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it's exactly as you described, often they will arrive showered and still will shower with you. But it needs to be said that occasionally I had issue with sweaty guy who claimed he already showered and few overnighters , who went to the toilet to dump their load, returned to the bed after hosing themselves only , no shower and no hand washing either but that was rare and only done by guys who felt kind of domesticated i.e . if was not our first or even third meeting

no to mention most of them are avid stamp collectors , always keen on checking what others assembled

If you are in Thailand, don't waste your energy on comparisons to States , Latin America or wherever. Keep combing apps and hunt until you struck the gold. Tons of twinks remain available in massage places along Silom and Suriwong and , after dark also on bars in the area. Yes , look critically at your pics and wording in your profile ( u you may add " MB welcomed, I have place" ) but I doubt it's reason for your , so far , poor luck

Death blow to Sunee?

one of my forum friends suspected I got a stroke

one missed opportunity opens room for new one. Absence of one guy makes us paying attention to other options , previously not noticed or just overlooked

Day 3 Breakfast at Zing is in my opinion very good value at 189 baht for quite extensive selection. At the moment they have even promotion, if you buy 3 times , 4th is free. Track is kept on card they gave me when I bought 1st one. One of massage guys from Jomtien Complex I engaged few times in the past probably spied me on Grindr or passing by with my friend through the Complex yesterday because out of blue he sent me a message this morning so I invited him for 1 pm to come and check how he likes my room. We did not bother with massage and it was kind of kissy-huggy reunion. For dinner I decided to try recommended by few Sophia’s Kitchen opposite Dick’s in the Complex and indeed their chicken with cashews is one of best I had ever. Complex is busy preparing for Pride Night tonight with 2 stages set up so my hope is that famous Max will grace that night with his presence at The Best Bar. Early evening as arranged yesterday my guy from Dreamboys showed up and today’s session was even better and hotter than last night to a degree that I forced additional 1000 baht on him upon learning that tomorrow he is going home for a few days. Hope to see him again whenever I will be in Pattaya. I need to find a way of hosting him overnight, good sign was that today he did not say no when I revealed my plans about future. I liked he did not promise anything but said he feel more comfortable with me now and will think about that. Okey, okey Well after dark I went to Supertown filled with expectation that my Maxhunt will materialize. Lots of people everywhere and truly festive atmosphere. I parked myself at The Beast Bar but no, there was no Max in sight. I was watching shows produced by every bat on the stage in front of The Venue but Max was missing when his bar was presenting their part. Oh well, there’s always tomorrow, also day when he normally performs there. My beer was brought to my table by very manly faced Lao twink so after few sips I offered him a drink. By time I decided to call night off I consumed two and he 4 bottles of Chang. Not sure who first suggested we go home together but certainly we had the same in mind so of we went. While I was disappointed with Max absence , at least I satiated another curiosity. In @Home bar I noticed muscular guy I stalk on Grindr who advertises he likes kissing. Had I noticed him earlier I’d try to engage hi but now it was too late and may be it was good after all. While passing by I gave him red note to signal my interest and reaction was somewhat strange, instead of expected smile, wai and thank you I got kind of grimace one sees when somebody almost steps on dead rat or dog’s poo on the pavement. But no, he did not give me note back so not being sure what I’m supposed to think I just kept walking with my guy in tow. On our way we met aussie_ from forum celebrating night with his friends. To hotel we went in style – both of us on the same motorsai, clearly twinks have advantages of not taking so much space. By his own admission he started his work in the bar only few weeks before so lack of experience was visible but was offset by clear willingness to do the best o earn his tip. Me and twink and happy with him ! End must be near. It was already dawning when he asked for permission to go home which was granted . after he left I slept quite well till quarter to 11 am. I barely made to the breakfast but I did it !!

confirmed by my personal experience three weeks ago

all this information is already available on this board and you will have a lot of fun looking for it

that's novelty for me, I just used that lane 3 weeks ago using my grey hair advantage

first go to a church and pray that when you will be in Thailand he still will be on the scene. Some boys stay on and on, even well past 'best before ' date while others disappear as fast as they showed up. What I learned over the years is never expect guy I lose my sleep over to be available while I will be there, sometimes they are gone for good , sometimes they just happen to visit their mom when I'm in Bangkok, at other times still they are present but monopolized solid by temporary " boyfriend"

sure bet. I was thinking about next trip while in the taxi to the airport as I felt my vacation time this trip was bit of underutilized and that is reason for my reservation about this one.

indeed although it was kind of easy and we visited his bar three nights in row, each night took home respective companions and our rooms in The Classroom were adjacent

thank you , generous and kind but also calculated and self-serving as that way I secured boy I liked for all nights without off fees etc. Unfortunately it did not work quite as I envisioned.

+1, for two reasons, first they don't squander day hours on sleeping or watching idiocies on their smartphone, second they built up an opportunity for post go-go stage of their lives, even if that another job is in massage place . I have personal story to support what I just said - for about 10 years I was keeping part time job just for fun of it (yes when you young you may have fun working , lol). When I lost my full time position , my part time was easily converted to full time and kept me running till retirement at 68.5

nothing to spit on, it will buy you breakfast at Foodland

Others responded already but yes , I always carry cash and resort to ATM only if I'm running out of it. Cash gives slightly better rate and in can be exchanges as I need it in small 100-300 $ chunks while cash withdrawal from ATM makes only sense if 20000-25000 is taken out at one due to mentioned 220baht fee, not to mention my bank charges me 5$ foreign exchange fee as well and rate of exchange is bit worse. In short , as long as I'm concerned, cash is the king

Day 2 From today I’m on my original schedule and It was day of move to Pattaya. Hope was to catch a glimpse of half legendary dancer Max of The Best Bar who is supposed to perform there tomorrow and after tomorrow hence this part of trip I call Maxhunt. In the morning I messaged CB asking about absence last night. It turned out he was still at home but offered to come to Bangkok as soon as today if I let him to stay with me because he no longer has his room. I agreed but told him that I’m heading to Pattaya and advised him to come in 3 days. I had enough sense to secure some freedom and told him if I will bring another boy he must stay out of room for a period. He agreed and it looked we both are happy with that arrangement. I secured guy for Bangkok nights and was hoping that he utilize free accommodation to work at bar and get some more money during his 7 day visa validity. Breakfast at Foodland with reader from forum , we exchanged recent news and gossips , then I sorted my stuff in the room and left some goodies in deposit as I will be returning to the Raya. Then off to the airport to catch the bus. I had reservation made at home but low season showed, at 11.45 there were still tickets available for 12.00 noon. But bus departed full so I guess somebody got lucky at the last minute. Second time in row I opted to mid-way and stay in Zing hotel on main street , half way between Jomtien and Pattaya proper. What was even better , it was free as I had some miles expiring at end of month and decided to utilize them that way. Breakfast at 189 per person was to be paid separately. I dumped my stuff and went to Jomtien Complex to meet friend who used to post here as z909 few years ago, It was his last day so we talked about 1 hr and then parted ways. In the evening I went to Boyztown, first dinner in Bay View restaurant on Beach Rd then parked myself at Pikky over beer and watched goings in the soi. Sadly not much was going on. Only two freelance masseurs on duty, one of them I noticed gained some weight since I saw him last year. I saw boys from BBB going in but must say, only few impressed me to a degree. Mamasan Lek spotted me and beamed smile but this time I decided to continue boycott of that bar I once considered best in whole Thailand as 1050 off fee and stage filled with boys fully dressed coupled with smoking inside and deafening music is bot exactly what I like. At 10 p.m. I moved to Dreamboys , hoping at least one of two boys I met there last year will be there. And yes, sun shined on me, #37 was in the back of the stage . He was kind of confused at first why that old troll is smiling at him but after 5 seconds he beamed smile my way and I made gesture inviting him to sit beside. Not only he recalled me and hotel where we met 3 times but immediately asked ‘ where is your Asian friend in glasses “ ? clearly remembering I was with 18past19 then . Deal was sealed with disclaimer that I pick him up but after I see show in XBoys. Not sure who was first suggesting he may go with me to which I agreed and we crossed the soi and entered XBoys exactly in the moment of insertion in progressive part of 10 pm show. Speaking about timing ! We got seats in the first row in front on the scene and enjoyed what we saw. He told me he never saw that show and judging by his reactions he did not make it up. After main show finished with another progressive part included with the same bottom but different top, at midnight we took two motorsais and went to hotel to do our part of progressive life. Looking back , it was one of best moments of that trip. We agreed for repeat tomorrow after he finished his daytime job and before he will go to the bar.

since HE told me he will be working in the bar for a week from 14th on I took it for face value

not only in Thailand, happens everywhere. Dealing with similar cases in last 33 years of my working life before I retired, long ago I started saying to all who listen that wills should be mandatory for all after certain age, say 65 ( I get that in case above there was a will but obviously neglected to be updated ).

that may create problem for digitally excluded being on the road already. Where to print it in times when internet cafes are all extinct ? For some reason I can't access my e-mail on my Huawei tablet , it's why carry both that and smartphone but can see why some seniors are dropping travel altogether or taking organized trips only.

my first bar was Up To You where Take -a Nap hostel later was on Rama IV. I recall place fondly as mamasan seeing I'm new to the scene took charge , told me : ' take this boy, he will know where short rooms are " and it's how all started. Saying that I must say still I'm more interested in my next trip than 39 past ones.

my paternal grandmother saw hers when I was boy , almost everything was matching, first and last name, local cemetery and month and year of birth, only day was different but by few days only . According to popular superstition she was to live long life but she died at 76.

no,Body Club was in different location, it was Uniman in Korea Town

I even bothered to visit them in their new location far down the BTS line but was mildly impressed and never returned