by the way , how much famous buffalo costs ? asking out of curiosity as never ever I was asked to contribute to buy one.
I should count my blessings I guess, must be that cheap look of my face or something.
I agree with your assessment of Tball post, boys are making us happy and we should respond in kind
I found the original post intelligent, wry and entertaining. There is enough truth here to make this an appropriate stereotype for many Thai young men, but like all stereotypes, it is not true for all Thai boys. Even in the USA there are younger men who like older without money being the main rationale behind the attraction. Over the years I have met some of these couples and can say there is more then one reason for some younger men liking older. Thailand is no different, and while financial security may play a bigger role here, it is still not the only role, nor the only reason while some older men do find younger men who are really happy with the relationship and genuinely care for the older man.
Be kind to fellow posters, no need to like posts but no need to name calling them either.
I found OP pretty close to reality.
Once in the bed with boy exclaiming " I lub you" I pointed at his soft at the time dick and told him ' liar" - we both had a good laugh.
On another hand when in the middle of the night boy waked up, kissed me with " I like you" , turned back to his sleep in previous position I took it for a face value and rewarded him nicely with extra tip and quite a few off in the future even if I generally butterfly.
And this is right thing to do, after all we are removing them from line of work when they could land a contract.
I suspect quite a few encounters behind closed doors are finished without sex and embrace of warm body only is what lots of lonely people are content with.
IF the election were postponed, the registration for the Feb 2 election would be null and void (since a new Royal Decree would be issued), so candidates could then register countrywide. This would only make sense, obviously, if some kind of a compromise can be hammered out that would lead to the Democrat Party's participation; otherwise postponing would probably just lead to the same result later.
I don't agree that the Court's ruling isn't substantial. It clarified that neither the caretaker government nor the EC can be held responsible for violating the constitution if they agree to postpone the election, and that they share the responsibility to make that decision. That IS a significant clarification.
Indeed, pronouncing English/foreign terms the same as Thais pronounce them does help a lot. When in Rome...
It's often not much different in the US, by the way. I remember visiting Miami Beach many years ago, and the hotel I staid at was the Fontainebleau Hilton. Hailing a cab at the airport, I pronounced it like any educated member of society would do (French). Unfortunately, the cabbie would have none of it, and after quite some back and forth, he exclaimed "Fountain Blue!" and that was that. Not much different from some of my experiences in Bangkok in the early days.
Pronunciation can be a big issue as well, between Thai and farang. I once stayed at the Glitz Hotel in BKK. I took a cab from the airport. The driver had a hell of a time getting me to where I wanted to go. When we finally found the hotel, it dawned on me that Thainglish pronunciations are decidedly different, so I asked the desk clerk what the name of the hotel was and he said "Gleece." After that, I just told taxi and tuk tuk drivers I wanted to go to the Gleece hotel and there was never any hesitation. If you don't have the location printed in Thai, best to know how Thais pronounce the word, not how farang pronounce it.
Some old men never look at themselves critically. They believe in fairy tales and when the dream crashes back into
reality, they get cynical, call the Thai boys whores and make themselves feel superior and better .
The facts of life are ignored by the average farang.
Nobody would touch ancient morbidly obese hairy bodies or kiss an ugly wrinkled face without compensation.
Imaging its love is just desperation and deep denial. Believing teenage boys prefer 70 y.o. men is delusional
thinking and when the party's over, instead of being grateful for the idyllic episode, the reaction is bitterness and
anger.
When you believe in Santa Claus, there always comes a day when reality destroys the fairy tale and it's time to
grow up and be a man. Put the lights on and your tri-focals, strip naked and look hard into the full length mirror.
That should whip one back from love sickness into stark reality in a few seconds.
So yesterday I was over by Tuk Com (electronics mall). There are a number of massage shops in that area and although I am not a big fan of massages especially in poor quality rooms, I do like looking at the eye candy out front. The boys at these shops are usually my type (small twinks with out being Fem). I spotted one boy I found cute and was able to get his phone number.
These shops must get kick back from boys if they leave during business hours. Anyways I sent him a message this morning asking if he was awake and lucky me he was. 30 minutes later he was in my room and a very enjoyable time was had. Good in all phases of SEX. HeHe.
I think he has a profile on Gayromeo and I will post there when I find it
This I do not quite believe - if this is a case why you tormenting yourself living in Pattaya?.
You see this scene 8 days a week , 25 hours a day there.
What about not that skinny, grey haired with bald spot on the top of head , not yet retired, neither retarded, men with boy in mid-twenties? Just making sure I'd not disgust you.
My groin pull seems to be healing but I have limited my walking (which I need to do) and because of that have had a lot of time in the room. Jack'd definitely takes more time then Gayromeo. Messages go unanswered because from minute to minute they are not online and it also appears a higher % of the boys on Jack'd are looking for both other thais and people closer to their own age.
But there are still many on there looking for money . Some of them have real jobs and just make dates for some extra to go out or maybe even send to mama. Some of them are also on Gayromeo but many are not.. You may see someone on Jack'd and send a message and not get a reply for days until he might need money again or is Horny. hehehe.
Today I saw a boy on Jack'd that had a very explicit photo of himself riding his partner. Just what i need . Lay on my back and let boy climb on and do most of the work. Not actually my preferred position but protects the pain in my leg.
I sent him a message and told him I wanted him to do exactly what was in the photo. He replied quickly with when and where and 1000 baht. OK for You? naturally I said ok.
Turns out he works at ToyBoys and does have a Gayromeo profile but the photos are not so explicit. I had seen the gayromeo profile but never contacted him because the photos did not interest me. When I run across the ad again I will post a review in the GayRomeo Forum.
So thank goodness for Jack'd. Boy was a delight and matched the photo as promised although the guy on the Bottom in the photo was I believe much younger and better built then me. (Not Hard)
When finished I asked if I could take some photos and he loved it giving me far more explicit photos then the ones I post here. Safe to say there is not a shy bone in his body!!!
pretty common affliction, most famous directionally challenged person in history is Columbus, set-off for India, forgot his GPS and landed in Bahamas instead
When you take something that does not belong to you, you are a Thief. Really very simple. Makes no difference if some farangs are thieves , or some Thai boys are thieves. Having been with hundreds of boys over the last 15 years , there were many opportunities had the boys been thieves.
But all but 2 did not take whatever opportunity there was in front of them . The two that did are THIEVES. Plain and Simple
If they steal from one person then they may steal from the next customer and as such we need to do what we can to warn others!!
I happen to believe the overwhelming % of Thais are honest people. I have had small change and big bills returned from laundry a number of times. I have had people chase me down in the street because I left something at the table.
But that is why 2 were able to steal something substantial from me because I do believe in the honesty of the boys and am not always as careful as I should be.
Still 2 in hundreds over 15 years , I will not allow them to change my opinion of the boys I meet.
For day to day report of trip refer to my “Off to Thailand thread”
MASSAGES and MASSAGE PLACES
Biggest joy for me in Thailand. On vacations we should do what we do not do at home and for me among other things it means subjecting myself to massage mutilation.
Basically there are 3 kinds of them –oil, cream and Thai –this is dry massage and at times may be painful it’s why used word mutilation. If its too painful just say so to a boy and he will ease up.
If using oil or cream treatments keep in mind that you may get rash from time to time from exposure to fragrances you skin may not like
I indulged myself with 1-3 a day , visited 18 massage places in Bangkok for and 4 in Pattaya for a total of 22. It means 26 massages as at 3 places I had seconds with different boys / Arena, Bangkok Massage and Fan Club / and at Banana Club returned to the same masseur.
I do so many for 2 reasons – I see direct benefit to my body and feeling well factor and credit them for fact that in 2 weeks my longest stretch of sleep was no more than 3-4 hours and still at no time felt sleepy or yawning. Second or may be even first reason are after massage services and thrill of discovery of what happens and how .
And no , I’m not such a sex pig with enormous libido to overuse them , rather after massage I like prolonged body contact and mutual feeling with more than that at times. Always respect boys likes and don’t likes as some straights don’t do kisses or being tough too aggressively in the anal area . As with every encounter , if both sides are comfortable, things are nicer and smoother.
I like my boys on muscly side and it’s easier to find them in massage places for obvious reason although had couple surprisingly strong massages delivered by skinny twinks and cute boys.
Over the years I also found my offs more pleasant with massage rather go-go boys. Usually I go for long time off and feel that go-go’s are rushing things a bit . Likely reason is that bars are open longer hours so they can return and land chance of another trick while massage places are closed earlier like 10.30 p. m.-12.00 so for boys it like last minute overtime.
And so it was this time with 10 out 15 offs being massage boys. Not that all of those worked out very well but with new boys there’s always risk it will not and with previously known boredom factor sometimes kicks in / not this time though /.
Quality of massage places and number of boys available varies from place to place and as for boys even from hour to hour or day to day but on my pretty big statistic sample I need to say that all massages I received were very good to excellent with none of ‘ pat the cat ‘ quality.
Quality of massage has nothing to do with quality of venue itself , its just a boy’s skills and likely dose of chemistry between two of you. / Or three if you are taking 4 hands treatment /
I usually opt for longer 1.5 or 2 hours treatments if available to avoid rushing things and with view for some quiet or no so quiet time together after massage . In such a case you may watch the clock, either one on your hands or there’s usually one on the wall as sometimes your purchased time may be shortened. I do not think boys are trying to skip time , it rather comes naturally but if you pay for more time feel entitled to use it. Usually I tell them do not rush massage as we have that much time for disposal.
Extras were always offered, even if it did not look like throughout the course of massage - this coveted moment always arrived. Sometimes question was asked or sign-showed explicitly , sometimes it started as apparently random tough of your nether area, your wandering hands were not pushed away at certain moment, your foot was strategically placed where you could feel his pubes or you felt something hard pressing your behind somewhere, but it always arrived.
Even if you did not shower together, boy was completely dressed during massage or positioned himself that you couldn’t tough him moment of indication always came. Now you know what I mean by the thrill of discovery. And you go from there depending of what is on offer and how you feel.
Cost of massage varies usually with quality of place and kind of massage , it may start with 200-250 for 1 hour Thai to as much as 1000 for oil or cream at SENSO. Longer session obviously cost more but increase is not always linear and extra 200 -300 may buy you twice as much time.
As for tips , minimum tip is usually indicated on the menu, again sometimes it’s the same for shorter and longer courses , sometimes more it requested for longer sessions. If boy at regular places offers possibilities of extras he will indicate how much he expects or if you will be instigator, he will ask how much you will give him.
If no extras were offered /requested I tip boy cost of massage, if he will became available for additional activities I tip either agreed amount if discussed or at least minimum tip but no less than 1000 per 1 hr. session even if minimum tip is less than that. For longer sessions I will add up to a minimum depending on length, performance and original minimum tip and often it becomes 1500-2000.
Mamasans if they did not help me , just facilitate administration, tip nothing, if they were helpful 50-100 baht. At few places when mamasan was handsome muscly man I tipped them 100 and in exchange requested a big hug –always a case at Bangkok Massage in Soi Twilight where both of them are type just described.
Below is description of BKK places I visited:
Sukhumvit area:
Guy Spa, soi 19, ASOK BTS station, easy walk
Located in short sub-soi, no boys outside, pretty nice selection of handsome masseurs with more than dozen boys available, mostly manly types. Took 4 hands massage. Shower in the room, before massage shower alone, after with both of them, both masseurs undressed for most of session. Great session, fun.
Uniman Spa – Korean Town, 4 th floor , soi 12, ASOK BTS, opposite side of Sukhumvit than other three described, no boys outside, at least dozen available inside, mostly manly types. Shower inside room, shower alone before massage , together after. Boy undressed very fast. Great session, my mistake I went there only my last day.
Hero – end of soi 11, sign outside , no idea why some people are reporting place is hard to find. Easy walk from Nana BTS or take motorsai for a hop.
King of massage places in opinion of many, I second it. No boys on street, some in the garden inside compound, lots of muscly boys behind the glass wall, abundance of choice, helpful mamasan, no pressure to choose.
Small restaurant inside with view of glassed boys area. Lots of other customers , at times you may wait for room available. Treated myself to a VIP room at 1500 for 2 hour session, looks like hotel room with normal bed. Shower inside, boy undressed and hard from beginning, showered together before and after massage. Great place and session. A must visit place.
Banana Club –soi 11 as well , underrated place, deserves better publicity. Boys apparently all gay.
No boys outside, big lobby so boys are at distance. Owner very helpful and I liked his attitude when he mentioned why minimum tip increases with length of session – to be fair to everybody. Less expensive than Hero. Went twice , first time only few boys on duty, second time more than dozen. Locker and shower outside the room, showered together before and after. Boy undressed all the time. One of three best massages on this trip, only one when went back to see the same boy. Became big fan of the place.
Malaysia Hotel area:
Magic Hands on Soi Ngham Duplee / there’s another unit closer to Malaysia Hotel as well on side street/
Few boys outside, good mix of twinky and manly types, more inside. Shower outside the room, showered alone before massage , together after. Big massage room with raised massage bed and mattress on the floor beside, very handy for after activities, well used by us. Not a fancy place but very good , no rush session. Boy undressed gradually during session which again I consider one of three best on this trip.
Sawatedee Spa, City Court complex across the Rama 4 str
eet from Soi Ngham Duplee, easy walking distance from Lumpinee and Malaysia Hotels a little hard to find-see my Off to Thailand post how to get there.
Was there early , it appeared only 1 boy was available assigned to me. No boys outside. Shower inside the room, showered alone before and after, boy dressed fully and it was serious massage session I lost every hope for extra action but lose hope not! After session offer come along with possibility of getting closer and get more intimate feeling of masseur power. All good then.
Sathorn area:
Aqua Spa – soi Pikun, little hard to find but really walking distance from Chong Nonsi BTS. Big place, no boys outside , only few inside but possibly more is available according to another report. Locker and shower outside the room, shower alone before , together after. Boy undressed gradually during session. Great massage and enjoyable afters.
Arena – short walking distance from Chong Nonsi, on the corner of Silom and Narathiwas, on 3 rd floor.
Always few boys outside and more inside , mostly muscly types. Usually first place I visit in BKK in tribute of now closed HIS massage in the same building which was my first place on my first manscapade in LOS. Went twice , on second visit much more boys than on first one. Shower inside of room, both boys undressed during massage , showered together before and after. Boys undressed during massage.
Advertising low minimum tip of 500 which includes shower, massage and hand job according to the website. You want more it’ll be more. One of my regulars hails from there so I’m not concerned with selection but they have several types to choose. Both boys offed long time / one , my regular, twice / and on two occasions when I had massage there during day Arena did not charge me any off fee for taking boy out. Nice and generous. I have always good experience there although one of the offs requested pretty steep tip after long time, idea of 5000 dismissed and sent home with 3000, did not seem happy and I’m still perplexed where such amount came from.
Senso - soi Sala Daeng, short walk down the soi from namesake BTS station. No boys outside, when there 6 boys available, all grade A +++ muscular types. Lobby pretty small, so boys may be to close for comfort to some. Most expensive but also most classy place. 1 hr massage 990, room like hotel room with all bells and whistles, started showering alone but boy joined me before I was finished, Showered together after session. Undressed early d uring massage . Good massage and lots of fun. Left place smiling.
Adonis – soi Convent , closer to Sathorn end of soi.
No boys outside, several boys available , good mix of types from twinks to very manly. Somehow I don’t recall shower arrangement but boy was a gem and I arranged for long time off in advance. Great massage session. For off fee was collected before we left place and included boy’s tip which was paid to him by manager right away. I like it as it protects interests of boy in case client will be tempted to screw things up. Along with Banana this is underrated place IMO.
Fan Club - soi Convent, closer to Silom end of soi
Big place , few boys outside and many more inside, always good selection. Was there twice, both muscular types but they have good mix. Nicely appointed, big room, shower inside, showered together before and after and boys undressed for massage.
Silom places:
There are many of them on both sides of Silom, usually with few cute boys handing leflets outside so decided to try two :
Relax Massage – in Silom 64 building on Patpong side of Silom.
Apparently straight place but boy was very nice , decided to be adventurous. From street level we went to place on 3 rd floor, showered alone of course, when in cubicle behind the courtain invited to lower by underwear . Massage was surprisingly good since it was delivered by pretty twinky boy whose fingers wandered randomly here and there at times. In deep conspiracy whispering he offered more than massage for tip of 1000, gladly accepted just for fun. Delivered nicely. Showered alone after of course. I liked massage and adventure so few days later decided to repeat and try
Playboy Massage – on opposite side of Silom. Almost the same , lonely shower, good, regular massage, wandering hands his and mine and proposal in conspiracy. Lots of fun in hands of warm twink. As a bonus learned that next door is Internet café. Lots of fun for me and a boy.
Next door to Tawan bar there’s :
SUN Massage, few boys are sitting outside with more inside. Website shows few nicely appointed rooms but for my 1 hour massage after lonely shower I was placed in rather dingy cubicle where boy delivered very good massage , one of three best I had on this trip.
He worked so fast I was under impression he has 3 if not 4 hands. Boy was fully dressed but after few misplaced strokes extra proposal arrived followed by quotation and acceptance from my side. Full dress became no dress and fun ensured. A little mechanical but still fun. Shower together after.
Soi Twilight:
Bangkok Massage – always several boys sitting outside, in May I had boy assigned from rotation now it looks you have your pick. One of my regulars works there / the same I got assigned / so I dropped by for a chat daily , offed him 2 times long time , on my first night short time massage in my room, on last day got massaged by him at their place. So one may say I’m biased. Had massage with another boy as well. Very beautiful Thai décor inside. Most boys on muscular side, shower outside cubicle , showered together before and after . Minimum tip = cost of massage, extras always offered and massages very good, never feel rushed there.
Bonny - few steps down the soi, beside Dick’s café.
Similar format and pricing to Bangkok Massage and similar type of boys. One of them was eye hunting me when I was dining at Dicks so we arranged for a massage , converted later to expected long time off , for some reason boy changed availability , informed me up front and reduced his price to short time rate - fair conduct.
X-Size Massage - across the soi from Bonny, mostly twinkly boys so not my type, decided to give them a chance though and diminutive Cambodian delivered surprisingly strong massage on the big bed, shower in the room and showered together before and after. Only place where on the menu I noticed explicitly ‘sex massage ‘ whatever it means, price was 1000 if recall. Masage there wouuld be another great experience but it was me who failed as twinks are not my thing and its hard to enjoy things we don’t.
BBB Inn, around the corner from the soi, massage boys available 7/24, many types , at times slightly pushy for a deal if you are resident but it’s good humored push. You can take a massage in your room and receive 20% discount or in their rooms if you are just dropping by. Bit more expensive than places in the soi with 1 hr massage at 600 and minimum tip 1000 but if you are resident turns to be cheap. Great if you feel bored during day, just go down and you have company. The same if you wake up scared in middle of the night, there’s always consolator who will chase ghosts away. Great if your off did not work out for some reason or can’t stay as long as you’d wish, walk him down and grab next one from lobby.
Had one massage on this trip only, more for company than for massage as with 5 night spent there I feel obligated to buy at least one massage for in-house boys. / In May I had 3 in house massage there/. But he delivered his part satisfactory reminded at times that he should pretend that carcass massaged is more important than TV in the room. Learned too late that provider of one of three best massages is moonlighting there at night after his place is closed so missed an opportunity to host him in my room for long-time and there was right chemistry too.
In PATTAYA during my 2 days I visited 4 places:
Magnolia –absolute queen of places there very classy place , massage room like higher end hotel room with massage table and king sized bed. No boys outside, you are shown on the tablet of who is available at the moment. Big bathroom , showered alone before and together after. Very good massage for most part of which boy was dressed and positioned himself in such a way it was hard to tough him so I thought it will be just a massage but at end hope was restored.
Work first, pleasure after was boy’s motto. Second part started with question ‘did you like my massage” and long answer followed , at end an appointment was booked for a supper, breakfast and in between at my hotel. Night part was not that great but this is not story for this massage thread – 100 % satisfaction here .
High class and prices are very reasonable – 1.1/2 hr massage in VIP room 900. It’s quite a distance from Boyztown, almost s at Sukhumvit, walked 20 minutes but you can call and they will pick you up or jump on baht bus. Since I walked to them , after massage boss himself dropped me at Tukcom in his truck. First class service there never stops
Derby at Jomtien complex,
Boys are sitting outside so you see who is available, big place, locker , shower outside of room. Showered alone befor , together after. Boy undressed from the start and , best body of them all I met this trip, it was like hugging an Olympian ! Not expensive and great experience there.
In Boyztown itself there are few places but I used two:
Former Scandic Massage now BoyClub, beside Toy Boys. Mostly manly boys outside, spied one very muscly man boy. Massage fee and minimum tip collected up front –sign that they may have troubles with non-paying clients. Shower outside room, showered separately, massage great and using different technique but boy had underwear on till end of massage. Impressed with massage , body and undies content arranged to long-time off, turned not that great but again massage part was excellent.
Copa - they always have friendly boys looking for business outside, on arrival one even greeted me with “come to us , sexy men here” sporting nice bulge in his jeans but on day of my departure in the morning only 1 boy was available, again on twinkly side but I needed god bye Pattaya massage so went for it. Massage rooms are in hotel part sharing the same corridor, shower inside room, showered together before and after, boy undressed and surprisingly strong massage delivered by a twink. So left PTY happy thank to him.
Ratings - 3 best:
best facilities: Magnolia, Senso, FanClub
Best décor: Bangkok Massage, Magnolia, Senso
Best massage: Banana, Sun, Magic Hands
Most fun : Guy Spa, Senso, Magic Hands
Best chemistry: Banana, Adonis, Bangkok Massage
Best choice of boys: Hero, Fan Club, Adonis
Most smiling boys : Guy Spa, Hero, Uniman
Best thrill: Relax, Playboys, Sawatdee Spa
Best access from BTS : Playboys, Relax, Uniman, Arena / all under 3 minutes /
Most boys on display outside: Bangkok Massage, Bonny, Boy Club./Scandic /
Friendliest service : Arena, Magnolia, Bangkok Massage
If you have only time or money to visit three: Banana, Hero , Adonis
First three I likely visit next time: BBB Inn, Arena ,Bangkok Massage
Three to avoid : none , none , none
THINKS I REGRET
There are always thinks we missed or did not do and regret later on. Here’s my list:
-went to Uniman too late missing possible great long-time off
-made 2nd visit to Banana to see boy again on the last day instead earlier missing , missing , missing him
- did not explore contents of bulge of Copa sexy man
-did not stay in Pattaya longer missing most of bars , their shows and boys as well as night stroll through the Walking Street.
-missed again SENSO spa in Thonburi but at least I know now where it is
- did not have a chance to off Yo #76 from Dreamboys once more/ he left for few weeks
-did not off boy from Tawan
-missed Super A and Nature Boy
- did not have a chance to share beer with resident or visiting members of this forum.
-did not made second visit to HERO
-did not off one handsome street trader on Suriwong
-did not spent any time with one of hosts in Soi Twilight host bars
Not all offs were good but I chalked everything off to an experience so none is on the list above.
SIGNS THAT OFF WILL NOT WORK OUT
We tend to look through rosy glasses when marching with offed boy but I noticed few early warning signals which may indicate disappointment cooking :
-boy tells you uninvited what he wants / to see this show, to eat there, to go for drink, to tip this waiter to sit at this table…., you get the drift/ Only exception I’d allow is if you want to walk and he prefers taxi as he may not want to be seen marching with farang.
- at room he is turning TV not even looking for your approval or is checking his messages on the smartphone or ultimate sign he needs to call somebody urgently-
-delays undressing part, tells you he is shy to shower together or wants to sleep in his underwear even if he lets you freely to explore it contents.
-tells you what side of bed he wants before you even ask him
Those were my experiences so be warned
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