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    Manly69 reacted to joizy in My First Time in Bangkok - November 2023 Trip Report   
    Exhausting. One of the best trip reports I've seen on this forum and they are still arguing over such stupid shit. It's ridiculous.
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    Manly69 reacted to Marc in Calif in My First Time in Bangkok - November 2023 Trip Report   
    One's post from beginning to end was bitchy. And one did indeed end it "with a genuinely bitchy remark."
    Was that a lame attempt at sarcasm? It landed l like a turd. 💩
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    Manly69 reacted to caeron in Will you travel to Brazil?   
    I'm not going anywhere until its safe, except local stuff that I can stay socially distanced the whole journey and at the destination. The guys, by definition, are getting very intimate with lots of people repeatedly. That doesn't strike me as someone I want to get close to. The reality of it would probably be a major boner killer for me.
    Perhaps I carry too many memories of the worst of the AIDS holocaust. 
    Porn it is, for now.
     
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    Manly69 reacted to numazu in The Reopening of Brazil to Foreigners: some observations   
    The Assembly line of fucks
    I got another opportunity to check out Espaco Lagoa before heading to southern Brazil with the BF. It was a somewhat chilly day in Sao Paulo, but I was lucky to have skipped the cold temps that visited the city days before. Still, it was still cool weather, so I decided to visit the Frei Caneca shopping mall to have a cup of coffee.
    The good thing about the Frei Caneca shopping mall is that it is pretty close to Espaco Lagoa. There is probably a reason for the closeness.  The walk from the mall to the sauna, you will encounter the unofficial gay street of Rua Frei Caneca, the gay hotel, and other gay locations. So its always an interesting time to see the patrons of this mall. You will see various gay people loitering, checking each other out. No surprise that when I open Grindr, it lit up like a Christmas tree with hits. I settled with my cup of coffee, subtly checking out a guy across from me, who I saw on Grindr (51 feet away!) while enjoying my cup of coffee:

    After my coffee, I let @floridarob know that I was going to the sauna. It was almost 6 PM, so I would think it was prime time to wrap it up and head to Lagoa. At the sauna, I see @floridarob already seated and enjoying his drinks. I get another cup of coffee, and I remarked that this was the 3rd continent that I’ve seen him in. After some gossip, and acknowledging what big world-traveling sluts we both were, I start my hunt in earnest.
    It was pretty busy in the main bar area. The public showers were opened up and all the tables were occupied. It was Sunday, karaoke night, so it was hard to have a decent conversation from all the loud singing, unless if you were up close and personal with the person you were talking to. So I had to leave the area if I was going to catch anything I wanted. At first, I was not finding anything, or I was hesitant in approaching with all the activity in the bar.
    Programa #1: The Wily Veteran
    But in the corner of my eye, by the entrance near the stage, was an interesting blonde and blue eyed guy, as white as can be, that stood out from everyone. No one was in towels (COVID), but he went one better: he was wearing a nice shirt and pants. I quickly excuse myself and chase after the guy. I go to the hallway to assess his hotness. Paulistano. 26 years old. He took off his mask while he was talking, which helped because it sealed the deal. He looked more German than Brazilian, but his Paulista accent gave him away.
    We get a suite (always) and got to our room. Wow, this place is so clean and more put together than Point 202. It is not hard to do. And they had towels and flip flops carefully packed in plastic for use. So hygienic. He quickly disrobes and plops himself on the bed. I join him clothed, and he quickly disrobes me. With me naked, he tells me “much better,” and gives me a kiss. That was when I realized that I forgot to ask him the requisite questions: does he kiss? Top or bottom? How much?
    That never happens to me, I usually do my due diligence before commiting, but no time like the present to ask. I know he does kiss, he says he is versatile, and the usual 150 for the programa, or 200 with cum. He delivered in all respects. Fairly passionate, and had an amazing ass. I had him pose for me, squatting with his ass in the air. Perfect. I’m not a super top, but this guy did it for me in the moment. The pale, smooth skin helped, and it came with a smooth ass. He sat on me, and I came really quickly. It took a while for him to cum tho, as he said it was hard to cum after getting fucked.
    Afterwards we talked for a bit. He has been doing sauna work for a while, and even did a stint in European saunas. Took a break and was back in the business. Saving up money for a trip back to Europe, when it opens up, and beefing up in the process for more exacting European clientele. He certainly knows what he’s got. No doubt he earns a lot of money.
    I don’t know how long I was away, but going back to @floridarob, it seemed like an eternity. He told me I act fast, just disappearing and doing the programa. “I know what I like and I go for it,” I say. I get a cocktail.
    I think I was seated in the perfect spot in the bar area at Espaco Lagoa. We were seated close to the door, and my seat was angled such that I was facing the door and can see who came and went, while having a view of the stage. Understandably I would miss some of the public shower guys who would entice customers with their third legs, but until I grow a third eye in the back of my head, I’d choose to be facing where the guys came and went.
    Programa #2: The Casual Passers-by
    The current location of Espaco Lagoa is both a blessing and a curse. It is so much more central, located in the Frei Caneca, and close enough to Paulista and Bela Vista. The bad thing about it is, any casual guy can just stop by and try to sell their wares. In the old location, it was more or less more residential, and you actually had to want to be there in order to be at the sauna, and not just casually drop by on the way somewhere else. So I find that there are more casual GPs than the usual, career quality GPs, in this location, that in the old location.
    I noticed a fresh batch of guys come in, milling about. They were just in the periphery and not going in the main area. They were fully dressed, like everyone, but not smartly as to accentuate any of their body parts, like the career GPs. They probably just wandered off from the street over to see if they can score a few reais. Two of them were nice looking. The shorter one was more muscular, was looking more like a brute, and his biceps were bulging out of his shirt. The taller one was tall indeed, more lanky, but had a very pretty face. I’ve never seen them before. Probably their first time here.
    After trading more gossip with @floridarob, I see the shorter one making eyes with me. I made eyes back. He took off his mask and smiled at me. I looked at his friend and his friend was being felt up by another customer. A few more minutes roll by, and the guy kept making eyes, but would never approach or even enter the bar area. After finishing my drink, I make a decision, and tell @floridarob I will be back. I lock eyes on the shorter one, and we congregate in the hall. I motion to the taller one to also come so I can inspect both. After introductions, the shorter one was trying to sell himself, with descriptions of what we would do together and such. The taller one was way more shy, just standing there. He was gorgeous tho, brown hair and green eyes. Such a killer combo.
    I ask them if they were friends and went here together. They both said yes. I asked them how much. 150 for each. I ask them what they did. Only tops but passionate. I can work with that. I told them I want to get a room. The shorter one asks: “which one?” I tell them, both of you, of course. The taller one smiles, as if to say: “really?” Is that OK? The shorter one says, “of course!” So we get a suite and the two tail me as I lock the door behind me.
    We started with just standing there. Obviously this was a bit manufactured, nothing organic about it. I started to break the ice by asking a few questions. They’ve been friends for a long time. It was the taller guy’s first time here, and didn’t really know what to do here. It was the shorter one’s second time, and I was his second customer as well. The taller one was nervous, maybe unsure he wanted to do it. I ask if they have seen each other naked before. “Not totally,” the shorter one answers. I laugh. Everyone laughs.
    “So what will we do now?” I ask. The shorter one takes command, and asks the taller one to undress. He takes off his shirt. The shorter one unbuttons the taller one’s pants. His briefs appear through his opened zipper. I take it further by pulling down his pants. He is just in his underwear. The shorter one disrobes to his briefs as well. I do as well. And then the shorter instructs the other to start kissing me. After some hesitation, he does. I take a hand to his groin. Big boy. He make it grow. We were off to the races. The shorter one turned to be fairly dominant, and the taller one passionate. It worked out, somehow weirdly. Both came on my chest, while towering over me on the bed.
    It was somewhat an awkward encounter. It’s kind of what you expect from just casual passers-by I guess.
    Programa #3: The Reason Why I’m Here
    Getting back to @floridarob, I realized that I’ve already came with three different people in a span of 1.5 hours, and floridarob was just getting started. I guess my speed is really fast. We both notice a nice looking moreno in the public shower, and he had the perfect pair of (1) giant cock and (2) nice round ass. @floridarobnoticed him too and commented on him being nice looking.  When the toweled off and got out of the shower, I quickly motion to him to sit down with us so at least @floridarob had some company.
    All three of us soon got to laughing and joking, mostly about how much of a slut I was. Fair enough. I see someone in the corner of my eye again. Uh oh. He was a beautiful moreno. Nice facial hair. Prerry face. Wearing a tight t-shirt and tight jeans. He filled those nicely. There was something about him that just draws one to him. Something magnetic. Of course I acted fast, as I do. I bid both goodbye for now and headed for him.
    When we were in the hallway, he takes of his mask and smiles this million watt smile. He introduces himself. A Carioca, of course. I journey all this way to Sao Paulo to be hooked by another Carioca. He talks to me in a whisper, and he draws me close so he can hear me. I press my hands on his shoulders, and his back. Big broad shoulders, hard sinewy back. We settle on 150, or 200 if he cums. I couldn’t say no. I was impressed by how he carried himself.
    In the room we both sit on the bed and he takes my hand and caresses it. We talk for a minute. His deep voice was soothing. He takes off his clothes, even underwear. He wanted me to see. Big thighs, big plump ass, and of course, hung like no other. He kisses me deeply. And soon I was naked myself. Damn, this was a good start.
    After some hot foreplay he asks me what I liked. I said since he was just a top, that I couldn’t take his length and girth, since he was pretty big. He said fine, and we did more foreplay. After getting hot and heavy and him rimming me, he takes the condom and lube and started to sheath himself. I laughed. I reminded him that I didn’t want to take him. He said he understood, but he was just going to “show me something.” Fine. What could happen, right? We did more foreplay. He got me really warmed up. And then he started to put it in. Slow. While working on me. Got me relaxed. Put it in more. More working on me. I got even more relaxed. Until he was all in. Until he was able to get a rhythm in. Until he pulled out and fed me his cock to explode in my mouth.
    Well that was amazing and unexpected, and simply mesmerizing. When you hire someone, they will do what you tell them to do, since you are paying and you callall the shots. It’s something else when you pay someone to do what you want, but they know what you actually want more than you did. I am rarely surprised anymore in these situations, sadly, but this programa was indeed a surprise. We shower together. We get dressed.
    Before we left, I tell him that he had something unique, something that was hard to come by in the sauna, and he had something that just can’t be replicated anywhere. He smiles that million watt smile again, and told me he has heard this from others before. I give him my phone, to get his Whatsapp. I’ve met 4 guys in the sauna today, and this was the first guy I wanted to get a second meeting.
    I emerge from the programa. I tell @floridarobI had to run, as the BF was awake and waiting for me. Not bad for a 3 hour stay in Espaco Lagoa.
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    Manly69 reacted to numazu in The Reopening of Brazil to Foreigners: some observations   
    Rio Inside Part 2
    Day 2: A night with Instagram boys
    The majority of the people I follow on my Instagram are Brazilians, and almost all are super hot and sexy Brazilian thirst traps that are nice to look at for sure. Some of the boys I follow are GPs and/or pornstars that are known to be for hire, but probably 98% of the guys I follow run the gamut of gym trainers to TV actors to just regular guys. I always wonder about this other, non-GP 98%, if some of them are for hire, since this is Brazil. While I am sure some of them are, I wonder if messaging some of them to make an indecent proposal is appropriate.  In the end, I err on the side of being respectful and not message them if they don’t seem like to be for hire, like these guys:

    Sometimes tho, you get confirmation in real life.
    Last year, when I was in the beaches in the southern part of Sao Paulo state, my friends and I hung out in one of the more popular beach quiosques in Santos/Sao Vicente. It was a warm summer night, and the place was hopping with people drinking/swimming/dancing and having general merriment. One of my best friends, a super sociable Paulistano who knew all too well my obsession with beautiful Brazilian boys, introduced me to this absolutely stunner of a Carioca. He was 20 at that time, super tan, and like many others during the summer, had his hair bleached blonde for the season. After I picked up my jaw off the floor, I got to talking to this young lad, and got utterly charmed. All the while I was talking to him, I always thought he looked familiar but couldn’t place why I think I knew him.
    We got a conversation going, with me nursing my 3rd caipirinhna, and him chugging a gin cocktail. He seemed to have a lot of questions about the USA in general, and other things about my life, and he was super accommodating with my queries about his life. Currently, he was a soccer player for a Series B or C soccer club in Rio, and that explained why he had an athletic frame. He had a lean muscular frame, as I could see with him shirtless, and his cum gutters were on display, and I could also see his big soccer playing thighs escaping out of his trendy shorts. But it was his face: handsome, young, and with a boyish quality that is hard to find, that stood him apart for me.
    After a while he bid me farewell to join his other friends who were leaving, but not without asking me for my Whatsapp. Later that night he sent me a message saying that he wanted me to have his contact too, and sent over a link to his Instagram page. It just so happens that I was already following him on Instragram, and that’s why he looked familiar to me. He had more than 200k followers, which usually meant that he was pretty and the lots of the followers were there to gawk at his beauty.  Over the ensuing months, we would talk once in a while, but again, out of respect, I did not ask if he was available to be hired, and let the friendship just as it was, and that was good enough for me.
    Fast forward to early March of this year, and the BF and I were having a farewell dinner during my Carnaval trip, with music and drinks at the quioque Xodozin: 

    I posted a photo of drinks to my Whatsapp status. After 5 minutes, I get a reply to my post:

    He also sent a photo of him with his main friend, also a very young, pretty and fit Carioca. It was a photo of both shirtless during the celebration of Carnaval, looking very very yummy. After a few replies through dinner, I told him that I could not invite them over to drinks because I was with my BF, but we could set a date to meet in my next trip. I then asked the question about the possibility having a little fun with them, since they would not send me that photo if not to entice me to ask.
    He admitted that programas was not something he did, but thought he’d try to at least meet again me since it seemed like a good guy and “normal”, whatever that means. He said he was only a top, but his friend could do it all, so he said we could all have a good time, trying it all, over drinks. I tell him that I could meet them in my next trip in late March, and I promised him the night of drinks and frolic he was asking. He also sent me the Instragram page of his friend. Another Instagram boy with 200k followers.
    Then COVID happened of course, so my next trip was just with the BF in quarantine. I had to tell the Carioca that I could not meet, which he was OK with. Over the next four months, we would still talk, and his posts on Instagram noticeably slowed down, probably because of COVID isolation. When the country reopened, I let him know that I was going to be in Rio and will try to get some alone time. He told me that I still owed him a night of drinking, and that he was still game to meet.  He admitted that money has been tough due to the pandemic and he actually will need the money I was offering him. We settle on 400 for each guy for an overnight, which to me seemed low, considering the quality I was getting and the strength of the dollar.
    After a nice nap till the afternoon (I needed it after the Grindr exertions), I prepared the apartment for the two Cariocas to invade my apartment. In turn, hottie guy was sending me photos of his prep as well, including photos of him shaving his body. I told him he didn’t have to do that, but he told me he wanted to look good for me. When they were ready, I called them an Uber from Barra de Tijuca. I met them at the lobby of the apartment, and we all walked to the nearest Rio Sul grocery store to get $35 worth of alcohol and food:

    What followed was a chill and relaxing evening. The alcohol of choice was gin, with red bulls and tonic. With Portuguese language music in the background, and some lively and sometimes fairly intense heart-to-hearts about life in Rio, and the difficulties of being unemployed during the pandemic, I got something better than just physical release: a genuine connection. Sure, I got physical release as well, that was the draw, but nothing is better than doing it with guys you have connected with. And indeed, after all the merriment, we retired to the bedroom, and they were pretty generous with sharing their bodies with me.
    They stayed till noon the next day. $150 on these two seemed cheap.
    Day 3: Pointing fingers
    It was my last day of solitude in Rio, so a trip to Point 202, the only sauna that was open in Rio, was I order. I get there at around 6 PM, and in this Saturday night, there were more customers and boys present than last week. Since it was cold, I ordered a coffee to wake me up. Unfortunately, they didn’t have coffee in the menu, which to me seemed odd. One of the bartenders however, told me to wait a minute as he went in the back to look for something. He emerged with a hot cup of coffee for me. I showed him my locker number to pay, but he said it was free. I finally got something for free in a Brazilian sauna! It actually turned out to be a great cup of coffee:

    Looking around, no one jumped out to me like last time. There was one cute boy who was a branquinho who looked nice, but was snapped up by a customer before I got the chance to chat him up. After a second cup of coffee, two nice looking morenos chatted me up, one much better looking than the other. After the usual BS banter, I invited the better looking guy over upstairs to talk more. He smoked like the rest of them:

    He checked a lot of boxes for sure: tall, great kisser, hung, great ass, and magic abs. I was probably less enthused about this one but I didn’t think I would get anything better tonight. So we head back downstairs to get a suite. Don't forget to use a mask guys, even if no one in sight was wearing a mask:

    We got to the room and find a unmade bed filled with used condoms, condom wrappers on the side table, and wet footprints on the floor.
    GROSS.


    The boy fetched the cleaning guy, who upon getting there, got a mop to clean up, yelled a half-sincere “SORRY” in English in my general direction.  That mop looks like its dirty.

    After he changed the sheets and gets rid of the previous programa’s evidence, I finally get some alone time with my boy. It was fine. He fucked me. Not a barnburner. After the programa, he kept hanging out with me while I perused the other boys. I was right, I could not have done better than what I had tonight, which was kind of disappointing. We watche the drag queen show and then the strip show, which was just fine. Overall: meh. I thought i'd appreciate anything that resembled real life, after months of getting by without it, but it was just not working for me tonight.
    I go home, sadly, alone.  So as not to be alone, I send a message to a boy I previously met last year in Club 117. He got here an hour later. He still looked the same, the young and tan (and hugely hung) Carioca I spent 4 days with last year, and he didn’t disappoint then. I told him about my so-so night in Point 202, and he laughed. He told me that there was a reason why he does not go to Point, and only sells his wares in 117. I knew a lot of boys like that. They all had their reasons why.
    I told him that we were in the middle of a pandemic, and Point was the only game in town, and I had no other choice. He then said: “I am a better choice” pointing to himself.  And then he showed me why he was the better choice. He spent the night, fucked my brains out, and had lively conversation. I could have skipped Point and just spent the night with this stud. Then again, I will continue visiting Point in the future. Because like I said, if it’s good, it’s great, and when it’s bad, it’s gross.
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    Sobering indeed. A key part of the article is surely this one.
    After SARS it was widely reported that another similar illness would eventually appear and that it would originate in China where animals and humans often exist in close proximity to each other. 
    Early and continuing research is vital with all new illnesses. Lest we forget, researchers now believe the first known AIDS patient in the USA was a teenager Robert Rayford whose immune system was dysfunctional and who suffered from a number of highly unusual symptoms including Kaposi's syndrome. Rayford died in St. Louis in 1969. The autopsry results baffled doctors. It was only in 1988 that tests found HIV antibodies in his blood samples. How he was infected is not known. It is suspected that he could have been a child prostitute. St. Louis was TWA's international hub city. The case was so unusual it was the subject of an extensive 1973 article in the medical journal Lymphology. It is mere speculation but had research continued on Rayford's death, could the HIV pandemic have been nipped in the bud?
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    Day 7
     
    Waking up alone – out of 6 nights so far  this is third time I suffer  such indignity . So it turned that I did not utilize my room at Zing at all other than storing my meager possessions but I kind of liked idea of flexibility two rooms at the same time in two different locations gave me. Specially the cost was not overwhelming and cheapest rooms  turned out quite comfortable.
     
    For breakfast to one of restaurants on the Beach Road , nice breeze blowing into face but whatever  I could have for 100 at Foodland cost me 200 for view and breeze. 
     
    Then few steps to internet café in soi post office where I got PM from williewillie that Art, may favorite guy from BBB not seen for few months suddenly appeared at BigBoys last night and if I had phone he would alert me about that. Last straw to break my back in Pattaya this trip but what one can do? Collect pieces together, grin and carry on.
     
    Than off to Jomtien Complex, fast packing and at noon on the dot I left my room there, walked to bar near bus station to have a beer waiting for my 1 pm bus and at 2.50 pm  I was back in Swampy .
     
    Train to city was very crowded, almost at capacity leaving airport so I guess quite a few flight must have arrived at the same  time. This time my destination was Suriwongse hotel, right opposite of Moonlight. I never stay there overnight but used their short time rooms on ground level on few occasions in the past.
     
    Advantage is location in thick of the action , not only for Moonlight but soi Twilight being across the street and still location is in quiet and discreet corner. Very popular at one time , now shows it’s age sand room can use some renovation although washroom part was clearly recently renovated and shiny.
     
    No safety deposit box in the room but there are boxes on reception which can be rented for 600 baht / month according to sign. There’s free computer  with internet in the lobby as well, breakfast was included and room was spacious enough and clean but lacking tea kettle which was feature all other hotels I stay this trip but I came prepared as I like my tea and always carry immense heater .
     
      At first I was not very impressed but after a while I realized I like it and not only because Moonlight is right there but also because location is convenient for other places yet quiet. Raya it is not but at 500 baht less it’s good value for money and chances are it was not my last time there. 
     
    As always I did my walk around Patpong area  , bought few necessities and close to 7 p.m. marched to soi Twilight right to Bangkok Massage where in absence of my regular Namu who went home I asked if Kai is there. Very muscular but with still baby faced guy , known to me from the past entertained me for next 90 minutes with strong and fast paced massage and some other suitable activities , 700 for the house and twice as much  for him which made him very happy, ‘really, that’s  for me?”. I quoted  Oud , my favorite Jupiter boy  ‘you happy , I happy” .
     
    Smiling I left the place to see paulsf and DivineMadman sitting across the soi in Maxi so I joined immediately.  Not before long  anddy  joined us. Latest  news exchanges, schnitzel dinner , some beer , very nice forum  reunion indeed !
     
    But as evening was progressing I felt some itching as I had designs for the evening. Of course in close neighborhood , namely Moonlight once more. I liked that adventure with Nicky week ago and was hoping to get acquainted with other models ,  either Fluke or Sunny,   as Numazu says , money be damned.
     
    Three gentlemen wished me luck, we made arrangements to meet tomorrow and I sprinted to see what night will bring. Entered bar exactly when show was starting , found a seat , was  immediately recognized by one of mamasans who helped me facilitate off with Nicky last time i.e. collected 50 or 100 baht tip then and was probably hoping for the same tonight. As soon as I settled who is rushing toward me, whole in smiles? Nicky himself.
     
    Another drink ordered , hands held, heaven is near . What I did not expect was apology as he  noted that I probably did not like Japanese club we went to last Saturday but I told him truth, club , experience and food I  liked , it was bill which I found excessive but told him not to worry because , which was truth again, I liked him which earned me warm embrace and one needs to see and even more important to feel the guy to understand that it was very pleasant moment indeed.
     
    When asked if he will go with me tonight I told him truth that probably not because I want to see somebody else he took it matter-of- factly without any fuss with only comment ‘ may be tomorrow?’ and did not even wait for an answer. Very polite and professional and very , very everything.
     
     As time for the models presentation was coming , he finished his drink , collected his 100 tip tucked in his undies and went to prepare himself for a show , his place immediately taken by mamas an standing nearby whom I asked to find if Fluke will be available and willing to go with me. Oiled with red note he left , not to be seen again for a good while but I was occupied with show and model presentation waiting patiently. Show at Moonlight is more revealing that Jupiter one and rigid manhoods  are to be seen here and there.
     
    Apart from show on the stage I had one in front of me. Middle aged and quite handsome Chinese invited # 15 to seat with him and #15 is man of such good muscular look with manly face they only reason he is not part of model crew must be religious, LOL. It was clear they will go together as shortly he left to dress but not before I satiated myself with view of his broad shoulders and as I said , Chinese guy was good looking as well. 
     
    Clearly my Guardian Angel rolled his sleeves today as finally mamasan arrived  smiling with good news  that Fluke will join me soon . After ¼ of eternity  i.e few minutes he was right there , wai-ing me politely , I shook his hand , invited him to seat, drink was ordered and nirvana started . Just sitting in close proximity to such a hunk was worth 29 hours of travel, feeling firmly enforced when he placed   his hand on my knee and I embraced him with my left arm and placed my right hand on his massive and steely forearm. 
     
    Getting hot in here but is not my fault that he  is very close to what my standard of excellent manframe is. Muscular but not overbuilt, veiny, bit hair here and there, man man. Lots of smiles but not so much of conversation  due to his limited English  but with municipal elections in Burkina Faso settled  I could use some  time of quiet admiration specially that  my question ‘ are you going with me ? ‘ was understood and answered with unqualified  YES immediately .  “How much you want ? “ was met with shy smile and this is all I wanted to know. 
     
    I couldn’t wait to leave but having good heart and using mamasan to translate I told him that if he has show I will wait for him because he is so handsome I don’t want take him from other patrons.  
     
     
    It was good move as both seem to be pleased with what they heard and I was not BS at all although I was not entirely altruistic either. Imagine boost to my self –esteem to be seen sitting in company of such a specimen in a packed  bar, full if envious  eyes  . So he left me for a while but now I was in mood I could wait  for hours watching stage with go-gos , all very carefully selected and  of great masculine looks.  Fluke’s number was first in second show and soon after he came dressed so 1000 baht off fee paid along with bin content .
     
    It was quite a bit , off fee plus 3 drinks but expense was last of my mind as dream finally came true and I liked feeling of anticipation what’s next.  I had my share of stars which turned out losing shine fast in the room. When we were leaving another mamas an came to Fluke telling him somebody is interested but he pointed at me, quite a contrast with goings  2 days ago at BBB. Trek to the hotel was extremely short  and  before I could whisper ’ thank you Guardian Angel” we were in the room.
     
    Finally ! No problem showering together , no problem with anything. Great look, great built everywhere and great attitude. And good upbringing. We showered together but I finished first , he was still soaking but when I  left washroom he closed door, out of habit I guess.
     
    The same repeated when we were done  and took shower again. Sure he likes girls better confirmed  when asked but ‘boys like nit noy” he smilingly acknowledged.  No  attitude, no time watching ,no rush  it look that those Moonlight models are keeping some standard because Nicky was the same and alizizou had identical impression 
     
    Just by length of this story you can sense that  it was night to remember. Of course I tried to convert it to long time but he declined , from translation  on the phone I understood he has either job or something to do in the airport area at 9 in the morning so I resigned to my fate of sleeping in empty bed but warmed by  such magnificent hunk.
     
    Substantially poorer but immensely happier I slept like  a baby finishing day 7 sweetened by both Kai and Fluke. Who would have think that 2 days ago I was swearing  never to return. Long live Thailand!
     
    Even now, week later I’m smiling typing that.
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    Day 5
     
    I already mentioned that I did few stupid things for this trip, forgetting ATM cards was main. Senility must be setting in or who knows what because shortly after I booked my flight I got e-mail from Expedia offering very good rates for Zing in Jomtien Complex so I booked two nights and forgot about whole thing. Rest of bookings were done shortly before trip and of course  I rolled over all 8 nights booking 2 night in each of 4 hotels- Baan Silom, Classrooms, Ambiance and Suriwongse.
     
    Thanks to that for night 5 and 6 I found myself in possession of two rooms , at Ambiance and Zing. Sure  I could cancel Ambiance one as Zing was non –refundable  but for 21 or 22 $ per night I decided to keep both and see what happens but Zing was my new base camp because of proximity to Jomtien’s airport bus station.
     
    So in the morning at 11 we are leaving our bed and I’m telling my guest that I’m moving to Jomtien in 1 hr. It turned out that we are going together as this is where he lives in one of side sois.
     
    I travel lightly so packing did not take much of an effort and shortly we were  marching to baht bus. There was another guy smiling at me for reason unknown but shortly I learned that he is friend of my companion and remembers me from Dreamboys visit  two days ago as he works there as barker.
     
    Also Cambodian,  so good English spoken,  we had some conversation and at destination I invited both guys for a breakfast in Norwegian restaurant outside of Complex. Ample servings and not even 500 baht for 3 of us, drinks included , good value. Then he went his way and my guy offered to carry my suitcase , whole 8 kg of her , rolling on the wheels, to my new room in Zing.
     
    Of course couldn’t just dismiss him right there so we had a brief horizontal session without any sensations  but lots of body contact and of course additional note slipped into his briefs. It was actually very pleasant idea. It looks that we spent together more than 12 hrs , one of my longest offs ever. 
     
    I found  Zing very good value with good sized room  , some toiletries, tea kettle, efficient A/C ,  working room safe and discreet entry directly from the street , bypassing reception. Apparently it’s no longer gay hotel but almost all guests I saw were men only anyways.
     
    In the afternoon I went back to Pattaya, in Boyztown had some chat over drinks with Kao the masseur in Copa, had chance of shake hands with aussie_ who was just passing by. Then I went to Pattaya Night Market  to buy a shirt and shorts / 630 both / and then returned to Boyztown via DasBerliner restaurant in soi 11 or 12 where I had a dinner recalling my time there with biguyby few months ago as he was one who introduced me to a place.
     
    In Boyztown  I claimed my another room , in Ambiance and nobody on reception even blinked an eye that I have no luggage at all , other than toothpaste and brush.
    Again their cheapest room is very good value with all amenities including , God knows why , two working safes.
     
    Only bit chilling was fact that owing to renovation there were was actually access to stairs on the 1st floor, just an elevator . But window opened so I thought , in case of need I just jump from the window.  If you recall I had long time promised for tonight by guy from Copa. But it was still early so right after BBB singing and clapping  I went to Nice Boys in order to keep my promise  to take # 30 home. 
     
    Boys were already on the stage doing  their usual motions and my guy , seeing me was visibly relieved. I called him from the stage right away but decided to have some fun before fun starts  so called few boys , one by one to distribute several 20-40-50 baht tips in exchange for  a feel . One of boys actually suggested he will go with us  but dropped an idea when I told him that I only take two guys if one  f**ks another. 
     
    Again it was fun being there. Then we took sontaew  to Zing for our short time fun. It was not that short  and plenty of fun although I had an impression  he was a bit less clingy than in the bar yesterday when he was perhaps trying to land an off.  But this is digression as he was a great companion. I did not try to convert to long time because I had that promise from Ko.
     
    So we went back to Pattaya, him to his bar probably and me to Boyztown where Ko was nowhere to be seen even if we agreed at midnight’ s  meeting.
     
    In meantime I got   full of disgust look from Dom who certainly considers me very  cheap and perhaps , after all stinky and after sending  that angry  eye toward me he disappeared inside of hotel. After ½ hr waiting for Ko in wain I decided to step inside of BoyzBoyzBoyz where midnight show was on.
     
    Tipped friendly mamas an 100 baht to find me Keow, the hunk of Moonlight model quality. Known to me from previous arrangements although when he joined me in a minute it took some explanation to help  his   memory to recall me or at least he pretended to .  Definitely sitting next to such awesome  body with option to hug it tightly warrants a drink and as it turned out shortly , another one at 350 a piece.  Short time negotiated , agreed smilingly and then after a while he asked for permission to go out and smoke.
     
    Upon return I was hit with news that he will not go with me tonight because he has another client. Been there , done that  in May 2015 at Tawan so  upsetting sense of déjà vu hit me immediately but really what , other than resigning to my fate could I do ?
     
    I’m in Thailand to get a guys , not to get even.
     
    But mightily upset I was , finished my beer and left  bar soon to cool down by taking stroll to Walking street and back . Returned to the soi well past 2 but still it was some activities included two masseurs on duty in the hotel.
     
    One closer was quite attractive so I asked about completing the night together  but firm 4000 all inclusive quitation chilled me a bit and no yield was forthcoming  so we settled on massage at 1900, house charged included. Great body but not much of massage other than  caressing my back with one hand  as he was keen on getting to serious part ASAP .
     
    It was 4 when he left and I went to bed cursing Thailand and her boys,  vowing  not to put my foot here again. Yes , honest to God I did that,   but seriously , after getting angry looks from one , previously handsomely paid guy, with another one no-show for a long time  appointment , third one dumping me mid-bar and massage boy with great body not even interested in massage what I was supposed to do? Sing?
     
    So it was how day 5 finished but  still , after all that upset and cursing I slept soundly.
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    Day 4
     
    After A left I went to internet café in soi post office and on approach I saw owner standing outside of shop gesturing toward me.
    He told me  that inside is really smelly  farang but I braved myself in as place is big enough. There was some stench of unwashed clothes  and body  but I had something to do,  so as they say ,I held my nose.
     
    Then some stroll along Beach Road and at one point I landed at Alt Heidelberg  for my schnitzel lunch  and beer  and I happened to come in very opportune moment as owner was discussing some  business with , I presume, contractor who was young guy of outstanding  handsomeness. That is the beauty of Thailand – you have eye candy everywhere. Yesterday Japanese tourist , today local. Feast for eyes and soul and all for free with bonus of smile I earned when they were passing by going outside.
     
    Then I think jet lag  did not gave in so I went to hotel for 2-6 pm power nap. At 8 I was supposed to meet aussie_ at Salt and Pepper near Tukcom so I decided to use that as excuse to get massage at Royal House.
     
    Guy I picked up was not available unfortunate as he had bandage on his wrist as result of motorbike accident of course. But there was smiling substitute right beside and off we went for pleasant session , 400 for the house and 1100 for the guy. We finished right on time so I could be at restaurant at 8 on the dot.
     
    After we had our fill , no prize for guessing what I had, LOL then we went to Sunee with first stop at Double Shot which hired recently few new employees and good looking ones indeed. Then next stop at Winners , few patrons including one of our board members flanked  by  boy on each side, about 8 boys on the stage. Drink 80 baht , boy drink 130 so I invited one to sit with me for a while. On departure few boys got  a tip and we had short stroll to Nice Boys.
     
    That is bar with fun inside indeed, several boys on the stage , mostly smiling while working on their appendages as from time to time patrons were calling  them over for  a fast feel  and a tip.  
     
    Some were already sitting with customers earning their tips by allowing indecent touches and more. This is not  a bar for shy people, that’s for sure
     
     
    Since number 30 had already sizable endowment  in full rigidity I decided to call him over  for a time I’m in the bar and it was pleasure getting hold on very shapely and sizable cock supplemented with  kiss from time to time.  I had other designs for tonight I told him I will take him home tomorrow . In meantime , to fit with  other patrons I called other guys for a quick feel  for a tip. Lots of smiles there and few very shapely guys including one with very firm butt, pure pleasure to touch .
     
    Very pleasant evening and thank you to aussie_ for dragging me in . At one point he  left me there  but williewillie appeared  around the same time  so forum was well represented that nice night at Nice.
     
    Tipped by hard companion very generously  but well deserved, repeated see you tomorrow and went to Copa  for massage.  Right in front on duty was Dom, one of handsomest masseurs  I ever   saw and dealt with – we had long time in June so I expressed desire to see him again but  he kept very firmly his quote of 3000 all inclusive for massage , I guess  firmness being  result of recent Chinese wave so I passed that opportunity if only because Ko , veteran of my many massage appeared  so I had an option earning me angry look and as I learned nasty comment from other guy.  He labeled me ‘stinky’   which I take as ‘stingy’ as I was rather  showered not long ago after massage and evening was not that hot .
     
    Ko massage is of great energy so he mutilated me with gusto earning 1500 tip and I earned promise of long time for tomorrow night.
     
    Since it was almost midnight I went to new bar, Big Boys for their midnight show. Lots of lipsync singing by ladyboys   and man show by the same guys who are performing in Dreamboys show. Refreshing change was mamasan, very tall and handsome, bit pushy but because of his looks he is forgiven.
     
    First time since I don’t know when it was actually pleasure to have mamas an company. Not that he worked in vain, I liked few of their boys in line up, particularly # 11 and #4 and both of them were actually smiling at me so it was only matter of time and some deliberation   who will get tip 100 baht / # 11 / and who will go with me, # 4 was a winner. 100 baht tip for mamas an for his troubles and my pleasure, my drink 260, boy’s drink 360, truly Bangkok level, off fee 500 and expected tip 2000.
     
    As yesterday, world saw me and a boy dining at metal tables and again it was a bit costly at 750 for both of us. But it was worth as my companion , the Cambodian proved very engaging and enjoyable so we converted into long time and it was great idea as it was 11 am next day when we finally decided to change positions from horizontal to vertical . This is how day 4  , breaking point of my short trip finished.
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    Day 3
     
    After  breakfast Oud went to his room and I took BTS to Saphan Taksin and  took tourist boat to Wat Arun as it was while since I was there and boat trips along Chao Phraya river is essential for me every time I’m in Bangkok.
     
    While regular express boats are cheaper I like tourist ones as seat is guaranteed , they move in slower pace and even with  50 baht one way ticket  I found it very good deal .  120 baht  day ticket with unlimited stops is even better deal. Boat departs every 30 minutes beginning at 9.30 am.
     
    I spent about 1 hr wandering  around and then returned to Baan Silom to pack and leave exactly at 12 noon and made my way to airport  as this time I decided to go to Pattaya by Jomtien bus. Had some meal waiting for my departure and in about 1 hr 40 minutes I was in Jomtien bus terminal, crossed street   to catch immediately  passing songtaew  and few minutes later I was back in Classrooms hotel right above ABomb bar.
     
    Somehow their system remembered me because girl on reception said ‘welcome back ‘ and I doubt she remembered me from 2 days stay 3 months ago specially that entry to hotel  is very discreet, by card operated side door  so patrons and personnel are hardly scandalized by hotels’ guests shenanigans.
     
    Very spacious room with balcony, full sized refrigerator, tea/ coffee making facilities, all makes it for very good deal. And on the wall picture with obvious gay theme.
     

     
    After settling in walk across the Second Road to Cha Cha Cha , recently discussed in a separate thread here to try recommended chicken with cashew nuts, one doesn’t expect from me anything else, right?
    Nice décor in rustic style , place is obviously new and I wish them luck . Only few other patrons, all of them Japansese dining at other table, handsome like hell. At one point one of them wen t to WC  and both my and waitresses eyes followed him , fact not lost on the boss behind the counter who smiled  knowingly.
     
     
    Then some walk to check what is old and new and as evening settled I finally arrived to Boyztown main soi to see from the distance that Kao at Copa is on duty today so off we went for massage by that adorable hunk who recognized me immediately as well. Highlight of any trip and any day   for me in Pattaya, unfortunately he doesn’t work every day as he has daytime job . Well built but still cute and soft spoken is true  gem. 400 for the room 1200 tip.
     
    Then some beer at Copa bar waiting for beginning  of BBB singing and clapping. After while Yut , well known fixture of the soi spotted me and came for  a chat , very chatty and funny personality with good sense of humor but getting on with years and good thing he found a day time job  now only moonlighting at Scandic. We will meet him again few times as he pays good attention to goings in the soi and seem to know how his acquaintances are doing and with whom.
     
    At 9 pm, BoyzBoyzBoyz crew went out for their spectacle and I was quite a disappointed because I couldn’t see Art , my favorite from there and in fact nobody attractive. And this is from the bar I consider best in Thailand, I should say this in the past tense as now I passed crown to Moonlight after this trip. As I learned later , now all lost as lots of crew simply did not go out for one reason or another  and dozens of prime material still inside. Nevertheless what I saw was a bit disappointing.
     
    Shortly after williewillie appeared walking into soi  so we started chatting over drinks and heaven opened with quite  a rain. Since we wanted to see Dreamboys show I run to my hotel for an umbrella and in that rain we went there . Show start at 10. 40, I liked it and it seems that performers are external and quite hunky. As I learned later after Dreamboys they seem to jump for another show to BigBoys down the soi.
     
    Few tips distributed and walk across the soi to XBoys for their midnight show . I have boy there I offed long time year ago so he came immediately for a hug and 100 baht tuck and since he is performer  in few numbers including special ones this was not his last tip tonight.
     
    For quite a time I’m watching  veteran there , A,  #10  but finally this trip I decided to give him a try , specially that he seemed to recall me as well. 4000 suggested for long time, this is not Bangkok so fast we went to reasonable level, 500 off fee and we marched to metal tables restaurant in the corner for a late dinner and a chat. He speaks reasonable English and is quite chatty. I must watch what those boys are ordering because bill came to 700 but I had a good time and he had a good meal so we made good foundation for hot and enjoyable night. I liked him a lot.
     
    In the morning walk to Ambiance for a breakfast , again some lavish meal choice but I was happy to pay as a token of appreciation for his  no rush attitude.
     
    So I finished day 3 very happy.
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    Day 2
     
    After  last night debaucheries  I was sleeping soundly till 10 am. I did even notice in the morning what just  happened –  very unique situation for me , nobody beside me in the bed and that bed is in Thailand !
     
    Breakfast  at Foodland, then stroll through Lumpini Park, meeting my friend who provided solution to my potential budget troubles   since my ATM cards are left home as I mentioned before and return to the hotel where I was expecting  visit from ChristianPFC   to begin our customary bar tour. At 6 he arrived and we marched , despite rain to Madrid Tavern in Patpong  for pizza dinner and chat.
     
    By time we finished so did rain. Since Christian already reported that tour in his blog, here’s the link,  trip report from Oct 7 starts after initial bar introduction :
     
    https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2018/10/surawong-gogo-bars-oct-2018.html
     
    I can add few my own impressions first being that is hardly any bar in BKK where Christian is not welcomed warmly by some of his acquaintances from previous arrangements. Tokyo Boys which opened in Jun is now empty place which will have warm spot in my heart as I was first customer to off from there  on their opening day. Surprising  was bar few door away which turned out to have not only girls but also 2 male employees, unfortunately  none of us found them hot enough to stop there.
     
    Our main stops were Fresh Boys, Hot Male and Screwboys  in each of them I asked some boy to sit with me for a drink and tip as trip is short and time can’t be wasted. 
     
    One in Fresh Boys  recognized me from previous off in Dec 2016 and one in Screwboys was Yo whom I also offed  few years ago. Leaving Hot male I even managed to slip my hand  inside of undies of one of barkers , not that my hand was empty. I know him from the past and kind of like him, one with bandanna on his head.
     
    It was past midnight when we left Screwboys toward soi 4 where at Jupiter I was expecting Oud will patiently wait for me  as agreed last night.  Bar was quite empty but he was there, no drinks, just off fee and off we went passing by on our way to Oud’s motorcycle  Christian still surveying the soi 4 goings.
     
    There are adventures and there was familiar warm and muscular body to keep me company that night, small jubilee as it was my 10th off of him not counting last night’s short embraces.
     
    In the morning usual  Foodland breakfast and day 2 and with it ¼ of this trip was over.  
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    Day 1 continued
     
    With such a good start I briskly walked all the way to soi Twilight where I expected to see paulsf and anddy  and indeed they were sitting together keeping seat warm to tired traveler me.
     
    If you read part 1 you may notice that I n mentioned only ice cream and it was really my only meal since breakfast aboard the plane about 10 hours ago so yes , I was hungry.
     
    By the way , on more than one occasion massage boys told me not to eat anything at least 2 hrs before  massage so it must be some science in it.
     
    We exchanged latest news while surveying the scene with all boys rushing to their bars. I noticed that my semi-regular Namu from Bangkok massage is absent and indeed his brother working there confirmed he went home.
     
    Nice  to see  my forum friends   and all that surrounding eye-candy but as time progressed I felt that itching pushing me toward Moonlight bar, not only because it’s where I started in Jun  but also because firmly, hell or high water , I wanted to  try one of their models. Subject is discussed in depth and wide in Moonlight thread so it may be some repetition.
     
    All of them  are super handsome but I had Sunny, Nicky and Fluke in mind whatever happens. Sunny because I like his face and his performing skills – great dancer and acrobat. Nicky , because he is one reader in his recent trip report described sharing drink with him like flying close to the sun.  Fluke because his super muscular built but avoiding being oversized.
     
    No , I did not count on getting any smiles from them which is my usual requirement for an off but sometimes we need to bend our own rules. But first show which starts at 10.30, drink 350 second drink 200. Show quite progressive with cocks poking here and there, few funny numbers with boy collapsing on another , impaling his mouth on other guy rigid tool and then there’s models parade after which they go through an audience wai-ing  everybody and collecting tip here and there.
     
    So when Nicky happened to be passing by where I was sitting I just forced 100 baht into his undies as it’s my way of tipping guys in bars and he stopped right here , shaking my hand and inviting himself  to sit just beside me. Drink / 350 /
    ordered and delivered, some hand holding , some embraces, wherever my hand was it was smooth skin and steely muscles underneath. Amazing feeling.
     
    Honestly I don’t recall  who initiated going away subject , me or him but it did not take long for that being on the table. 6000 asking price , not only very high but also above my self imposed limit of 5000. Contrary to popular belief  I have my standards and let guys  to have theirs but 5000 ( I can hear  screams  already ) was approved with 3 hrs time frame.
     
    But wait, there’s more, off fee while regular 500 , for models is 1000. I’m not sure if offing those models is daily occurrence because mamasan collecting fee seemed very happy and thanked me more than once.  I wanted to see rest of show, Nicky went to dress and after show we went out where I was invited  for a ride. Literally. He has a car and  asked me to go with him to a club to have some meal and a drink.
     
    Not my intention , not my scene and not that I was prepared for financially , as it turned out later , very unprepared financially, LOL. Sure I could firmly say no, let go to my room but ever curious what happens next I  agreed. Not that he had something in mind close by, we went all the way   to Thonglor  to a place called Ainu-Japanese  style club and restaurant with wallet parking and this being Saturday packed by young hi-so Bangkok yuppies.
     
    On our way we stopped at gas station where I was asked to contribute 700 to filling tank fund , LOL, not that I expect anything else.
     
       I don’t frequent such places  so was quite happy to see how other half is having good time specially that nobody paid much of attention to us although I doubt anybody , even with most of patrons drunk already,  thought we are father and son couple . In short no fuss.
     
    Nicky ordered some drinks and food and I just quietly thought  ‘ wait until bill arrives / I had 2000 left on me  /. But it was fun, he was not shy to hold my hand from time to time. They brought some Japanese specialties , don’t ask me what it was but taste was heavenly. So in short I had a good time because of triple  novelty for me – situation , venue and food.
     
    Not even for minute I forget that all that fun must be paid somehow. When he called for a bill , it came to 3900 something ( scream ) I pointed to my poverty of having half of that but he did not lose his cool at all and somehow paid it , of course I told him I will repay as everybody knew it was actually me who invited us there.  
     
    Then our car was brought from parking /100 tip /  and we went for  very nice trip to hotel,   holding hands with such  a hunk  all the way back to Silom.
     
    In room perfect , no rush , slow move session. No I did not think about the cost , it was pure pleasure. No attitude , no time watching , not even mentioning “where is my money for a club” just professional and classy behavior . Sure one can say for that money  it should be  but we all know money buys only that much.
    Certainly most expensive man session I ever had but something to remember and feel good about as well. And for me it was not even over .
     
    When we parted our ways, all paid I went to soi Tawan to buy some ice cream , just to cool down.
     
    Passing by Sun massage beside Tawan I noticed some cutie still on duty at that time,  but went to 7/11 first, returning had a second look at the guy and pat on my pocket revealed something there.  Since it was my 1000 baht pocket I told him straight that massage ok but  1000 is all I have and he agreed for reduced tip / massage there costs 300 for 1 hr I think/.
     
    So we went upstairs, not much massage anyways as he went straight for an  indecent touches, I did the same but it was nice and energizing hour. I even scrapped another  200 in 20 and 50 ties to make him a bit happier at that time of night.
     
    It was another client in cubicle beside and it was some commotion as he claimed he doesn’t have as much as he promised boy, sometimes I feel sorry for guys and that is reason why some massage places are collecting money up front .
     
    No I did not go to bed, 3 am I wanted to see sleepy Silom so went all the way to quite deserted Thainya with few people still sitting here and there. It was almost at Suriwong where I felt pat on the back.
     
     Oud !!!
     
     Former Tawan boy , transplanted to Jupiter was drinking with two girls when he spotted me passing by.  With 9 off over the years almost all long times obviously he remembered me. Warm embraces and kisses   straight from movie set on such unexpected , late night reunion.
     
    I went to join his friends , contributed 200 to whisky fund, had few rounds, nice girls and very good looking they were and was no need to pretend we are just friends as Oud loudly  was thinking whether he still should visit me tonight or not , even if we already settled on the next.  It turned out that he just gives me  a ride to hotel on his motorcycle as it was very late or rather early so we said good bye to his friends and went to hotel.
     
    There , late or early he decided to drop by just to see the room . Then things went heated  course when we hugged , not much happened past just body contact   but body he has ! short time is short time so brown note changed hands although I don’t think he expected it but I have my standards.
     
    So my first  day was long one , most expensive ever, packed with 4 meetings and considering  long overnight  flight leading to it I wondered why I’m still alive  sleep deprived for so many hours but somehow I survived that rollercoaster and pocket drainage
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    This trip , my 18th was a bit  experimental. Most my trips to Thailand were short ones but always  in connection with visiting other countries in neighborhood or  on my way somewhere further  away. Never  flew that far just  to be in Thailand for  1 week only and return home .  Due to few factors I decided to try such foray this October, chalking that month off as well as it was my first Thai visit in October.
     
    It leaves me only 6 months to cover –Jan-Apr and Jun / Aug. Schedule co-operated to optimize my time as I could leave hometown  just past midnight  and return in the evening. And since trip is over I must say , surprisingly perhaps for me as I considered this idiocy, it worked , chances are I will repeat the feast in the future.
     
    Not most efficient use of money, that’s sure but as long as airfares will be reasonable it’s not only doable but turned out  not being so tiring as I suspected ( jet lags are killing me more and more as I age but long flight seem to be shorter and shorter at the same time).
     
    First time I took Taiwanese Eva air and have only good things to say. We landed in Taipei 4 am so with outbound flight at 9 it gave me plenty of time to explore airport which is very unimpressive from outside but interior in places looks more like exhibition hall than airport. It was kind of fun to see how crowds are getting denser and denser  but first 2 hours it felt I had terminal to myself.
     
    Leaving was much less fun as we were stuck on taxiway for 90 minutes waiting in long line of planes ready to take off . I feel sorry for claustrophobic in that situation but I had been in worse – 4 hrs in Chicago several  years ago – very high wind stopped all traffic.
     
    Arriving at noon was breeze and this is how my day 1 started. Short immigration lines, exchanging money in one of railway station booths – best rates  I saw that week everywhere, train to BTS Phaya Thai, then to Sala Daeng and short walk to soi 3 to Baan Silom .
     
    I did few stupid things this trip and at one point I realized that I have on me only cash , no back up plastic which inconveniently was left on my desk at home. So I said ‘ vinapu,  now short class on fiscal discipline’
     
    But I said it loudly enough for my Guardian Angel  to overhear my quiet resignation and as it turned out , help was there.  I just commented in one of threads that I don’t keep in touch with my boys but I do with friends in real life and one of them  happened to be in Bangkok on business .  I’m telling you , it’s hard to be atheist those days.
     
    Not that I’d be starving but certainly my certain activities would be curtailed quite a bit specially that as we learn very soon I left  fiscal worries for following days intended to live my first  one to the full  .
    Baan Silom  assigned me different room this time with less sizable washroom and safe and closet  actually in the room not washroom  like last time and again I can recommend it as  it’s quiet location only short walk from mayhem of Silom and rooms are of very good size and well maintained and appointed.
     
    After decontamination / 29 hrs on the road door to door / I did walk around Silom if only to learn about my first disappointment – Art from Nakarat massage , shining start of my June visit went home  . Then walk to Senso found place , recently damaged by falling construction crane , bolted and abandoned meaning of that that I will not see M and that’s the guy I have more chemistry with than probably anybody else from my semi-regulars.
     
    As I had Prince on the schedule for this trip I went straight there. To calm  my nerves I bought an ice cream which I finished sitting outside beside quite a hunky and tattooed guy who had his smoke. We finished at the same time , went inside and I just pretended to a while to ponder my choices, no too long as place was busy with at least  5 other clients and I ask mamasan to point to that guy. For 1.5 hr , 1000 baht session. He warned me he may be tired as I’m his 3rd customer toady / it was only 6 pm ! / but I told him same same here.
     
    Quite possibly  guy was tired as he did not seem particularly  keen  but I told him up front that I know he is tired and not to worry ,  I like you, he smiled , I smiled and we went to one of outside rooms after paying my fee. Vietnamese, his name is Fibre, massage was very good  although , since we had 90 minutes we started somewhat  non-standard with several minutes of quiet and soothing embrace.
     
    That improved things greatly , energized both of us / jet lag / and he mutilated me  with gusto, building good foundation for a night ahead. Minimum tip of 1500 increased by  500 , for a good start, well deserved. Poor boy , when we were about to leave he got call from mamasan that he may have somebody else for him, talking about harvest ! Anyways ,  fully recommended, not trying any shortcuts on service or time and it needs to be said loudly, my first memorable massage at Prince ever.
     
    day 1  to be continued
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    Manly69 reacted to vinapu in Cracking down in Retiree’s   
    I plan to retire in my own place, all seniors need - family and fruends,  pharmacy , doctors , hospital, senior residence and even cemetery are all in close proximity.
     
    And if I feel urge to change scenery , airport is very short ride away, like 10 minutes. 
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    Manly69 reacted to paborn in Are you going bareback now.?   
    I would like to suggest a dislike button be added to this forum.
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    Manly69 reacted to vinapu in Chiang Mai report 2018   
    That's not nice
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    Manly69 reacted to a447a in Pattaya report Oct 2018   
    Last holiday I offered to buy my friend some new shoes to go with the outfit I had bought for him. He declined, telling me I had already spent too much money on him. I promised I would buy them for him on my next visit.
     
    Two days ago we went looking in Central Festival after dinner. Like me, he's very fussy - he knows exactly what he wants - and we spent a lot of time going from shop to shop.
     
    At the end of it all, he found three pairs he liked but none was exactly what he wanted. I told him to keep them in mind and that the next day we could go to Royal Garden, as there is one very nice shoe store there.
     
    So yesterday afternoon after coffee, off we went. Unfortunately, that store has now closed, but he saw one pair in another shop which he liked. It was a Thai brand I'd never heard of.
     
    "Ok. Now we have 4 pairs you can choose from. But there's no need to rush; we can look a bit more."
     
    The only place we hadn't visited was the shoe section in the department store. He soon found a pair which I knew he really wanted. His eyes lit up. They were perfect.
     
    "Ok. Let's buy these," I said.
     
    He looked at the price and hesitated.
     
    "Mmm...I think shoes in Royal Garden ok."
     
    "Which ones do you really want?"
     
    After some hesitation he said "I like these ones."
     
    So I bought them.
     
    Some Thai guys have a reputation for being money-grabbing, greedy buggers whose main aim is to extract as much as possible from the "rich" farang. This guy is living proof that such a reputation is definitely not always true. What makes his attitude more remarkable is the fact that he was brought up in abject poverty in a dysfunctional family. You'd think that could be a recipe for greed later in life.
     
    His parents eked out a living growing rice. They lived in a hut with a thatched roof that leaked when it rained. His father was a soldier and was severely injured in a bomb blast. He spent months in hospital and unfortunately, became addicted to the medicine he was being prescribed.
     
    After recovering, he no longer had access to the medicine so turned to methamphetamines. The result was catastrophic for the family as he became very violent and was unable to work. So the mother became the only breadwinner for her family of four children. The father died when my friend was nine years old.
     
    He did not have a childhood; while his friends were out enjoying themselves he had to stay home and look after his siblings. There was no money for school - he only completed the first 3 years before having to go out an earn some money.
     
    He was only nine when his father passed away. He found a job collecting tree bark up in the mountains. They worked him hard and paid him a pittance. So when he turned fifteen he left that job and started work at a cement factory. He had to carry 50 kg bags on his back. He's only a small guy and so found the work very demanding.
     
    His next job was washing cars for 11 hours a day, again for very little money. He was exhausted.
     
    His friend introduced him to a restaurant owner, who offered him a job washing dishes. He had to work thirteen hour shifts, often getting home in the early hours of the morning. He would then have to take care of his siblings.
     
    When a friend told him about the money he was making in a gay gogo bar in Pattaya he decided he would give it a try.
     
    He started at Happy Boys but was horrified when he saw the little "skirt" he was required to wear. And when a customer grabbed his cock he quickly knew this was not the job for him and decided to go back home. But his friend persuaded him to persevere - if you want to make really good money you have to try. So he stayed and eventually got used to it.
     
    Now he works in a resort hotel and only comes to Pattaya when I'm in town. He'll go back after I leave.
     
    When we got back to the hotel he looked up the Thai word for "generous." I explained to him that I didn't think I was being generous at all. If he weren't here I'd spend more than the cost of the shoes every single night in Pattaya, visiting bar after bar, tipping boy after boy, drinking Coke after Coke. Spending my holiday with him actually saves me money. Lots of money. All I am doing is spending some of that money on him instead.
     
    I think he understood where I was coming from. But I'll happily accept the brownie points!
     
    He has learnt well from the nightmare that he experienced growing up. He has become strong, independent and determined. He knows that there are no free meals in life - you have to work to get ahead. You cant just sit back and expect hand-outs.
     
    Apart from a short period when he was swimming in the money he earned working at Kaos and blew it all partying with his friends and picking up the tab every night, he now saves every baht, much of which he sends home to mama each month. He hasn't gone out partying in all the years I've known him. Not being a drinker no doubt helps. He's been able to build mama a small house and buy himself a car.
     
    I once joked that I thought I was in love with him. But it's not love I feel - it's total admiration and respect.
     
    To my mind he's one in a million.
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    Manly69 reacted to CurtisD in Dispatch from Bangkok   
    After an early morning email check I decide I can afford to take it easy this morning and cuddle up to Bangkok Guy, who a few minutes later shifts a little, followed a little later by my repositioning myself and so on through multiple positions of the Cuddling Karma Sutra until we finally lock together and drift into the morning like pieces of a warm softly breathing puzzle.

    It is me who ultimately breaks the idyll to head out for appointments with a tailor and a designer who are both making things for me. I return to find a duvet mound on my side of the bed connected by the iphone charger to the nightstand. I peer into the mound and Bangkok Guy grins happily back, clearly now awake. Running errands has left me a little sticky so into the bathroom to shower and I see Bangkok Guy has been there, the shower is set to his cooler preferred temperature. Climbing into bed I explore the duvet mound and find Bangkok Guy coyly wrapped in a robe. His game today is for me to unwrap him. Christmas come early for adults.

    The evening’s fine dining excursion is to Saneh Jaan for Thai food. The single large room decorated in big-city-sophisticated echoes and re-echoes with conversation and laughter. Although we have a great table, it is not an intimate space – this is dining as public display rather than a private occasion. We order drinks, a fresh coconut milk served from the nut for him and a passionfruit mocktail for me.  Bangkok Guy examines the menu and suggests that we get two dishes that match those we had at Baan Suriyasai so that we can compare and a couple of new ones. Each dish is photographed and as we are both hungry we eat heartily. In this first round we agree that Baan Suriyasai emerges the clear winner. The green curry is good – he makes sure to finish it – but as he points out, holding his photo from Baan Suriyasai alongside for comparison, it is beige-green rather than green. The porkbelly and egg dish is definitely a distant second. The eggs are large, hardboiled and cut in half rather than both large and small, whole and softboiled so that the rich yolk runs out into the stew. The green vegetable in oyster sauce tastes, to me, a bit of cooking fuel which I try and fail to communicate to Bangkok Guy. None-the-less it is the one dish he does not polish off. The fried rice and pork we both think is excellent. Redemption is found in the dessert menu, where the selection of traditional Thai desserts gets Bangkok Guy animated. We agree to try one he knows of but has never tried, a warm coconut affair with the consistency of a thick soup or a thin custard, served in a beautiful Thai porcelain compote. It is wonderful. In a less sophisticated establishment I would lick the bowl.
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