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Hey guys I have seen a few sexy black guys using Grindr explore in Pattaya. Just wondering if as one has met one yet ?

Having survived Christmas and on opening my computer this morning to find messages from several Forum members whom I’ve met with in Thailand over the past few years, I decided to overcome my innate procrastination and write a report on my mid-November to early December visit to Pattaya and Bangkok. I left California on November 14th very tired and a bit reluctant to get on another plan. I’d been in Thailand in August, back home for two weeks, then two weeks in China, then after a stop at home, in Washington DC for ten days. Now it was time to cross the Pacific again. This isn’t a whine, rather, my journal from the time reminds me that I was questioning why I was heading to Thailand so soon. There wasn’t a good answer beyond the enjoyment I get when I’m there. And, maybe, avoiding where to be the “extra” at a family or friend’s Thanksgiving here in the US. So, off to SFO, United Airlines flight to Tokyo, economy plus seat on the aisle, with an empty seat next to me. In Tokyo, in the UA lounge, I recharge my electronics, read email, take a shower, walk around the terminal to give my legs some exercise. United has booked me through to Bangkok on ANA. At the gate, I learn ANA has upgraded me to Business Class. A gift from ANA and a bulkhead window seat with a dining menu and a nice Bordeaux to help pass the time Weather is good and plane is early arriving in Bangkok at 11:30 pm. To my surprise, the plane parks somewhere away from the terminal and we are all put on buses to the terminal. This is a first on ANA for me. And a time burner waiting for the bus to fill and then the travel to immigration. Exiting the bus, I look for my greeter./expediter ( I learned from PaulSF that for a fee -$30 approximately - someone will meet me as I exit the plane (in this case the bus) and walk me quickly through immigration, find my luggage, and get me to my transportation. So, ten minutes after exiting the bus, I was with my driver, and on my way to Pattaya. Caveat: I did not have to wait for luggage as I only had carry-on. I used Mike’s of Pattaya who have never left me down. 70 minutes later, I’m in my room at the Poseidon. Now, it’s time to provide some background information...when last in Pattaya, i offed Pease from @Home and Sophy from Toy Boys (note for those doubling back on my reports, the names are as they appear on Line, in the earlier telling, I was depending on how I heard them say their names). I had been hearing daily from Peas saying he’d wait after @Home closed for me - as I was due to arrive after 2am. O.K. Sophy I’d planned on seeing later in my visit. Last visit, we’d had a 3-way which went well...I’d also been looking at the apps and was texting to Max, who said he wasn’t a Money boy and sent some great photos. So, I leave the Poseidon and head to @Home, much of Jomtien has closed down for the night, Peas isn’t there. I text him...he’s at a birthday party at one of the big clubs. Can I wait until 4am? Reply: No. At this point only Sun Bar is still open with maybe a dozen guys around the bar. I join them, I buy a drink for the cute boy who gave up his seat at the bar to me. We talk and I chat with the bartender. There is one incredibly handsome guy in a form fitting black tank top talking with another guy very intently. Missed opportunity? For most of the flight from Tokyo, I’d been thinking about hooking up with Peas and having him welcome me to Pattaya. So, I was a bit bummed, I could off the guy who I’d bought a drink but it would have been for convenience - which isn't a bad thing. Then, the incredibly handsome guy was free...the bartender had been watching me watching and asked if I was interested. (There are mamasans in all shapes and guises) I was very interested, so he introduced me to Doh. Doh was in the bar to borrow a phone as his was broken He didn’t work in the bar but was friends with many of the guys who did. The introduction went well, I bought us each a drinks, thanked the bartender, there was an off fee - even though Doh didn't work there. I considered it as a tip to the house and left with Doh for the Poseidon. He was impressed by the room, i was very impressed by his body, we showered together and joined together in the bed. My unexpected change of plans provided a surprise bonus and a truly fine start for my visit.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a reasonably priced but good tailor in Pattaya/Jomtien?

I'll be in Thailand from 16 November to 1 December. In Pattaya from the 16th to 21st or 22nd, then in Bangkok for the remainder. Enjoy meeting other Forum members. Send me a PM if you'd like to meet up. Note: PaulSF is home (or on his way) and I'll missing sitting with him at Maxi's.

Hey, first of all: Thanks for that blog. I plan a trip to Thailand, have never been there, so I looked to some forum entries for some basic information, but I didn't find - too many entries here! :-) So please don't mind for these silly questions. I am a single traveler and I do like Thaiboys, so I just want to know what is the usual tip for a boy for sex - how much money do they expect? Are the tips the same in Bangkok and Pattaya and what would you say: is it better for me as a solo traveler looking for the boys to go to Bangkok or to Pattaya? Can you recommend any places for sex and is there a possibility to have group sex? ;-) I am sure you all know this ans would appreciate any information. Thanks a lot!

I’ve planned a short one week trip to Thailand to relax a bit after some months of hard work in Europe. First part is planned in Pattaya (Agate hotel) and the last days in Bangkok (Raya Surawong hotel). Part 1 : Pattaya I had a very comfortable 11 hour direct flight with Thai Airways. As I had the front row, I had extra leg space and that is nice to have. However, my left feet was itching all the time. Arrived around 6AM at the airport, immigration took only 15 minutes and my taxi to Pattaya was waiting for me. I prefer to stay in the Jomtien Complex, but not in the Zing as last time. Agate Hotel is indeed a lot better, but more expensive. The room is very nice. When undressing in my room, I notice the itching on my feet was caused by an infection. So first thing is to visit this website and search the keyword “hospital” to see a doctor. Bangkok Hospital in Pattaya has really good quality service. Very friendly staff guides you as soon as you arrive. Doctors and nurses are really caring about their patients. Doctor has a look, does some small surgery and suggests me to stay overnight, which I refuse, so I get some antibiotics and a new appointment the next day for checkup. The bandage on my foot makes walking difficult and the doctors message is “no water, no sand”. The rest of day 1, I spend near the hotel in the Jomtien Complex. As I’m not allowed to have water on my feet, this excludes showering before and after massage. Excellent dinner at Poseidon : a 3-way course with a drink for about 500 baht. I really love this chef! Afterwards a drink in one of the bars, where a boy named Soda recognises me from last time, so we have a drink together. Not into offing today, so back to the hotel to rest. Day 2 starts with hospital visit. Luckily no further complications, so daily wound care is all I need for the rest of my trip. In the early evening I invite Soda to my room. Nice time together and 1.000 bath well spent. Going to Boystown afterwards. Visited most of the bars, and stayed quite long in X-boys as I liked the show. Day 3 is for Sunee. Winner was a bit disappointing but as drink price is only 79 baht I don’t mind having a look, didn’t enter Eros as I didn’t find the boys attractive. Had fun in Nice Boys and the bar just besides. The boy I had invited to sit with me even suggested a 3-some with one of the other boys. But I wasn’t in the mood tonight, so I didn’t off anyone.

I asked this a few years ago, but checking again in case anything is new. Ill be in Pattaya with my partner, where can i find some afternoon adult fun if i can get away on my own for a few hours?

It is our first time in Pattaya. Finally bought the tickets, booked a condo in Jomtien and dived straight in. Along the way this forum’s contributors provided a wealth of valuable advice and, in turn, I want to share a little of our experiences by way of acknowledgement, and also in the hope that it might encourage and inform some other potential newbies. I am Irish and Adhik is Nepalese – we are polar opposites in all things but one - we are both tops. I had allowed myself the luxury of an early start, arriving four days in advance to get over jet lag and check out the lie of the land. Off the airport bus, into the condo nearby and what a view from the room, seventeen floors up and overlooking Dongtan beach! A quick shower and down to the Jomtien Complex next door. The letharge of travel disappeared in a moment. Past the massage shops on the way in, cute boys offering a Thai welcome, then The Venue with the Thursday night show in full flight. No entry charge, just buy a drink, and settle down for something new, for me at least, a hugely entertaining ensemble of dancing boys, lip-synching ladyboys and one very Hot boy in particular. Enough for the first night, just off the plane…maybe, maybe not. Walked the length of the street enjoying the boys all around, not sure where to look at times, settled down in Question Mark Bar for a few drinks with a handsome Thai boy, enough for the first night? Maybe, maybe not, a little light on my mobile phone is blinking… Friday and Saturday are spent getting to know the place, road testing a couple of bottoms, massage in the room, drinks in the bars. Jet lag is cruel, just when you think you’re over it, back it comes with a sucker punch. Slept until Sunday afternoon. Monday morning was breakfast in bed with a boy called Red, not his real name of course, not even his fake name, no names on here are real. Now I said I was beside Dongtan Beach, the famous gay beach, but up to now I had avoided it. In my country we put on clothes to go to the beach, and go swimming in wetsuits. I am not a sun and surf kind of guy. But it was time to dip my toe in the water, so off I went – what happens at a gay beach anyway? Construction work along the beachfront is disruptive, but good to see a big pipeline going in to catch all the outfalls running down to the shore, water quality is important on a beach. The gay section is marked by rainbow flags though the area is largely men only on either side as well. I settle on a sun lounger under a canopy of sun shades looking out over the sea, chilled coke drink in hand. Stunning. An stream of vendors offer massage, drinks, ices, Viagra. The last one must have known about the jet lag. In the heat of the day guys from the surrounding concessions make their way down the sand and into the surf to seek relief in the Gulf of Thailand. A public toilet would be a good addition. It is blissful but I am restless all the same. Adhik is due in this evening so I leave the beach to catch the airport bus. Smiling with relief, we connect beside the Pattaya bus gate at the airport. Two hours later we are trundling past the entrance to the Jomtien Complex on the way to the condo when Adhik decides to see it first hand. It is 10pm and the street is hopping. We run the gauntlet of dozens of boys all welcoming him to Thailand it seems. I didn’t think you could see a Nepalese blush. Things are going to get very interesting.

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This is a report of my second visit to Thailand: 3 days in Bangkok and 3 days in Pattaya. Day 1 : Sunday I arrive around noon at Suvarnabhumi airport. Bought a SIM-card at the airport (299 baht for 7 days) and took an Uber (400 baht) to the hotel. Last time, I stayed at the Tarnatawan, but on recommendation of forum members, I now have chosen the Raya Surawong. As I arrived before 2PM, the room was not ready. This was not an issue for me, as I was hungry went to have dinner nearby. The suite on the 8th floor was really nice and big. I will certainly rebook Raya for next visits. In the late afternoon, I decided to walk to Babylon Sauna, a 20-30 minute walk. I already visited the sauna last year and I really liked it. Sauna was crowded, but not much action. Until I went to the towel free zone downstairs : a lot of fun going on there ! Did not feel like walking back to the Raya. I’m not a fan of motorbike taxis, so I waited a few minutes for an Uber to pick me up. This costed me 50 baht, which is even cheaper than a motorbike. For the first evening, I wanted to see several shows in Soi Twilight and find a boy to off. I went to Hot Male, Classic Boys and Fresh Boys. In Classic Boys,, I noticed Rak (nr. 9), a very cute bottom twink which I already offed last year. Didn’t off him immediately, but waited until the end of the evening and took him to my hotel.

Trip Report – July 2015 – Chiang Mai – Sukhothai – Kanchanaburi – Pattaya Friday 3 July fly Thai Airways from Rome to Bangkok. Flight was good and almost every seat taken – I was in peasant class so it was a somewhat uncomfortable journey. Watched lots of movies and only manage to sleep very little. Arrive Saturday 4 July at BKK at almost 6am exhausted, went through immigrations which had a line that lasted about 50 minutes as it seemed that many flights arrived at the same time and at that hour not all of the booths were open. Went to the ATM and withdrew some Bahts, then went to the carousel to retrieve my luggage. A Thai guy who I did not know who works at BKK comes up to me and asks me my flight number and then volunteers to assist me to find my luggage and introduces himself to me as, Ananda, and then brings me to get an AIS SIM card. Ananda asked me if we could meet later (we exchanged phone numbers), as I told him that my number 1 priority was to go to sleep. I then checked into the Novotel located at the airport, as they have “Freshen up” rates which I took for 5 hours so that I could shower and sleep. After a 10 hour flight I wanted some pampering. Woke up about 11:15, got ready, checked out, and then took the Novotel back to the Terminal. The Novotel is physically attached to the Terminal but it is a long walk so the shuttle it was for me. I checked in for my Bangkok Airways flight to Chiang Mai, got rid of my luggage and then texted Ananda and I offered him lunch. Nice guy, has worked at BKK for 5 years and uses his job as an opportunity to meet and seduce falangs. He was disappointed to find out that I was not spending any time in BKK this trip and we left it at that. However, later on into my trip he did try stalking me with constant text messages which I conveniently ignored as I could tell that he was too pushy for my tastes. Had a great less than 1 hour flight to Chiang Mai and was disappointed to find out that my guide Woody, and his partner, Non, from the last time were not already waiting for me at the airport. I texted them and within 15 minutes they were there to pick me up and we were reunited again after 18 long months. You may remember the great time that I had with Woody and Non from my December 2013 trip report: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/9381-trip-report-chiang-mai-29-dec-in-progress that I decided to use their services again, but instead of for just 2 days, this time it would be 7 days, where we planned a big trip to the outskirts of Chiang Mai, Sukhothai, and then Kanchanaburi. I booked us a nice room at the Qi 68 guest house, http://www.qi68hotel.com/ in Chiang Mai in the Chang Phuak area which was convenient for our eventual night escapades. I could see immediately that the guys were disappointed with my hotel choice and I did not find out why until we arrived later in the trip at Sukhothai. Then we went to get a bite to eat, and then we visited some of the more important Wats (Wat Phra Sing, Wat Chedi Luang, Wat Chiang Man and Wat Suan Dok) which is always such a pleasure for me as I like to watch the guys do their Buddhist prayer thing, especially the one where they shake a canister that is full of Buddhist Fortune Sticks until 1 falls out which has a corresponding number. The noise of the shaking fills the Wat full of hope and spiritual energy. They then leave the prayer area and usually to the side is a “fortune” that is written that corresponds to the number. They love sharing with me this entire process and I enjoy participating in it. In addition, each of the Wats are unique in their own way and from an artistic and cultural point of view they never disappoint me. Then off to the Saturday night market where as usual I was overloaded with its immensity of stuff for sale, entertainment, and smells of the various foods that are available. As it was Saturday night, we headed over to the Circle Pub http://www.circlepubchiangmai.com/ to see the show which was of a typical go-go boy style show and then we moved on to Adams Apple, http://www.adamsappleclub.com/ as I did not get to see it on my last Chiang Mai trip and I had promised Vinapu after my last LOS trip that I would check it out on my next trip. We walked in and it was pretty busy – not packed but a decent crowd. The owner/manager immediately welcomed us and there was a gaggle of guys around him as he was definitely being entertained by most of them. We watched the various Go-Go boy skits, and then Woody talked to a few, as he seems to have contacts with them. The night we were there most were of the twink type – not my type – and being my first day in LOS I was tired so we called it a night. Would I go back to Adam’s Apple – most likely yes, as I would want to have more energy for my next visit and maybe arrive a little earlier to see if we missed some of the famous manly Shan types that I heard about but did not see much of that first night, as perhaps they had all already been offed. Back to the Qi 68 guest house where Woody and Non gave me an excellent 4 handed massage. You may remember from my previous trip report that they both work as masseurs at the Classic House in Chiang Mai, www.classichousemassage.net/ . We did not meet there as I found Woody on Line when he was advertising his tour guide business, as that is their true passion and massages are their 2nd passion. So, I got the best of both worlds in this trip. The Qi 68 guest house does not have breakfast, they have a large common kitchen if you want to use it. This is the reason why the guys were disappointed with my lodging choice. So, I asked them to take us to the "Butter is Better" diner in Chiang Mai (189 Chang Klan Road) http://www.butterisbetterbakery.com/ which is truly an excellent place for falang breakfast, but the menu is rich enough to even satisfy the Thai guys, so we were all happy. Today’s agenda (Sunday 5th of July) was to go to see the famous Wat Prathat Doi Suthep, which is 15 kms outside of Chiang Mai up in the beautiful national park of Doi Pui, about 3,500 ft above sea level. Woody and Non have a car, so transportation is not an issue. I did not get to see this important historical gem, which was built back in the 1300s on my last trip so it was very important to see it this time. We also ventured up the 300 steps to see the marvelous golden pagoda which they say contain the relics of the Lord Buddha. Lastly, the view of Chiang Mai down in the valley is breathtaking. Then we drove further up the Doi Suthep mountain to see the Bhubing Rajanives Palace and beautiful rose gardens, which is a royal residence built in 1961 to accommodate the royal family during state visits to Chiang Mai. My guides having been there several times were more taken back by the lack of water in the reservoir and were very worried about the ongoing drought in Thailand and lack of rain. I noted that the reservoir was very low – but it being my first time it did not register to me as alarming as it did to the guys. Ironically, I chose July for this trip as I wanted to experience Thailand in the hot, sticky, and rainy season (since I am thinking of moving here I want to see our beloved LOS in all of its seasons). In my 12 days here I only saw brief rain 2 times – so this drought problem is very worrying. The grounds are immense and there are many botanical gardens and buildings to see. By the way, if you are in shorts, you will need to rent long pants in respect to the royal family. Then off to a great Thai lunch at the Palace’s car park. Then the guys wanted me to see a real Hill Tribe village, so we visited Doi Pui Mong – it was interesting to see how the hill tribe people live. Of course, a big market that wound through the narrow street of the mountain village which was conveniently covered, as the hot sun was scorching. Plus, my first normal Thailand intestinal attack arrived and it was off to a Hill Tribe outhouse – not a pleasant experience but necessary to survive the drive back to downtown Chiang Mai. Please note to bring sanitary supplies on these kinds of “out of the city” adventures. Back to the guest house to freshen up and then off to see where Woody and Non live – they live with Woody’s sister and her husband and their 2 children, peeboy and num. They showered and packed their bags as we decided to leave Chiang Mai tomorrow. While they prepared themselves, I tried to entertain the 2 children with their toys and of course communication was impossible but it was still fun. Then we were off to see the famous Sunday walking street, which I saw last time but I really enjoyed it as it is packed with cultural delights, entertainment, great smells, and the ability to see many variations of people. While walking around, I saw a travel office offering some zip line adventures, something that I had wanted to try for a long time. I asked the guys to talk to the staff about it and we left with some exciting brochures for some places that are about an hour outside of Chiang Mai. The guys were quite surprised that this old falang was up for some adventure in the jungle. I told them, “I am not dead yet and you only live once!!” We visited more Wats, with their beautiful night lights and then we headed off for some dinner. In this photo I thought that something was wrong with my camera – because when I checked the photo of the same Wat, it had 2 different colors – then the guys told me that it was planned that way with the lighting – a very nice touch. After dinner we went to visit the New My Way bar http://www.newmywaybar.com/ for some fun. As expected, Woody knew one of the go-go guys, Song, who was an ex-Classic House masseur, and so we offed sexy Song and brought him back to the guest house. He had a perfect body, 6-pack abs, very masculine, and sexy. Unfortunately, he could not keep an erection, as I think he was a bit put off by the 6 hand massage on me and too shy. We made the best of it and everyone got to squirt at the end. This was my first 6 hand massage in my life and I think it will be my last. Yes, it was nice to have 6 hands moving all over your body, but it was too intense and it was hard to keep from losing control and cumming to a quick end. Lot’s of requests to stop, slow-down, don’t touch, ecc. – so too much energy focused on trying to not arrive to a quick finish instead of just relaxing and enjoying the sensual massage session. Monday July 6, we check out of the Qi 68 guest house and then head over again to the "Butter is Better" diner to fill up on some good breakfast food before our big adventure to the Mae Taeng river, a little over an hour from Chiang Mai to visit the Zipline Chiangmai adventure park. On the way you pass the Maetaman Elephant Camp, and the dirt road was full of Elephants and Ox’s carting people around who were having a lot of fun. I decided on this trip for NO elephant rides, as I already did it last time in Koh Samui, and after 20 minutes I was very bored, as the elephant moves so slow – so once was enough for me. So this trip is more adrenaline oriented and hence why the choice for the zipline adventure. We arrive and we meet very sexy Mieng (who is from Sukhothai our next destination) who would be our zipline guide during our adventure. At this wonderful place, you get to admire beautiful wild Thai orchids, catch an awe-inspiring view of the Mae Taeng River, which is way below you while you are soaring from tree-to-tree, almost like a monkey. We signed up for the 2 hour zipline adventure, which entails 31 different tree-top platforms, which varied in length from 20 meters to a truly amazing 400 meter zipline. They have plans next year to open an additional 800 meter zipline and I definitely will want to try it. This place is great – lots of attention to safety details, a training class before starting the adventure, etc. At first I was very apprehensive and scared at the thought of falling into the jungle and abyss underneath, but after the first 30 minutes I was much more relaxed and found myself having the time of my life. The highlight is when Mieng convinced each one of us to let go of the zipline break and handle and to just fly across the jungle tree tops upside down like a monkey. What exhilaration seeing everything from an upside down point of view. It is truly a full on adrenaline experience and if you have a strong heart, I urge you to do it if you also have the stamina. I am almost 54 and if I can do it you can also do it. Plus it is a great experience to become absorbed into the Thai tropical forest and jungle. Ok, that is enough for this portion of my trip report. I hope that my writing style does not bore you – I’m a details guy, and it is the little details that interest me the most when I read trip reports. Soon I hope to update this report with our continued adventures to Sukhothai and then Kanchanaburi. Afterwards I will leave my guides Woody and Non to head off to Pattaya for 4 days of debauchery (as no guides are required ;>)) before heading back home to Italy.

Just got back from a brief trip to Jomtien Beach for the weekend. I have never been a Pattaya fan and until this trip i just didn't understand the place. I must say this was one of the funnest trips i have ever had in Thailand. Or at least in the past decade or so. Where to start? Jomtien Complex wasn't too busy but not eerily deserted. I hate being the only customers in a bar and being sized up by all the boys. Most of the places on the main strip had some customers and it seemed just right to me. The price of the drinks is an absolute bargain. I live in Bangkok at the moment and have basically abandoned going to Soi Twilight because it is so expensive and it just doesn't seem so friendly these days. I prefer the company of Thai boys vs. VN or Cambodian guys and the fact I speak Lao a fair amount makes all of those Issan twinks nice for me to talk to in JT complex. I am a fan of the beer bar or terrace bar much more than gogos. In this sense JT is a great place for me. I tried Sunnee awhile ago but it seemed pretty dead Boyztown isn't my thing. JT in comparison seems relatively vibrant. The selection of twinks is pretty good. I love a twink with a nice pliable, bubble butt. There are plenty of these types to choose from. I stayed at Poseidon at the entrance of the main soi. I really enjoyed it there. I felt they really made me feel at home. The owner Heiko is a very friendly guy and all of the staff were as well, sometimes hilariously so. I said I can be a bit shy and he and a bunch of his German friends laughed and told me some of their antics, there was a feeling of camaraderie. The rooms are nice enough traditional sort of artsy fartsy boutique hotel furnishing. I mean that in a good way there is a sense of style there. The service is fantastic and you do not need to feel shy about taking guests here. And that is where we get to the part everybody reading a Pattaya report wants to read. The pool is very small but in an indoor air conditioned room with a small bar. In the day time it looks abandoned (of course this is low season so don't know how it is during the peak) but as their website discreetly informs you they are very friendly to guests and you can bring anybody you want to join you. Okay so what could possibly make a small indoor pool such a big detail in the reason I chose this place? Well my partner figured the formula out for this. Go out around the complex and round up about 4 available twink power bottoms, make sure they have speedos and bring them in to the pool after bar closing. We had the pool to ourselves and the really funny manager Lucky was installed to babysit us and keep our glasses topped up. I can not stress enough how funny and crazy Lucky is. He isn't my type or a twink but I can see he understands what I do like. He is just genuinely good company and a really playful light hearted man. He isn't an imposing presence and as soon as he comes in with the boys he makes it very clear you don't need to be shy just because he is there. He also drank and swam with us. Because he joined in the fun i felt much less apprehensive. He became more of a friend than some random staff member observing us. As far as the twinks go, now you are in the jacuzzi being served and surrounded by very friendly boys with sultry dick sucking lips and asses that are going to need to be accommodated at some point. My partner was drunk so I got a boy to go buy some kamagra gell for him to eat and he sat there the entire time with a hard on plopping out of his trunks with a twink on his lap with a big shit eating grin. He had never tried kamagra or viagra before. The boys were playful enough and although nothing too hard core happened in the pool area got a nice set of photos that are pretty horny for a souvenir. It could have probably got much more wild but I am not really into sex in public. Obviously if you aren't in the pool alone late at night you might exercise discretion depending on the vibe and who is around. One really cute boy was in the jacuzzi grinding his speedo clad ass into my partners willing face though, so it was close to becoming a bit heavier. If these guys are just doing it for the money they are very good actors because all of them were hard and demanding pretty constant attention. i guess with 4 of them around and only two farang, competition is a good thing. Lucky's BF showed up at some point, another nice Thai guy and they seemed amused at the circus atmosphere that had sprouted up. At some point Lucky went into the kitchen and brought out some plates of smoked salmon and sashimi with salad. There was a birthday party in the restaurant earlier and I assume it was left over from that but it was comped so it was a very nice gesture. It was also very good. We were spending pretty freely and the atmosphere was amazing so I am not sure if this would be normal or if they upped the service a notch because we were spending. I am guessing some combination of both. They have a great selection of wine at pretty good prices for a place in Thailand. I think we were paying just north of 1,000 Baht a bottle. But of course with 6 horny guys swimming we worked up a thirst so it does add up if you drink 6 bottles. lol In hindsight I might have suggested the boys drank beer to economize but you only live once. By this time i had other more pressing matters on my mind than my wallet anyway. We had a one bedroom suite and next time I will get the two bedroom. My poor back and knees had problems fucking the boy on a hard tile floor. They did bring a duvet and pillows for me as I explained the situation to them. Again Lucky seemed amused at my predicament, in a good way. My partner met me when I was myself a twink and we are an old married couple so we prefer to use and abuse boys in privacy apart from one another. The boy I ended up with was a hungry power bottom and that suits me just fine. At some point in the evening he was riding and grinding on it so hard I began to feel slightly used like I was simply some human dildo installed in the room only for his amusement. I quickly got over the shame of this. I don't have any idea of his name or if he is on GR or Grindr but Big kiss bar always had one or two twinks there. That is where I found him. Just look for the twink with the come fuck me eyes and he is easily spotted. Eating recommendation near there is Pastrami on Rye. Nothing satisfies a hunger inducing session of sodomy more than a pastrami sandwich. It is a match made in heaven. lol The car from Poseidon is good and the driver played western music at a tolerable level. it was also very spacious and comfortable. don't remember the make but it was a nice car and good service. Probably a couple hundred Baht more than you can get a car for elsewhere but no haggling and door to door service. I was feeling a bit queasy from the previous nights antics so appreciated the comfort. So the lessons I learned about the Pattaya area have made me change my mind about the place. My formula is like this. 1. Stay a shorter time but live better 2. Stay in a place that encourages and embraces your perversity. The hotel did not make me feel shy no matter what. Believe it or not I am a shy guy. I would never dream of dragging a crew such as this into my Bangkok condo. 3. Budget enough for the time you are in Pattaya to act on whatever deviant impulse you have and not worry. 4. Don't go to often. Simple point here if you go too often it is the same boys who get clingy and it would get old. I plan to visit maybe once every three months. 5. Even if you can get a hard on make sure to have viagra or kamagra so you can avoid whiskey dick. I find with myself I am actually a bit horny recounting this tale but i can have issues when demanded to perform. Condoms as well this should be self explanatory in this day and age. 6. Do not wake up before 2 PM. 7. The temples are great and so is the golf? lol My new budget for Pattaya is around $500 a day but I live in Bangkok so I can go anytime for just a weekend of filth and sleaze. This is a bit excessive and of course you can live on way less but the weekend I have just had was a lot of fun. This is enough to not even have to question your choice of meal, how many boys, or where you will stay with in reason. This is also for two people on a short holiday. Don't let my price estimate deter you, for what we got it was a bargain. This level of drunken, carousing, buffoonery in Bangkok would cost substantially more. It was like our 20 year honeymoon. I think I would get bored in Jomtien if I stayed any longer than a couple of days. None of it is all that expensive in and of itself it is just a question of how ridiculous/flamboyant you want to be. 1. Room: 2,600 that's a single room suite next time I would do the 2 bedroom suite for 4,000. so that is 8,000 for the weekend. 2. Boys: 300 each off fee and i tip the ones who stay 2,000 and the ones that don't 500. So that's 4,600 on this occasion. 3 Food: around 2,000 Baht a day for two people. 4. drinks: how long is a string? With wine and 6 people around 8,000 Baht a day. With wine even if the bottle is only 1,000 Baht each round is two bottles with that number of people. 5. limo service: 1,800 Baht as i said it is a nice care and you can get cheaper. So round trip was around 3,600 to central Bangkok, the airport is cheaper. 6. misc.: 500-1,000 Baht a day. Thats the basic break down of how the weekend went by price just to show how I arrived at the numbers I gave earlier. I am looking forward to doing my birthday party down there in October. So that's my trip report and i hope it wasn't too graphic for the sensitive virgin ears of this forums readers. It is the best gay holiday I have had in over a decade. Next time I would waste less money and time shopping around the soi and get some beverages in the room to save a bit.

I have been a regular visitor to Bangkok for over a decade but have never been to Pattaya. Now I am planning my first trip and after searching various websites I can't find anything that seems to match Le Meridian which I use in Bangkok: five star, guest friendly, easy walk to nightlife, swimming pool relatively free of children (I swim to exercise). In your collective wisdom, is there an equivalent option in Pattaya? If the answer is 'no', is there an equivalent in Jomtien or, generally, what would be the closest match? All advice appreciated.

Find myself in need of some advice. Was pick-pocketed tonight an a baht bus. They got away with my mobile, but luckily nothing else. The reason I think pick-pocketed rather than dropped or lost is that the phone was pretty quickly switched off and isn't online to be tracked. So, I'm now in need of a replacement. Whilst I realise there are hundreds of places here in Pattaya, can anyone recommend somewhere "safe"? TukCom maybe? I really don't want to be ripped off any further so any assistance would be gratefully received. [edit] Can anyone confirm if I will have any issues with a phone bought here when I go back to the UK?

Hey fellow Thailand-lovers! I am back here in Paradis for about 10 days! Spent a few days in Bangkok upon arrival over the weekend as usual. Had a chance to visit Hero twice. Counter to some other recent reports on the forum's here I found both the massage and extra services to be just as awesome and reliable as usual. It was clear however that business is quite low for Hero right now; the waiting area almost empty at peak time on both Friday and Sunday and they've shut off the hot water for all the showers which isn't great given the strong A/C. Luckily I had two different handsome studs make feel quite warm and fuzzy and left extremely happy on both occasions. I am now in Pattaya where the same quality of masseurs regrettable are not available but instead I am enjoying the thriving scene of Boys Town with BoysBoysBoys still putting on the best shows of its kind in the Kingdom. Predominantly Chinese customers for the show, leaving all the potential offs for us few farangs (no complaining). Visted Walking street yesterday to nuture also my interest in cute Thai ladies but that street is so overrun with tour-groups from China these days that I quickly made my way back to safe-haven BT. I won't make as lengthy and explicit reports this time as I am finding myself short on time in this relaxing place! About to head-off to BBB in BT again where there is a very handsome tall and fit thai boy with an extraordinary appendage (no 72) who I will check out further if all goes well...

Hi - In May, I'lll be in Pattaya for two weeks conducting research. I've never been to Thailand, so any pointers on where to stay would be helpful (cheap and close to activity is always good). I'd like to find some other gay foreigners to hang out with. My research involves the ladyboy scene. I'm not attracted to ladyboys per se, but if you are, that's cool (I might ask you a bunch of questions and acknowledge you in my book if you want); if you're not, all the better, since I'd also like to find other gay/bi men to explore with.

I'm preparing my first visit to Thailand and would like to stay about a week : a few days in Bangkok and a few in Pattaya. Where should I spend the weekend : in Bangkok or Pattaya?

Hello everyone, I am very sorry because my english is very bad^^. I will go in Thailand for the first time in a few months and I would like to have some advices to organize my trip. I am going to Thailand for the gay sex tourism so I thought to go one week in Pattaya and one week in bankok. First, I am wondering if I must rent an hotel room in advance or if there are always available rooms so I don't need to rent à room in advance ? Next, I would like an hôtel room near the gay quarter of Pattaya and Bankok and I will be very happy if you tell me some advices about good hotels to have crazy night. Thank you for your help.

Hey everyone! Hope y'all doing good. Been a long time since i posted here (even though i'm lurking almost daily.) For the first time in almost 2 years, i will have around a 10 days of vacation next month and i'm planning on going to Pattaya/Bangkok (living in Chiang Mai right now but the gay scene here is at the moment 70% dead.... really boring.) The last month have been a very difficult one for me (my friend died at full moon party because she got stung by jellyfish, uncle died, boyfriend left, etc) so i'm basically looking to meet new people, change place and try to have some fun. The last time i been in Pattaya was in 2013 so i guess alot of things changed since then. I have a budget of around 25-35k baht (hotel/transportation paid.) Basically, what i would like to do is: - Meet with other people and make new friends around a good beer or a good meal (preferably foreigners since it's more easy to talk about a variety of things and our love for thai guys). - Organize a party somewhere - Meet twinks fem thai type boys (not too feminine though...) Ya that's basically that. I mainly would love to meet new friends and socialize and meet twinks thai boys. So if anyone of you in either Bangkok - Pattaya - Phuket have any suggestions (go-go, bars, spa, whatever) please let me know. Thanks!

I am dithering about whether to choose to stay near jomtien beach or in the neighbourhood of boyz town during my visit in pattaya. Planning to visit for 2 days (then back to BKK), I want to go to both boyz town an the dongtan beach. My main activities will be in the vicinity of the boyz town from night until late, just go to the beach during daytime. I rather stay near the central pattaya because I want to hang out around the area until late and it's convenient for me not to take taxi back to the hotel. But on the other hand, I will have to take my stuffs to the beach. Is there anyone having experience staying in the center and moving to the beach also? Would it be better to reserve a room nearby the beach? It will be my first solo visit to pattaya, so any comments would be appreciated

Hi guys Is anyone in Pattaya now and can send me a special picture? For more details send me a PM Thank you.

Can anyone recommed some options for daytime fun in Pattaya? Im visiting in September with my partner who will be keeping a close watch on me so not expecting to be able to get away for more than a few hours in the afternoon. I'm hopeing to visit Blue House again for a massage but not sure what other options there are around town. Any advise appreciated.

Any good advice where to go for permanent hair removal in Pattaya? Back and front. Hopefully painless. What about prices?

This is the last segment of my 25 wonderful days in Thailand. 09 January – 14 January 2014 Trip Report to Pattaya Thursday 09 January – Arrive in Pattaya - went to BoyzTown Flew to UTP - Pattaya – Utapao from USM - Koh Samui with Bangkok Airways departing at 11:10am and arriving at 12:25pm, costing 5,210 bahts – not bad for a 1hour 15 minute flight. Arriving at the U-Tapao-Pattaya International Airport was a strange feeling as it has the look and feel of a military airport. In fact, it is a joint civil-military airport housing the Royal Thai Navy Airfield. Interestingly, U-Tapao was an ex-military base for the United States Air Force during the Vietnam War years. The airport is about 45 minutes away from BoyzTown in downtown Pattaya. Taxis were scarce so I had to share a van with 8 other single guys that looked like they were from Russia and/or some Arab countries. As they were very heterosexual, it was good that I was the last stop, as I would not have been able to imagine the look on their faces had we entered BoyzTown as the first stop. Hehehehe. Checked into The Ambiance hotel (at the recommendation of Anonone and many others from this forum). It was recommended for me since I am a “first timer” in Pattaya and the hotel is right in the middle of BoyzTown right next to Boyz, Boyz, Boyz. Well after unpacking and then going to the nearby Family Mart to stock up the room fridge, I headed out to check the BoyzTown street and right away I was swooped up by the sexy Alex barman from Boyz, Boyz, Boyz. He asked me to sit for a drink outside the go-go boy bar and then he asked me if I wanted to off him. Of course I said yes and within 20 minutes from exiting the hotel to hitting the street, we were back in the hotel having great sex. Simply amazing, as this is an all-time record for me – in quickness in getting someone in my bed. Alex left after given the white envelope and then I took a shower and dressed for the night out and ate at the Boat Bakery just around the corner on Pattaya Second Road, for some quick, cheap and fairly good Thai food, where I watched all of the Russians on the busy street – quite entertaining. I had never seen such a huge concentration of Russians before. Went back to Boyz, Boyz, Boyz and I was again greeted by Alex who then took me inside the go-go bar to get a good close seat to see the show. The show was very good and I was impressed. The best scene was when the breakdance group of young Thai college students performed some amazing feats on the stage. They had an incredible amount of talent and were very sexy to watch. I asked my designated bar man if any were off-able and he said no. The rest of the show was similar to the ones that I saw in the BKK go-go boy bars. Show ended and I decided to call it a night. Friday 10 January – Went to Jomtien Dongtan beach, Boyz Gym massage, and Vassa Bar. I wanted to check out the famous Dongtan beach so I took the 15 minute trip there by mocy. Being the first time I did not know what to expect. I was pleasantly surprised because I liked the proximity to Boyztown and the fact that it is much less urban in Jomtien. You really feel that you have left the congested Pattaya as you are surrounded by a nice beach on the waterfront with lounge chairs and umbrellas and behind them are giant palm and coconut trees which create a big refuge where people are laying down on blankets getting massages or just relaxing in the shade. In the shaded area are bars that offer refreshments and lunch. In addition, there are vendors selling their wares as well as massage guys circulating around offering massages and guys offering pedicures/manicures. All of the conveniences are brought to you. The bar guys at the gay beach are very sexy and competitive (in the sense that they would say, “stay here with us” or “come here”) – which made it difficult to know where to stay. Obviously the gay rainbow flag helped – but they were already soliciting way before I reached the gay flag. There were pockets of Russian families around interspersed with small groups of gays – some Russian, some European and some Asian. Also, later in the afternoon, some Thai guys started milling around trying to find company – but always more in the shaded area. I took a swim and I can say that the water was mostly clean and definitely cleaner then the Roman beach where I go in the summer back in Italy. The hardest dilemma is to decide to keep the umbrella open or closed – as the sun would be too intense and then it would be time to open the umbrella again. I was making the bar guys crazy with my constant requests to open and close. In Koh Samui, since there was so much free space you could always keep your umbrella open and sit in the lounge chair underneath protected from the sun or put your beach towel out on the free space in the sand to get the sun when you wanted without having to disturb the bar guys. Dongtan is too crowded – as there is NO free space to do this so instead you need to constantly open and close the umbrella. I met a great guy from Israel (who formerly lived in Russia) who was sitting near me who was quite sexy and very talkative. Several sexy massage guys would stop by and sit on his lounge chair and try to convince him to order their services and when he would say no, they would try to caress his ever growing package in his swimsuit. It was very erotic and he was slightly embarrassed (because I was there) but at the same time I believe that he liked all of the attention and I think that he wanted to show off his tool in a discrete way. He helped me to understand how things work at Dongtan – as it is quite discreet and you need to figure out their subtleties. The Israeli guy left for the Sansuk Sauna – http://www.sansukpattaya.com/ - as he told me that he was now horny and wanted some Russian cock. He said that Sansuk was a great place to meet and fuck with horny Russians. I wished him luck and told him that I had Thai meat on my menu instead of Russian meat. On leaving the Dongtan beach I decided to take a walk away from Jomtien and instead towards Pattaya on the sidewalk that is between the coconut tree shade and the beautiful View Talay Condo complex. It was beautiful, as the sun was starting to set. As you might remember from my prior Trip Reports, one of the scopes of this trip was to see where I would want to live in Thailand when I will eventually retire and I can say that I believe that it will perhaps be here. I liked the access to the gay beach, which is surrounded by other gay establishments, the proximity to both the nearby Jomtien complex with many more gay businesses, the proximity to South Pattaya (Boyz Town and Sunee). But most important to me was the feeling of nature and the greenness of the surrounding area. Too much concrete and urban congestion gets on my nerves – so, Dongtan seems to be a nice compromise. è It you live here in Jomtien – please comment on what it’s like to live here as opposed to living in Pattaya, or Bangkok or anywhere else in Thailand. It will help me to plan for the future. <-- At the end of the sidewalk, I took a mocy back to BoyzTown for an after beach nap in my hotel room. Woke up somewhat horny and looked on Jack’d and I saw one of the massage boys (Krit – 27 years old) who was sitting outside from The Boyz Sauna Gym http://www.boyzgym.com/ which is connected to The Alliance massage shop was writing to me to see if I wanted a massage. I said yes and within 5 minutes he was up in my hotel room. How convenient. He gave me a great 1.5 hour massage – ok, that part was only 45 minutes and the rest was hot sexual pleasure. We both came and appeared to be satisfied. I was. Paid the 1,000 baht tip to him and the rest went on the hotel bill – another convenience. Showered, off to dinner, and after dinner, off to The Vassa Bar to see their famous towel night (since so many from this forum have written about Vassa I had to check it out). It was 10pm when I arrived and it was packed – which isn’t saying much, as the bar is tiny and there are only 2 rows of seats for the customers, where the first row is perhaps only 1 meter from the stage. The only seat available was right in the front row and I took it. I was immediately uncomfortable as the boys were so young and right in my face. Now being in my 21st day of my 25 day trip in Thailand I had never seen such young and emaciated boys in the other go-go bars. I never had this kind of reaction. I tried to calm myself down with a stiff drink and watched the boys in their towels. There was only one boy I liked and I took an immediate liking to him – he was shy and dancing in the back row on the stage. He also had the longest towel on and was the oldest boy there and least emaciated – he had some meat on his bones. I asked the mamasaan if he could sit with me and he was SO happy to get off the stage. The mamasaan told me that his name is Khong and he is from Laos. Unfortunately he could not speak English so the lovely mamasaan was kind enough to sit with me when she could to help me to have a conversation with Khong. After a while the bar emptied out and I noticed an immediate transformation in the bar. The mamasaan asked me to move in the back row to be more comfortable with Khong and immediately I was much more relaxed. At this point it was only me with the boys. So, still being a little uncomfortable, I decided to have my second Anonone moment and I ordered drinks and a bottle of whiskey for everyone, including the mamasaan, the barker guy outside and even the person working in the back who was fully dressed but perhaps doing some bookkeeping. Most of the boys came off the stage (as I was the only customer) and they surrounded me and we drank together and they began to play a game of “Rock, Paper, Scissors” Thai style, where the loser had to drink a shot of whiskey. The guy with the name, “Boy” was losing the most and kept saying to me, “please drink for me” and I said NO – I need to perform tonight for Khong. Every once and a while a customer would come in and the boys had to stop partying with me and run back up on the stage until they were either offed or the customer left. These transformational moments were like scenes from “The Simpsons” – I truly had a blast once I got over my adverse reaction when I first arrived. Reflecting on why I had that reaction – I think it was because I had reached my limit on the youth thing in a go-go boy bar and I felt like I was in an orphanage and I wanted to save all of the boys from their fate. Alcohol, Khong, and the “Rock, Paper, Scissors” game with the boys got my mind off those bad thoughts that I had. Around 1am, I took Khong back to The Ambiance for a short off. I think that I paid, 800 to the mamasaan? Back at the hotel 27 year old Khong was great. I found out that he had only started at Vassa 2 days prior and that I was the first customer to off him. When we weren’t kissing and cuddling, we were using my iPad to communicate from Thai/Laos to English once we found the right digital keyboard. We had great sex and after a great shower together, I asked him to leave, as I don’t sleep well with someone that I do not know well. I gave him a 1,500 tip – as he was so much my type physically and sexually. Saturday 11 January – Went to Tukcom IT Center, Magnolia Spa, Walking Street and Sunee Plaza Tukcom is located at 8 Moo 10, Pattaya Tai (South Road) – which is a smaller version of the big electronics mall MBK in Bangkok. It is about a 15 to 20 minute leisurely walk from BoyzTown. As you may have remembered from my Koh Samui trip report, my smartphone fell in the salt water and I was desperate to buy a new Samsung Galaxy to replace the old one. I saw on the www.thaivisa.com forum that the Ice Mobile phone stall in TukCom came highly recommended. So I went right there and the guy was great as he took apart my old smart phone and showed me how the salt water had short circuited my old phone and corroded everything. We then decided on the Samsung Galaxy S4 (the old one was an S3) and the price was reasonable, 18,300 baht (407 euro) because back in Italy the same phone costs 499 euros. He installed everything and even cut to size the old Italian SIM from large to small and gave me a shell frame so that I can use the SIM on old model phones as well as the new small SIM models. He must have spent 2 hours with me – an excellent guy and service. It was too late to go to the beach at Jomtien, so I instead took a taxi to the Magnolia Spa. The manager sat with me in the lobby and I looked at a picture book and he indicated to me who was available and from the selection I chose Mo for a 90 minute 2 hand massage in their VIP room. Mo is a sexy masculine Cambodian masseur who is 25 years old. Mo gave me a nice strong and sensual massage for the first 55 minutes. Then for the remaining time he tried to get me off fast, but I slowed him down telling him that we had plenty of time and that there was no rush. I found out that he was rushing because he did not want me to fondle with him much and he made it clear that he did not want to get off. So, I made him edge me a couple of times and when the moment was right I let him bring me over the edge. He disappeared downstairs and I took a shower and cleaned myself up and headed back downstairs and paid the 850 to Magnolia and I gave Mo 1,000. He would have gotten more if he had not been so cold about letting me play with him. Perhaps he was straight or I was not his type ?? The Magnolia Spa is in a big 2 floor villa and the rooms are very big and nice and clean. I would definitely go back – but I would most likely avoid Mo – as I prefer my massage guys to be more into playing around once the serious part of the massage is finished. Took a taxi back to the hotel for a nap. Then later on I headed out to see the famous Pattaya “Walking Street” – the most intense and explicit Walking street that I have seen in ALL of my Thailand journey. Most of the many touri towns in Thailand have a Walking street. Pattaya’s is unique in that sex is thrown into your face. It is very exciting to walk around to see with your own eyes what women can do for entertainment. There is even Muay Thai boxing matches in public display. I found myself staring in too much amazement that one of the Muay boxers was yelling at me to come near the boxing ring from off the street – I was too shy – he was SO hot. I do not know what he wanted but it sure does make for some great mental fantasies when home alone in bed. I did not see any gay bars or go-go bars for us – as this would have sure been nice to be mixed in the middle of this intense sexual hotbed of activity. Took some photos of the famous illuminated Pattaya neon sign that reminds me of the Hollywood one in California. I tried to walk to Sunee Plaza from the Walking Street – but in my typical fashion I got lost – even with my smartphone GPS as I found myself in front of a big highway in front of a big hill. A mocy driver came to my rescue and took me there within 10 minutes. Sunee Plaza was SO different then BoyzTown – BoyzTown is loud and lively and full of lights – where I found Sunee quiet and sedate with not that many lights. It had the look of something fun and exciting left over from the 1970s – with that style of architecture. I was starving so I ate in a small Thai eatery where I was the only customer – but the husband and wife cooked for me a great PadThai meal. This place was interesting as it had a bed mattress with a tv in front of it and my table to eat was across from it. I imagined that this husband and wife most likely slept there once they shut down serving food and closed the place. Afterwards I walked around Sunee which is MUCH bigger than BoyzTown with many more places – except it was not so busy. I ended up in the “Nice Boys” go-go boy bar. The guys in this place are a bit rough and masculine. They reminded me of the guys from the Uniman Spa in Bangkok. They were doing their 2 feet lame shuffle but they were also doing that macho “I am a man” thing with each other trying to push each other down into the sheep position. It was entertaining. I asked the mamasaan to ask Tom (22 from Isaan) to come and sit with me. We had a drink and spoke for a while and I told him that I wanted to go back to the hotel with 2 guys. At first he got weird and said, “I man” and I replied that “I am also man”. He gave me a strange look and I said, chuck-wow – then he smiled – ok. So, I said help me find another man so we can make a chuck-wow party. He chose Boap – 21 from Chiang Mai. I bought Boap a drink and then the “boss” of the Nice Boys place walked in with some food and my two boys went crazy for some of it. Then I remembered what some of you said from this board – so I told the 2 guys – we go and get food before returning to my hotel. They became real happy. So, they put on their street clothes and we left after I paid the off-fees (400 each ?) and for the drinks. We walked back from Sunee Plaza to BoyzTown – it was not that far – once you know where you are going and they stopped in 7-Eleven – I offered something better – but they wanted 7-Eleven and they picked out all kinds of fast food and had them nuked in the microwave and put some toppings on them and started their eating frenzy. Back at the hotel, I ate 1 little hot dog with them to make them happy – I was not hungry but it was a good bonding experience before we started the chuck-wow party. They were shy to jerk off in front of each other so I put myself in-between them and I let them jerk me off – alternating of course as it was “too gay” for them to touch my cock at the same time – how hetero of them and I jerked them off. Tom came first then me and then Boap who had to finish himself off as he needed some straight porn in order for him to reach orgasm. Everyone satisfied, we took separate showers and then they left after I gave them 1,500 each – I know I spoiled them – but they were SO much fun – as I love to make hetero guys do gay things – it is a big turn on for me. Sunday 12 January – Went back to the Jotmein – Dongtan beach Every morning breakfast in the great Ambiance hotel restaurant out on the terrace watching the movement of boys leaving the various hotels from their long time offs and watching the massage boys from the Boyz Gym massage place. Being another nice day in paradise, I decided to go back to Dongtan beach. This time instead of taking the mocy for 100 baht, I took the Baht bus (‘ rot song taew ') to the beach – just a 5 minute walk to the nearest station on Pattaya Second Road from BoyzTown. The fare is very reasonable, just 10 baht. Went to the gay beach again and picked a seat in the front row closest to the water. At first, no open umbrella as the sun was not yet scorching. Took a nice iced coffee and relaxed and watched the nearby scenery. Like the other day, many Russian families interspersed with the gays. Many farang – Thai couples and some singles like me. Did some swimming and socialized with some of the nearby ex-pat farangs with my incessant questions about what it is like to live in LOS. Got lots of great ideas and met some people who live in the nearby View Talay Condo complex as they shared with me the interesting hurdles that us farangs must go through to “own” property in Thailand (basically you lease it until you die). They all seemed happy and did not have many regrets. Then there was a debate on whether to live the full 12 months in Thailand or to do the back-and-forth trip home (USA or Europe). Many of them could not stand the hot wet months (March through July) and evacuated Thailand. Something for me to think about as I had imagined to abandon Europe all together when I would retire to cut expenses. There is always mom back in New York, but 5 months with mom may make me crazy. So, I concluded that in the first year(s) I could rent to see where in Thailand I would want to call home. Perhaps it could be both Pattaya and Chiang Mai – going to Chiang Mai in the more intolerable Pattaya months?? Around 16:30 I called it quits and I went to explore the Jomtein Complex hoping to try the Derby massage place that Vinapu wrote about in his trip report. Unfortunately it was closed and many of the other places were empty. I stopped at Vinegar (www.swimwearthailand.com/catalog.php) to buy a new pair of swim trunks. It is a very nice gay store where they make the products right there in the shop. So, I then walked over to the Bamboo Bar (410/35 Thrappraya Rd at Beach Rd Jomtien), small host bar on main road to the beach, afternoon crowd, older guys on offer. Immediately the owner sent over a “boy” to sit with me and have a drink. I bought him a drink but he was not my type, as he was too feminine. We had a nice conversation about what it is like to work there. I saw some guests going upstairs and he explained to me that short term rooms could be had for some quick fun. I declined his offer and said that I had to go back to Pattaya. There were 1 or 2 guys who were my type but I did not know how to meet them as the owner was putting pressure on my boy to stay with me with his eagle stair on the boy. After my drink and the boys drink I excused myself and got on a Baht bus back to Pattaya – as the main Jomtien Baht bus stop is outside of the Bamboo Bar in the big plaza. Traffic was a nightmare – so after a while I jumped off the Baht Bus and paid the 10 baht and just walked the rest of the way back to BoyzTown. Took a nap and then walked over to Pattayaland Soi 1 to eat some good Italian food – Firecat had written about it and I was interested. Both the food and service was very good. Went over to check out A-Bomb – but when I opened the door to look inside, there were NO customers. I did the same at X-Boys and Wild West Boys – and there was not much going on to my liking – it must have been my timing. It was already 11;30pm. So, I headed to Boyz, Boyz, Boyz and it was packed and I saw the tail end of the prior show and I waited for the next show to start up. It was pretty much the same as the first night and the break-dance boys performed again – they are my favorite. They are VERY hot. I pushed my assigned bar boy to help me off one and we had to involve the manager for the night and he asked some of them but they ALL said NO. I had the feeling that they could be offed if they could be separated from each other – it’s that macho thing. The manager told me that they were “man” and I said, “no problem” – we could chuck-wow. He suggested that I follow the break-dance gang to Nab and/or Dave where they would make further performances and perhaps at the end of the night they would become offable. I declined his offer to spend my night chasing them – as I was already too tired. So, I asked my bar boy if he could push with the manager if the fire eating performer was offable – I had already been declined on the first night and the manager told me that he had to perform in other clubs and if I wanted him that I would have to follow him for the rest of the night. So I declined and just enjoyed the company around me – there was a girl from Laos sitting with 3 of her girl friends and she wanted to help me choose the guys up on the stage. Even one hot guy very hetero jumped down from the stage because he wanted to perform privately for the Laos girl. When she told him that we were shopping for me and not her – he ran back up on the stage. It was a LOT of fun. The Laos girl asked me to go dancing with them afterwards – but I declined. They left and my bar guy tried to get me to off him. He was very nice but after being rejected by the hip-hop rap dancers and then the fire-eater I was ready to call it a night. So, went back to my room in The Ambiance and checked out Jack’d and a hot guy from Singapore, Jay, text me to see if I wanted to play with him tomorrow. I said yes and then I wanked (fantasizing about the rap dancers and this new guy Jay) and then fell sleep. Monday 13 January – Jack’d visitor Jay, walking around Pattaya and last night at Vassa Ate breakfast and at 11am Jay (age 24) who was staying with a friend at the Baan Souy near Jomtien met me in front of the Boyz, Boyz, Boyz go-go bar and I found him hot and we went back to my room to have sex. We were VERY compatible and we had a great time. I had to slow down to not make him cum too fast as I am older and it took me a while to catch up to him and then we synchronized for a great intense mutual orgasm. Unfortunately, Jay was flying back to Singapore later in the late afternoon. He is ½ Chinese and ½ Malaysian and very sexy. He hunted me and our meeting was not about $money$ - it was great for my ego. In Thailand the majority of my encounters have been for $payment$ as I have been lazy to go through all the necessary motions to try to hunt my desired prey. For me, I like the payment idea because I can order what I want and state before anything happens what I want to do with the guy. It puts me in control and there is much less rejection. Hunting in the more traditional way is much harder because of my age and the fact that this way can deteriorate quickly when you start talking about the menu of activities. Since vacation time is precious, I prefer the payment mode – as it saves time and allows you to get what you want. However, with Jay – he was a surprise out of the blue and I really clicked with him. After we finished sex we took a shower and had a nice long walk on the beach road towards North Pattaya. It was great and very romantic. Then reality struck and he had to run off to go check out of his hotel and to run off to the airport in Bangkok for his flight back to Singapore. What is great about Jay, is that we are still in touch via Line – at least 3 to 4 times a week and it is now the first week of February 2014. Jay is going for his PhD and will soon interview at Yale back in the USA to be accepted into their program. Either way, he is a 6 hours’ time difference from me, whether he is in Singapore or New Haven, Connecticut. I became sad after Jay left, so I made a BIG walk around Pattaya observing all of the many sights. Ate dinner later in the evening and decided that my last night in Pattaya should be at Vassa – I wanted to see how Khong was doing to say good-bye to him. He was there when I walked in and there was a seat in the back of the bar ready for me. Everyone was SO happy to see me – especially Khong – I asked the happy mamasaan to bring Khong down from the stage to sit with me and we immediately got affectionate. There were not many customers so the other boys immediately came and sat with us and right away I had my 3rd Anonone moment and I bought everyone a drink and the famous bottle of whiskey and ice and coke. They started playing “Rock, Paper, Scissors” and dancing and being crazy. It was a LOT of fun and a great way to end my 25 days in Thailand. I was less weird this time in Vassa – however, I noticed that there was one very emaciated boy on the stage who was constantly shaking. I told the mamasaan to get him off the stage and to put a towel on him and to get him some food. They did all of this – of course I paid – and in this way I was more tranquil as I did not see anyone suffering. I could see that it was a VERY slow night so I gave the mamasaan 1,200 baht and told her to separate it into 100 baht each and to make sure that everyone got 100 baht each – even the barker outside and the boy shaking under the towel. I offed Khong for a long-off and promised the mamasaan that Khong would be back freed by me at 19:30 the next evening as that was when the taxi-van would come to bring me on the dreaded trip back to the BKK airport. I was watching the news everyday and for very selfish reasons I was secretly hoping that the protesters would close the airport – but it did not happen – so I had to come back down to reality. Once out of Vassa, I asked Khong if we could take a nice romantic walk on the Beach Road along the seaside. Of course he did not understand me – as he speaks almost 0 English – but I pulled his hand towards the beach and we walked along the water. Unfortunately, I wanted us to sit down – but there were too many rats climbing down from the trees and scurrying along the sand looking for food. So we moved off of the beach, as the rats ruined the romantic moment that I had in my head, and we walked along the Beach Road – but then the Lady Boys started getting aggressive with us and other potential customers nearby. So again, that romantic moment was ruined – so back to the hotel where we made some very passionate sex. This time I was VERY happy to sleep with Khong – because now I knew him and I knew that I would be able to sleep. We cuddled all the night and it was a great sleep. Tuesday 14 January – Last day in Pattaya, Jomtien-Dongtan beach, trip back to the BKK airport Woke up in the morning happy to see Khong next to me. I rumbled for an extra pair of swim trunks and I packed the backpack so after breakfast we could have a nice day at the Jomtien-Dongtan beach. We took 2 different mocys (no Baht Bus as this was my last day and I wanted to maximize it with quality time) and we met back at the beginning of the walkway to Dongtan. We went to the gay beach where the bar guys made a BIG fuss over us – as if we just got married – and put us in the 2nd to front row (Thais/Laos boys don’t like too much sun) with Khong’s umbrella up and mine down. Then we ordered our drinks and had our first swim together. It was great. Soon after Khong feel asleep and I took photos of my sleeping angel and went swimming while my 27 year old baby slept. The Russians were funny when we came out of the water later in the afternoon as we were being quite romantic. Who cares I thought – this is my last day in paradise and this is the gay beach. At the end of the afternoon I took Khong for the walk on the romantic sidewalk towards the end-point towards Pattaya and made him understand that I want to live in one of those lovely condos one day. Not sure if he understood but he was happy. Two mocys back to The Ambiance for our last shower together and last hours together. We made love again, for the last time and we cried knowing the end was near. At 7pm, we transferred the luggage downstairs to The Ambiance bar street-side terrace and for the last 30 minutes we cried like 2 lovers. I think the entire BoyzTown street knew – because when the taxi-van arrived I loaded the luggage and Khong kissed me and ran down the Soi and with a look of horror turned around to make his last look back at me in the taxi-van and I cried from Pattaya all the way to the BKK airport. It was so ugly and I did not want to remember his face like that. Taxi-van time was 1.5 hours from Pattaya back to the Suvarnabhumi Airport. There was NO traffic and no protesters to be seen. So, by 9pm I was in the airport ready for my 0:01 flight back to Rome. The airport was packed but I had plenty of time to check-in, clear security and immigration and to have a dinner and to buy a box of tissues for the 11 hour flight back to Rome. This concludes my wonderful 25 day trip in Thailand. I hope that it was not too boring of a read – but it felt so good to put all of these experiences and thoughts down in this blog. My hope is that some of my great experiences can also become yours – especially those who are new to this blog board. Post-factum – I can say that I am in regular contact via Line (the Asian answer to our Whatsapp) with both Jay and Khong. Khong has mentioned to me that he has left Vassa and is returning to his mother in Laos. But he told me that he will come back to Thailand to find some work in the future. So, maybe you will see him at Vassa one day. Treat him well – as he is a wonderful young man.