to me.
If any of you guys are in SP please let me know. I will go to Lagoa tonight. I usually have my phone at hand in its identifiable lime green case, or just send a message here.
Probably will skip Lagoa tues and wednesday (prob back on thursday before my night flight to MIA) and go for the online scort ads. Have to force myself to rise above analysis paralysis (there are sooo many, how to choose?) Looking for the perfect guy, I will never find (actually I did in Brasilia a few years ago); have to just pick one I really like and hurdle the FOMO of finding the perfect one. May also hit the massage places, Inhouse has some appealing guys. Not really much for massage per se though, I have to reread the post as far as how cumbersome it is to go beyond massage...
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12 hours ago, Novarunner said:
I couldn’t agree more. I’ve now also had two guys beat me to the punch and ask me for vc before agreeing to meet. That’s definitely something I have only experienced in Brazil and never in Thailand.
I need to start planning my next trip.
Do you think they did this for safety purposes, or to assess your looks to see if there could be good/bad chemistry that could affect their performance?
I had some conversations with a sauna guy who speaks good English, a small twink probably not much over 100 pounds, and I asked him if he advertised online and he said no, I asked him why and he said 2 reasons, one he was satisfied with how many clients he was getting in the sauna, and two, being a small guy he liked the safety of the sauna. This may go some ways to help explain why there seem to be a preponderance of small guys in the sauna. Although these safety factors would have been relevant too in the past, when it seemed like there were more bigger GPs in the sauna....
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Thanks for the elaboration. Yes, it's not too complicated. I hired a guy (fairly good english, no need for translate) from garotocomlocal on Saturday in SP and met at a motel and it was a fairly good experience (after the initial greeting the kisses kinda went dry, but otherwise good).
I was referring to an earlier post, where the poster spoke about hiring Brazilian porn stars who do not advertise as GPs. I should have quoted that, not the response to it as I did
"A tip I got from the boys I have been playing with: most Brazilian porn starts accept programas, but they do not advertise as GPs. They will consider your offer is you reach out th them through the social media."
I was just wondering, since I don't really know which porn stars are Brazilian, where to find, without too much crossreferencing, a compilation of BR porn stars
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On 1/10/2022 at 5:33 PM, LondonF4 said:
Great info thank you!
Great tip about the porn stars. Is there any site that has compiled which porn stars are Brazilians? (I am only a desultory consumer of porn and I wouldn't know which are Brazilian particularly) Thanks!
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On 5/30/2022 at 6:26 PM, Latbear4blk said:
NEVER CLOSE A DEAL WITHOUT A VIDEOCONFERENCE CALL
Do you think the guys advertising on websites are open to this?
They might be wary of time wasters (but it can certainly help the client feel more secure)
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I Skipped Sunday and Monday at the saunas because the previous week they were lackluster. Tuesday was pretty good at 117, especially if it would be your first time there. Basically, what I am looking for is guys so far out of my league that I really have no hope of getting for free on Grindr. For me this means tall(ish), muscular, handsome. Certainly hung is preferable, but particularly if he has a beautiful face and is into kissing then I am game (hopefully as an amuse bouche, followed by a hung chaser after). That night I would say there were 6 such guys. Two I had been with pre-pandemic and were some combination of small dicks and bad lays (my compliments to one of them, who unlike most of the guys I saw there 5-6 years ago when I first went, looks as fresh faced and hot-bodied as when I first saw him...sour attitude unchanged as well.) Third one was a guy--I'd say the best looking of all--who I had the so passionate makeout session with the previous tuesday (smallish and pretty limp dick though); I was open to, but not dying for, a repeat, and he seemed to be getting one client after the next. Fourth was the West African-looking guy, who I had been withe the previous tuesday as well as friday and saturday, if I am not mistaken. After really a really great time tuesday and friday, way worse on saturday, not only was he soft, but the passionate kissing of tuesday and friday was all but gone. Earlier in the evening, I had asked him how long he had been working there, he said 5 years, and I asked him if he was tired of it and he said Siiiim. Then, during our encounter I said he seemed bored or tired, and he gave a look like, yes it's true. He seemed kind of tired tuesday so I thought I would save him for wednesday, my last night in hopes he would be back in good form. (as it turned out, he didnt come). At present, at least if you can get him on a good night, he is the best (and sadly, really only that I saw on this trip), combination of beautiful body, very handsome face, big dick and passionate kissing and performance. You can easily identify him because he is by far the darkest guy there, and inexpicably I never saw him go with another client. (maybe the two are related?). Fifth hottie was clothed and ensconced with a client against the wall, did not seem available. Last hottie, with perhaps the most beautiful face of all but not a smile to be seen, when questioned said he had 18cm (he certainly wasn't showing it off) said he wasn't into kissing or condomless. I could have just tossed the $30 on the maybe 10% chance he would be enjoyable in spite of himself, but I passed.202 on wednesday my last night; it was certainly busy, but alas, not really any top of the line guys. My FOMO is telling me that these have moved to the internet. Sauna veterans may recall the guy with the wings tatooed on his back, who was a regular in the years before the pandemic, as the kind of guy I am talking about. Beautiful body, pleasant face, 9 inches and friendly (he wasn't the best lay, a reluctant kisser and really only wanted to do it doggie and would get soft in other positions, but still I would go with him at least once every trip). Sadly nothing along those linesI would say at the moment that the 117 is markedly superior in quality. In my experience 117 better every night except monday and wednesday, which could effect one's choice of accomodation. Sunday and Monday are pretty skippable. Try to time arrivals to arrive tuesdays.For those who like to look at the kind of men I wish were at the sauna, I can't recommend Forma Fitness (Copacabana) enough. These are tall, big machos with bulging biceps, many in their 30s (which I prefer), maybe not the most chiseled abs but just super testosterone-y. If I was more forward with strangers, I would be tempted to see where I could get with them. ALso has excellent airconditioning. A decouvrir.My last recommendation is Slow Bakery in Botafogo (supposedly also in Ipanema). Top quality 21st century bakery. California-quality sourdough olive bread and pains au chocolat.On my flight now to VCP (yeah, I know, but the days of the $50 sdu-cgh appear to be long gone) so I will put my SP observations in a new thread.
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Just a little update...
SO when I opened Grindr again after an hour expecting to find dozens of messages with threats if I didnt pay him the full "penalty fare" there were only 7 and pretty subdued (i.e., no threats of violence) Surely, I am not the first to be deeply disappointed by his appearance and hopefully he feels grateful to get the utterly undeserved 265. Oddly his messages truly seemed outraged although maybe it is all a farce.
Luckily, he has the distance on on his grindr, so when I could tell he was back home, I left, went to the gym and dinner and made it back without event. I thought about changing accomodation, I have 3 nights left in Rio including tonight, I'm still open to the idea, I'm thinking he's mollified and if he's not the cameras and the rather flimsy doorman would deter him from breaking down my door in the middle of the night, but maybe that is wishful thinking of the same kind that lulled me into inviting him over in the first place.
Can't help the self-recrimination of the bad judgment I displayed in getting involved with this guy. I knew, knew, knew not to hire guys from Grindr where they can disappear without a trace, when there are ones with websites, videos, reviews, everything. I feel really bad that I have incentivized this fraudster and bully to keep at this, by giving him 265 reais. Really, I don't even fault the fraud aspect so much, if he would just politely accept that a lot of guys are not going to be into him (some would still be) and politely accept no for an answer. Really, its the bullying that is the most offensive. I'm kind of chanelling fears of the sissy grammar school me in fear of the playground bully. At first I had offered him 50 reais by ap "for his inconvenience" (Ha--what about my inconvenience!?) but it was only after the threats of hurting me that I acquiesced in the 265. That's some really bad incentives there.
I'm curious about the counterfactual...what if I had opened the door... What if I had gone through with it? After all, he was no longer the super hottie of the pics, he was an utterly ordinary-looking middle aged man with a purportedly 9 incher. I have nonpaid hookups with ordinary-looking guys with big cocks from Grindr all the time, satisfyingly. It was quite a shock and disappointment, when I was expecting a hottie, but should I swallowed that and just gone ahead with it, would it have at least avoided this bad scene? My guess is that he may not have 9 inches, it would not have been the kind of sex I wanted, and, who knows, maybe he would have robbed me or assaulted me.
I can't say it has ruined my trip exactly, but I would say it has turned a trip that was so far in the "very good" range (although maybe lacking of the real "peak experiences" in some but not all of my past trips to Rio) into a trip that "had its ups and downs"
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Maybe better to stick to the saunas....After kind of a boring saturday at 117 and having skipped last night (sunday) because it was quiet, I thought I would try my hand at the online escorts. Bad experience, probably mostly my fault. After looking through the various websites, I contacted about 10, of which 3-4 responded, none seemed particularly friendly or keen on the slow suave sex that I like. So many on grindr, one I contacted accidentally (accidentally in the sense that I Grind for free guys, and some profiles it is clear that they are GP, but this one it was not suggested). He looked a little older, which I am fine with, and otherwise super my type and was keen to do what I wanted. I know it's safer to hire off the websites because there there is at least the guys contact info and some trace of him, whereas someone can just disappear from Grindr.
So yes I invited him to my AIrbnb price was 250 reais, we were supposed to meet in front of the building. He says no I'll just come up, what is the room number. I told him the room number (huge mistake) but I said meet me downstairs, do not contact the doorman, just tell me a few minutes before you arrive and I will wait for you outside. Well, knock at door and I look through the peephole and it is him (or, rather not the him of the pictures, which must have been 10 years old, but an out of shape version of him, he looks really bad). I really did not know what to do, I don;t have any experience with this. He surely didnt want to meet outside because he looked nothing like the pictures. I didnt know what to do, I didnt answer the door. Through the ap, I asked him if he was outside, he said I had given him the wrong apartment number, I said that was my friend;'s aprtment, I said he had ruined the plan by coming up and now my boyfriend found it. Naively I hoped he would go away. The doorman called on the interphone (I didn't answer, how could I communicate?)
He keeps threatening to call the police (for what?) if I don't come down and pay him. He then switched to if I didnt come down he would hurt me. I said I would pay him through an app. Then he said he's going to have the building superintendant come to the apartment (for what offense?). A guy who I guess is the supe knocks on the door, I don't answer (what would I say?) I finally convince him to accept payment online (I guess he's still in the lobby) and now he demands I send him 400, then 500. He accuses me of doing this to other GPs and says I should be punished, that he will call the police because gringos should know that sexual tourism is illegal. I send him 250 plus 15 for uber and I close the ap. I'm sure that when I reopen it there will be 30 messages on there threatening me and demanding the rest.
I feel so burned because it was he who was so at fault by misrepresenting himself, yet I paid the full price and I am afraid to leave the apartment for fear of getting beaten up. Yeah, I think I will stick to the saunas (and yes, the non-paid Grindr hookups)
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I went to one called Sauna Carioca Catete on saturday night. on the last saturday of the month and maybe another saturday, they have a 'party' nudity required and all the rooms are open (so it's more like an orgy, rather than going to a room with a guy. The crowd was largely middle aged, largely not fit, and I realized that my preception of Brazilian cocks is heavily skewed. I expected lots of monsters but there really weren't. Some quite small. That said, there were 2 guys with hot bodies, and one, handsome face too around 40, as a squeezed by him (it was very crowded) leaned forward to kiss me and we made out passionately for what seemed like forever, probably 20-30 min. Ordinary dick and I think a bottom also, so it didnt go any farther, but still quite a pleasant experience. Uncomfortably hot, some feeble airconditioning, about 80F with full humidity. Condoms given out at entrance but did not seem to be in use
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On 5/25/2022 at 4:34 PM, Slvkguy said:
@Canadianbtmguy
Apologies in advance if you’re not a troll or fake account - but your trip reports/posts sure have all the typical signs of a troll:1. Inconsistency describing your age from one post to the next
2. a specific ask for referrals/contact information for escorts in Santo Domingo
3. an obsession w bareback sex with escorts
4. references to numerous “planned trips” yet brief vague trip reports or recycled information from other members.
5. all of the fakes reference “free” sex on Grindr vs paid escort - always
6. Mexico City, Santo Domingo, Istanbul and Rio all within first 5 months of 2022 ? Possible but highly improbable. Barebacking with escorts at every stop ? just doesn’t make sense
I’m not buying it. Sorry. There’s more that doesn’t add up, but I think you get the point
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Whoa. I'm not sure why I really care, but I will take time out of my Rio Saturday (because, yes, I am in Brazil) to respond and disprove this. I had found this forum and hope it could be a sort of community as I attempt the transition from the thrill of Grindr hookups to acceptance of paying for it with escorts.
Someone needs to envision a greater diversity of experience than he is used to in his own life (Perhaps I should say he or she; there was indeed a female client--not sure if cis or trans--in 117 twice this week, so we should be open to welcoming that diversity of experience to the community of well. But yes, I have been to Mexico City, Santo Domingo, Istanbul and Rio all within first 5 months of 2022. Not only that, I've also been to Miami, San Francisco, Paris, Lille, Bruxelles and Milan. Maybe unlikely for some people, but I am sure there are people who have been to as many destinations in a single month.
So here are my passport stamps for Dominican Rep, Turkey and Brazil last friday. I don't see Mexico (do they stamp?) If any doubt remains, I can upload my Aadvantage statement. For good measure, I also throw in France, Belgium and Italy. So thank you for the "apologies in advance" but I would welcome an apology now.
I am the first to admit I have an obsession with sex. This is a forum about sex, so it would not be surprising if the participants skewed toward particular interest in sex. If I was really into gardening you would probably find me on gardenweb. For me, in 2022, sex means condomless sex, with condoms an unwelcome intrusion from the past that I attempt to navigate around. Certainly I view it as the highest form of sex and so I talk about it and the way I attempt to navigate my experiences in order to get it, whether they be paid or sex. If I was on gardenweb, I would be talking about how to maximize my roses and minimize my dandelions. If my strong preference for condomless sex is really so idiosyncratic I can refrain from talking about it, as of no interest to others, but my inkling is I may not be alone in this.
I thought my trip report on Santo Domingo was pretty good frankly. It included recommendations for a gym and for fried chicken near the cine lido, as well as my struggles with accepting paid sex vs the thrill of getting it from a guy who wants to fuck you because he's into you, not for money. None of these topic were "brief, vague or recycled" I apologize I have not written an Istanbul report yet, as I have not been home in between Turkey and Brazil and frankly revisiting the experience (it sucked) is not so appealing. But I will. My report so far from Brazil has mentioned things like 2 gyms and a pharmacy for a covid test, topics that are both specific and non-salacious. Note too, that I am careful to refer to condomless sex, not only because I believe this is the correct non-judgmental term nowadays, but also to avoid sexier terms that may suggest I am somehow getting off on talking dirty. And really, I must note that as I've well disclosed, I have trouble getting off on sex with a hot hung guy who is wearing a condom, what really seems unlikely is that by writing supposedly fictional accounts of travels would be satisfying for me....
So, I would hope to find in these forums both useful information on how to make my sextravels better and also, intangibly, a bit of support and community, as we are engaging in something that, let's face it, is pretty high on the social disapproval scale. In doing so, I would suggest, let us err on the side of kindness and inclusion.
As a final thought, if any of the posters are in Rio until thursday or in SP june 2-9, I would welcome the chance to have a wingman at the saunas
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In both cases it was before the pandemic, so recollections of the names are pretty hazy. (one was below a sort of elevated expressway.) 100% sure the uber did not enter, but left me off in front of the place. I recall that there is an electric sliding gate for the cars and then each unit has its own garage.
I'm pretty sure that the reception is behind a glass window after the electric gate. so instead of approaching the reception in a car, i just did on foot and then when my uber to leave was almost there, she wouldve opened the gate and i wouldve walked out the gate